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full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
June 20, 2013, 01:49:04 PM
Wait, what?  At the least, I would expect a 0 trust rating to be neutral in value, not negative.

No. People who haven't done any trades (as far as the trust system knows) are dangerous.

These seems like a really effective way to grow the bitcoin market.

legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
June 20, 2013, 01:47:28 PM
Wait, what?  At the least, I would expect a 0 trust rating to be neutral in value, not negative.
+1 Why would you put everybody under general suspicion?
People who haven't done any trades (as far as the trust system knows) are dangerous.
Tafuq? Must be an American thing.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
June 20, 2013, 01:44:11 PM
Wait, what?  At the least, I would expect a 0 trust rating to be neutral in value, not negative.

No. People who haven't done any trades (as far as the trust system knows) are dangerous.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
June 20, 2013, 01:35:58 PM
I primarily do all of my deals through otc, and thus use the wot, however i figured i would test out the new trust system with a recent deal i did here on the forums. I had a gentleman buy a gpu off me. I added my trust rating for him and it immediately showed the +1 on his profile, however when he left his trust for me, nothing  but the trust comment shows up. Did we mess something up?

You have to add him to your trust list.
thank you. I was just coming back to post that i figured it out. For some reason the mechanism that displays the list and the field to add your own wasnt showing on my note 10.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
June 20, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
I primarily do all of my deals through otc, and thus use the wot, however i figured i would test out the new trust system with a recent deal i did here on the forums. I had a gentleman buy a gpu off me. I added my trust rating for him and it immediately showed the +1 on his profile, however when he left his trust for me, nothing  but the trust comment shows up. Did we mess something up?

You have to add him to your trust list.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
June 20, 2013, 01:29:37 PM
I primarily do all of my deals through otc, and thus use the wot, however i figured i would test out the new trust system with a recent deal i did here on the forums. I had a gentleman buy a gpu off me. I added my trust rating for him and it immediately showed the +1 on his profile, however when he left his trust for me, nothing  but the trust comment shows up. Did we mess something up?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
June 20, 2013, 01:27:54 PM
Now that people are starting to get green trust, in a week or two I will make it so people with 0 trust have yellow trust text instead of black.

If you don't want yellow/red trust, you need to get people to rate you positively now. It takes a month for your first positive rating to give you any trust.

Wait, what?  At the least, I would expect a 0 trust rating to be neutral in value, not negative.

So now, in order to not be viewed with distrust I need to go around and beg folks to rate me?  Should I set up arbitrary exchanges of coin so that I can gain positive ratings?  

I would sooner post a bond with John K. than run around doing a collection of small transactions to build a trust rating.  I would be suspicious of someone who does a series of small transactions with the goal of gaining trust ratings.  I definitely expect anyone else would be suspicious of such activity.  It basically is the leading edge of a con or scam to create trust with small transactions before pulling the big scam.
hero member
Activity: 588
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
June 20, 2013, 01:22:59 PM
Now that people are starting to get green trust, in a week or two I will make it so people with 0 trust have yellow trust text instead of black.

If you don't want yellow/red trust, you need to get people to rate you positively now. It takes a month for your first positive rating to give you any trust.
That's cute and all, but when does the real reputation/trust system go live? You know, the one with in-line rebuttals to spam and libel by sockpuppets and blackmailers that people continue to take seriously despite your short sighted opinion?
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
June 20, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
Now that people are starting to get green trust, in a week or two I will make it so people with 0 trust have yellow trust text instead of black.

If you don't want yellow/red trust, you need to get people to rate you positively now. It takes a month for your first positive rating to give you any trust.
administrator
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Merit: 13032
June 20, 2013, 11:48:53 AM
Good, thanks for checking.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
June 20, 2013, 09:32:03 AM
This is borked now. It will not show untrusted feedback, even when you click the show ratings button.

Does it work now? I changed display:inherit to display:block.

That solved it.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
June 19, 2013, 07:49:19 PM
I missed the "Show ratings":

I guess thats new...
staff
Activity: 3304
Merit: 4115
June 19, 2013, 07:45:34 PM
Where did my trust go?!?
I had the same trust i sent and its all gone(or i cant see it?)

You can't see it here.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1003
June 19, 2013, 07:33:57 PM
Where did my trust go?!?
I had the same trust i sent and its all gone(or i cant see it?)
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
June 19, 2013, 12:37:50 PM

Untrusted feedback doesn't "seem" to influence trust ratings according to whom?

According to Glorious Leader:

Quote from: theymos
These scores are taken from your trust network. They are not global scores.

This corresponds to the trust scores I'm seeing on other peoples profiles. If I see someone in the red, then there's always someone from my trust network directly negatively  commenting on the user. There's lots of users that I do not see in the red, even though they have scores of negative comments, because the commentators are not in my trust network.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
June 19, 2013, 12:33:44 PM
Man you guys are f@#$%d... I didnt realize what was meant by default trust.... f!@# you I dont trust any off you insiders. Especially TradeFortress there are numerous scammer threads about him... He is a lender! I dont trust lenders of coin!  I trust who I trust not who you think I should trust. Shit is bullshit.  

Then change your trust list. That's the point of this complicated trust network system.

Until you allow in-line rebuttals, your "complicated trust network system" is nothing more than a libel/slander spam tool.

Actually no, because untrusted feedback doesn't seem to influence trust ratings (and the typical slanderer wouldn't really be part of most people's trust network)

Untrusted feedback doesn't "seem" to influence trust ratings according to whom? Would you like me to get 100 accounts here to write that you defrauded them on your trust page and see how many times you need to explain yourself publicly whenever it's brought up? Don't be so narrow minded to think what's fine with you is fine for everyone else.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
June 19, 2013, 12:27:44 PM
Man you guys are f@#$%d... I didnt realize what was meant by default trust.... f!@# you I dont trust any off you insiders. Especially TradeFortress there are numerous scammer threads about him... He is a lender! I dont trust lenders of coin!  I trust who I trust not who you think I should trust. Shit is bullshit. 

Then change your trust list. That's the point of this complicated trust network system.

Until you allow in-line rebuttals, your "complicated trust network system" is nothing more than a libel/slander spam tool.

Actually no, because untrusted feedback doesn't seem to influence trust ratings (and the typical slanderer wouldn't really be part of most people's trust network)
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
June 19, 2013, 12:21:02 PM
Man you guys are f@#$%d... I didnt realize what was meant by default trust.... f!@# you I dont trust any off you insiders. Especially TradeFortress there are numerous scammer threads about him... He is a lender! I dont trust lenders of coin!  I trust who I trust not who you think I should trust. Shit is bullshit. 

Then change your trust list. That's the point of this complicated trust network system.

Until you allow in-line rebuttals, your "complicated trust network system" is nothing more than a libel/slander spam tool.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
June 19, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
Man you guys are f@#$%d... I didnt realize what was meant by default trust.... f!@# you I dont trust any off you insiders. Especially TradeFortress there are numerous scammer threads about him... He is a lender! I dont trust lenders of coin!  I trust who I trust not who you think I should trust. Shit is bullshit. 

Then change your trust list. That's the point of this complicated trust network system.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
June 19, 2013, 11:51:51 AM
This is borked now. It will not show untrusted feedback, even when you click the show ratings button.

Does it work now? I changed display:inherit to display:block.

I'm on another machine now. I'll have a look tomorrow.
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