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Topic: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border - page 23. (Read 51960 times)

legendary
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Kiev forces continue to shell the territory around the crash site from Grad despite promises to stop shelling for the period of the investigation.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405770034
Journalists cannot come closer than Shaktersk.
legendary
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Free Free Palestine
Israels ground offensive on Gaza and now this murderous attack on an unarmed plane.
It was easier to shoot these 300 innocent people than a bunch of sitting ducks.

Please wake the hell up and realize whats going on.

World War 3 is on the brinks of breaking lose. 

The forces of Evil - Greed, Corruption and Slavery is winning and we are doing nothing about it

Help me create awareness. I am not only ready to donate to a reputable and legitimate charity but offer free web service and hosting to anyone who is interested in doing so.

Pray for these innocent lives as there will be many more that will be taken in the coming days.
The rich will stay in their bunkers while the poor will die.

Duke
legendary
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I've just had an epiphany. There is a logical discrepancy. The American intelligence reported within hours that they have information that the plane was shot down by a SAM missile. Shouldn't they then have the location of the SAM site that performed the launch of said missile? Seeing as US is highly interested in choking the freedom movement in their new colony (yes, it's time everyone starts noticing the big pink elephant that is US in the room, that is Ukraine), if the freedom fighters were indeed the ones that launched that missile, the intelligence agency would have trumpeted it across the globe. What we see is sideways insinuations against Russia, all the while Kiev releasing fake videos, and today filming in Dniepropetrovsk a fake news report, as if it was filmed at the crash site. These actions speak quite loudly that it might have been a Kiev-controlled SAM doing the shooting, and US in their desperation to cover the tracks, are releasing only a half-truth on their intelligence service report. Alternatively the US intelligence might not have had any data to report, and were simply relaying information from Russian military, that said that SAM radio activity was spotted in Ukraine prior to shooting.



By the way, from the timeline at http://rt.com/news/173628-malaysian-plane-crash-ukraine/

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12:55 GMT:

Before the probe into the crash of the Malaysian plane commenced, several countries jumped to make statements of the true causes of the tragedy without proof, said the official statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry. By doing this, these countries are compromising the course of the investigation, it added.

“The Russian side was the first to call for independent, open and objective investigation of the reasons of the accident… It should be made with the assistance of International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) and other international groups…” said the statement.

The ministry stressed that “only this form of investigation will provide a truly independent investigation, avoid one-sided assessments and reveal the real reasons of the incident.”
legendary
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^^^ That is terrific. The Czech Republic is considered as on of the most pro-NATO Slavic nations. Even there 76% of the population believes that the plane was shot down by the Ukrainian military. Seems like the people are much brighter than those in the US and UK. (14,636 votes now).
I'm sorry for saying this, but brain of average Britain citizen seems like a clean array of TLC flash memory cells... It can be reprogrammed in run-time without any side effects.
legendary
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^^^ That is terrific. The Czech Republic is considered as on of the most pro-NATO Slavic nations. Even there 76% of the population believes that the plane was shot down by the Ukrainian military. Seems like the people are much brighter than those in the US and UK. (14,636 votes now).
legendary
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This is sickening that the Russians would kill innocent civilians like this.

PLS, give any proof, how Russians shot a plane in deep territory under control of Kiev forces.
Who cares about proofs?  Grin Any tragedy is a nice thing to use flashy newspaper headlines and get additional amount of money.



But people are much smarter than trolls:

http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/arena/monitor/Rusko-prinasi-tvrde-obvineni-Ukrajinske-raketove-systemy-byly-v-chodu-kdyz-spadlo-letadlo-Zachytili-jsme-to-327457

sr. member
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This is sickening that the Russians would kill innocent civilians like this.

PLS, give any proof, how Russians shot a plane in deep territory under control of Kiev forces.
newbie
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This is sickening that the Russians would kill innocent civilians like this.

I would predict that war would break out in eastern Europe in the next year.
legendary
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English ⬄ Russian Translation Services

I care for each innocent life that died equally, nationalities mean nothing to me.

How You can care about, if Your media report nothing about?

He probably meant innocents as such, not necessarily the civilians from Novorossia (or from wherever else)... Cool
sr. member
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I care for each innocent life that died equally, nationalities mean nothing to me.

How You can care about, if Your media report nothing about?
hero member
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The airline has released the nationalities of all passengers.
Only one was a US citizen and he was a dual citizen with Dutch & US citizenship.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html

Who cares about the nationalities? 300 innocent people died, i couldn'tcare less about which passport they were carrying. Countries and borders are old- fashioned, time to get rid of them.

Many more civilians have already been killed by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as a result of shellings and bombings. Do you care for them as well? Cool
I care for each innocent life that died equally, nationalities mean nothing to me.
sr. member
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Yes... Assad's forces have Grad and other multi-barrel rocket launchers, and they are also using barrel bombs. But what about the rebels? They are also armed with sophisticated weaponry such as advanced anti-tank missiles.

It's a complex conflict, FSA, al nusra and ISIL are mainly a lot of local militia associated with low central control. For sure some are criminal but some are just citizen who want protect their neighborhood. I'm sure there is few real Islam extremist  but people ally with ISIL and al-nusra cause they don't want be killed by them.
legendary
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Obviously the Syrian government have smart scud and smart barrel bomb...
If you think Russian puppet have the right to kill civilian just tell it please, it's far more respectable than hypocrisy...

Yes... Assad's forces have Grad and other multi-barrel rocket launchers, and they are also using barrel bombs. But what about the rebels? They are also armed with sophisticated weaponry such as advanced anti-tank missiles.
newbie
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The airline has released the nationalities of all passengers.
Only one was a US citizen and he was a dual citizen with Dutch & US citizenship.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html


Who cares about the nationalities? 300 innocent people died, i couldn'tcare less about which passport they were carrying. Countries and borders are old- fashioned, time to get rid of them.

I put up the link to the manifest because there was a post earlier in this thread that "Ukrainian government says that 23 Americans were aboard".    I don't know if the Ukes said that or not but I did hear news media speculation that a lot of americans were on board,
obviously to rile up american sentiment against Moscow.

sr. member
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Most of the casualties in Syria were caused when the US-backed FSA and ISIS massacred civilians in the eastern provinces of Syria, although some were killed as a result of action by the government forces.

Obviously the Syrian government have smart scud and smart barrel bomb...

If you think Russian puppet have the right to kill civilian just tell it please, it's far more respectable than hypocrisy...

And do not forget baathism was a socialist  fascist totalitarian ideology about "create a new Arab" and used many social engineering tool like deportation... Russia always support good people...
legendary
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Many more civilians have already been killed by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as a result of shellings and bombings. Do you care for them as well? Cool

And the people killed by bashar al Assad ? 200 000 seem a lot of terrorist...

Most of the casualties in Syria were caused when the US-backed FSA and ISIS massacred civilians in the eastern provinces of Syria, although some were killed as a result of action by the government forces.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Many more civilians have already been killed by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as a result of shellings and bombings. Do you care for them as well? Cool

And the people killed by bashar al Assad ? 200 000 seem a lot of terrorist...
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
English ⬄ Russian Translation Services
The airline has released the nationalities of all passengers.
Only one was a US citizen and he was a dual citizen with Dutch & US citizenship.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html

Who cares about the nationalities? 300 innocent people died, i couldn'tcare less about which passport they were carrying. Countries and borders are old- fashioned, time to get rid of them.

Many more civilians have already been killed by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as a result of shellings and bombings. Do you care for them as well? Cool
hero member
Activity: 841
Merit: 1000
The airline has released the nationalities of all passengers.
Only one was a US citizen and he was a dual citizen with Dutch & US citizenship.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html


Who cares about the nationalities? 300 innocent people died, i couldn'tcare less about which passport they were carrying. Countries and borders are old- fashioned, time to get rid of them.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
The airline has released the nationalities of all passengers.
Only one was a US citizen and he was a dual citizen with Dutch & US citizenship.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html

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