Topic: Livecoin participants should be tag? - page 7. (Read 3561 times)

You asked yourself to be blacklisted IIRC, but now you are tagging accounts for participating a campaign which you think is shady.
I understand you are in DT2 now, so is this your strategy to misuse the trust system to be distrusted and finally out in the DT circle?

Tagging livecoin account is acceptable since there are evidence, but tagging participants? looks like a trust abuse to me.

Please use the trust system properly, is your tag falls to this definition ( Negative - You think that trading with this person is high-risk.)?
Everyone can support an exchange even if it's shady as long as it's not illegal IMO, crypto in general is also shady due to lack of regulation.

Remember you are a campaign manager and made money with livecoin during your time and you also owe that to the participants as you are paid based on their number of posts, you are acting weird lately Hhampuz, sorry to say that.

I would salute you if you do the same with other campaign which has negative rating, like sportsbet and bitcasino since they are the only active now.
Attaching the spreadsheet to make it easy for you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RWUX_cvehsv1YWm1JqvZUJKwyYa8o2MROUJhXV2O9lE/edit#gid=171440006

and by the way? where are you when yobit participants are wearing siggy? why so selective?

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And to all DT who are saying that participants should be tagged, how about checking the sportsbet and bitcasino ?

   
Livecoin.net Scam
June 28, 2019, 07:53:19 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51768566 - campaign was closed on July 09, 2019, 11:15:54 PM
Tag yourself at first for promoting "scam" for 11 days. Or maybe you would tag Sportsbet.io signature members (we have 1, 2, 3,  4, 5 opened Scam Accusations) (it's in 5 times more than against Livecoin)


The only thing that i really hate in people it is hypocrisy

That's funny how another "trusted" member like Yahoo telling us about blacklist or something, but forgot to ask Buzzshow project (Bounty of which was managed by him. And i think, our Justice warrior got paid in BTC, not buzz tokens) where the money for bounty participants (we didn't get paid after 1 YEAR lol). Of course not, project was succesfull (for Yahoo i guess.) and he didn't fucking care about anything related to this.

The second funny moment  is how our "trusted" member which were butthurting about KYC, Coinbase tax bills, FBI and others now crying "Livecoin ToC against law" (double lol, hyper mega lol). Guys, tell me for honest, how many of you paying income taxes for your crypto profit?
Maybe Yahoo for his business, or Hrampuz?

Why not? You're reffering to some kind of law. Then show me that you are eligible to say such words. Because without it it's very funny: "If something is good for me (avoiding taxes) than fuck the goverment, if not - Trumpy, please save us from this rude russians in offshores"


It's all without a fact, that all this situation was started by a scammer who want open MONA deposit/withdrawals. In russian topic about livecoin most of "victims" is red trusted noobs which recently started to write.
Most of reputable (really reputable, not like some english "trusted-for-200-dollars-loan" members) russian local members ignoring that situation (i don't mean ignoring as ignoring, english language doesn't have proper term (or i don't know him lol)). It's real problem, because 90 % of english board members didn't even saw alive russian in real life, all the more so to understand thinking patterns of slavs. Unlike people which live in postUSSR (me, Vadi2323, TheFuzzStone, Alex_Sr and others)

Don't you think that all this situation is weird, because all "victims" is russians with noob accounts?

Isn't tagging them also a way of warning them? I mean those tags can be removed or changed to neutral anytime the issue with that account is resolved. In this case, withdrawing from the signature campaign.

Start tagging them just from now maybe a bit harsh, atleast let them know and warn them for few hours, if they denied your warning and still wearing their signature then you might start tagging them.(just my opinion)

Whose multi account are you?

Call your name!

My positive stands, it has nothing to do with anything else besides what I referenced in it (The fact they entrusted me with ~0.5BTC each week for many weeks), and it was smooth to deal with them.

People kept talking about tagging the participants, or shaming them, without acting so I might as well do it.

You make a good point.

I think this is a bit harsh, just 11 days after you gave LiveCoin positive feedback.

Stop spewing bullshit about things of which you know nothing about.

Another reason why I feel signature campaign participants who support such campaigns are a disgrace to the community


All this retard cares about is losing a spot in the signature campaign and not the competency of the business to steal millions in the near future. I wonder where are they getting money to payout for signatures? Obviously, from their another victim's account.

Most users don't even read the posts they are replying too,  so I think it is possible that some of those people who applied didn't make any kind of research before applying, just looked at the payment and applied.

Of course, they are doing this on their own risk of getting tagged or damaging their reputation.

Also, as Hhampuz, a reputable manager, was managing the campaign before, and he gives the campaign credibility (even for the new one). Few people ever read Reputation board, so they probably do not know what happened.

A user could have been rejected by Hhampuz, and he saw an opportunity to join now this new campaign.

Sent you a PM, I was already planning to remove my application when I found out they have an open scam accusation but the thread was locked, can't edit it and I have to wait 24 hours before removing. I only manage to remove it now but you already tag me, please remove the tag, as you can see, I was not already wearing the signature before you posted here.

edit : thanks Hhampuz

Who the fuck are you OP? One of the LiveCoin signature campaign participants? You're right, they should not be tagged for wearing the signature but you should be tagged for not having balls to post from your main account.

On the topic, I will never trust any member that likes to promote a site which has proven records of operating in a shady way. This is mean, this is biased and shows they are only concerned about their money regardless of whichever sources it's coming from. In the long run, these members will turn out to be big scammers or someone you can't/shouldn't be trusting your money with. I'll take this signature campaign support as a sign and maybe add them to my distrust list.

I'll start tagging the participants, let's see where it ends  

EDIT1: Tagged all members that applied on the first page, will do 2nd page tomorrow.

With more than 500 DT-members, there's never going to be consensus, and I don't think that's necessary either. A decentralized trust system means all DT-members have to use their individual judgement.

That being said, I won't tag them, but I can imagine someone else will.

Correct. Unlike real-world advertising, where it's totally "normal" to advertise (almost) any product that pays for it, a signature advertising is much more personal.

I'm surprised to see quite a few familiar names on the list.
I'll post your list with some additional details:
    1. Legendary seleme (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    2. Hero Member n0ne (Trust: neutral) (8 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    3. Legendary cygan (Trust: neutral) (41 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    4. Hero Member pieppiep (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    5. Hero Member tenakha (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)
    6. Legendary PuertoLibre (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    7. Legendary bryant.coleman (Trust: neutral) (22 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    8. Hero Member mrdeposit (Trust: neutral) (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    9. Legendary sana54210 (Trust: neutral) (42 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   10. Legendary mr_random (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   11. Hero Member StephenJH (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   12. Legendary hanspeter77 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (22 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   13. Legendary STT (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (133 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   14. Hero Member wwzsocki (Trust: neutral) (543 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   15. Hero Member klaaas (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (31 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   16. Legendary beerlover (Trust: neutral) (57 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP) (retracted)
   17. Legendary 2double0 (Trust: neutral) (17 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   18. Legendary SquallLeonhart (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)
   19. Legendary kodtycoon (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   20. Hero Member Dalmar (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   21. Hero Member Haunebu (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (35 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   22. Legendary RealMalatesta (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (7 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   23. Hero Member feryjhie (Trust: neutral) (86 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   24. Hero Member Danslip (Trust: neutral) (6 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   25. Legendary safari88 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   26. Legendary Paredao (Trust: neutral) (39 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   27. Legendary 7788bitcoin (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   28. Legendary ChrisPop (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (4 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   29. Copper Member killyou72 (Trust: +13 / =3 / -0) (383 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   30. Hero Member SirLancelot (Trust: neutral) (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   31. Legendary Shinpako09 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (13 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   32. Legendary Dewi Aries (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   33. Hero Member acroman08 (Trust: neutral) (7 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   34. Hero Member barbara44 (Trust: neutral) (8 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   35. Hero Member darewaller (Trust: neutral) (32 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   36. Hero Member jostorres (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   37. Hero Member justdimin (Trust: neutral) (25 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   38. Hero Member BitBustah (Trust: neutral) (34 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   39. Hero Member johhnyUA (Trust: neutral) (297 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   40. Legendary freedomgo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (43 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   41. Legendary Strongkored (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   42. Legendary stadus (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (121 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   43. Hero Member Halmater (Trust: neutral) (121 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   44. Hero Member Mometaskers (Trust: neutral) (48 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   45. Legendary fortunecrypto (Trust: neutral) (21 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   46. Hero Member guoyu78 (Trust: neutral) (36 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   47. Hero Member Mahanton (Trust: neutral) (7 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   48. Hero Member Sanitough (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (35 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   49. Hero Member akamit (Trust: neutral) (47 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   50. Hero Member hulla (Trust: neutral) (25 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   51. Hero Member Distinctin (Trust: neutral) (27 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   52. Hero Member blockman (Trust: neutral) (14 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   53. Hero Member Russlenat (Trust: neutral) (59 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   54. Hero Member carlisle1 (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   55. Hero Member Mike Mayor (Trust: neutral) (15 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   56. Hero Member Ryan Dugan (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   57. Hero Member traderethereum (Trust: neutral) (8 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   58. Hero Member coin-investor (Trust: neutral) (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   59. Hero Member SaShiRaJaVu (Trust: neutral) (17 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   60. Hero Member bitcoinisbest (Trust: neutral) (22 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   61. Hero Member Cacingkemi (Trust: neutral) (5 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   62. Hero Member Darker45 (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   63. Copper Member crwth (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (296 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   64. Hero Member aundroid (Trust: neutral) (416 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   65. Hero Member xenon131 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (436 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

There is no drama, there is user whose funds are kept in hostage by exchange. This whole LiveCoin situation reminds me of this:



source: https://www.azquotes.com/quote/590734

Interpret this as you wish!

They'll still be on this list and be considered last options if slots open or new campaigns open, but users who leave livecoin or remove their application will not be added to BLACKLIST

I applaud the intention behind this step of yours but how effective will this be since participants who aren't accepted into the campaign can easily delete their application now to escape your blacklist and reapply when there's an open slot. You're a little bit late, technically only those who can be affected now are those already accepted into the campaign others can out smart the blacklisting mechanism.

It will be appropriate punishment if all managers make their own blacklist and add all of participant who have applied on Livecoin signature. Not only who have accepted, also make blacklist who have applied as well. I think this is better instead of red tag to participant. So they will not able to join any other campaign especially for btc campaign.

Here is the Archived thread with all reply: http://archive.is/QJrHO

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oE7dAXf2tuKCtbpoc9Xx66qcCjWwbArnXlkuFQq-wcs/edit?usp=sharing Just posting this here for the record. These users are willing to support Livecoin and have made it on my own personal blacklist.

Any user on this list may be removed if they remove their application in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/open-livecoinnet-signature-campaign-herolegendary-weekly-up-to-01btc-5166711 this thread and pm me showing it is removed. Users in this list have 72 hours to do so, or they remain on the blacklist permanently.  July 23rd 6:20 am is the deadline

You're perfectly spot on here. Wish I had a Merit to spare here. Sometimes, I wonder why the admins don't wage the big stick on stuff like this. I guess the defence for them would be to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. But then allowing this go on can damage the reputation of the forum and make it loose like most crypto fora. It then behooves them to take a stand, for a timely intervention in a situation like this is necessary and I implore the admins to act fast. Except we should be led by the body language of admins which suggests helplessness.