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July 01, 2023, 12:42:09 AM
I was surprised to see ESPN reporting that Draymond Green signed a 4 year 100 million dollar deal to stay with the Warriors. I can’t imagine that he’ll still be starting for them in four years given his drop off over the last two seasons but I guess he’s earned that money for helping them get the rings they have. Next year with CP3 will be interesting.
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June 30, 2023, 11:49:51 PM
Kyrie Irving stays with the Dallas Mavericks with a whopping contract of $126M - 3 years or so.

Report: Kyrie Irving staying with Mavericks for $126 million over 3 years

Okay then, that settles for any rumor that has been out for Irving. He'll stay where he are right now and that's a good amount for him to stay. I just wish that he'll get to play with a good chemistry this time around with Luka since last season didn't really look impressive at all.

Good for me, the Dallas Mavericks has taken a big risk to give him that kind of money and in 3 years?

We've seen it already that I must say that Luka and Kyrie doesn't have the chemistry like a Lebron and Kyrie back in their Cleveland days (even that time there are rurmors about their relationship).

So for sure NBA pundits are going to monitor this situation, yes Luka needed another player, but not as ball hog as Kyrie.

This is a complete mark Cuban move.  Luka and kyrie are like oil and water on the court.  It doesn't take but watch 2 quarters to see that's not the combo you want on the floor.  Kyrie is insane with his ball skills but 2 alphas never work.  Luka needs a pippen.  Kyrie isn't a pippen he is trying to be another jordan.
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June 30, 2023, 11:18:02 PM
Reports says Gabe Vincent joining the Lakers,

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Free agent guard Gabe Vincent is expected to join the Los Angeles Lakers on a three-year, $33 million deal, per The Athletic’s Shams Charania.

https://www.nba.com/news/gabe-vincent-2023-free-agency

So this is a great news for the Lakers and Lebron as he will have a good wingman and a 3 point shooter. Plus Gabe has one of the best seasons so far last year with the Heat.

But as the same time, they let go of Dennis as he moves to Toronto. Because Fred VanVleet signing a three-year, $130 million max contract with the Houston Rockets.
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June 30, 2023, 08:21:05 PM
Kyrie Irving stays with the Dallas Mavericks with a whopping contract of $126M - 3 years or so.

Report: Kyrie Irving staying with Mavericks for $126 million over 3 years

Okay then, that settles for any rumor that has been out for Irving. He'll stay where he are right now and that's a good amount for him to stay. I just wish that he'll get to play with a good chemistry this time around with Luka since last season didn't really look impressive at all.

Good for me, the Dallas Mavericks has taken a big risk to give him that kind of money and in 3 years?

We've seen it already that I must say that Luka and Kyrie doesn't have the chemistry like a Lebron and Kyrie back in their Cleveland days (even that time there are rurmors about their relationship).

So for sure NBA pundits are going to monitor this situation, yes Luka needed another player, but not as ball hog as Kyrie.
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June 30, 2023, 06:41:49 PM
Kyrie Irving stays with the Dallas Mavericks with a whopping contract of $126M - 3 years or so.

Report: Kyrie Irving staying with Mavericks for $126 million over 3 years

Okay then, that settles for any rumor that has been out for Irving. He'll stay where he are right now and that's a good amount for him to stay. I just wish that he'll get to play with a good chemistry this time around with Luka since last season didn't really look impressive at all.
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June 30, 2023, 06:18:35 PM
11.5 PPG, 3.4 APG, 4.1 TRB, %35 3FG, %48 FG and on less than 10 shots, so doesn't require the ball all the time either. I guess that's not really too bad, he started 31 games and played in 80 games of a denver team that won the ring. I am not saying he is going to be a beast player suddenly, but he was definitely a decent chunk of help without a doubt. He was one of those "bench" guys you weren't sure if he was bench or not, plus he is versatile so whoever missed a chance, he was there for SG-SF-PF all at the same time when someone missed games. I am guessing that he is going to be worth that much at the very least, could have worth a lot more if teams had salary space but many do not have it these days, so he got best he could get.
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June 30, 2023, 05:52:30 PM
Did you guys see the news for Bruce Brown JR? He just signed with the Indiana Pacers. Gonna be huge mils contract has been in the sign and this is why we usually see a player going off with their former team just after the championship.
Who would not agree with this deal?
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ESPN reporting with
@malikaandrews
: Free agent Bruce Brown has agreed on a two-year, $45M deal with the Indiana Pacers, his agents Ty Sullivan and Steven Heumann of
@CAASports
 tell ESPN. Denver — limited in what it could pay — loses a key piece to its repeat hopes.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674905312967442432?s=20
$45M in two years, that's a star contract. He did great on his last run with the Denver Nuggets and I think he deserves it. Yes, they lost a big piece but it gives the opportunity for other players to feel the success of their hard work by receiving a great deal of a contract. I guess it's okay for the Nuggets team. They could still win a championship if they badly want a back-to-back. Do remember, Jamal Murray just got back and yet that happened. If their chemistry strengthens again, they will be more powerful.
Thanks, that's more detailed news than what I've seen. Yeah, Bruce should take that contract and that's gonna be an offer that no one can decline. And going there will make him some sort of superstar I guess or a more important player than the current roster that it has got.

^ That’s a big blow to the Nuggets.
Yeah, surprising news as many would have thought that this team will be stronger than before and bonds would be made. After all, this is NBA and it's all about business and taking the best offers that they can take after getting out of their primes.
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June 30, 2023, 05:46:42 PM
^ That’s a big blow to the Nuggets. He anchored their bench and in a position where they struggle. I think if Denver really wants to repeat and get themselves in the dynasty conversation for real, they’re going to need to pick up a good shooting guard. Beal would’ve been the best prospect but he’s gone to Phoenix. Maybe they can try to get Anthony Edwards or something.
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June 30, 2023, 05:41:05 PM
Did you guys see the news for Bruce Brown JR? He just signed with the Indiana Pacers. Gonna be huge mils contract has been in the sign and this is why we usually see a player going off with their former team just after the championship.
Who would not agree with this deal?
I don't think Harden is the right fit in Miami.  Everyone in Miami plays a certain way and it's very unselfish.  James can ball but he tends to disclose half of his team when he is out there.  He isn't a "next man up" type of guy or player.  Miami needs in the trenches people who will do anything for theor team type of players and not care about stats.
Hmm, that might be true. Harden is not the type to play as hard as the Miami Heat when it comes to defense. But maybe that's what they need, someone who is focused on offense because actually in the last series, it was the missing piece of their roster especially when Herro was injured. And they have Bam Adebayo who plays a lot like Joel Embiid, can spot up, post up, and catch the ball mid-air. Harden likes to play with big men and he can easily create chemistry with them. Remember Capela and Embiid.
Plus, I think it is Miami Heat on where he will land because that team was all ready for Dame so they must've prepared a trading block to take another big chess piece.
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June 30, 2023, 05:39:42 PM
James Harden trade destinations: Clippers lead the pack, but Knicks, Heat, Celtics and Bucks loom
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-trade-destinations-clippers-lead-the-pack-but-knicks-heat-celtics-and-bucks-loom/
Los Angeles Clippers
Miami Heat
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks

Where do you think James Harden will land?
I am taking the New York Knicks out of the picture. They are already strong with Brunson around, they don't want to confuse things on the point guard position.
Boston Celtics too. I don't think they need more guards. Malcolm Brogdon did too much for them and I doubt they will trade him. He is one of their gem whenever Tatum and Brown takes their rest.
Milwaukee Bucks too. They have Jrue Holiday there and luxury tax will be pouring if they consider it.

I think the best spot for him is either LA Clippers or Miami Heat. If there's a betting line for this I'd pick the two but if only one choice will be provided I think Miami Heat will be his landing point. Remember, they are making ready to take Damian Lillard if ever the Trail Blazers will trade him, well Harden is not that far from Dame.

James Harden is the biggest name in the trading block now. The odds would favor the LA Clippers because it is the team that Harden personally wanted to play. Personally, I am losing some hope in Kawhi Leonard's condition to become healthy for a full season or the playoffs.

But I will not count out the other teams, even those teams that are not on the favorable list. Many teams are willing to make adjustments for Harden. I am also hoping Harden will consider playing with Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.

Hardens' destination is still questionable, depending on which team will accept his demand. But I also agree that if given
a chance, we might see him pairing with Butler and Bam.

Heat might offer something to acquired Harden, might be a good addition if he will adapt to the system, I see him doing that when he played
for the Nets, he managed to adjust for KD and Kyrie, very possible that he can do it again and adjust for Bam and Jimmy.
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June 30, 2023, 05:20:54 PM
Did you guys see the news for Bruce Brown JR? He just signed with the Indiana Pacers. Gonna be huge mils contract has been in the sign and this is why we usually see a player going off with their former team just after the championship.
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June 30, 2023, 05:02:12 PM
James Harden trade destinations: Clippers lead the pack, but Knicks, Heat, Celtics and Bucks loom
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-trade-destinations-clippers-lead-the-pack-but-knicks-heat-celtics-and-bucks-loom/
Los Angeles Clippers
Miami Heat
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks

Where do you think James Harden will land?
I am taking the New York Knicks out of the picture. They are already strong with Brunson around, they don't want to confuse things on the point guard position.
Boston Celtics too. I don't think they need more guards. Malcolm Brogdon did too much for them and I doubt they will trade him. He is one of their gem whenever Tatum and Brown takes their rest.
Milwaukee Bucks too. They have Jrue Holiday there and luxury tax will be pouring if they consider it.

I think the best spot for him is either LA Clippers or Miami Heat. If there's a betting line for this I'd pick the two but if only one choice will be provided I think Miami Heat will be his landing point. Remember, they are making ready to take Damian Lillard if ever the Trail Blazers will trade him, well Harden is not that far from Dame.

James Harden is the biggest name in the trading block now. The odds would favor the LA Clippers because it is the team that Harden personally wanted to play. Personally, I am losing some hope in Kawhi Leonard's condition to become healthy for a full season or the playoffs.

But I will not count out the other teams, even those teams that are not on the favorable list. Many teams are willing to make adjustments for Harden. I am also hoping Harden will consider playing with Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.

I'd like to see Harden play with Butler and see how he's going to fit with the roster, because I also want to see the Heat compete in the Finals again. I guess Harden's addition to the team could bring more positive outcome than the other way around. I don't have any update with the Lillard trade that could also potentially land him with the Heat, but either of the 2 is a plus for the Heat. It would be crazy IF both Harden and Lillard go to Miami lol but I doubt it wouldn't happen as the Heat may not have enough pieces to make a trade and try to acquire both superstars.
So, again either Lillard or Harden is a plus for the Heat.


I don't think Harden is the right fit in Miami.  Everyone in Miami plays a certain way and it's very unselfish.  James can ball but he tends to disclose half of his team when he is out there.  He isn't a "next man up" type of guy or player.  Miami needs in the trenches people who will do anything for theor team type of players and not care about stats.

Yeah i agree that he wouldnt be a great fit for Miami aswell. Harden is really bad at defence and Miami was one of the best in the league in it and with Harden they will be weaker in defence. Only good thing is his offence that can maybe make a difference. Miami needs a good player on both sides to improve their team
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June 30, 2023, 04:59:08 PM
James Harden trade destinations: Clippers lead the pack, but Knicks, Heat, Celtics and Bucks loom
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-trade-destinations-clippers-lead-the-pack-but-knicks-heat-celtics-and-bucks-loom/
Los Angeles Clippers
Miami Heat
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks

Where do you think James Harden will land?
I am taking the New York Knicks out of the picture. They are already strong with Brunson around, they don't want to confuse things on the point guard position.
Boston Celtics too. I don't think they need more guards. Malcolm Brogdon did too much for them and I doubt they will trade him. He is one of their gem whenever Tatum and Brown takes their rest.
Milwaukee Bucks too. They have Jrue Holiday there and luxury tax will be pouring if they consider it.

I think the best spot for him is either LA Clippers or Miami Heat. If there's a betting line for this I'd pick the two but if only one choice will be provided I think Miami Heat will be his landing point. Remember, they are making ready to take Damian Lillard if ever the Trail Blazers will trade him, well Harden is not that far from Dame.

James Harden is the biggest name in the trading block now. The odds would favor the LA Clippers because it is the team that Harden personally wanted to play. Personally, I am losing some hope in Kawhi Leonard's condition to become healthy for a full season or the playoffs.

But I will not count out the other teams, even those teams that are not on the favorable list. Many teams are willing to make adjustments for Harden. I am also hoping Harden will consider playing with Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.

I'd like to see Harden play with Butler and see how he's going to fit with the roster, because I also want to see the Heat compete in the Finals again. I guess Harden's addition to the team could bring more positive outcome than the other way around. I don't have any update with the Lillard trade that could also potentially land him with the Heat, but either of the 2 is a plus for the Heat. It would be crazy IF both Harden and Lillard go to Miami lol but I doubt it wouldn't happen as the Heat may not have enough pieces to make a trade and try to acquire both superstars.
So, again either Lillard or Harden is a plus for the Heat.


I don't think Harden is the right fit in Miami.  Everyone in Miami plays a certain way and it's very unselfish.  James can ball but he tends to disclose half of his team when he is out there.  He isn't a "next man up" type of guy or player.  Miami needs in the trenches people who will do anything for theor team type of players and not care about stats.
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June 30, 2023, 03:48:25 PM
James Harden trade destinations: Clippers lead the pack, but Knicks, Heat, Celtics and Bucks loom
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-trade-destinations-clippers-lead-the-pack-but-knicks-heat-celtics-and-bucks-loom/
Los Angeles Clippers
Miami Heat
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks

Where do you think James Harden will land?
I am taking the New York Knicks out of the picture. They are already strong with Brunson around, they don't want to confuse things on the point guard position.
Boston Celtics too. I don't think they need more guards. Malcolm Brogdon did too much for them and I doubt they will trade him. He is one of their gem whenever Tatum and Brown takes their rest.
Milwaukee Bucks too. They have Jrue Holiday there and luxury tax will be pouring if they consider it.

I think the best spot for him is either LA Clippers or Miami Heat. If there's a betting line for this I'd pick the two but if only one choice will be provided I think Miami Heat will be his landing point. Remember, they are making ready to take Damian Lillard if ever the Trail Blazers will trade him, well Harden is not that far from Dame.

James Harden is the biggest name in the trading block now. The odds would favor the LA Clippers because it is the team that Harden personally wanted to play. Personally, I am losing some hope in Kawhi Leonard's condition to become healthy for a full season or the playoffs.

But I will not count out the other teams, even those teams that are not on the favorable list. Many teams are willing to make adjustments for Harden. I am also hoping Harden will consider playing with Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.

I'd like to see Harden play with Butler and see how he's going to fit with the roster, because I also want to see the Heat compete in the Finals again. I guess Harden's addition to the team could bring more positive outcome than the other way around. I don't have any update with the Lillard trade that could also potentially land him with the Heat, but either of the 2 is a plus for the Heat. It would be crazy IF both Harden and Lillard go to Miami lol but I doubt it wouldn't happen as the Heat may not have enough pieces to make a trade and try to acquire both superstars.
So, again either Lillard or Harden is a plus for the Heat.
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June 30, 2023, 03:16:27 PM
James Harden trade destinations: Clippers lead the pack, but Knicks, Heat, Celtics and Bucks loom
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-trade-destinations-clippers-lead-the-pack-but-knicks-heat-celtics-and-bucks-loom/
Los Angeles Clippers
Miami Heat
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks

Where do you think James Harden will land?
I am taking the New York Knicks out of the picture. They are already strong with Brunson around, they don't want to confuse things on the point guard position.
Boston Celtics too. I don't think they need more guards. Malcolm Brogdon did too much for them and I doubt they will trade him. He is one of their gem whenever Tatum and Brown takes their rest.
Milwaukee Bucks too. They have Jrue Holiday there and luxury tax will be pouring if they consider it.

I think the best spot for him is either LA Clippers or Miami Heat. If there's a betting line for this I'd pick the two but if only one choice will be provided I think Miami Heat will be his landing point. Remember, they are making ready to take Damian Lillard if ever the Trail Blazers will trade him, well Harden is not that far from Dame.

James Harden is the biggest name in the trading block now. The odds would favor the LA Clippers because it is the team that Harden personally wanted to play. Personally, I am losing some hope in Kawhi Leonard's condition to become healthy for a full season or the playoffs.

But I will not count out the other teams, even those teams that are not on the favorable list. Many teams are willing to make adjustments for Harden. I am also hoping Harden will consider playing with Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.
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June 30, 2023, 02:07:21 PM

The good thing is that it's not difficult to find players willing to play for the Warriors at a lower contract, as the team has a reputation for developing players through their strong program.
You make a valid point, as many role players who have played with the Warriors have shown significant improvement. The team's system is excellent, serving as a strong training ground for these players.

Consequently, their value tends to increase when their contracts expire and they choose not to re-sign with the Warriors. It remains crucial for the Warriors to retain their core group of players. The addition of CP3 is a major boost, assuming he remains free from injuries.

Exactly, they can use Warriors as a good training ground and once they already adopt the system,

They choose not to re-sign the contract and take a much better offer, I think it's a practical way if you want to boost your
career, with a warrior tag under your name and if you are lucky to be part of a champion team it will surely give you
the chance to make good amount of money.
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June 30, 2023, 01:32:41 PM
The Warriors know now significant Green is to the team, and that's why it was reported that they will do everything in their power to bring him back. So it's really up to Draymond if he wanted to be a Warrior until he retires, or chooses to go with Lebron and the Lakers (as this is the rumor).
They also lost Lamb at at Ty Jerome as they will not sign these two role players. So it's going to be a complete overhaul for the Warriors next season specially if Green is no longer around. So it's going to be interesting once the free agency officially opens.
I really hope they make sure not to lose Draymond. It's a significant salary that the Warriors will have to allocate, considering that four players, namely Curry, Thompson, CP3, and Green, are high-paid players. If they haven't exceeded the salary cap, then it might be manageable. However, they may need to sacrifice some of their role players.
The good thing is that it's not difficult to find players willing to play for the Warriors at a lower contract, as the team has a reputation for developing players through their strong program.
It's kind of easy putting ayers around talent lime steph and klay.  Rookies and role players basically are unguarded the entire game as other teams have to double the splash brothers.  I get your point though with players like that it's easy to find players willing to play for the minimum knowing they will be on a winning team.

I also agree. Because it is not absolutely unusual for players to join teams that have really great players. Even when they are not going to get paid as well as they might want. But that is a trade-off that the players should understand. They are just basically trading money for a winning team or a little worse team for Money. So, I don’t think it is going to be a big problem for them to find players who would want to join the team for a little less salary.

Green has become really important for the Warriors. I absolutely agree that it is going to be a bad move for them if they actually lose him. They will have to make sure that he stays in the team and also they will have to make sure that they make all the plans by keeping him in the team.

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June 30, 2023, 10:13:52 AM
Did Green already have his demand and play with the Warriors again? I just want to know because the last time I've read about his status, he's still in the free agency. Although I'm still positive that he will be back with the Warriors sometime during the summer as the Warriors will definitely need his IQ especially in the defense plus they now have CP3 that will help them have a window. And of course, there's Looney who has been playing much impressive last season.

As far as I know, Green is still a free agent, and there is no new information about which team he will play for next season. There have been rumors earlier that he would prefer to stay with the Warriors and that the Warriors' management wants him back on the team as well. The problem is that Green wants a new $100 million contract, and I guess that could be the reason why Green and the Warriors can't come to terms with each other.
By the way, there was also a rumor that Green and his agent are very open to meeting with other teams.
If the Warriors decide not to pursue him, I'm confident Green is not worried about his future, as there are other teams who are interested in him. It's no surprise that many teams would be interested in a player who has played a crucial role in bringing multiple championships to the Warriors franchise. Perhaps the Warriors will realize the significance of Green as a key piece to their success once they face struggles again in the upcoming season.

The Warriors know now significant Green is to the team, and that's why it was reported that they will do everything in their power to bring him back. So it's really up to Draymond if he wanted to be a Warrior until he retires, or chooses to go with Lebron and the Lakers (as this is the rumor).

They also lost Lamb at at Ty Jerome as they will not sign these two role players. So it's going to be a complete overhaul for the Warriors next season specially if Green is no longer around. So it's going to be interesting once the free agency officially opens.

I really hope they make sure not to lose Draymond. It's a significant salary that the Warriors will have to allocate, considering that four players, namely Curry, Thompson, CP3, and Green, are high-paid players. If they haven't exceeded the salary cap, then it might be manageable. However, they may need to sacrifice some of their role players.

The good thing is that it's not difficult to find players willing to play for the Warriors at a lower contract, as the team has a reputation for developing players through their strong program.

It's kind of easy putting ayers around talent lime steph and klay.  Rookies and role players basically are unguarded the entire game as other teams have to double the splash brothers.  I get your point though with players like that it's easy to find players willing to play for the minimum knowing they will be on a winning team.
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June 30, 2023, 10:03:19 AM
It's been a few days since I've been analyzing the negotiations/trades that are happening with several NBA teams, especially the last draft.

Wemby is one of the most commented and discussed player nowdays.
I even believe there is a hype.

I clearly remember the Holmgren's injury at the beginning of the last season

Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama are similar players, they are tall, they have good ball handling, they can shoot, they are fast players and they are also skinny and maybe even fragile compared to other NBA players.

Something that worries me is Wemby's body.
Guys, do you believe, Wemby could get injured soon because of his skinny body size?

Nowadays injuries are quite common in the NBA especially during a rookie's season. The question is who will dominant this season and who won't get injuries?
Also there is a significant ongoing debate about who will claim the title of Rookie of the Year (ROTY) considering that Chet Holmgren will also be entering his first NBA season!

I'll pick Chet Holmgren. How about you guys?

Aside from Chet and Wemby, there are others as well that can be the ROTY and that is very possible because their build aren't as fragile as the aforementioned players and they can be agile just like what Banchero did in the last season. But who knows who will claim that title, but if we will choose from Chet or Wemby, I'll be with the latter.
What happen to Chet was really a freak accident, he was still running after that rebound and never thought that it will be a season ending for him during that exhibition match. Unfortunately, what really happens is really unusual for him.

Hopefully Chet is 100% fine and has recovered already. So it will be a great matchup for the ROTY next season as Chet is eligible to be a candidate as he was not able to play last season.

So it's hard to see what will happen to Wemby, but the same case, we can only hope that he can play so that we can appreciate how good this young kid is and not just hype.
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The good thing is that it's not difficult to find players willing to play for the Warriors at a lower contract, as the team has a reputation for developing players through their strong program.
You make a valid point, as many role players who have played with the Warriors have shown significant improvement. The team's system is excellent, serving as a strong training ground for these players.

Consequently, their value tends to increase when their contracts expire and they choose not to re-sign with the Warriors. It remains crucial for the Warriors to retain their core group of players. The addition of CP3 is a major boost, assuming he remains free from injuries.
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