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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 34. (Read 227096 times)

legendary
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It's better to run this "special operation" against Crimea, we're all waiting this. It would be the great way to succeed.

lol... the Kiev junta can't even prevent its soldiers from defecting in Donetsk and Lugansk. How they are going to get back Crimea?
Exactly.
legendary
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It's better to run this "special operation" against Crimea, we're all waiting this. It would be the great way to succeed.

lol... the Kiev junta can't even prevent its soldiers from defecting in Donetsk and Lugansk. How they are going to get back Crimea? The only option is to import mercenaries from the USA.
legendary
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There are reportedly shale gas deposits under Slavjansk and Kramotorsk, so Biden junior is hell bent on removing people from "his" land.

It's the only reason I see why they are concentrating so much heavy artillery fire power of these cities, and not on Lugansk and Donetsk.
legendary
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It's better to run this "special operation" against Crimea, we're all waiting this. It would be the great way to succeed.
legendary
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Valtsman (aka Poroshenko) said that special operation against East will continue:
http://ria.ru/world/20140526/1009397050.html

"The operation must change its shape: it must be shorter, more efficient, better equipped with weapons and ammunition." said Valtsman.

So, more blood, much more blood!
legendary
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At least in Crimea there was a decent turnout....
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
One has to just love the elections in those countries:
Crimea over 90% , Ukraine now with 85%.
Pretty sure the other provinces will have their own elections again with 80-90% in favor.


legendary
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Yeah, Saakashvili is an expert in genocide and destruction of own country, he would be the best choice.

The last time I heard, the Georgian government was considering to evaluate the mental state of Saakashvili, as he was showing signs of psychosis and schizophrenia. Poroshenko will never get a better advisor.
legendary
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Yeah, Saakashvili is an expert in genocide and destruction of own country, he would be the best choice.
legendary
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What?!

Klichko names Saakashvili as the probable candidate as Valtsman's (aka. Poroshenko's) adviser
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1215357?utm_medium=rss20

So, the whole gang's here! Saakashvili previously said that a raid take-over of Ukraine is being conducted. With him there, the circle will be complete, as Palpatine would have put it.

There is an open arrest warrant for Saakashvili in Georgia, so even though Klichko was told to say that Georgia and Ukraine are partners, I doubt Saakshvili will set foot there as part of any delegation.



In the meantime, an EU official promised Ukraine a Visum-free regime by the end of the year:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/377954



Klichko is going to be the mayor of Kiev, he already has over 56% of votes:
http://ria.ru/world/20140526/1009378930.html
legendary
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Ukrainian oligarch Poroshenko leading pres race with over 50% votes
http://rt.com/news/161416-ukraine-exit-polls-poroshenko/

For the record, the real name of Poroshenko is Valtsman.

He is making several mistakes already, judging by the following quotes:

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“My first presidential trip will be to Donbass,” Poroshenko said at a party briefing, using the popular name for the historical region in eastern Ukraine.

“We can now state firmly and with confidence – the whole Ukraine cast its vote, this is the choice of the whole Ukraine,” he said.

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Poroshenko promised that “we will have a united and unitary, not federative state.”

"I am certain that our decisive actions will bring fairly quick results," the 48-year stated without clarifying what these “actions” would entail, as earlier it was announced that Ukrainian troops are to resume what Kiev calls an “anti-terrorist” operation in eastern Ukraine.

He basically says that he will go to Donbass with arms, and that the main demand from the region - federalisation - will be ignored. Not a smart move.

I already read some speculations as to whether he'll be assassinated on his first trip there, so as to blame the resistance an launch a full-scale ruthless extermination of Donbass 5+ million population...

Yes, more manslaughter in sight...  Angry

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In the nearest future the “active phase of the anti-terrorist operation” will resume in the restive regions, the first deputy PM of Ukraine Vitaly Yarema vowed, claiming that Ukrainian armed forces have completely blocked off parts of the areas under the control of the self-defense forces in Lugansk and Donetsk regions.

Ukraine’s army has only temporarily halted its active actions, Yarema said, “so that the residents of the eastern areas could get to the polls and vote.”

Yet despite the promised calm, a number of armed clashes involving Ukrainian troops have been reported in the east of Ukraine on the day of the vote. The so-called “anti-terrorist” operation with the involvement of air forces and armored vehicles has been dragging for several months now, with dozens of people killed in the shelling – many of them civilians and even international journalists caught in the damage.

This is one more nail in the coffin of Ukraine. Sadly, this means more civilian deaths are coming.

For all intents and purposes, Poroshenko is the gauleiter of VUkraine, while NAUkraine didn't participate in the selections.
The terms VUkraine and NAUkraine are used to distinguish the Ukrainian speaking West (they use preposition "v" when saying "in Ukraine"), and the Russian-speaking East (where "na" is used, when saying "in Ukraine", literally "on Ukraine").
http://yablor.ru/blogs/dve-ukraini/3638493

A reader comment to one of the articles:

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Nirbijan Lastone 26.05.2014 07:44

Actually there is only one completely unrealistic scenario when Kiev can preserver Ukraine - arrest and try Kiev nazi for their crimes and all killings in Odessa and Donbass , negotiate with Donbass, change constitution, acknowledge Russian as equal state language and give autonomy to South East of Ukraine. But that will never happen , of course. So , Ukraine as a united state is finished
legendary
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CyberBerkut claims responsibility for crippling Ukraine’s electronic election system ahead of presidential vote:

http://rt.com/news/161332-ukraine-president-election-virus/

Elections in Ukraine will make things worse, not better - expert

http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_05_25/Elections-in-Ukraine-will-make-things-worse-not-better-expert-0152/
legendary
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Members of the election committee near Lugansk (Novoajdar) were executed by National guard ((p)residential candidate Yarosh's personal punitive battalion "Dnepr") for refusing to open the election point:
http://ria.ru/world/20140525/1009292969.html



In Makeevka, all ballots from Donetsk were burnt:
http://ria.ru/world/20140525/1009266828.html



Poroshenko (also known as Valtsman) just announced about his victory in the (s)elections, based on data from the exit polls:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/25/n_6180341.shtml

According to him 85% of people of Ukraine supported the "European choice of Ukraine".

85% of the Western and Central Ukraine, that is...
legendary
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Andrei Mironov, the journalist killed by Right Sector yesterday was well known all over the world, for his unbiased coverage of the Chechen War. May his soul rest in peace.

legendary
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Heavy presence of Right Sector extremists outside most of the polling stations in Western and Central Ukraine. They are intimidating people who want to vote for opposition candidates.


legendary
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Press-conference of the Life-News journalists, release from the National Guard terrorist captivity.

See also:
http://ria.ru/society/20140525/1009245319.html
sr. member
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legendary
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Flag of Novorosiya federative state:



The bottom ribbon says "liberty and labor!".

Nice flag!



Ukrainian (p)residential elections have started:

Ukraine presidential election LIVE UPDATES
http://rt.com/news/161360-ukraine-presidential-election-timeline/

http://www.interfax.ru/world/377848

Ballots "could not be delivered" to Novorossia:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/25/n_6179025.shtml

Only 6 election stations are open in the Donetsk area:
http://www.fontanka.ru/2014/05/25/014/



Italian MFA confirmed the death of Italian journalist near Slavjansk:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/25/italia/



Public network "Pillar" has registered 360 cases of violations during teh firsthours of voting:
http://ria.ru/world/20140525/1009249965.html



Journalists of LifeNews told about cruelties they were subject to during imprisonment:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/25/story/



There are no OSCE observers in Donetsk and Luhansk:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1214099?utm_medium=rss20
legendary
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I know what I am talking about, people there are very different there, mentality, culture, everyting, it s just a historical accident that made them living in one country called "Ukraine" the east part is 99% russians also as the Crimea, so I don't see any problems in deviding into two parts!!!

Yes. Eastern Ukrainians and Western Ukrainians are poles apart. Everything is different, religion, politics and even cuisine. During the Soviet times, the country was kept united through the Communist suppression. It is no longer possible now.
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