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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 38. (Read 227096 times)

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Я тaк бaчy, тyт ктo-тo yжe caм c coбoй бaлaкaeт. Smiley Шизoфpeния oнa тaкaя, шo з нeй ни poбi, вcё paвнo кpышa paнo или пoзднo yeдeт)
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US parrots Kiev claims detained Russian journalists were ‘aiding terrorists’
http://rt.com/usa/160300-us-ukraine-russian-journalists/

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Washington has failed to condemn the detention of Russian journalists by Ukrainian troops, instead parroting Kiev’s accusations that they were abetting terrorists. The US appears to be biased in its attitude towards media professionals working in Ukraine.

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However Washington questions whether the detainees are journalists at all, despite their long records of working as media professionals.

“The Ukrainian Security Services, according to reports, have detained a number of people who were in possession of fake journalist credentials issued by the non-existent Donetsk People’s Republic,” US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said at a daily press briefing.

I wasn't expecting anything else from the US. They desperately need to get all "inconvenient" journalists out of Ukraine or silence them prior to the 25th.

There is a video, connected to this US statement, and I like one reader comment regarding it:

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JerryBear 21.05.2014 08:56

Given the money and effort the State dept has put into regime change in Ukraine, you'd think their press conferences would be very slick and persuasive events.

But they're not - they come across as singularly suspicious and 'shifty'.

I f the rest of the State dept is run like this, the wheels seem to have come off completely.

Looking at the other journalists in these conferences, they look confused to the point of disbelief.



OSCE sends 1000 observers and US sends about 1/10th of its observers to Ukraine. 11.4 million dollars are also transferred.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/377201

We also need to remember that the "wrong" journalists are arrested or deported.

One of the readers commented: "Will all these observers arrive with their own weapons, or will they be provided locally?"
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If anyone's wondering what happened above, Balthazar applied some troll repellent in Ukrainian.  Grin





The image is a brilliant trolling reversal. Some background first. Maidaners took to calling the South-Eastern resistance for "Colorado bugs" because of the striped nature of the St.George ribbon. They failed to learn geography, and thus didn't know that Colorado was in the USA. From there, if was just one step to this picture.

The text in the picture says: "The new history of Ukraine. Pest invasion from EU and US."

 Cool
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Balthazar aren`t the citizen of Ukraine, so I`m!
He вapтo бyти тaким кaтeгopичним. Hac тyт знaчнo бiльшe, нiж мoжe здaтиcя. Cheesy

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Ocь тiльки щo цe вce oзнaчaє? Звичaйнa втoмa? Шизoфpeнiя? A, мoжe, мaнiя пepecлiдyвaння мyчить? Cheesy Пiдcpaчник би нe зaвaдилo тoбi дaти, щoб дyмaв, щo пишeш... Iди i нe мiшaй дopocлим дядькaм. Tongue
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Balthazar aren`t the citizen of Ukraine, so I`m!
He вapтo бyти тaким кaтeгopичним. Hac тyт знaчнo бiльшe, нiж мoжe здaтиcя. Cheesy

динoзaвp, cтyли пeлькy и нe бaзикaй, мocкaлыкy.
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We all know the White house petitions, and the last petition regarding letting Alaska join Russia.

Now, there is a less joking petition for listing Russia in US list of countries aiding terrorists, and that petition go over 100000 votes, so the White house will need to respond.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/20/petition/

Regarding terrorism, let's not forget that Russia issued an Interpol arrest order of Yarosh for terrorist activities in Chechenija. Such international arrest orders are always well documented before being submitted. No one hastes to apprehend Yarosh. Moreover, he's the US-backed poster boy for becoming the next president of Ukraine. Now, who's aiding terrorists.

One of the commentators wrote that Ukrainian forums were spammed with links to this petition these past says.



All sized possessions of the current president of Ukraine, Yanukovich, will be auctioned away:
http://economics.unian.net/finance/919940-kabmin-pustit-s-molotka-imuschestvo-yanukovicha-i-ego-okrujeniya.html

Seems like the junta is trying to transfer the properties into their possession before the 25th....
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Now they don't have anymore excuses.

Ukraine confirms Russian troop pullout from border ahead of polls

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/europe/story/ukraine-confirms-russian-troop-pullout-border-ahead-polls-20140520
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NATO countries have promised Ukrainian authorities an "all-sided support".
http://ria.ru/world/20140520/1008531991.html

"The members of the council praised important Ukrainian role in giving peace and security to Europe and the world in the whole, assured the ukrainian delegatian of the continued support, and also pointed out continued readiness to intensify cooperation".

That was a quote! It almost sounded like sarcasm... or doublespeak.



Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs noted that elections on the 25th of May without prior military de-escalation and adherence to the Geneva roadmap will only lead to worsening of the situation in Ukraine:
http://www.bfm.ru/news/258510



Ukrainian border patrol noticed retraction of Russian troops after they inspected 820km stretch of the border, looking 10km into the Russian territory.
http://ria.ru/world/20140520/1008552363.html
In the meantime, NATO says there is no retractions, so obviously the Ukrainian's eyesight must be failing. Or the Ukrainians gave a hasty statement which does not conform to NATO guidelines.
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$200/week

Decent rates as well!

The average monthly wages in Ukraine are hovering around the € 120-150 mark right now, with the devaluation of Hryvina. They are paying more than 5 times the average monthly wage. 
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lol.... great news. Means a lot for the Ukrainians, who are suffering from record inflation and unemployment. Poroshenko and Tymoshenko might hire hundreds of unemployed posters (one of them I believe is active in this thread as well). Any idea how much they are paying?
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"For what <…> the majority of Ukrainians really lacked, then and later, was nationalism. Or patriotism, public spirit, national loyalty, national allegiance, whatever word you prefer: the sense that there was something special and unique about Ukraine, the feeling that Ukraine was worth fighting for," she writes.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_05_19/US-journalist-whitewashes-Ukrainian-neo-Nazism-claimes-American-democracy-based-on-nationalism-1179/

Oh, more than enough of that. Bandera is not the only one. There was Petljura before him...

Here is a revisionist article on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symon_Petliura

And something closer to history:
http://www.jta.org/1926/05/27/archive/semion-petlura-leader-of-ukrainian-pogrom-bands-killed-in-paris
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,731176,00.html

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On May 25, 1926 Petliura was slain with five shots from a handgun in broad daylight by the Russian anarchist of Jewish origin Sholom Schwartzbard in the center of Paris.

Yet, despite prosecution demanding death sentence for Schwartzbard, the jury cleared him of all charges, stating that "the killer of the murderer is innocent". During that court hearing many atrocities committed by Petlura and his bands came to light...

Now Jarosh, Kolomojskij, Ahmetov which to join the ignominiously glorious ranks of Petljura and Bandera....
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US journalist whitewashes Ukrainian neo-Nazism, claims American democracy based on nationalism

http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_05_19/US-journalist-whitewashes-Ukrainian-neo-Nazism-claimes-American-democracy-based-on-nationalism-1179/

Check this article below:

Nationalism Is Exactly What Ukraine Needs

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117505/ukraines-only-hope-nationalism
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Just read an interesting statement by Medvedev, that Russia is not going to guarantee territorial integrity of Ukraine as Russia never took such task upon itself or ratified any such agreements. What Russia need is to calm the situation down, to reach peace.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/05/140520_rn_medvedev_ukraine.shtml
He also says that let EU/US/NATO come with guarantees first about not involving themselves in the internal affairs of Ukraine, not dragging it into NATO, not forbid use of Russian language in the country, that people in the East won't get slaughtered by some Right Sector.

Sound like the Russian bear is starting to get angry growl... Smiley
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lol.... great news. Means a lot for the Ukrainians, who are suffering from record inflation and unemployment. Poroshenko and Tymoshenko might hire hundreds of unemployed posters (one of them I believe is active in this thread as well). Any idea how much they are paying?
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Interesting. My understanding of that order is that it was just a routine end of a routine spring military drills, with the troops returning to their regular dislocation points. Oh, well, if it helps the West.

EDIT: Yes, my assumption was correwect:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/05/140520_rn_russian_troops_shoigu.shtml

I guess NATO will bemoan Russian troops presence on Russian territory, until the troops are withdrawn to Urals and the road to Mosco is covered with red carpet with NATO logo. Smiley

There's been a development on the detained journalists:
Russian journalists arrested for breaking ‘Kiev’s UN-marked helicopters’ news – report
http://rt.com/news/160072-russian-journalists-ukraine-arrest/

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“The incident was discussed at the highest level. [SBU] was instructed to find the authors [of the footage] and to do everything not to allow them to work in those areas where the National Guard is deployed,” LifeNews quoted the source as saying.

#SaveOurGuys tops Russian Twitter, demands release of Ukraine-held journalists
http://rt.com/news/160108-saveourguys-hashtag-trending-twitter/
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At the summit of Big Eight Angela Merkel tried to tease Putin and said:
- Today I dreamed that I was appointed to be the president of Earth!
Obama assented:
- I dreamed that I was appointed president of the universe!
Putin sipped his coffee slowly and then calmly replied:
- I dreamed that I didn't approved anyone.

(C) Some russian youtuber, translation is mine.
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In Mariupol, street of the police station burned down, reports of multiple police killed, now renamed 'Heroes of 9 May'.



Outside Mariupol, a Ukrainian military vehicle reported involved in May 9 massacre bears Victory Day sticker:

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