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Topic: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border - page 26. (Read 51934 times)

legendary
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Numbers are meaningless by themselves, they just have some use and form under math. A seven has no clue it is a seven, means nothing to the Universe, we also call today 18th July 2014 by random events like the supposed birth of Jesus.
To all its extent, whatever sums to 7 or other far fetched conspiracy lacks any rational ground.  Grin
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None of us were alive by 1917. If we go by seek the roots of any conflict by History we come to find shit enough to justify pretty much anything, it just depends on how deep we dig. No country is a saint, not even Tibet!
We have to sort our lives today, not at our grandparents graves.


Actually David Rockefeller was alive then. I don't think he is surfing theese forums though, but I'm sure someone working for him does. Speaking of airplanes, his son also died in an airplance accident this year.. aged 66(or 60 something). Apparently he crashed into a stable. Out ran 4 horses.. of the apocalypse. Also, Queen Elisabeth, the grandmother to the child born 22/7 last year(which named the Russian Aggression Prevension Act S2277 With birthdate) is 88 years old. Pope Francis, the first jesuit ever to be a pope, is 77 years old..


I'm not even joking, this is all fact. Wtf.
legendary
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Energy is Wealth
Not sure but there seems to be 2 different upload date and times,
Ukraine version: "uploaded":"2014-07-17 19:11:54
Russion version: 16 July 14 at 00:09
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Double crossing and misinformation at work from both sides.
legendary
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Indeed some stuff smells fishy, like the Ukraine's minister offering condolences and pointing fingers just a couple of minutes after the crash.
The exact setup can be a bit different than the one pointed at the video, Kiev knowing the rebels seized a BUK system could simply have everything arranged for the first minute those poorly educated on warfare rebels misfire that at some bystander commercial plane.
legendary
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chaos is fun...…damental :)
legendary
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None of us were alive by 1917. If we go by seek the roots of any conflict by History we come to find shit enough to justify pretty much anything, it just depends on how deep we dig. No country is a saint, not even Tibet!
We have to sort our lives today, not at our grandparents graves.
legendary
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We are dealing with TODAY events, not earl, mid or late XX Century!
Stop trying to justify today's mistakes with the past! No mater what, two wrongs never make a right!

No one's is justifying anything, but to understand the present events you need to know the history. The roots of today's conflict lie in 1917. Now, this is getting off-topic.
legendary
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English ⬄ Russian Translation Services
Firstly Russia should apologize for communism and judge all communist criminal before do international politic.
Huh

Marx, Engels, Blank, Juhashvili - they all are Jews.

Well, Gzhugashvili (Stalin) was Georgian... On other accounts, yes, and both Marx, Engels and Lenin were big Russophobes. Their goal was a destruction/split of Russia.

Surprise, but Jugashvili in the Georgian language means "son of a Jew"! Grin

And Stalin was of Ossetian descent... Cool
legendary
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From data of Eurocontrol, before falling of airplane Russia closed four corridors, among that there was continuation of route of voyage of MH17


A few hours prior to falling of passenger airplane of Boeing 777 Russia closed four air corridors on the territory, and also a few routes are near-by the Ukrainian border.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/17/world/europe/maps-of-the-crash-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17.html?_r=0

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Well, Gzhugashvili (Stalin) was Georgian...

Родился в семье выкрестов. В Грузии нет такой фамилии вообще.
legendary
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We are dealing with TODAY events, not earl, mid or late XX Century!
Stop trying to justify today's mistakes with the past! No mater what, two wrongs never make a right!
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
Firstly Russia should apologize for communism and judge all communist criminal before do international politic.
Huh

Marx, Engels, Blank, Juhashvili - they all are Jews.

Well, Gzhugashvili (Stalin) was Georgian... On other accounts, yes, and both Marx, Engels and Lenin were big Russophobes. Their goal was a destruction/split of Russia.
sr. member
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Firstly Russia should apologize for communism and judge all communist criminal before do international politic.
Huh

Marx, Engels, Blank, Juhashvili - they all are Jews.
legendary
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English ⬄ Russian Translation Services
This is the sort of thing than can start a major war.Rebels fighting against Ukraine and supplied by Russia are the suspects. Bodies reported all over the ground for miles. What a tragedy.  But how can Russia afford to arm the rebels when the country is suffering from crushing sanctions?
The Russian rebels deny they are Russian or funded by Russians and yes, this act by rebels could justify Russia invading Ukraine just like rebels  in crimea justified their takeover of crimea and the forced election.
It's also possible that it was an accident. Russian insurgents in Ukraine have been firing anti-aircraft missiles at Ukrainian fighter jets, so who knows. But an airliner looks nothing like a fighter jet or even a bomber.Exactly. I suspect that Russia may use the same excuse. We shall see. After all, Obama is no threat.
Shot at 33,000 feet in the sky?  I don't think this was any accident.  The odds would be astronomical.
I meant they could have mistaken an airliner for a military jet. At over six miles away, it would be hard to tell the difference.
No. The rebels who probably fired it probably did not have adequate training, and could easily have carelessly thought it was a military plane. Proof will be hard to find unless some emails, etc., surface.

It was said that the plane had been shot prematurely, and it should have fallen on the Russian territory. Also, to fall where it fell, a missile that hit it should have been launched from the place where there are no separatists (i.e. from the territory controlled by Kiev)... Cool
newbie
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The Separatists thought it was a UA transport plane.
Please watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuX6rEOjyqA and you'll know who shot down this plane

legendary
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Firstly, US officials should to say sorry for having downed an Iranian passenger jet in the 80's. Only after that they will have a right to say anything.

Firstly Russia should apologize for communism and judge all communist criminal before do international politic.

Firstly Germany and UK should apologise for installing communism in Russia and plunging it into chaos in 1917.

Back on topic, it seems the plane was expected to fall on Russian territory, but was shot prematurely. The way Hillary and Australian Abbot going on about Russia, Russia, Russia...

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-criticises-russias-response-to-mh17-tragedy-as-deeply-unsatisfactory-20140718-3c6np.html
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Prime Minister Tony Abbott has delivered a blunt warning to Russia it will be shunned by the international community unless it accepts some responsibility for the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash and backs a fully transparent international investigation into the tragedy.

Mr Abbott said it appeared the plane had been shot down by Russian-backed rebels in Eastern Ukraine and that he was deeply unsatisfied with Russia's attempts to blame Ukraine for the disaster.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkTRJgDkNFg



More fakes from Ukraine:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17
legendary
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Firstly, US officials should to say sorry for having downed an Iranian passenger jet in the 80's. Only after that they will have a right to say anything.

Firstly Russia should apologize for communism and judge all communist criminal before do international politic.
Firstly USA should apologize and judge all current land owners for wiping 90% of native american population before living there.

If you haven't noticed, we're currently talking about specific cases rather than metaphysical garbage.

However, if you really find it's hard to sleep without thinking about leftist movements, well, we can continue then. Sorry to disappoint you, but even Stalin or Ceauşescu were innocent children in comparison with american démocrature. These things are simply incomparable by the number of crimes, victims and acts of aggression. Any attempt to advocate a liberal dictocracy through comparison with moderate communist (as well as any other left-wing) movements is hopeless, it will simply bring you to cognitive dissonance.  Roll Eyes

// went to sleep, maybe we'll have a talk next time
sr. member
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Firstly, US officials should to say sorry for having downed an Iranian passenger jet in the 80's. Only after that they will have a right to say anything.

Firstly Russia should apologize for communism and judge all communist criminal before do international politic.
sr. member
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It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that the Ukraine forces did the evil deed so they could blame the "rebels".One thing is for sure, I wouldn't travel with Malaysian Airlines.
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