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administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
May 22, 2013, 07:05:17 PM
#36
It'd be nice if we could give feedback from someone's user page, for off-the-forum deals and importing trades prior to the implementation of this feature.

Go ahead.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
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May 22, 2013, 07:03:52 PM
#35
It'd be nice if we could give feedback from someone's user page, for off-the-forum deals and importing trades prior to the implementation of this feature.
legendary
Activity: 1615
Merit: 1000
May 22, 2013, 05:58:00 AM
#34
Did this just get turned off? I was about to try to "trust" someone and noticed the section under usernames is gone!

edit: Nevermind, marketplace only. I do think I saw this in other subforums as well just a moment ago.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
May 21, 2013, 11:34:06 PM
#33
Haven't tested it yet and not sure if I understand the usefulness of feedback when you have power to be selective of whom it comes from, but after 2 years of bothering you about it, I'm very glad something was finally made.
vip
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043
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May 21, 2013, 11:15:23 PM
#32
Let the witch hunting begin.
Nah, someone can make a few sockpuppets and leave BS feedback for someone they don't like, but it won't show up unless you have trusted them (directly or indirectly).

I'd like to see a list of everyone I indirectly trust, or at least a way to see how something became trusted (ie RandomUser was trusted by Someguy who you trust) to make it easy to remove people that are trusting the wrong people.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
May 21, 2013, 10:06:39 PM
#31
Let the witch hunting begin.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
May 21, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
#30
I think post count is useless. Just check how many Hero members we had running epic scams in here.

It implies some amount of effort has been put in, it prevents people from using all of their sockpuppets to negative rate people (think of Atlas) and also prevents people from creating accounts just to negative rate people.

I partially agree here, but at the same time I've seen a number of new-ish accounts trading with other new-ish accounts...they're not newbies, but they're not hero members either. Maybe just limit to anyone under a Full Member?

Then again, I've seen a few hero accounts create 1-2 months ago with more posts than me. It doesn't take much to spam threads with useless drivel to boost your post count.

This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

Scammers hopefully won't be in anyone's trust network, so they can't affect your scores.

Going off this a bit, maybe it would be better to require a "Reference" to successful / failed trades to help prove positive or negative trust? Obviously not fool proof, but it may help to limit spamming a user with negative feedback without anything to back it up.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
May 21, 2013, 08:48:46 PM
#29
Is anyone else concerned that this system may make it a lot easier for malicious parties to regulate, abuse, or target some of the most active members of the Bitcoin economy by turning it into an easy to use exportable database available to the public?
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
May 21, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
#28
is there a plan to add this to subforum language marketplace sections like:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=35.0 ?

+1

Or directly visible globally?
vip
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043
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May 21, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
#27
This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

That's what I was wondering too. BTW, I +Trust'd you Cheesy
+trusted you both!
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
May 21, 2013, 04:40:58 PM
#26
This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

That's what I was wondering too. BTW, I +Trust'd you Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Let's Start a Cryptolution!!
May 21, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
#25
Awesome addition! So glad to finally see something like this, very good feature!! E-props!!

Also, Sticky Request?
hero member
Activity: 898
Merit: 1000
May 21, 2013, 12:10:39 PM
#24
This trust feature seems like a good idea. I had a slightly different idea that would incorporate user stats as a sort of measure of trust. Starting with the premise that users with a higher post count tend to be deemed more trustworthy; but of course post count alone doesn't tell you everything - any scammer could simply create an account and spend a week or so increasing their post count. So incorporating registration date would be helpful too, i.e. high post count and longer time registered = generally more trustworthy. But this would create an incentive for scammers to create many accounts and then leave them dormant until they want to use them. So would it be possible to have, for example, a graph which charts the consistency of posting? This way, scammers looking to build up trust would have to register an account and also be consistently active which would greatly increase the effort involved.

With this system, it would be easy to quickly check a user's history - how long have they been registered and how consistently do they post (This is already possible to do, but requires a certain amount of effort). It would make it easy to spot accounts which have either been dormant for a long period and then suddenly racked up a high post count, or registered very recently with many posts made in a short time period.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
May 21, 2013, 11:47:42 AM
#23
Is there a list of default / theymos trusts?

I will probably publish the entire trust network at some point.

is there a plan to add this to subforum language marketplace sections like:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=35.0 ?

I can add it to local sections if the local moderators want. I won't be able to translate the UI now, though.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
May 21, 2013, 11:43:55 AM
#22
This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

Scammers hopefully won't be in anyone's trust network, so they can't affect your scores.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
May 21, 2013, 09:39:03 AM
#21
I think post count is useless. Just check how many Hero members we had running epic scams in here.

It implies some amount of effort has been put in, it prevents people from using all of their sockpuppets to negative rate people (think of Atlas) and also prevents people from creating accounts just to negative rate people.

Yes, it definitely will make it much harder to have faked rates happen.

Edit:

I definitely like this rep system. I've went through and added a rep to the ones that have been recently active, that have gave loan outs to me.

Note:Before you add anyone from the past, I might suggest to you to check up on their last activity and make sure it has been recent.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1006
May 21, 2013, 09:21:11 AM
#20
I think post count is useless. Just check how many Hero members we had running epic scams in here.

It implies some amount of effort has been put in, it prevents people from using all of their sockpuppets to negative rate people (think of Atlas) and also prevents people from creating accounts just to negative rate people.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1018
May 21, 2013, 09:17:57 AM
#19
This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

I would probably say, this is beta or even alpha stage, I am sure theymos and the like minds will come up with something incredibly genius to battle this.

I think we should make it so only Hero Member's can submit ratings.

I think post count is useless. Just check how many Hero members we had running epic scams in here.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
May 21, 2013, 09:12:56 AM
#18
I think this is a great idea for the forums and I hope it works out.

I dunno if it is or not, like theymos said, see how it plays out. Imo, like tvsat said, no point in rep threads now, which theymos, tvsat and probably many others including me, agree on. This though, a much cleaner option imo.

Good thinking and great job, theymos.

This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

I would probably say, this is beta or even alpha stage, I am sure theymos and the like minds will come up with something incredibly genius to battle this.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1018
May 21, 2013, 09:11:03 AM
#17
This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

Hope this is not happening, kudos to mlawrence job in the lending subforums
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