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April 06, 2022, 05:51:34 AM
#89
Another week has pass and radio silence from LTC casino, not official game provider statement shared.
No updates and not evidence against me provided, they are keeping my money without reasons and the casino refuses to communicate with me directly.

Shame on them.

The villains always wins.


let's wait until the end of this month to see what arguments they will bring or if they will remain silent, at some point they will have to say something, be patient they only have two options:

1- come and say you are innocent and give what you got

2 - come and say you're guilty and give you nothing

so be patient because they will have to show up and say one of these options


Ten days since they reply to their last post.
The game provider said that they already sent all they requested and they say the casino is not saying the truth.
I shared last email sent by Wazdan support.
Its so long now that they close my account and they clearly struggle to prove their assumptions ,understandly since I did not cheat.
Looks like everytime someone wins big they will have to go through this ordeal.
The casino is fun only when you lose, when you win the fun ends
Casino guru checked the game history  and the game provider too few times ,yet the casino will not accept that a player can win honestly, which makes me wonder  why they also brag about  having gthe highest  RTP and then the question  the slots, the player and the game provider.

How can a  casino makes assumptions and.not be able to accept two different  third party confirming there was not cheating and the casino themselves with all their means after so many years of experience not be able to give tiny bit of evidence of the reason they are keeping the player money.
The Ltc rep hasn't reply from 10 days!!!! This is how much they cared about their reputation.

I wish  I could belive in them but but now I start  to feel they are  just playing a game. 😔😔😔


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April 03, 2022, 06:57:41 PM
#88
Another week has pass and radio silence from LTC casino, not official game provider statement shared.
No updates and not evidence against me provided, they are keeping my money without reasons and the casino refuses to communicate with me directly.

Shame on them.

The villains always wins.


let's wait until the end of this month to see what arguments they will bring or if they will remain silent, at some point they will have to say something, be patient they only have two options:

1- come and say you are innocent and give what you got

2 - come and say you're guilty and give you nothing

so be patient because they will have to show up and say one of these options
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April 03, 2022, 08:00:33 AM
#87
Another week has pass and radio silence from LTC casino, not official game provider statement shared.
No updates and not evidence against me provided, they are keeping my money without reasons and the casino refuses to communicate with me directly.

Shame on them.

The villains always wins.
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March 31, 2022, 02:10:14 PM
#86
Why LTC casino shares in my posts Felix statement which has nothing to do with me and is irrelevant to my case as it is also a different provider an dnot what really matters in this case which is WAZDAN statement?
I guess because Felix slots had a vulnerability that was only discovered after a thorough investigation. If I remember it correctly, Felix representatives didn't want to admit there were any issues with their games and only did it after an investigation showed that something weird was going on. LTC Gaming might be trying to draw a parallel between the two gaming providers thinking something similar might have happened to Wazdan as well.

The LTC Casino rep responded to my PM. They haven't sent any proof. They only wrote what Wazdan apparently told them:
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"We checked everything, the possibility to win jackpot is 1 to 1000000"
They claim the provider didn't send anything else.

This is a quote of my second PM I sent them a minute ago as a response to their PM:
So share that correspondence in the thread please so that the issue can be moved from point 0 and we can figure out who is telling the truth and who isn't. Post some proof. The OP has posted several emails from Wazdan claiming they gave you everything you requested. Can you show us what you received from Wazdan and what follow up questions you had?


The game provider has been clear in their email they have send their official statement so why the casino doesn't admit that?
They don't have to share their correspondence but at least their official statement  even if is not what they want to hear.
Just because someone cheated does mean now we are all cheater and players now know that the casino thinks is impossible you can win big to the point that anyone that will win a big amount will have to go through this hell!

So much fun! Not only their withdrawals limits are super low but u must wish the casino pays you and wait months before that and if happens.

As i said i have nothing to hide because i did not cheat and game provider and casino guru found nothing and please nobody can convince a casino that brags to have so much experience doesn't have someone professional to check on their side. In a month time ??

What disturbs me the most are the lies , because they do have this statement an if the game provider made one they would be accurate because one would think that they would take responsibilities if it wasn't accurate.

All i ask is transparency and you can't deny they are acting shady because they don't want to share the official statement of the game provider.

Thanks for sharing and get in contact with them really appreciated.

Let's see what excuse they come next.
Now the game provider wants a feedback  from the casino for their false info about their company.  


I don't know who's lying but i know is not me and to be honest why the game provider would lie? Or casino guru?

Let's see when and what LTC casino will come with this time , it's like a soap opera!
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March 31, 2022, 01:42:37 PM
#85
Why LTC casino shares in my posts Felix statement which has nothing to do with me and is irrelevant to my case as it is also a different provider an dnot what really matters in this case which is WAZDAN statement?
I guess because Felix slots had a vulnerability that was only discovered after a thorough investigation. If I remember it correctly, Felix representatives didn't want to admit there were any issues with their games and only did it after an investigation showed that something weird was going on. LTC Gaming might be trying to draw a parallel between the two gaming providers thinking something similar might have happened to Wazdan as well.

The LTC Casino rep responded to my PM. They haven't sent any proof. They only wrote what Wazdan apparently told them:
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"We checked everything, the possibility to win jackpot is 1 to 1000000"
They claim the provider didn't send anything else.

This is a quote of my second PM I sent them a minute ago as a response to their PM:
So share that correspondence in the thread please so that the issue can be moved from point 0 and we can figure out who is telling the truth and who isn't. Post some proof. The OP has posted several emails from Wazdan claiming they gave you everything you requested. Can you show us what you received from Wazdan and what follow up questions you had?
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March 31, 2022, 05:41:37 AM
#84
P.S. I kindly ask to use special thread for discussing this complaint (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ltc-casino-resolved-5389546). After the case you are welcome to publish your opinion even here but now there is a special place.

@LTC Casino, Since you asked to discuss it here. Let's move forward. Could you please confirm that you didn't get a response from the provider yet?


Not true. I told you many times that provider did not answer our questions.


According to you, Provider did not answer your questions!
But bambolina posted a screenshot which is this https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk
and it's clearly showing that the provider says they have given their official statement. So, What answers are you looking for from the provider?
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March 31, 2022, 04:48:16 AM
#83
The casino now must show the correspondence
I agree, and that's what I said in my previous post. It would be a good idea if they showed what Wazdan sent them and what further data they are requesting and talking about. I will PM their casino rep and see if they respond.

Why the game provider would say so?
I am not a psychologist. I read and interpret what is written in this thread and the way it's written. I can't read anyone's mind and understand what agenda or motives they have. 

The only way for them to prove their good faith is to share what the game provider has sent them.

They clearly saying the casino is lying and they said they send them a statement.
Why LTC casino shares in my posts Felix statement which has nothing to do with me and is irrelevant to my case as it is also a different provider an dnot what really matters in this case which is WAZDAN statement?

They send it last week so they had plenty of time.

If they want to be trusted they can simply show at least the statement sent by Wazdan, they are not sending it because it will show the integrity of the casino.
The casino is right on one thing, there is a lot of scammers , sadly in this instance is not me.


legendary
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March 31, 2022, 04:28:35 AM
#82
The casino now must show the correspondence
I agree, and that's what I said in my previous post. It would be a good idea if they showed what Wazdan sent them and what further data they are requesting and talking about. I will PM their casino rep and see if they respond.

Why the game provider would say so?
I am not a psychologist. I read and interpret what is written in this thread and the way it's written. I can't read anyone's mind and understand what agenda or motives they have. 
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March 31, 2022, 03:29:02 AM
#81
I was under the impression that Ltc casino said they had more questions for the game provider but here in LBc site they are stating that they only asked the probability of winning the jackpot.
am i really not understanding or they are playing a mind game?
You didn't understand what they said in the same way you don't understand anything I have been saying and instead you accuse me of making you look like a victim. If you are talking about this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWn), your understanding of what it says is completely wrong. LTC Casino didn't say that they only asked what the probability of winning the jackpot is. They wrote that Wazdan only sent them that piece of information, but they requested additional data. That's what the post says.

If you look at the second paragraph, you will see it's similar to what I told you in terms of being patient. If you have nothing to hide, that's what the investigation will hopefully show. Trying to pressurize them will likely not work and there is nothing anyone here can do to speed up that process.

Having said that, it would be a good thing if LTC Casino can make public at least parts of the emails where we can see that they requested additional data from the provider. @LTC Casino, can you do that?

Have a look at this  ,i have  received this this morning from Wazdan support team.

They are definitely better than the casino at reply and communicate.

https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk

The Game provider is now emailing a strong statement and your opinion is irrelevant , not free interpretation. I

The casino now must show the correspondence and by the way  i show them what the casino has written so spare me your preaching as it so clear what they are doing.

Why the game provider would say so?

The Casino reputation is now hanging on the game provider exchange of emails.

I  am now convinced that they are lying ,and the only reason to prove me wrong and the community now is to be transparent about it.


legendary
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March 31, 2022, 03:18:42 AM
#80
I was under the impression that Ltc casino said they had more questions for the game provider but here in LBc site they are stating that they only asked the probability of winning the jackpot.
am i really not understanding or they are playing a mind game?
You didn't understand what they said in the same way you don't understand anything I have been saying and instead you accuse me of making you look like a victim. If you are talking about this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWn), your understanding of what it says is completely wrong. LTC Casino didn't say that they only asked what the probability of winning the jackpot is. They wrote that Wazdan only sent them that piece of information, but they requested additional data. That's what the post says.

If you look at the second paragraph, you will see it's similar to what I told you in terms of being patient. If you have nothing to hide, that's what the investigation will hopefully show. Trying to pressurize them will likely not work and there is nothing anyone here can do to speed up that process.

Having said that, it would be a good thing if LTC Casino can make public at least parts of the emails where we can see that they requested additional data from the provider. @LTC Casino, can you do that?
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March 30, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
#79
can someone please read this response form LTc casino in lbc  forum?

I was under the impression that Ltc casino said they had more questions for the game provider but here in LBc site they are stating that they only asked the probability of winning the jackpot.
am i really not understanding or they are playing a mind game?

 Can a third party explain to me what LtC means with this  post?

Also why  i have to be treated like someone that scammed the casino with another provider if they do not have any proves against me?


Please read what LTC casino wrote and please explain if they are not being contradictory on their last post as now the game provider opinion means nothing at all but till last week  it was all they were waiting for.


https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWn

Anyone more clever than me can pls explain??

Thank you.

Ps this is the last email sent by the game provider

https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjT

the 28/03/2022
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March 30, 2022, 08:31:26 AM
#78
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you might want to share the link to your flag against ltc casino. also, as far as I know, flags cannot be deleted(please correct me if I am wrong), but the flag you created will only be activated once enough DT members(you'll need 3 DT members to support your flag) support it.



FLAG:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3408346   

i hope the site will solve the situation and i'll be happy to remove the flag if they do.
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March 30, 2022, 06:17:53 AM
#77
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you might want to share the link to your flag against ltc casino. also, as far as I know, flags cannot be deleted(please correct me if I am wrong), but the flag you created will only be activated once enough DT members(you'll need 3 DT members to support your flag) support it.
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March 30, 2022, 04:06:48 AM
#76
I have managed to open a flag aganist Ltc casino, i'll be happy to remove it once the casino comes out clean and pay the winnings or shares the game provider findings.

If anyone want to help me and warn other players in order to prevent situations like that i would really appreciate it.

The gambling community shouldn't let casinos run wild and act in such ways.

It has been over a month and without evidence they are keeping my money.

Not cool.

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March 29, 2022, 03:51:17 PM
#75
the provider insists that there was no malfunction during the specified rounds

This is when you should have payed the player.  You asked the provider to investigate, they investigated.  It's been over a month now.  If wazden hasn't found anything, you need to pay the player.  It's impossible to prove the player did not cheat, but if they did, I would expect that your casino wouldn't be the only site they decided to cheat on, and Wazden would have reports from other casinos if they didn't notice themselves.  The fact that most of your points and 'questions' for the provider are irrelevant make me think you're just looking for any excuse not to pay.

They asked also for second checks and nothing was found, yet the casino made up that the game provider didn't answers to some made up questions after a months of investigations!!

The game provider confirmed that the all it was asked was sent and they are done in their ends.
The casino is now simply lying and making excuses , and if they are not they can simply build they reputation now sharing the game provider findings.
They are not doing it because they know they should pay the winnings and it is clear they don't want to.

So far the big wins in this forums seem like shillings from people that work for the casino , everyone knows it!!

This is their moment to show to people that real winners will get paid, as if they are not is just another rogue casino with not license praying into innocent gamblers.

This casino give casino crypto a bad name.
See how the casino has stop replying but they were very acting when they were trying to get new players.

I hope nobody plays there till they sort this mess.
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March 29, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
#74
the provider insists that there was no malfunction during the specified rounds

This is when you should have payed the player.  You asked the provider to investigate, they investigated.  It's been over a month now.  If wazden hasn't found anything, you need to pay the player.  It's impossible to prove the player did not cheat, but if they did, I would expect that your casino wouldn't be the only site they decided to cheat on, and Wazden would have reports from other casinos if they didn't notice themselves.  The fact that most of your points and 'questions' for the provider are irrelevant make me think you're just looking for any excuse not to pay.
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March 29, 2022, 09:25:01 AM
#73

What i don't get is what this has to do with the winnings, i have used one or two chilies mostly and didn't really used the third one as thought was going to speed the game too much.


Players can choose whatever variance they want on Wazdan slots. It's just an additional feature for players.
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March 29, 2022, 09:04:00 AM
#72


I am not sure what is a volatility can u please explain to me what is this?
However i am glad you have responded.



Regarding variance, in short, it refers to "risk". Low-variance slots pay out more frequently but smaller wins. On the other hand, high-variance slot games are capable of massive wins, but of course, frequency is lower. Mid-variance slots are in-between. There are many more things related to variance, their types, etc.

In 2018, Wazdan introduced an option to choose variance on their slot titles (There are three options: low, mid & high). You can simply change variance by clicking on the variance icon. (3 chilli papers icon).

As I can see per your screenshot, it's set on medium variance (default one). So if you haven't changed it, you have played on medium variance.

Thank you!
i actually thought was the speed this chilies!!
Dear me...i am so tech helpless!!!
What i don't get is what this has to do with the winnings, i have used one or two chilies mostly and didn't really used the third one as thought was going to speed the game too much.
The casino is mentioning also auto-spins but i never used it as like to it without it.
Unfortunately they are now making things up as they dont want to pay since the game provider as stated they sent all they needed and the casino refuses to share their findings because they will prove to the gambling community they are just another unlicensed casino with not morals.
The funniest part and also most sad is that they call themselves the most fair crypto casino! As IF!!

Thanks for the explanation by the way, the casino dosent even bother to reply , too busy scamming people probably.

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March 29, 2022, 08:52:21 AM
#71


I am not sure what is a volatility can u please explain to me what is this?
However i am glad you have responded.



Regarding variance, in short, it refers to "risk". Low-variance slots pay out more frequently but smaller wins. On the other hand, high-variance slot games are capable of massive wins, but of course, frequency is lower. Mid-variance slots are in-between. There are many more things related to variance, their types, etc.

In 2018, Wazdan introduced an option to choose variance on their slot titles (There are three options: low, mid & high). You can simply change variance by clicking on the variance icon. (3 chilli papers icon).

As I can see per your screenshot, it's set on medium variance (default one). So if you haven't changed it, you have played on medium variance.
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March 29, 2022, 08:42:49 AM
#70
Hello, esteemed player and forum members.

At this time I can acknowledge receiving a response from the provider, however there was no information in the response provided other than the probability of winning the jackpot.

We are continuing to investigate and have resubmitted to the provider a number of questions that need to be answered. These include, among others, the following:

- Did the player change the volatility (the slot provides that option)
- If he did, at what points, is there no correlation between jackpots and changes in volatility.
- Whether there were pauses in the game to change volatility (we assume that the mechanical process of changing volatility involves interruptions of autospins function, accordingly, there must be pauses. If there were no pauses, it may indicate the use of specialized prohibited software.

This is only a number of questions, we can not publish others so as not to harm the investigation.

I think it's obvious to everyone that these questions are essential to the investigation.

As soon as we get the answers and complete the investigation, I will report the results immediately.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

This is disgraceful. How about you pay the man his money and issue them an apology? You seem to be making it up as you go.
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