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Topic: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us? - page 9. (Read 1812 times)

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Of course, all countries have made their best efforts to get their citizens out of poverty, but all of these efforts will certainly not be 100% successful and poverty is still very high. This is what makes us think rationally. Too often blaming the state is a waste of time. keep trying our best so that we and our families are not poor.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.


The population is increasing and government is unable to provide the jobs to all of them. Food is scare therefore its cost is increasing regularly so I think that government should take such step to make the condition of country better for living.

Government cannot keep eye on everyone and there are some people who just pretend that they are poor just to accumulate the things which government provides to the poor people. One mistake that government make is that they cannot reduces the price of things, i can understand that the country is facing difficulties in order to complete the necessaries of each and every individuals but by increasing cost the poor man only faces trouble, there is no benefit of increasing price for a country.

The poverty is enhances due to the increasing population so government should keep notice on increasing population and then do some proper work to increase the commodities that can subsequently distributed to everyone.
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Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
Government can't do anything about poverty you yourself have to think about eradicating  it and solve it . In today's tough time where there is immense financial burden on everyone you have to work out your expenses , your earnings and spending.
Government can do 0.1% for your ease rest Is your problem.
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Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
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The government is obliged to provide the means to eradicate poverty but its in the hands of the people if they will do their part as citizens of the government which will help them to be one step away from poverty. So I believe everything still relies from the decision of the citizens. Otherwise, if they chose not to move and not doing any job that will provide them source of income, they will never get rid of poverty and will never experience changes in their lives.
The government can only oblige to eradicate poverty but they can not do it alone, they still need the collaboration of international aid agencies and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) to provide assistance that will eradicate poverty. Therefore people also need to create some that will increase job availability.

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The government is obliged to provide the means to eradicate poverty but its in the hands of the people if they will do their part as citizens of the government which will help them to be one step away from poverty. So I believe everything still relies from the decision of the citizens. Otherwise, if they chose not to move and not doing any job that will provide them source of income, they will never get rid of poverty and will never experience changes in their lives.
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The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.

I concur with you that the government cannot eradicate poverty, but it can take some actions to lower the rate of poverty in the nation. I don't think many people will take their lives seriously if the government entirely eliminates poverty by providing for individuals' needs. Since the government can only support us through better economic conditions,standard education, good hospitals etc.it is now up to us to end poverty by working hard and find thing reasonable doing for survival.
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In my opinion, poverty occurs apart from the conflict between Ukraine and Russia because it has contributed to rising gas prices which have resulted in rising prices of basic commodities.  Poverty cannot be solved only by the efforts of one party, be it the government or the people. Collaborative and synergistic efforts from both parties are needed to achieve the goal of overcoming poverty.

Governments have an important role to play in expanding access to the resources and services needed to overcome poverty, such as access to education, health, clean water, sanitation, and decent jobs.  However, the people also have an important role in reducing poverty in society.

As people, we can contribute by helping people in need, such as providing financial support or taking part in volunteer programs that help reduce poverty and improve the social and economic conditions of society.  In addition, we can strengthen our own capacity by increasing education, skills and work experience to increase job opportunities and increase personal economic well-being.

In overcoming poverty, the roles of the people and the government are interrelated and mutually reinforcing one another.  By working together and contributing in our respective capacities, we can achieve the goals of overcoming poverty and improving the social and economic conditions of society as a whole.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
To sum it up, it has to be said that the war between Russia and Ukraine is largely responsible for the consequences of the entire world economy. However, it will also not be correct to blame this war only for the worse economic condition of another country. In many cases, those who are in the government management of that country can also be responsible because of their corruption system. And in order to remove this predicament, it is very necessary to keep the government management correct and free from corruption, as well as to play the effective role of the citizens.
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Actually I don't fully agree with your opinion because basically the government also has a responsibility to improve the economic standard of its citizens. While governments may never reach every individual, they have played an important role in reducing the percentage of economic problems to the lowest status in society.

The government's task is a complex task to regulate everything in such a way that it reaches a good level, but it will greatly depend on how strong the country's economy is. Don't compare developed and developing countries with third world countries in the process, but look at it case by case. However, individual independence and good human resources will help reduce the percentage of poverty.
Of course you don't have to completely agree with some of the ideas I want to convey, because as far as I know we are used to not being completely dependent on government policies. Even in terms of regulations, the government has the responsibility to provide guarantees for the welfare of its people. My question is how far can the government reach all levels of society? Did you know that most countries are currently experiencing almost the same problem, inflation and recession are problems facing the world, including the OP's country, you and me, depending on varying degrees of severity.

What can we do and what solutions are offered by the government? I believe that each country has its own way of managing this problem and the point is to find a solution to the problem at hand. The role of the individual is also very important to raise awareness of each other in finding solutions. If the presence of the government cannot fully cover basic needs, you can find solutions to meet these needs. One way might be to apply the following steps?

  • Utilizing vacant land to plant basic needs for life support, such as rice, vegetables or adapted to staple foods in their respective countries.
  • Take advantage of existing resources to meet all needs, even if the scope is small, at least for each individual led in the household.
  • Look for a special formula to get out of the problem of inflation and recession, don't think too far because the most important thing is the availability of opportunities for each individual's life.

Basically all problems have a solution to be solved, even though the scope is small or different, the presence of each individual is also seen as important to prevent the problem from becoming more complicated and the government will also take its role in solving this problem. If everyone is moving and according to their respective abilities, then I'm sure this problem will be resolved slowly. Developed countries and developing countries are indeed very different when viewed, but there are patterns that can be applied where the point is to find solutions and be able to overcome them.
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IMO governments are usually the cause of poverty because they want to control everything and on that road to total control there are impossible choices to be made.

An example of such control was the US covid lockdown, that turned into a chain of bankruptcies, so the government stepped in to fix it by printing money, which increased inflation and weakened the dollar. Now they want to fix that mistake by increasing rates, but this cannot possibly work because rate hikes work only when people are scared of it. When you're in deep shit and people see it, they aren't scared, they expect you to pivot soon, so they won't suddenly start hoarding the dollar because you could turn on them at any moment, but if they keep spending you, the government are in trouble. At this point the US FED is compromised, no matter what happens.
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To be sincere have you seen any Government solve any situation, what they do is make it worse and create more problems, Poverty is a very good tool in the hands of the Government to keep people under control, just look at the amount they claimed they have spent to eradicate poverty and after spending this ridiculous amount, Poverty keeps increasing. The thing is that we have more dump voters than sensible voters that keep voting for this set of politicians. Just look at France, they voted for Macron, he came to power then stab them in the back to keep his friends in high places happy, can you imagine, his country is burning but decided to go to China just to make business people in this country happy. Government can solve poverty if they want, but to be rich is in the hands of individuals
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Using China as an example, they're one of the world must advance nation and that's because majority of them are technology minded, they constantly invent things that can be used to make life easier and they have the world best economy with lot of them been millionaires due to their involvement in technology.
I think this is Japan. They're like living advance to the most nations like 10 years afar. And their government is playing a huge role for the policies that they do and how they've made every citizen there to be dedicated to their work.

So giving Japan as an example, look at the mindset of most people there. They don't even want to get married and just want to focus on their jobs. When we say focus, they really are focused on it and dedicated up to the point that they only get a single job and company and stays there until they get old.

Looking at the poverty rate there isn't that much and they're making laws like in every or some prefecture where they'll be giving money just for the people to move there and live there for certain period of time to help them economically and that's how the government intervenes with people's lives there.
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It's useless to hope that the government is fully present to help each individual, because there are many problems that they have to deal with to ensure the continuity of a country. If people don't have a better lifestyle and don't have a way to get out of the economic gap, then the chaos will increasingly bring them to the stage of distress, moreover recession and inflation will continue to increase from time to time.
Actually I don't fully agree with your opinion because basically the government also has a responsibility to improve the economic standard of its citizens. While governments may never reach every individual, they have played an important role in reducing the percentage of economic problems to the lowest status in society.

The government's task is a complex task to regulate everything in such a way that it reaches a good level, but it will greatly depend on how strong the country's economy is. Don't compare developed and developing countries with third world countries in the process, but look at it case by case. However, individual independence and good human resources will help reduce the percentage of poverty.
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The government pretty much has the allocation and the resources to. But corruption and greed often take over and fucks with what is otherwise a good plan. For instance, it is a universal fact that a high quality education is something that would almost equate to success in the future, and there are miltiple avenues that the government can takento improve upon the current education system and give even the marginalized community to fight against the modernized world, yet as it stands today countries that are supposed to be rich are still poor, with very low state of education systems.

So yes the government plays a larger role in all of this than we expect, we were iust conditioned to think that the government has nothing to do eith our success when in fact, from the moment we are born in this world we are being controlled by the invisible hand of the Aristocrats.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Do you know how many people live in your country of residence? then try to calculate whether the government's presence can reach all citizens to solve the problem of economic inequality individually. Setting the price of basic needs is their responsibility and the government must have a way to solve it and the state has regulations stipulated in the law to regulate basic prices in the market, the government under the power of the president has the responsibility to maintain continuity of basic commodities on the market through related agencies . Inflation and recession cause a lot of problems, making it difficult for most countries to find a solution formula, so that they will affect basic needs and other needs.

It's useless to hope that the government is fully present to help each individual, because there are many problems that they have to deal with to ensure the continuity of a country. If people don't have a better lifestyle and don't have a way to get out of the economic gap, then the chaos will increasingly bring them to the stage of distress, moreover recession and inflation will continue to increase from time to time.
legendary
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Once again, I want to ask everyone a question:
- What is your confidence or expectations based on that the state is OBLIGED to guarantee a comfortable life for everyone?
- where do you think the state takes money for the formation of social benefits?
- what does your position look like on the other side of the state - its citizens and their obligations - taxes, respect for the law, etc. ?

And let me remind you again - "the state does not have its own money, the state only has money in the form of taxes that it receives from citizens and businesses." And this means that all citizens of the country themselves form the level of well-being in the country, and it is the citizens who, with their taxes, help to ensure a comfortable life for other citizens who cannot independently provide for themselves at an acceptable level. This is an axiom, this is how any state works!
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Review the shrimp laws they made and believe that all of them are for the benefit of certain party groups that occupy their respective positions. The demonstrations seemed as if they had never been heard of and most of what they proposed was not implemented properly. Only false promises that the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain in poverty. Raising food prices, high taxes but the proceeds go into the pockets of officials. That is the picture in any country, if we don't have an income sector, we will still be oppressed, the jobs they promised will not really be fulfilled. The democratic state is only a mask for the oligarchs to carry out their goals.
What you said above is the reality of certain countries, the oligarchs only act on behalf of the people to carry out their strategy, so don't expect promises from the government to eradicate poverty but instead they emphasize paying taxes for reasons of infrastructure development and the interests of the people, instead of actually that they use tax money for their interests and we have been oppressed from tax costs. I'm fed up with seeing their actions that actually don't care about the level of poverty increasing, even many officials commit corruption when the people's economic conditions are worst. so don't expect government promises because so far nothing has materialized for the welfare of the people, it's better to focus on your current job even though you are paid below the minimum but it is enough for daily needs.
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Review the shrimp laws they made and believe that all of them are for the benefit of certain party groups that occupy their respective positions. The demonstrations seemed as if they had never been heard of and most of what they proposed was not implemented properly. Only false promises that the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain in poverty. Raising food prices, high taxes but the proceeds go into the pockets of officials. That is the picture in any country, if we don't have an income sector, we will still be oppressed, the jobs they promised will not really be fulfilled. The democratic state is only a mask for the oligarchs to carry out their goals.
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The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.
Poverty will always exist in every country, even countries that are said to be the most developed countries, they can only reduce the poverty rate from the average number of poor people with services and facilities as you say. Each country has a minimum income for its citizens, which can be said that the standardization of poverty in each country is different so it would be quite difficult to say that poverty can be eliminated in various ways.
For example, in your country, people who are said to be poor are people whose income is below $500 in one month, and in my country, people who are said to be poor are those who have incomes below $300.
Yes, basically it is ourselves who are able to change poverty, but if the opportunity and development of your abilities are not facilitated by the government it will be quite difficult for some people to make progress, as an example in my country where there are lots of young people who are smart and successful in making products. feasible for the benefit of the community but always being hit by the government and banning the circulation of products made by youth, I mean it is not easy if there is no support from the government.
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