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Quote from: bambolina on October 24, 2022, 08:29:00 AM

Hi there, it could be better but at least I'm not gambling.
Regarding the views I don't have a clue but I did opened as many thread as I could In many gambling forums and I guess this attracted people to follow the thread.
I really hope who saw the thread will stay away from this casino as they have zero integrity.

My advice is to provide all the evidence you have and open as many threads as possible as reputation is alla casino has hope people will back you up.

I am extremely greatful to the gambling community for the support recieved as without them the casino would have just ignored me.

Have you received all the funds? If yes, then there is still a valid point to avoid this site. I do not think you could recover all of your funds if you are not aware of the forum and if you could not post on the forum. And also you have tried to reach them out almost all the way which is not possible for everyone. I never recommended such a site.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on October 18, 2022, 11:43:30 AM

@Bambolina how's it going these days? Could you please tell me something: How come that you got 20,000 views for this topic? I highly suspect these were clicks from another website, when I see the normal views count for other subjects. Can you tell how you managed to get that much views for your thread? I'd be interested in doing the same for this one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279
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Hi there, it could be better but at least I'm not gambling.
Regarding the views I don't have a clue but I did opened as many thread as I could In many gambling forums and I guess this attracted people to follow the thread.
I really hope who saw the thread will stay away from this casino as they have zero integrity.

My advice is to provide all the evidence you have and open as many threads as possible as reputation is alla casino has hope people will back you up.

I am extremely greatful to the gambling community for the support recieved as without them the casino would have just ignored me.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 17, 2022, 06:48:02 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on October 17, 2022, 06:26:15 PM

So I saw this guy post a link today in another thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61129530

Does this prove that he is behind the shady LTC Casino?

Probably.

Just found their blog has an entry trashing Wazden:

https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/wazdan-glitchy-slots-that-harm-casinos-and-players-alike/

From the second half:

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LTC Casino and Wazdan’s Power of Gods: Hades
The Emucasino incident revealed another vital detail: Wazdan games may contain vulnerabilities. This information can bring massive profits for those with proper skills ready to act maliciously. After the attackers narrowed the search to Wazdan titles, it didn’t take much to find a bug.

Next, the question arose of where to exploit the bug with minimal risk of detection. The choice fell on LTC Casino – an anonymous crypto casino with instant payouts.

The attackers created an account, made a deposit, and immediately proceeded to the vulnerable slot – Power of Gods: Hades, another Wazdan’s creation employing the Hold and Win mechanics. Despite the success during the preliminary testing, they couldn’t replicate it. After a bumpy start, the attackers blackmailed the casino and demanded their deposits back since losing money was not a part of their plans.

Still, they were confident about their findings. To exclude possible external factors, they closed sunk accounts and continued to play the same game on new ones, since it is allowed by the LTC Casino terms. In total, they made about 50,000 spins in Power of Gods: Hades without placing a single bet in any other game. If you have ever played at an online casino, you realize that this approach has nothing to do with pleasing gameplay, especially when you lose.

But this is only true if you are not certain that the game is guaranteed to pay off. When they finally managed to trigger the bug, it was easy for them to win the grand jackpot of x3000 three times throughout 13,000 spins. According to Wazdan’s statement, the probability of hitting the grand jackpot in Power of Gods: Hades is 1:166000. Thus, the odds of hitting three grand jackpots in such a short period are virtually non-existent.

This was the only information that LTC Casino managed to get from Wazdan. The developer ignored all other issues, including the request to conduct a detailed analysis of all rounds and sessions on the player’s accounts, not just the winning spins. The studio even refused to disclose the volatility level at which the game was played. This information was of key importance for the casino’s investigation after the provider turned down its own.

The reluctance of some providers to target themselves is understandable since this entails reputational damage and possibly even substantial restitutions. Wazdan has shown that they are not averse to such practices either, leaving troubleshooting to their shell operator Volt Entertainment, which avoids mentioning the head company and prefers a vague “us”, and refusing to conduct a detailed investigation when it is obviously needed. Indeed, it is much easier to conceal a bug that does not have such a visual reflection as in Prosperity Pearls.

Conclusion
If you are interested in the Power of Gods: Hades bug, we hate to break it to you. Most likely, it was identified and silently fixed by the developer. Furthermore, it is impracticable to exploit bugs without special software. Such software was also used in this case, as evidenced by thousands of non-stop spins, impossible through the in-game autospin feature, and the sessions of 16 hours or more. Few players can sustain this pace, but computers are perfect for it.

Crucially, no one knows what bugs remain in Wazdan slots. They pose risks for both casino operators and players. For casinos, it means that they may pay out illegitimate winnings without much help from the provider. And if you are a player, the situation is not much better. Don’t be filled with enthusiasm when you win big in Wazdan slots, as your winnings may be a result of an in-game error. What’s more, such bugs may work both ways. In other words, the RTP may be much lower than expected, but you will never know about it.

Guess they decided not to include the obvious lie that after investigating softswiss "unequivocally" determined the win was fraudulent and just used their own flawed "player only played one game, played 50,000 spins and then hit two 3,000x wins - must be cheating!" logic.

Usually it's players making the outrageous claims of being cheated, not the casino.

Ltc casino never shared the alleged Softwiss statement because cheating never happened and Sofswiss would have to face wadzan make such a false accusations.
I have nothings to lose anymore and since I never cheated and I was scared of not getting paid I never tried to force Ltc to share Softwiss statement.

Ltc casino should share it and clear their names as for months they called a cheater with no proves and also made such a defamatory accusations against their provider wadzan.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on October 18, 2022, 11:48:32 PM

I can bet I'm actually way off better than you are.

I will concede you are better at being way off than me.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 18, 2022, 08:02:41 PM

and the only reason I'm giving you any attention right now is to point out your silly vendetta so others know to check out your post history to get the real story.

I did not ask you.
No, the only reason you do that is because you're a loser with nothing else to do. I can bet I'm actually way off better than you are.

Since your intellectual level is too low for it to be even worth reading your messages, you're now on my ignore list.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on October 18, 2022, 11:43:30 AM

@Bambolina how's it going these days? Could you please tell me something: How come that you got 20,000 views for this topic? I highly suspect these were clicks from another website, when I see the normal views count for other subjects. Can you tell how you managed to get that much views for your thread? I'd be interested in doing the same for this one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279

They made a credible scam accusation 7 months ago, it was an active thread for much of those 8 months, the casino and the provider both participated.

It's clear what's going on here though with you. You're butt hurt that nobody took your Fortune Jack accusation seriously and now you seem to be motivated by spite and apparently some conspiracy theory involving paid signatures. It's pathetic really, and the only reason I'm giving you any attention right now is to point out your silly vendetta so others know to check out your post history to get the real story. Take a break from the internet, it will be good for your mental health.

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@Bambolina how's it going these days? Could you please tell me something: How come that you got 20,000 views for this topic? I highly suspect these were clicks from another website, when I see the normal views count for other subjects. Can you tell how you managed to get that much views for your thread? I'd be interested in doing the same for this one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on October 17, 2022, 06:26:15 PM

Does this prove that he is behind the shady LTC Casino?

I have done a lot of research which wasn't necessary and still, you have no answer regarding that. But if you see the trust of that person then you could know that the self-confession of that person is that s/he is the owner of LTC casino. Evidence: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59185512 You can see this has been mentioned on his/her trust page.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on October 17, 2022, 06:26:15 PM

So I saw this guy post a link today in another thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61129530

Does this prove that he is behind the shady LTC Casino?

Probably.

Just found their blog has an entry trashing Wazden:

https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/wazdan-glitchy-slots-that-harm-casinos-and-players-alike/

From the second half:

Quote

LTC Casino and Wazdan’s Power of Gods: Hades
The Emucasino incident revealed another vital detail: Wazdan games may contain vulnerabilities. This information can bring massive profits for those with proper skills ready to act maliciously. After the attackers narrowed the search to Wazdan titles, it didn’t take much to find a bug.

Next, the question arose of where to exploit the bug with minimal risk of detection. The choice fell on LTC Casino – an anonymous crypto casino with instant payouts.

The attackers created an account, made a deposit, and immediately proceeded to the vulnerable slot – Power of Gods: Hades, another Wazdan’s creation employing the Hold and Win mechanics. Despite the success during the preliminary testing, they couldn’t replicate it. After a bumpy start, the attackers blackmailed the casino and demanded their deposits back since losing money was not a part of their plans.

Still, they were confident about their findings. To exclude possible external factors, they closed sunk accounts and continued to play the same game on new ones, since it is allowed by the LTC Casino terms. In total, they made about 50,000 spins in Power of Gods: Hades without placing a single bet in any other game. If you have ever played at an online casino, you realize that this approach has nothing to do with pleasing gameplay, especially when you lose.

But this is only true if you are not certain that the game is guaranteed to pay off. When they finally managed to trigger the bug, it was easy for them to win the grand jackpot of x3000 three times throughout 13,000 spins. According to Wazdan’s statement, the probability of hitting the grand jackpot in Power of Gods: Hades is 1:166000. Thus, the odds of hitting three grand jackpots in such a short period are virtually non-existent.

This was the only information that LTC Casino managed to get from Wazdan. The developer ignored all other issues, including the request to conduct a detailed analysis of all rounds and sessions on the player’s accounts, not just the winning spins. The studio even refused to disclose the volatility level at which the game was played. This information was of key importance for the casino’s investigation after the provider turned down its own.

The reluctance of some providers to target themselves is understandable since this entails reputational damage and possibly even substantial restitutions. Wazdan has shown that they are not averse to such practices either, leaving troubleshooting to their shell operator Volt Entertainment, which avoids mentioning the head company and prefers a vague “us”, and refusing to conduct a detailed investigation when it is obviously needed. Indeed, it is much easier to conceal a bug that does not have such a visual reflection as in Prosperity Pearls.

Conclusion
If you are interested in the Power of Gods: Hades bug, we hate to break it to you. Most likely, it was identified and silently fixed by the developer. Furthermore, it is impracticable to exploit bugs without special software. Such software was also used in this case, as evidenced by thousands of non-stop spins, impossible through the in-game autospin feature, and the sessions of 16 hours or more. Few players can sustain this pace, but computers are perfect for it.

Crucially, no one knows what bugs remain in Wazdan slots. They pose risks for both casino operators and players. For casinos, it means that they may pay out illegitimate winnings without much help from the provider. And if you are a player, the situation is not much better. Don’t be filled with enthusiasm when you win big in Wazdan slots, as your winnings may be a result of an in-game error. What’s more, such bugs may work both ways. In other words, the RTP may be much lower than expected, but you will never know about it.

Guess they decided not to include the obvious lie that after investigating softswiss "unequivocally" determined the win was fraudulent and just used their own flawed "player only played one game, played 50,000 spins and then hit two 3,000x wins - must be cheating!" logic.

Usually it's players making the outrageous claims of being cheated, not the casino.

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So I saw this guy post a link today in another thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61129530

Does this prove that he is behind the shady LTC Casino?

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'bambolina' has received those withdrawals which he requested from the casino, but he has lost a part of his account balance by placing bets. I have removed the negative feedback from LTC Casino representative account. But I have left a neutral feedback as their behaviour is questionable.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on October 06, 2022, 05:18:35 AM

For @LTC Casino solving this case doesn't mean your reputation has been cleaned up, you need to prove if you're not a scammer by run your casinos with the current reputation and never deny any complaints.

They have increased their withdrawal limit recently, but still they have the shabby rules where they reserves the right to block users account for doing so called investigation. Therefore, we shouldn't trust such casino.

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Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

Nobody gives a shit as always here, but slowly becomes a story for the signature users where is a battle Goliath vs David.

That's it, you've got it right.

Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

The casino decides to give him the money[...] He loses everything and he again blames the casino.

Also agree.

Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

I do consider advertising any kind of business regarding gambling online and mostly crypto gambling without any legislation or respect to the players as I see on 99% of the casinos is a lack of self respect, low quality users, who think their opinion matters with the cost of other people's live for 50cents a post.

Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

But the casino is not to blame as the community assumes.

Agreed as well. A lot of problem gamblers in these kind of situations find a way to block gambling. I myself was able once to make weekly withdrawals for over a year due to withdraw limits, and I am more of a problem gambler than Bambolina, because with an open and free internet access wouldn't have been able to resist the temptation to gamble again as long as he did. It's his fault and nobody else's.

Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

But the community knows nothing, only a few users cared of the subject. I have to mention LoyceV , Pmalek. But users as Shashan and many more were just haters with no reasoning before posting.[/b]

Here I disagree. Look at what LoyceV stated above. He accused LTCCasino of lying when they have been provably telling the truth. He's no different than all of the dishonest people he gives merit to as a merit source himself. I believe he's actually one of the main reasons this place has become a hall for thieves and scams, since in his trust system scammers and thieves are allowed to have good trust scores, some way or another.

Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

This is how I remember this topic as I watched every reply and post since it was made. I hope the forum will get rid of the casino signatures as it destroys lives.

You can think of it whatever you want, but getting rid of signature campaigns will not resolve the problem of the deceitful advertisement we find here. When you have dishonest people running the forum, they'll always find a way to be dishonest and reck about anything that was meant to be good. It has nothing to do with strategy about how to run the forum. It has more to do with how they have been raised, the choices they have made in life. These are not solved by someone making a different strategy to run the forum.

Quote from: saxydev on October 06, 2022, 03:27:59 PM

bambolina while having problems with the withdraw from ltc casino and they gave access to it after months:

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Hi everyone.

First I would like to comfirm that I can access to my account.

Thank you.

I have made a deposit of 15ltc the transaction is still pending.

YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND HE HAD 1500 LTC PENDING FROM THE CASINO AND HE YET MADE A DEPOSIT! FKING HELL!

Yeah this one is amazing, I could have never imagined anyone do this.

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Quote from: LTC Casino on October 06, 2022, 12:00:53 PM

By the way, since I brought up our reputation and third-party forums, the complaint from OP has long been closed and OP has no claims against us:

https://casino.guru/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked-and-audited

I don't think anyone is saying you technically owe OP any money. Your reputation is due to you being a dishonest scum bag.

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So user, degenerate gambler as I am sometimes. I have my own records playing 53 hours without 10 minutes of sleep, just seconds of eating etc (just had it last month.) wins amazing jackpots.

The casino investigates, for no reason from our point of view, maybe from theirs perspective as business.

Bambolina, is stressed as he is probably in lot of debt or living a life on edge and he spams with his long and annoying messages.

Nobody gives a shit as always here, but slowly becomes a story for the signature users where is a battle Goliath vs David.

The casino announces to hire or ask a private organisation to do checkings as a provider had some issues in the past and might have now as well. And let's be serious, a small provider if we are here to compare with NetEnt and PragmaticPlay.

The casino gets a tag even if the periode in their ToS is not reached for investigation as the community is their own judge and ignores a reasonable timeline for an investigation.

During this time the provider comes into the discussion as many probably reached out with google high ranking bitcointalk, perhaps upper than their own official site.

The provider obviously denies any link with the casino, but their shady contracts allows their games to be resselled to anyone; as well ignore any kind of wrong doing even though they had issues in the past.

The casino releases with 2 weeks delay over their time in ToS and I have to say, it is lower than Gandom, Stake or FortuneJack usually take for this kind of investigation, but the community is ignorant.

The casino received a lot of demages from the bambolina, on his fair right, he fought to receives his own money, he indeed posted everywhere he was able to post for the people to hear him out.

In the end Wazdan, withdraws from the conversation and everyone ignores the possible may be a bug from them, the community ignores the stupid argument they first gave with the hours of playing on the casino of the player and move forward to the accusations on the casino.

The casino decides to give him the money. They impose an acceptable low limit of daily withdraws in comapration with the price of the litecoin of the time of the decision. Meanwhile litecoin drops in price and the user as being a degenerate gambler, he can't gamble anymore with feeling the small ammount he receives from the casino daily.

He loses everything and he again blames the casino.

Indeed the casino should've increased the limit of the user as the price of the ltc dropped, but it is what it is.

I do consider advertising any kind of business regarding gambling online and mostly crypto gambling without any legislation or respect to the players as I see on 99% of the casinos is a lack of self respect, low quality users, who think their opinion matters with the cost of other people's live for 50cents a post.

But the casino is not to blame as the community assumes. But the community knows nothing, only a few users cared of the subject. I have to mention LoyceV , Pmalek. But users as Shashan and many more were just haters with no reasoning before posting.

This is how I remember this topic as I watched every reply and post since it was made. I hope the forum will get rid of the casino signatures as it destroys lives.

bambolina while having problems with the withdraw from ltc casino and they gave access to it after months:

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Hi everyone.

First I would like to comfirm that I can access to my account.

Thank you.

I have made a deposit of 15ltc the transaction is still pending.

YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND HE HAD 1500 LTC PENDING FROM THE CASINO AND HE YET MADE A DEPOSIT! FKING HELL!

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By the way, since I brought up our reputation and third-party forums, the complaint from OP has long been closed and OP has no claims against us:

https://casino.guru/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked-and-audited

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on October 06, 2022, 05:18:35 AM

For @LTC Casino solving this case doesn't mean your reputation has been cleaned up, you need to prove if you're not a scammer by run your casinos with the current reputation and never deny any complaints.

I'm really surprised that this is where they write so much about the reputation of our casino, and based on only one case (!!!), which was successfully resolved in favor of the player (!!!). While, I have to reiterate, we have acted in strict accordance with the rules, and carried out payments strictly within the limits without delay.

On specialized forums, there are regular complaints from players and all of them are successfully resolved. Here is a recent case for example:

https://casinoguru-en.com/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked

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Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

Unfortunately I had a relapse and after withdrawing 1/3 of the amount won i played the remaining.

That's too bad. I hope you manage to find professional help because you are going down a path that is self-destructive. I hope you will turn things around.

Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

This was surely the plan of the casino anyways knowing I was a compulsive gambler.

That doesn't matter. The decisions you took are yours and so are the consequences.

Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

They refused to pay my winning at once ( I would have settle for less)

The withdrawal rules and maximum allowed amounts were clearly explained. You were allowed to withdraw according to those weekly limits.

Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

Unfortunately there is not protection for vulnerable players, I would have loved to take less money and close my account but
They refused so I had to fight a battle with myself and of course I have lost it.

And who is to say you wouldn't have gambled with that smaller amount? Or waited a month and then gambled it all away on this or some other online casino? You need to protect yourself and those close to you. If you don't no one else will. Good luck!

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Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

-snip-

I have no idea why you can gamble at the same casino which you've a problem with it while there's many trusted casino out there.

At least we know @OP actually could withdraw all of his winnings, but he choose to gamble and lose most of his money.

For @LTC Casino solving this case doesn't mean your reputation has been cleaned up, you need to prove if you're not a scammer by run your casinos with the current reputation and never deny any complaints.

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Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

Hi everyone,
I wanted to update you all on the matter.
Unfortunately I had a relapse and after withdrawing 1/3 of the amount won i played the remaining.
This was surely the plan of the casino anyways knowing I was a compulsive gambler.
They refused to pay my winning at once ( I would have settle for less)eventough they took 3 months to verify my winnings and accused me of cheating without proving it.as I never cheated so they knew at the end they had to accept the winning after I made so much noise.
Unfortunately there is not protection for vulnerable players, I would have loved to take less money and close my account but
They refused so I had to fight a battle with myself and of course I have lost it.
iT is what it is.
I would not recommend anyone to play on this site as if u ever win They will use any excuse not paying you ,lie and even accuse the software provider.
I wanted to thank everyone who supported this case as I wouldn't have obtain the result I did .
I will not withdraw the flags as people should be warn of their ill malpractice.
I own my mistake as Unfortunately a compulsive gambler without a serious and respectable casino who respects the player wish will fail.
They knew I would have relapse and not paying the money.
To whoever is tempted to sign in be aware that the casino will take 3 months to " verify " your winnings and will accuse you all the evil in the world for not paying you.
There is not self-exclusion or time out rule and the cash out has caps for 75ltc a week and 300 ltc max a month.
Ill be take a long break as im not well but I wanted to say thank you and now that I don't feel threaten of not being paid I can honestly say " STAY AWAY".

FLAGS STAYS AS THEY DESERVE IT.
Thanks again everyone.

Dear player, I am sorry that you lost some of your winnings, but we have already discussed this aspect many times:

- LTC Casino is anonymous and there is no possibility to block your account. You knew that when you decided to start playing at our casino.

- You have repeatedly told me in private messages (if you don't mind me making them public here) that you don't have any complaints and are satisfied with the fact that you get your winnings according to the limits

- You have repeatedly told me in private messages that you will do everything possible to eliminate the red flag (we leave it up to you and have no right to demand anything)

- Your last message is filled with disappointment and frustration at losing, but contradicts our actions and your own promises. Again, we acted according to the rules and paid you your winnings. There was and is no reason for us to make exceptions and waive withdrawal limits for anyone in particular, particularly you. Not to mention the fact that you once wrote that you would be happy to at least get your deposit back without expecting to get winnings. We paid you your winnings by fulfilling our obligations and acting with integrity.

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Quote from: bambolina on October 05, 2022, 06:58:59 AM

Unfortunately there is not protection for vulnerable players

Chances are you would have deposited it to another casino. Playing here again was just plain stupid: if you lose, your money is gone. If you would have won, they would accuse you of cheating again and your money would also be gone. That's a lose-lose scenario.

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I will not withdraw the flags as people should be warn of their ill malpractice.

Actually, you did withdraw both Flags already, but people can still Support them (that's how the Flags system works).

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I own my mistake as Unfortunately a compulsive gambler

Get the help you need.

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