Topic: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border - page 22. (Read 51960 times)

It is almost evident now that there will be no definitive results from the investigations (if at all). Some material witnesses are already missing...

Making any strong statements without investigation doesn't make any sense, and side of "winners" doesn't matter here. Unlike propaganda warriors (like 247crypto & his western counterparts) I'd prefer to wait for the results of the investigation.

As Balthazar posted earlier, most of the non-British Europeans think that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were behind this attack.

Seems you are losing the propaganda war at the moment.

And about this Ukrainian x Russian thing, by looking deeply into History we get the Slavs Gran-Duchy of Moscow against the Slavs of the Kingdom of Kiev; in other words, whatever those guys are doing there is called fratricide, taken Russians and Ukrainians are based upon the very same people.

I strongly disagree with you on this subject. History is a kind of collective memory, a part of a hive mind of a society, even though the individual actors are long dead. Those who forget history are cursed to repeat it.

Not understanding the history will also lead to wrong measure being taken now. Case in point, Novorossia, where the root of the current conflict is in 1917, when a part the Russian society was forcefully moved into a Galicia-influenced one. Those who understand the history, will see that the solution to the conflict was all along federalisation of Ukraine (which was asked for by the population of the region and brokered by Russia), something that was blatantly rejected by the Keivan coup government. So the bomb that was smouldering since 1917 was continuing to wait for a trigger to set it off. Such trigger became the Odessa massacre of the 2nd of May, when the Russian population of Novorossia saw what was also in store for them and had to defend themselves...

As an aside, the roots to Russian distrust to Poland, for example are in the 1600, from the time of Polish intervention, trying to install a false-Drimtrij as Russian Czar.

Now, I agree with you on the point of numbers and numerology. Numbers mean only what we make them mean. the same (in)famous 2777...
101011011001 or 0010 0111 0111 0111 or 5331 are also 2777, 2 7 7 7, and 2777 in binary, binary and octal respectively. It all depends on what patterns our human pattern-seeking mind will manage to see in the static noise.

The crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, which went down yesterday afternoon after being shot with a missile, is now being looted. This is not only causing issues for the investigation, but also for the families of the victims on board, who will now not be able to recover the lost property of the 298 dead passengers and crew.

After the crash, investigators were unable to get to the site quickly and rope it off to preserve evidence. This allowed armed separatists and locals to essentially raid the scene. Suitcases were removed from the wreckage and pillaged. The coldhearted looters stole a variety of personal possessions, but left behind some apparent undesirables: a Minnie Mouse lunchbox, a Winnie the Pooh stuffed animal, family photographs, and intact passports.

As for what they took, wallets and credit cards were a favorite. A photojournalist at the scene said, "There isn't a single cellphone, wallet with money or camera to be found in any handbag or on the bodies. It's like they all mysteriously disappeared overnight."

<< Dutch PM describes armed rebels' behaviour in blocking access to crash site as "revolting". >>

<< Dutch PM describes armed rebels' behaviour in blocking access to crash site as "revolting". >>

The territory that shot the SAM was/is controlled by pro-Russian separatists. These forces were likely supplied with these SAMs by Russia.

Please wake the hell up and realize whats going on.

World War 3 is on the brinks of breaking lose. 

Israels ground offensive on Gaza and now this murderous attack on an unarmed plane.
It was easier to shoot these 300 innocent people than a bunch of sitting ducks.

Please wake the hell up and realize whats going on.

World War 3 is on the brinks of breaking lose. 

The forces of Evil - Greed, Corruption and Slavery is winning and we are doing nothing about it

Help me create awareness. I am not only ready to donate to a reputable and legitimate charity but offer free web service and hosting to anyone who is interested in doing so.

Pray for these innocent lives as there will be many more that will be taken in the coming days.
The rich will stay in their bunkers while the poor will die.

Duke

PLS, give any proof, how Russians shot a plane in deep territory under control of Kiev forces.

A simple search reveals that MH17 was in fact diverted 200km north from the usual flight path taken by Malaysian Airlines in the previous days – and plunged right in the middle of a war zone. Why? What sort of communication had MH17 received from the Kiev air control tower?

Kiev has been mute about it. Yet the answer would be simple, had Kiev released the Air Traffic Control recording of the tower talking to flight MH17; Malaysia did it after flight MH370 disappeared forever.

It won’t happen; SBU security confiscated it. So much for getting an undoctored explanation as to why MH17 was off its path, and what the pilots saw and said before the explosion.

And then there’s the curiouser and curiouser story of Carlos, the Spanish air traffic controller working at Kiev’s tower, who was following MH17 in real time. For some Carlos is legit - not a cipher; for others, he’s never even worked in Ukraine. Anyway he tweeted like mad. His account – not accidentally – has been shut down and he has disappeared. His friends are now desperately looking for him. I managed to read all his tweets in Spanish when the account was still online. And now copies and an English translation are available.

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