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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 40. (Read 227096 times)

legendary
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http://rt.com/news/159640-ukraine-gunmen-nuclear-plant/

Gunmen attempt to enter Ukraine’s largest nuclear power plant

 Huh

I've seen a few alleged preparation by the Right Sector to take control of the power plants. I hope no one gets in.
Nuclear power plants is one thing not to be trifled with.
legendary
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http://rt.com/news/159640-ukraine-gunmen-nuclear-plant/

Gunmen attempt to enter Ukraine’s largest nuclear power plant

 Huh
legendary
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Nulandistan update
http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/159368-political-disaster-nuland-ukraine/

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A political disaster planned and funded by Washington is entering a new and even Orwellian stage. What is Victoria Nuland's impact on the Ukrainian crisis? Is there a peaceful resolution of the crisis? And what is on Nuland's mind?

A very interesting half-hour talk-show. Cheesy
legendary
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The war-crazy American public might be supporting the Obama and the CIA to invade Ukraine, but the majority of the European population remains opposed to any military intervention.

Italian Peace Activists to Protest Against EU Support For Ukraine

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140516/189873815/Italian-Peace-Activists-to-Protest-Against-EU-Support-For.html
hero member
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in defi we trust
Every single supporter of the Kiev-junta should read this article:

Sorry America, Ukraine isn’t all about you

http://pando.com/2014/05/14/sorry-america-the-ukraine-isnt-all-about-you/

Yes, and on that note another article:

Shale gas and politics: Are Western energy giants’ interests behind Ukraine violence?
http://rt.com/news/159588-east-ukraine-shale-deposits/


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These are future profits that Kiev doesn’t want to lose.

“I would say that the economic interest in this case is what’s driving the coup regime in Kiev to launch military actions against its own citizens, because they stand to make a profit from these contracts signed by the previous government,” foreign affairs expert Nebojsa Malic commented to RT.

US energy giant Chevron signed a similar deal for $10 billion last year, but it is focusing on developing shale gas reserves in the West of Ukraine.


I love the way rt writes it's news Smiley
legendary
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Every single supporter of the Kiev-junta should read this article:

Sorry America, Ukraine isn’t all about you

http://pando.com/2014/05/14/sorry-america-the-ukraine-isnt-all-about-you/

Yes, and on that note another article looking at it from a not so domestic angle:

Shale gas and politics: Are Western energy giants’ interests behind Ukraine violence?
http://rt.com/news/159588-east-ukraine-shale-deposits/
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1217
Every single supporter of the Kiev-junta should read this article:

Sorry America, Ukraine isn’t all about you

http://pando.com/2014/05/14/sorry-america-the-ukraine-isnt-all-about-you/
hero member
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in defi we trust
This is quite interesting... no wonder that they are opposed to Russia.

'Gay Nazis' Behind Ukrainian Unrest

http://www.advocate.com/world/2014/05/16/putin-claims-gay-nazis-behind-ukrainian-unrest

A few misconceptions at the end of the article are still being indoctrinated by the Western press.

By the way, what is LGBT? Is it a medical diagnosis, like AHDH?  Grin

I really din't want to say it ...but it is indeed some kind of disorder Smiley.
legendary
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This is quite interesting... no wonder that they are opposed to Russia.

'Gay Nazis' Behind Ukrainian Unrest

http://www.advocate.com/world/2014/05/16/putin-claims-gay-nazis-behind-ukrainian-unrest

A few misconceptions at the end of the article are still being indoctrinated by the Western press.

By the way, what is LGBT? Is it a medical diagnosis, like AHDH?  Grin
legendary
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This is quite interesting... no wonder that they are opposed to Russia.

'Gay Nazis' Behind Ukrainian Unrest

http://www.advocate.com/world/2014/05/16/putin-claims-gay-nazis-behind-ukrainian-unrest
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legendary
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You are saying something there...

EU stated today that the sanctions against Russia will not touch the energy sector.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/16/sanctions1/
[sarcasm]Oh, thank you very much, EU, you are so generous![/sarcasm]



The court of appeal in Ukraine sustained ban on transmission of 4 Russian TV channels on Ukrainian territory:
http://www.newsru.com/world/16may2014/russiantv.html
legendary
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Honestly, the Germans still don't know which side they are on.  Grin

Germany welcomes Ukraine talks but warns of human rights abuses

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/16/us-ukraine-germany-rights-idUSBREA4F08P20140516
legendary
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There is only one major difference between USA and USSR. Constitution of USA doesn't provide a right to secede, while USSR constitution provided a possibility of such procedure. This difference makes a peaceful dissolution almost impossible.

That you think the USSR constitution was followed, or even meant something, is very telling... Sad

You are right there. It was not followed at least on one very telling occasion: when Crimea was transferred from RSFSR to UkSSR. Wink

It was not followed on any occasions. USSR didn't have a democracy.

Oh my God, who's telling what constitution was followed?  Grin Of course it wasn't followed, just like US constitution. It's only about theoretical possibility of dissolution.

Let's see: Freedom of the press unabridged - check. Separation of church and state - check. Can't house troops in people's houses - check. Can't incriminate yourself - check. ETC. ETC. ETC. As much as you want to compare, most of the US constitution is actually being followed, even if certain parts are being rather "stretched." And the people who do stretch them are being voted on, and thus risk getting kicked out (though not any more). In USSR, no one cared about the constitution. Hell, most people didn't even know it existed. Totalitarian communist leaders could just do whatever they wanted, and if it went against the constitution, they could just change it later. There really is no comparison, despite how much as you'd love to believe that USA was as bad as USSR.
P.S. Not saying USA is great, and it's kind of slipping into the same BS, but it's still nowhere near as bad.
legendary
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After the Russians, it is the turn of the Magyars. After them, it will be the Romanians and Bulgarians.

Hungarian PM Orbán demands autonomy for Hungarians in Ukraine

http://www.portfolio.hu/en/economy/hungarian_pm_orban_demands_autonomy_for_hungarians_in_ukraine.27766.html

Ukraine Is Urged to Extend Autonomy for Ethnic Hungarians

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-12/ukraine-is-urged-to-extend-autonomy-for-ethnic-hungarians.html

If this goes on , the whole map will be like a broken puzzle.
And once Ukraine is finished we should start splitting Romania , next Bulgaria and maybe Serbia once more?
We should include Romania into Hungary, because Romania was created by puppets of Ottoman empire using stolen hungarian lands.

You seem to be very much pro "force countries together, even if by force, because the regions were historically one, even if the people and cultures slit up due to irreconcilable differences." Very imperialistic and Soviet of you.

As for history, there is a whole shitload of distortions and lies on this thread. I have a feeling a lot of the posters here have only learned Soviet/Russian revisionist made-up bullshit that, obviously, would suggest that everything was part of Russia at some point.
legendary
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There is only one major difference between USA and USSR. Constitution of USA doesn't provide a right to secede, while USSR constitution provided a possibility of such procedure. This difference makes a peaceful dissolution almost impossible.

That you think the USSR constitution was followed, or even meant something, is very telling... Sad
Oh my God, who's telling what constitution was followed?  Grin Of course it wasn't followed, just like US constitution. It's only about theoretical possibility of dissolution.
legendary
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What Ukraine’s economy looks like without its Russian-speaking regions

http://qz.com/209081/what-ukraines-economy-looks-like-without-its-russian-speaking-regions/

Is there a similar article for what Britain's economy looks like without its english speaking regions (including USA, Canada, India, South Africa, and Australia)? I mean, that IS what is being implied, right? That if the people speak the same language, then they still belong to the main country?
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
There is only one major difference between USA and USSR. Constitution of USA doesn't provide a right to secede, while USSR constitution provided a possibility of such procedure. This difference makes a peaceful dissolution almost impossible.

That you think the USSR constitution was followed, or even meant something, is very telling... Sad

You are right there. It was not followed at least on one very telling occasion: when Crimea was transferred from RSFSR to UkSSR. Wink
legendary
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Some sane voices do exist in Western Europe.  Grin

EU policy to blame for Ukraine crisis - Ex-Chancellor Schroeder

http://rt.com/news/158432-schroeder-russia-sanctions-eu/

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Germany’s former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has blamed European Union policy for the current situation in Ukraine and urged the West to stop focusing on new sanctions against Russia. In Schroeder’s opinion, the EU’s fundamental mistake - that subsequently led to the ongoing crisis in Ukraine – was its association policy, he said in an interview with German newspaper Welt am Sonntag published Sunday.

That's kind of a stupid statement. He is blaming the existence of a group of countries that have economic agreements, that were good enough that Ukraine wanted to join in, on what happened in Ukraine? I would have blamed whoever it was that was trying to prevent Ukraine from joining the thing they waned to join. I mean, it's almost like blaming the store a person was trying to get to for that person getting mugged, and not the mugger that prevented that person from getting to the store.

Ukraine also wanted to join the Customs Union. Russia said, fine, we can talk about it. EU said, no way, choose either us or them.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
There is only one major difference between USA and USSR. Constitution of USA doesn't provide a right to secede, while USSR constitution provided a possibility of such procedure. This difference makes a peaceful dissolution almost impossible.

That you think the USSR constitution was followed, or even meant something, is very telling... Sad
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