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legendary
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January 07, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
Yatsenjuk is to meet Merkel tomorrow. CyberBerkut launched an attack on German computer resources, trying to draw attention to the possibility of EU tax money being used to wholesale slaughter of people of Novorossia.

Ukrainian hacktivists block German government websites
http://rt.com/news/220515-hacking-ukraine-german-government/

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CyberBerkut say that Prime Minister Yatsenyuk intends to use billions of dollars of aid from the European Union and International Monetary Fund to continue to wage war in the east of the country, which has already killed thousands of people. The Ukrainian government intends to review its national budget by February 15.

“That's why we appeal to all people and the government of Germany to stop financial and political support of the criminal regime in Kiev, which unleashed a bloody civil war,” the organization said on its website. “This war has already taken thousands of lives, and Yatsenyuk will kill more for your money!” they added.

Also, from November:

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According to the hacktivists, who made the documents public on Tuesday, the Ukrainian military has recently been asking for and been promised financial support from the United States, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The hackers claimed they obtained the confidential State Department documents by breaking into a mobile device belonging to one of the American delegation's members, who had traveled to Ukraine together with US Vice President Joe Biden. The US politician visited Kiev on November 20-21.

In March 2014, the group claimed responsibility for taking down three NATO websites in a series of DDoS attacks. The group criticized NATO for stirring up turmoil in Ukraine and helping the “Kiev junta” suppress freedom of speech.
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January 06, 2015, 04:38:55 PM
An interesting historical analysis:
http://ruspravda.info/K-100-letiyu-poyavleniya-ukraintsev.-Nayden-tochniy-otvet-na-vopros-skolko-let-nazad-poyavilis-ukraintsi-7534.html

The author followed the back issues of newspaper "Svoboda", a "Ukrainian" emigrant newspaper, and discovered that on the 13th of October 1014 the paper for the first time stopped referring to its audience as "Russian people" and replaced it with "Ukrainian people".

So Ukraine is only 100 years old and not 140000 years old as Soros-funded history books for Ukrainian schoolchildren claim.

Here's is a translation of the article below. Follow the link for the images of the newspaper back-issues.

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How many years ago did Ukrainians appear?

Today I found the exact answer to the question, how many years ago, the Ukrainians appear. It turns out that the process of the emergence of Ukrainians as a people is documented, and in the pro-Ukrainian sources to boot.

In the United States, since 1893 there is published an emigre newspaper "Freedom" of pro-Ukrainian orientation. It is still published, and on the official website of the newspaper there is an archive of all its issues. I followed, when the newspaper first started writing about the Ukrainian people and found exactly the issue, where the word "Russian people", as the Ukrainians previously called themselves, suddenly changed to "Ukrainian people." Want to know what it was the date? Not a hundred years have passed, as one would say...

Here is the first edition of "Freedom" for the September 15, 1893. Yes, under the headline is a quote by Shevchenko. But still below the inscription: "Clear writing for Russian people in America". Russian, not Ukrainian!

Let's see another number for the same year. Similarly. For the Russian people. Even the language bears little resemblance to Ukrainian, but rather it is the Malorossian dialect of Old Russian. If someone from the Ukrainians do not believe me, you do go into the files, there are penty of the backissues, it's not fake. Each year it saw 50 issues, and then more later on. And nowhere in the issue for the 19th century is there mention of the Ukrainians. They call themselves Russian people.

And here is the number of the 20th century, with the January 4, 1900. "For Russian people", "Russian People's Union". They themselves are called.

Looking for an issue on January 1910. Then they say "body Ruthenian People's Union in the americium." Well, OK. "Ruthenian", "Russian", but in any case not Ukrainian.

And here it is, the latest release, which refers to the Russian people. For 13th October 1914. However, modestly referred to "R.N.". But in the upper right corner you can read the "Russian People's Union".

And in the next issue, on the 15th of October 1914, the abbreviation "R.N." has changed to "U.N.". And next to it it's written in English not "R", but "UKR". And in the top right corner of it it's already written "Ukrainian People's Union":

After that there is no mention of "Russian" or "Ruthenian people." Here's another number, the last in 1914, in this and all subsequent issues they write about Ukrainians.

From all this it can be concluded that Ukrainians were not 140 thousand years ago, but celebrate exactly 100 years in 1914. Until 1914, even they called themselves Russian people.
legendary
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January 03, 2015, 05:19:36 PM
Units of Nazional Guard have been dispatched to Odessa:

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1684043

It's an open question how much "security" they will provide.



A Russian actor Panin was captured by "punishers" in Odessa, was made to do some "speeches" on tape under threat. He is now released and back in Moscow.



And TV/media is under tight censorship in Ukraine. The office Inter TV was under attack (with raiders throwing stones) today as they showed the traditional New Year musical program "Blue Light". This time, the three singers that were barred from Latvia during the music contest in Jurmala, created a response performance.

Ukraine TV channel Inter removes Russia New Year programmes over licence-stripping threats
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/770273

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Overnight to January 1, Inter has broadcast a New Year programme of a Russian TV channel which featured artists who once voiced their public support to Moscow position regarding the crisis in Ukraine

KIEV, January 3. /TASS/. Ukrainian TV channel Inter cancelled broadcasting of several earlier announced Russian-made programmes due to calls to strip it of its licence made by several politicians, including Secretary of Ukrainian National Security Council Aleksander Turchinov, the TV channel said in a statement posted on its website.
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January 02, 2015, 12:42:44 PM

But they are. They may not realise it consciously, but their actions, their stance on TV broadcasts speak volumes. Turchinov, Tjagnobok, Yarosh, Yatsenjuk, Poroshenko, Nalivajchenko, Kolomojskij. These people have blood on their hands, lots of it - either from orders to shoot down, to kill, to torture, to shell, or from orders to isolate, to starve people to death, to deprive them of medicines. They know it, and the possibility of another Nürenberg and of a very brief meeting with a firing squad is there, at the back of the minds of these quislings. IT is just a matter of time before this fear outweighs the fear of whatever dirt US has on them, or the strength of their greed.


both. those files on those people date back from USSR, I guess? where if you failed you died? hahaha. Technically speaking a standing execution by the heat of the battle isn't a firing squad, why because there is no protocol for it Cheesy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China#Executions_procedure



(realizZzed)
legendary
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January 02, 2015, 12:32:07 PM
This would make a better separate post:

Oliver Stone took an interview from Yanukovish - the last legitimate Ukrainian president.

https://www.facebook.com/TheOliverStone/posts/901387646552202

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Interviewed Viktor Yanukovych 4 hours in Moscow for new English language documentary produced by Ukrainians. He was the legitimate President of Ukraine until he suddenly wasn’t on February 22 of this year. Details to follow in the documentary, but it seems clear that the so-called ‘shooters’ who killed 14 police men, wounded some 85, and killed 45 protesting civilians, were outside third party agitators. Many witnesses, including Yanukovych and police officials, believe these foreign elements were introduced by pro-Western factions-- with CIA fingerprints on it.

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And in the following post he writes about USA's long-time subversive involvement in Ukraine:

https://www.facebook.com/TheOliverStone/posts/902035439820756

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‘Nightingale’ in Ukraine

For those of you angry with my analysis of Ukraine yesterday, please try to understand the bigger picture I’m offering. I have no brief for Viktor Yanukovych, he may well be the most corrupt president Ukraine’s ever had. Ukraine has a dramatic history of corruption. That is not my point. How Yanukovych was removed is -- and although many (perhaps a majority) of Ukrainian people wanted him out, there is ample evidence of pro-Western, third party interference, beginning with Victoria Nuland, John McCain, USAID, National Endowment for Democracy (who apparently organize very well on Facebook and Twitter), etc. Why for instance are so many policemen dead and wounded, and yet no one has investigated this in the new government?

The other point to consider in the big picture is US involvement with Ukraine going back to 1949, when the CIA and strongly anti-Soviet Defense Secretary James Forrestal created a guerrilla army codenamed ‘Nightingale,’ made up of ultra-nationalist Ukrainians. The Nazis originally set up the prototype of this militia up in 1941 to wreak havoc in famine-racked regions where Soviet control was loose, carrying out the murder of 1000s of Jews, Soviets, and Poles who opposed a separate Ukrainian state.

Beginning in 1949, for 5 years the CIA parachuted Ukrainian infiltrators into the region. To the Soviets it was as if the US were infiltrating guerrillas into Canada or Mexico.


The big picture is the US has never given up on using Ukraine as a launching pad to the underbelly of the Soviet Union, now a reduced Russia. This Cold War 2.0 policy continues in a most deadly fashion, and whether they know it or not, the Ukrainian civilian population in the middle has suffered greatly from this ideological crusade.

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legendary
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January 02, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
The tops in the Ukrainian coup government are scared. Scared for the consequences of the atrocities they endorse, scared that the current part of nazism will come to an end. And it will come about as people of Ukraine (in Malorossia and Galicia, as Novorossians and Rusins already understand what's happening) will start to realise that they've been conned.
To prevent this, free speech is banned, journalists get attacked.

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So yes, the nazis and their US handlers are scared and are employing the tactics that was used during the darkest times of German Nazism and Soviet Stalin's repressions - censorship.



Scared, are you fucking joking? they have killed Russian Citizens, and they live next to RUSSIA, lol. They are insane... simply.

But about censorships, I love it. And you know why dear SO, because SOF can come, blast what ever, who ever, in the most brutal and martial way, and no fuckers in the country will know about it. It's called freedom to operate Darkside... and yes it's a frightening moment for everyone in place where such "black zone" become "hot". Hot and darkness... a preview of hell? Sooner or later the "conned" People will meet a thing, more deep, stable, secure and indestructible than anything they ever seen, it's called reality... And it's Wall is. If you want to cross it there is no other path, but death. hard I told you.

But they are. They may not realise it consciously, but their actions, their stance on TV broadcasts speak volumes. Turchinov, Tjagnobok, Yarosh, Yatsenjuk, Poroshenko, Nalivajchenko, Kolomojskij. These people have blood on their hands, lots of it - either from orders to shoot down, to kill, to torture, to shell, or from orders to isolate, to starve people to death, to deprive them of medicines. They know it, and the possibility of another Nürenberg and of a very brief meeting with a firing squad is there, at the back of the minds of these quislings. IT is just a matter of time before this fear outweighs the fear of whatever dirt US has on them, or the strength of their greed.
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"PLEASE SCULPT YOUR SHIT BEFORE THROWING. Thank U"
January 02, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
The tops in the Ukrainian coup government are scared. Scared for the consequences of the atrocities they endorse, scared that the current part of nazism will come to an end. And it will come about as people of Ukraine (in Malorossia and Galicia, as Novorossians and Rusins already understand what's happening) will start to realise that they've been conned.
To prevent this, free speech is banned, journalists get attacked.

...

So yes, the nazis and their US handlers are scared and are employing the tactics that was used during the darkest times of German Nazism and Soviet Stalin's repressions - censorship.



Scared, are you fucking joking? they have killed Russian Citizens, and they live next to RUSSIA, lol. They are insane... simply.

But about censorships, I love it. And you know why dear SO, because SOF can come, blast what ever, who ever, in the most brutal and martial way, and no fuckers in the country will know about it. It's called freedom to operate Darkside... and yes it's a frightening moment for everyone in place where such "black zone" become "hot". Hot and darkness... a preview of hell? Sooner or later the "conned" People will meet a thing, more deep, stable, secure and indestructible than anything they ever seen, it's called reality... And it's Wall is. If you want to cross it there is no other path, but death. hard I told you.

 
legendary
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January 02, 2015, 11:24:04 AM
The tops in the Ukrainian coup government are scared. Scared for the consequences of the atrocities they endorse, scared that the current part of nazism will come to an end. And it will come about as people of Ukraine (in Malorossia and Galicia, as Novorossians and Rusins already understand what's happening) will start to realise that they've been conned.
To prevent this, free speech is banned, journalists get attacked.

Newly journalists of LifeNes came under attack, and it was met with amiable silence in the West. The journalists were attacked by the members of the march, celebrating 106th birthday of butcher Stepan Bandera. Russian Ministry of Foreign affairs has issued a note of protest.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/01/02/zaharova/

Ukrainian tops also forbid anything that can bring even slightest hint of Russian, and even true Ukrainian though into the everyday life of the people, that will make them think.

Thusly, it was prohibited for TV channels to broadcast the New Year address of Putin.

A comedy, "Mammas 3" was prohibited because of a 1-minute sequence, where Ukrainian state censorship saw traces of "Russian chauvinism". The sequence was actually making fun of Russians and referencing Lenin's call in a humorous way.

Ukrainian minister threatens TV channel with closure for airing Russian entertainers
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/770231

Ukrainian censors also forbade Russian-made film, truthfully based on Malorossian author's Taras Shevchanko's work "Taras Bulba". Looks like the censors didn't read the book as it criticizes much of what current Ukrainian "ultra-partiots" try to pass for "true Ukrainian".

So yes, the nazis and their US handlers are scared and are employing the tactics that was used during the darkest times of German Nazism and Soviet Stalin's repressions - censorship.
legendary
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January 01, 2015, 08:08:32 AM
The passionate New Year address from Lada Ray:

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/31/happy-new-year-goodbye-2014-welcome-2015

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In 2013 I started FuturisTrendcast Blog with the intention of doing just that – sharing my wisdom, knowledge and predictions, opening people’s eyes, warning of dangers and helping them see the future. However, my non-confrontational nature didn’t allow me to go all out at first, and the blog sat basically idle for several months. By February 2014, the blog had 2,000 visitors and 10 subscribers, until… Ukraine happened and I understood, like Tolstoy once said, that I ‘cannot keep silent’ any more. At that point, fear became unimportant as I understood that something else, namely ‘the truth,’ was much more important than fear.

I watched with incredulity the craze happening on Kiev maidan, provoked deliberately to coincide with the time when Russia was preparing to host the Sochi Olympics, and it was clear to me that the West made sure Russia couldn’t interfere in Ukraine on any level for fear of the Olympics boycott. The ukro-nazi coup was timed and pushed through during Sochi Olympics for the same reason. Meanwhile, politicians from US, UK, Poland, Brussels and other EU countries flocked to Kiev maidan, where they called for violent overturn of Yanukovich and promoted hatred against Russia. People who disagreed in Kiev and western Ukraine were beaten, driven out of the country and killed. Russian language was initially banned and people speaking it prosecuted and intimidated in the country where the majority used to speak it every day. Openly fascist parties started dictating Ukraine’s policies and direct CIA assets usurped power in Kiev. In two or three short months Ukraine turned from a relatively normal place into a cesspool of the darkest and most violent kind. At the same time, the vilification of Russia and character assassination of the Russian leader reached the point of no return. Seeing all this I did what I do best: started writing to tell the truth and open people’s eyes.

FuturisTrendcast visitation and subscription exploded. Turned out, people all over the world craved knowledge and truth. Less than a year later, FuturisTrendcast boasts nearly 250,000 visitors and thousands of subscribers.

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December 30, 2014, 05:46:09 PM
Kiev continues to play with energy, at the cost of safety and people's lives.

Gas: Kiev decided not to pre-pay gas deliveries for January, so it seems they don't need gas in Ukraine. This may be a dire sign for Europe as transits might be compromised.

Nuclear power: Zaporozhje nuclear plant had indeed had a leak, with radiation levels exceeding 16x the normal level. More such disasters are expected.
http://lifenews.ru/news/147890
http://rt.com/news/218807-ukraine-nuclear-plant-leak/

And the killer-news. Yatsenjuk signed an agreement with American Westinghouse for deliveries of nuclear fuel rods, which are incompatible with the Russian standards, used in the power plants in Ukraine. Similar experiments with American rods resulted in a small disaster in Chechia, and several in Ukraine. Now, these rods will be used in even larger scale, and this may lead to many Chernobyl-class disasters in the coming months.
In Russian: http://tass.ru/politika/1681134

In English:
Moscow says Ukraine’s switch to US nuclear fuel threatens European safety
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/770082
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Experts fear the sharp switch from Russian-to US-produced nuclear fuel as it could pose a threat to the safety of Ukrainian nuclear power plants, which were built in the Soviet Union era

That's bad. I wonder what their contingency plans were.  Hope they are able to get it all cleaned up.
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December 30, 2014, 05:45:01 PM
Just in:

New Ukraine Budget Strips Services, Funds War. Ukrainians Hate It
Protests erupt as Ukraine's American finance minister unveils budget for 2015
http://russia-insider.com/en/2014/12/28/2169


Well they had to do something.
legendary
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December 30, 2014, 05:38:17 PM
Kiev continues to play with energy, at the cost of safety and people's lives.

Gas: Kiev decided not to pre-pay gas deliveries for January, so it seems they don't need gas in Ukraine. This may be a dire sign for Europe as transits might be compromised.

Nuclear power: Zaporozhje nuclear plant had indeed had a leak, with radiation levels exceeding 16x the normal level. More such disasters are expected.
http://lifenews.ru/news/147890
http://rt.com/news/218807-ukraine-nuclear-plant-leak/

And the killer-news. Yatsenjuk signed an agreement with American Westinghouse for deliveries of nuclear fuel rods, which are incompatible with the Russian standards, used in the power plants in Ukraine. Similar experiments with American rods resulted in a small disaster in Chechia, and several in Ukraine. Now, these rods will be used in even larger scale, and this may lead to many Chernobyl-class disasters in the coming months.
In Russian: http://tass.ru/politika/1681134

In English:
Moscow says Ukraine’s switch to US nuclear fuel threatens European safety
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/770082
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Experts fear the sharp switch from Russian-to US-produced nuclear fuel as it could pose a threat to the safety of Ukrainian nuclear power plants, which were built in the Soviet Union era
legendary
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December 30, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
I wrote a somewhat wrong number of Ukrainian guest workers in Russia. Per 2013 there were about 1.5 million of those, and only 500.000 of those are legal workers (that were paying taxes). According to Ukrainian sources, about 2 million Ukrainians worked in Russia in 2008 (and another 1.7 million in EU).

The consequences of the above law is more far-reaching, than meets the eye. Not only does it touch individual migrants, it also touches the economy of Ukraine, as about 25% of Ukrainian BNP comes from the income sent home by these workers (this number is total for all Ukrainians working abroad). This indirect subsidy of Ukrainian economy by Russia is now discontinued. Ukraine will also need to produce a lot more of those international passports for those, who would still like to work in Russia legally.

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December 30, 2014, 04:17:02 AM
Until now Ukrainians went to Russia to work, using their domestic passports and without seeking work permit. This preferential treatment that applied only to Ukraine will end on the 1st of January 2015.

Ukrainians will now be required to hold a valid international passport, and to apply for work permit, which in turn entails passing exams in Russian language and Russian history. (Those Ukrainians, who are currently in Russia as official refugees will get special treatment because of their difficult position.) Given that the majority of 500.000 Ukrainian guest workers come from Western Ukraine, the result of this law will be interesting to observe. This may reduce the flow of Ukrainians into Russia by 20-30%

http://izvestia.ru/news/581456


+1

good news
legendary
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December 29, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Until now Ukrainians went to Russia to work, using their domestic passports and without seeking work permit. This preferential treatment that applied only to Ukraine will end on the 1st of January 2015.

Ukrainians will now be required to hold a valid international passport, and to apply for work permit, which in turn entails passing exams in Russian language and Russian history. (Those Ukrainians, who are currently in Russia as official refugees will get special treatment because of their difficult position.) Given that the majority of 500.000 Ukrainian guest workers come from Western Ukraine, the result of this law will be interesting to observe. This may reduce the flow of Ukrainians into Russia by 20-30%

http://izvestia.ru/news/581456
legendary
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December 29, 2014, 11:42:29 AM
Just in:

New Ukraine Budget Strips Services, Funds War. Ukrainians Hate It
Protests erupt as Ukraine's American finance minister unveils budget for 2015
http://russia-insider.com/en/2014/12/28/2169
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legendary
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December 27, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Despite the blockade of Crimea (or maybe because of it, as Kiev is using it for blackmail), Russia is supplying Kiev with:
 - 9 billion kW of electricity and
 - 500000 to 1 million tonnes of coal, so that Ukraine won't freeze this winter.
All is done at Russian internal prices (in other words heavily discounted), and without demanding pre-payment (and we all know that Kiev does not pay - they steal, so this is a de-fact New Year present).

I am not exactly sure why Putin went to this step. On one hand he is showing to Malorossians (Novorossians are self-supplied with coal, while Galicians who are currently in control are beyond reasoning), who really helps Ukraine, and not just gives empty promises, like EU does. He also ensures that Malorossians and Russians in Ukraine do not freeze.

As Peskov said:

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“Against all the odds as President Putin said earlier in the hard times he had never given up the consistent policy towards supporting the Ukrainian people and providing real and not eventual support, due to the critical energy situation Putin took a decision on such supplies regardless the absence of prepayment, which is the condition of making them,”

On the other hand, he prolongs the suffering - freezing people of Ukraine would have been more likely to rise against the Galician usurpers in Kiev. Those usurpers, as I said, are beyond any reasoning, and will only think that they blackmail works, and drive Ukraine even deeper into the gutter.

http://rt.com/business/218103-russia-coal-electricity-ukraine/



Meanwhile, USA plans to relocate their lethal forces from Afghanistan to Ukraine, which raises a few eyebrows:

http://rt.com/news/218067-us-afghanistan-ukraine-weapons/

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Kabul is against Washington's alleged decision to transfer weapons and machinery left from its military mission in Afghanistan to Ukraine, an Afghan presidential administration official told TASS. The issue will be discussed with Obama, he added.

American specialists in Afghanistan are currently preparing US army MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicles to be transferred to Ukraine, according to the information obtained by the Afghan presidential administration. The US combat mission command refuses to discuss the issue with Kabul, saying the White House is in charge, a representative of Ashraf Ghani’s administration told the agency.

But, as everyone knows, in the end US always lies:

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Washington has previously ensured Kabul that the US military equipment and weapons, used by its combat mission in Afghanistan, will stay in the country to be employed by the Afghan army and law enforcement, according to the official. He added the country planned to use it in strengthening its fighting capabilities against Taliban forces in the country's south.
legendary
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December 22, 2014, 05:39:18 PM
Ukrainian gold: A control of Odessa branch of Ukrainian central bank revealed several ingots that turned out to be gold-plated lead. The swap happened sometime in August.

http://rt.com/business/216687-gold-missing-ukraine-bank/

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Cunning fraudsters have conned the Ukraine Central Bank branch in Odessa into buying $300,000 worth of gold which turned out to be lead daubed with gold paint.
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December 21, 2014, 10:58:36 PM
Great job ukrops

9 year old girl killed by mortar fire (eng subs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dVLGpSFTwrQ
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