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sr. member
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July 20, 2019, 01:57:35 AM
#11
Usually participants must not be tagged for promoting a project. But if the project is a total scam, or has enough chance to scam, anyone who promotes the porject must be tagged.
What if someone promotes a project which may hack our data? We must be encouraged to tag them. This is also the same. Livecoin participants are promoting an exchange which may steal people money, scam users.
legendary
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July 20, 2019, 01:18:16 AM
#10
What are the possibility this is an alt of someone already in the campaign trying to act smart. There's a reason I decided to stay away from wanting to be a member of the DT system, (if i wanted that responsible I would had worked for it and gotten it, in no time) issues like this I wouldn't had thought twice before I acted. Tagging participants here has nothing to do with posting habbit which theymos and most community members (including myself) are against. What's the gain if all the system can only do is to indicate scammers after successful scam without at least been able to stop potential scam from occuring to some extent. That's just medicine after death.

An exchange that doesn't value it's customers, only into the business of offering exchange services just for the money shouldn't be recommend to other forum users through signature marketing. Sometimes I begin to think the administration of the forum can do better.  You're against scam yet (just for some few bitcoin) you decide to promote a project that has been proven to have shady intentions. Which includes;
  • Livecoin holding customer funds hostage after he complained about them: Topic (archived)

  • TOS which breake law. They make it impossible to file a police report without losing your funds: Post (archived)

  • Extremely shady behavior by letting customer trade assets they can't and never will be able to withdraw at all: Topic (archived)

  • Using a fresh account instead of their old one to not have their bad reputation being seen in their new signature campaign thread.

  • And much more ...

Humans are losing their humanity, greediness and selfishness has turned us into something else.The human race getting more knowledgeable but losing wisdom.
legendary
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July 20, 2019, 01:00:05 AM
#9
To be honest, so many campaign has been running here even there is open scam accusation. And any participant has not been tagged. So personally I am not going to tag any Livecoin campaign participant. But I wouldn't bother to join that campaign if they do not like to resolved accusation against them.

The different between Livecoin and other campaign is, Livecoin campaign has been denied by reputed manager recently due to open scam accusation. And Livecoin has created their own account in order to run their campaign instead of resolving current issue.

I know most of campaign here isn't 100% perfect. But its matter of money. Forum users getting benefits of campaigns. I don't know if other DT members want to tag Livecoin participant but I will not counter them.


Lot of more DT members here and they are more experienced than me. Their opinion will be appreciated.

Seems sportsbet advertising by forum itself, so who will tag admin ? Eight slot has been gain by sportsbet.
sr. member
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July 19, 2019, 11:37:58 PM
#8
Wearing a signature is not directly advertising the site, one can wear even without the knowledge of the site and one can wear to support because in his experience, he never have had any problem with the site.

Yes, this is a another way around to think, but this sweet theory never/rarely happens, and I can bet my horse that not even single person there has been here to sever the forum for good as there greed/need for BTC dust surely outweigh there ethics. ( This is in reference to the applications until now on the campaign thread ).

A person should have due knowledge about the service they are advertising in there signature space, if there signatures promotion is polluting the community, it make the user advertising it untrustworthy too. So wearing a signature is directly advertising the site.



So this one person's scam accusation is enough for the community to conclude that Livecoin is a scam, isn't that fair?

If you walk down a restaurant, order some food and later you find out that there was a fly or something in your food, would you start comparing it with others and if others have received decent food, would you just stay quite and eat the food with the fly?? No, you would just bang the resto owner, tell 10s of your friends that the resto is shit never visit again and try to warn more and more people's.

This goes same with the accusation, one person doesn't matter, it's about how they react to it, and we expect the same from them in the future. So, if they are locking users funds now for accusing them publicly, they are sure to do the same with others in the future.  Who knows who would get a fly in his food next time !

I don't think red tagging them for this is the right way to react as we would destroy too much repo around, but other reputed campaign managers here could surely start blacklisting them atleast until there current accusation is solved as yahoo62278 suggested and sooner or later they would be left with shitposters IMO.
legendary
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July 19, 2019, 11:01:17 PM
#7
I don't think they should be tagged. However, anyone who applies is damaging his own reputation here, which is the most valuable thing anyone has here.

As yahoo62278  said, he will be blacklist them or remove from his campaigns... Nothing good will come to people who advertise that campaign.
jr. member
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July 19, 2019, 10:25:36 PM
#6

Thanks for your comment, all I want to know is the consensus among DTs about tagging participants.

So far, it's 2-0 not in favor of not tagging. That's updated in the OP>
legendary
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July 19, 2019, 10:19:19 PM
#5
Is there any difference if I wear their signature without receiving money?
So, am I not allowed to wear a signature of the site I love even if they have scam accusations?
That's the point. I doubt anyone would do that if it wasn't because they are getting paid to close their eyes and pretend it's ok to announce Livecoin. I'm pretty sure most of them would be against them if it wasn't for that. Which means that in this case money > opinions/reputation.

If you genuinely think Livecoin is good, then you can advertise all you want (unless they go full scam mode, which wouldn't be ok just like isn't ok to advertise an obvious Bitcoin doubler/ponzi). Right now, I (and many members) don't trust them. And I don't think even 1% of the candidates on their campaign actually trust them, which means they must only be doing it for the money.

Scam accusations doesn't prove them to be scam, and people think they didn't respond, of course they do, but you are just not satisfied.
Therefore, things should not be settled here, it should be in the court, tag should be "active scam accusation" or "shady exchange" but not a scammer.
The accusation is still open. I haven't declared that they are a scam and should be tagged/banned/arrested. And that's why I didn't tag them or any of the signature participants. I just don't trust them and have a feeling they had bad intentions with the user from the accusation.

But let's not focus on that since we have a scam accusation thread for that and we can never resolve that since it's a technical or probably a legal issue.
There is also the way they behavied - their answers, their shit ToS and how they blocked someone's account and keep deleting posts just because someone said something against them. Is this what a trusted exchange would do?

So other site I've mentioned aren't bad (red trust)? but we allow them to have exposure, that's fair because they are still operating and not proven to be a scam website at least at the court of law.
Aren't we still allowing Livecoin to run their campaign? Yobit is the only other case I know from the sites you mentioned above, and they are completley shit. But I don't think I would agree with tagging someone soleny for advertising them. Tagging someone and not trusting them are two very different things.

Everyone does, DTs remarks are based on their personal opinion only.
This doesn't change the fact that people still announce shady websites just for money. Making them untrustworthy in my eyes. Good people don't put money over principles and values. And to me, someone with principles wouldn't advetise them.
jr. member
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July 19, 2019, 09:59:24 PM
#4
I haven't seen an DT tagging anyone on the Livecoin campaign, or even suggesting that.
It will appropriate if DT's tag participant now.


My honest opinion (if that matters):
It matters. Smiley

if you know that some service is Yobit-kind of shady or a confirmed scam and still think advertising them for money is ok, then I don't trust you. What else is acceptable for you if enough money is on the line?

Is there any difference if I wear their signature without receiving money?
So, am I not allowed to wear a signature of the site I love because they have a scam accusation?
Scam accusations doesn't prove them to be scam, and people think they didn't respond, of course they do, but you are just not satisfied.
Therefore, things should not be settled here, it should be in the court, tag should be "active scam accusation" or "shady exchange" but not a scammer.

But let's not focus on that since we have a scam accusation thread for that and we can never resolve that since it's a technical or probably a legal issue.

So, we know they are bad but we will keep giving them exposure, as if they are ok,
So other site I've mentioned aren't bad (red trust)? but we allow them to have exposure, that's fair because they are still operating and not proven to be a scam website at least at the court of law.

because people need to do their research anyways?
Everyone does, DTs remarks are based on their personal opinion only.



I will not be tagging participants for wearing or applying to the Livecoin campaign, but I will remove anyone from a campaign I manage who tries joining Livecoin and helping advertise the site. considering blacklisting them from my campaigns.

That's how a real DT think, you don't abuse your position to influence others, you always do the right judgement by looking at the big picture.

I think you'll tag participants if there's a warning from the legal authority that livecoin is scam exchange and they are conducting an investigation.
Guess what? Authority conducts investigation due to numerous complaints, not just of one person's.

legendary
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July 19, 2019, 09:32:34 PM
#3
I haven't seen an DT tagging anyone on the Livecoin campaign, or even suggesting that.

Wearing a signature is not directly advertising the site, one can wear even without the knowledge of the site and one can wear to support because in his experience, he never have had any problem with the site.
My honest opinion (if that matters): if you know that some service is Yobit-kind of shady or a confirmed scam and still think advertising them for money is ok, then I don't trust you. What else is acceptable for you if enough money is on the line?

So this one person's scam accusation is enough for the community to conclude that Livecoin is a scam, isn't that fair?
Painting them red is already enough for people to see and judge based on the evidence but that is just a warning, you cannot prevent people from using the site if they themselves have a positive experience.
So, we know they are bad but we will keep giving them exposure, as if they are ok, because people need to do their research anyways?

Honestly, that must be one of the stupidiest things I ever read. You can tell yourself anything you want to sleep well at night, but facts are facts. You are directly helping a scam/shady service. Don't sell your reputation for pennies, ffs.
legendary
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July 19, 2019, 09:32:14 PM
#2
I noticed that a participant in a campaign I manage applied for the Livecoin campaign. I will not be tagging participants for wearing or applying to the Livecoin campaign, but I will remove anyone from a campaign I manage who tries joining Livecoin and helping advertise the site. considering blacklisting them from my campaigns.

I get it, users want to earn some bitcoin. There are other campaigns to apply for, besides campaigns that are proven to be scamming users though. I do not think that tagging participants is the answer but I do believe if they are willing to help a scam site out then they are not trustworthy. If other DT members tag them, I wouldn't be surprised. It's really like gambling when applying for the campaign. Is it worth it? I will be compiling a spreadsheet of everyone who applies for livecoin and considering blacklisting them from my campaigns.


The Livecoin issue is a pretty serious issue and they need to resolve their issues before trying to advertise on the forum. I personally have not had an issue with the exchange. Used them many times, but as you all know they will keep your coins hostage and make you delete negative press before even considering dealing with you. That's a load of shit period. Users are allowed to have an opinion, positive or negative.

jr. member
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July 19, 2019, 09:24:43 PM
#1
The drama is here again, too much hate for the Livecoin campaign as what is noticed.
Do I think participants should be tag?

Answer : NO...

To some DT please stop threatening participants that they will get red tag when they wear signature of Livecoin as that is NOT FAIR.
Red trust is for : Negative - You think that trading with this person is high-risk. You might also be able to add a flag.

DT consensus is very important to make this forum a great place for all of us and kindly educate the young DT to look at the big picture to evaluate the situation.

There are campaigns with negative trust or has an active scam accusations but participants are not warned or not tagged, so be fair to livecoin participants.

These are just some of the campaigns that DT's are not tagging the participants. (active and inactive)

Yobit -
sportsbet.io
NitrogenSports


Wearing a signature is not directly advertising the site, one can wear even without the knowledge of the site and one can wear to support because in his experience, he never have had any problem with the site.

So this one person's scam accusation is enough for the community to conclude that Livecoin is a scam, isn't that fair?
Painting them red is already enough for people to see and judge based on the evidence but that is just a warning, you cannot prevent people from using the site if they themselves have a positive experience.


Can we hear DT's thoughts on this concern?



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