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newbie
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Also, I'm not sure he needs more investors.

Since he is lifting all referral restrictions in August, doesn't it seems like it?

Seriously, if it was a ponzi, don't you think he would take some of the advice about reassuring new investors?

He doesn't need to find new investors himself, he delegated that job to all the passtrough-programs.
legendary
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HODL OR DIE
Perhaps the pirate is a group of people. Then when the ponzi collapses everyone is looking for a non-existent pirate. Of course I could be wrong.
legendary
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Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.

If they tell you then everyone will begin doing it  Smiley

Well if 'they' 'know' then whats to stop the from doing it aswell? If they know, and can't/don't want to tell us then say so. Ambiguous comments will just fuel further speculation and accusations.

Because I've got other shit to do and pirateat40 pays me enough to let him handle it.  Sure, if he were more open he could potentially get more investors, but he would definitely have more competition.  Also, I'm not sure he needs more investors.  OMG, it might not be a ponzi Tongue.  Seriously, if it was a ponzi, don't you think he would take some of the advice about reassuring new investors?

In other words, pirate's sitting pretty and doesn't need to give a shit about all the people with nothing better to do than brainstorm crazy ass theories.
legendary
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Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.

Most of us already know what Pirate does, we have known for months. I did not go to unlocked the secrets of Pirate. He has been very open about what he does.

LIKE THIS

My personal funds will stay with pirate. I went to Vegas cuz I have never been and thought this would be an epic time to go.

It was legendary:)

Let me just quote you on this for the record so that if it turns out it was stealing or defrauding people, you admitted being an accessory to the crime.

Right, because totally can't edit other people's posts when you quote them.  That will hold up well Roll Eyes.
legendary
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If some of you guys expected anything else from this thread - you are being naive.
Anyone who went there, went to have some fun, meet people and take time off.

Glad you had a blast!
full member
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Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.

If they tell you then everyone will begin doing it  Smiley

Well if 'they' 'know' then whats to stop the from doing it aswell? If they know, and can't/don't want to tell us then say so. Ambiguous comments will just fuel further speculation and accusations.
hero member
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Wat
Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.

If they tell you then everyone will begin doing it  Smiley
legendary
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Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.

Most of us already know what Pirate does, we have known for months. I did not go to unlocked the secrets of Pirate. He has been very open about what he does.

My personal funds will stay with pirate. I went to Vegas cuz I have never been and thought this would be an epic time to go.

It was legendary:)

Let me just quote you on this for the record so that if it turns out it was stealing or defrauding people, you admitted being an accessory to the crime.
sr. member
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Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.

Most of us already know what Pirate does, we have known for months.
Very funny.
full member
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Why is nobody addressing the questions in this thread? We don't really care that you all sat round a table and played craps. This is not important. The purpose of this thread, and probably some of the members who attended this conference was to determine the nature of what pirate runs and if what he does is secure for the long term. Can you answer this?

If you cannot answer these questions or after talking to him still don't know the answer then say so. It's not hard.
aq
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legendary
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Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust.  We're trying to access that trust part.  Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out.  Would I have gone if I had the opportunity?  Yes, yes I would have.  But that possibility was unrealistic.

Chances are you would not have been invited, just like teflone.

He was the first to answer to this thread, and seemed the most interested user. And then what? Oops, forgotten to call?

Sometimes you just have to try harder if you really want something to happen.
legendary
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Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust.  We're trying to access that trust part.  Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out.  Would I have gone if I had the opportunity?  Yes, yes I would have.  But that possibility was unrealistic.

Chances are you would not have been invited, just like teflone.

He was the first to answer to this thread, and seemed the most interested user. And then what? Oops, forgotten to call?
legendary
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It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.
Thanks for posting facts as well! Smiley
sr. member
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Good stuff, thanks Giga Smiley
hero member
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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB
It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.

Thanks for the invite guys, that showed some real top class elitism...  
AFAIK, all you had to do was contact Pirate for details on where he'd be when. Did he deny you?

He took my number... said he would call with details..

Its all good I see how this works now, us common folk were not welcome I guess...

Solid!  Smiley



Two groups of Bitcoiners meeting up in the same conference and not intersocializing between the two..

Laughable...



I really really enjoyed the bitcoiners I did meet, great people, talking with them about bitcoin truly made my trip, and I thank them all.
donator
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It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.

Thanks for the invite guys, that showed some real top class elitism... 
AFAIK, all you had to do was contact Pirate for details on where he'd be when. Did he deny you?

ETA: Oh...
hero member
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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB
It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.

Thanks for the invite guys, that showed some real top class elitism... 
legendary
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It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.

Perhaps I can clarify the problem here.

Nobody here, except for a select few, really have any idea of what Pirate does.  Furthermore, he is responsible for a lot of peoples' money.

Also, nobody here, except for a select few, have any sum of Bitcoins anywhere near the amount that Pirate, you, Goat, and likely several of the other ones that flew to Vegas have.  Additionally, many that flew to Vegas are some of Pirate's 'first in line' if you will -- they run pass-throughs and/or have very early Pirate accounts.

Consider how this appears from those outside looking in.  Some of the biggest names in Bitcoin meet with the 'biggest dog' (known, that is) in Bitcoin.  Yet, after this meeting, not much at all is said.

For example, nothing is said about...
1)  If Pirate appears as he does in the photos that are believed to be of him
2)  If Pirate discussed his operations or continuing plans for operation with those who attended
3)  If Pirate seems (opinion, of course) as though he is acting in the best interest of his lenders
4)  If Pirate seems (opinion, of course) as though he is acting in the best interest of Bitcoin

And thus many of us are left to wonder...

1)  Is Pirate going to steal everyone's money? E.G. by selling all BTC and crashing the market, killing everyone's investments.
2)  Are there others on the Bitcoin forum who are working as a part of Pirate's operation (i.e. they do more than lend Pirate BTC)
3)  Is Pirate (or others) deliberately trying to to mask his identity?

Etc., etc., etc.

Here's the thing.  Pirate has said things like "I'm looking to pull one bigger than my Bitcoin."  It's a big mistake for him to say something like this.  As I've said before, I'm almost completely sure about what Pirate does, but when he makes statements like that, it's really quite stupid of him if he wants to be truly successful.  It was solely because of those types of comments that I withdrew my PPT investments.  I don't even think Pirate has even said something along the lines of, "To my lenders -- I have your best interest at heart."  

To people that have a lot of money to begin with (i.e. those that flew to Vegas), it's easy to say "have trust in actions!" and forget the words, but to those without a lot of money, those words cast a large shadow of doubt.

Pirate's operation is called Bitcoin Savings & Trust.  We're trying to access that trust part.  Some of us don't have the time or money to fly to Vegas to check the guy out.  Would I have gone if I had the opportunity?  Yes, yes I would have.  But that possibility was unrealistic.

Now, with regards to you, GigaVPS, we assume that you are a lender, just like us, and are no different than the rest of us in the sense that we assume that you are a simple Pirate investor.  However, vague responses like "I have seen a Pirate, and he looks like a Pirate," while ultimately playful in nature, appear much different to the rest of the community.  It seems as though you are intentionally hiding something, or that Pirate has asked that you not reveal too much about what was discussed, etc.

Given that this forum has been virtually obsessed with Pirate's operation for the last 2 months, you have an opportunity to help relieve some of the community's worries.  Care to help us out a bit?

On a side note, Pirate, if you're reading this, consider what I just said.  You could actually have more investors deposit (more than you do already, thus allowing yourself the opportunity to profit even more) if you yourself alleviated some of these worries rather than displaying your typical brazen attitude.  That attitude might work because you have leverage, and you have the leverage you do because of your wealthiest lenders.  But, there are little guys here too who prefer reassurance rather than brazenness.  
legendary
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gigavps, great to hear you had a blast!  it's funny to hear a meetup turn into an investigation lmao.
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