Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 78.

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 06, 2014, 04:23:59 PM

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-donetsk-protest-russia-733/

Pro-Russian protesters seize govt buildings in Ukraine's Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov

Finally they did this

Any idea about the crowd size? The biased BBC will always say that there were only a few dozen or at the most a few hundred.

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 06, 2014, 07:44:20 PM

P.S. I would prefer to vote for Darth Vader, but his registration attempt was rejected Angry

Darth Vader filed a court case on the election committee, citing his removal from presidential election run uncosntitutional:
http://ria.ru/world/20140407/1002817615.html

In one of reader comments, I read that Darth is the only candidate that can be acceptable to both the Eastern and Western regions of the country.

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It doesn't matter who will become a president, because there are no differences between these candidates. All of them came from the "old" power and all of them are populist, corrupt figures without any real political program. They even worse than Yanukovich because he had a program, at least... Roll Eyes

P.S. I would prefer to vote for Darth Vader, but his registration attempt was rejected Angry

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Who you think is gonna be there new president? I am really interesting to hear any opinion

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People of Donbass issued an ultimatum: until midnight April 6 an emergency session of deputies must set a date for the referendum on independence. If this does not happen, then by noon April 7 people will take down the authorities and assign the date without their help.

I like their methods... Cheesy

Seriously, if nazis are allowed to establish a junta, then why Donetsk and another regions aren't allowed to do the same Cheesy

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 06, 2014, 04:23:59 PM

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-donetsk-protest-russia-733/

Pro-Russian protesters seize govt buildings in Ukraine's Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov

Finally they did this

Show must go on...

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Seriously, Ukrainians need to re take Kiev by any means and ask Russia for help. (no need to be part of russia if they don't want to but can be very strong allies so no one mess with Ukraine again) The usa and the EU only wants to use Ukraine for strategic purposes and the gas / power pipelines control,, BUT seems they lost interest because Crimea (power pipelines control) got annexed with Russia

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http://rt.com/news/ukraine-donetsk-protest-russia-733/

Pro-Russian protesters seize govt buildings in Ukraine's Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov

Finally they did this

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on April 06, 2014, 08:09:35 AM

‘100% sure Berkut police didn’t shoot people in Kiev’ – ex-Ukrainian interior minister

More than half of those died were either policemen or pro-Russians. It is just retarded to blame the Berkut for all this.

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‘100% sure Berkut police didn’t shoot people in Kiev’ – ex-Ukrainian interior minister

http://rt.com/news/snipers-ukraine-maidan-berkut-613/

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“Berkut riot police were without their service weapons. On February 18 and 19, 86 police officers were wounded by gunshots. Fourteen of them died. They were internal troops, military, Berkut, and traffic police, who were shot at their post checkpoint,” he said.

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“It’s clear for any reasonable person that if it were the law enforcement officers who opened fire, they would’ve probably been advancing. That would’ve been the reason to use firearms. Meanwhile, they began retreating after the killing of their troops began,” he said.

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Looks like the revolution continues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dkS-qVz3c

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Headquarters of self-defence of South-East addressed citizens of our regions. This night arrests of our activists were conducted. Cleansing and searches continue. Militia betrays us. I, Bulatov Valeij Dmitrievich, am heading public organisation "Union of veterans of airborn troops of Lugansk region". Was personally involved in collecting and delivering funds to the wounded fighters of Berkut and ABN soldiers. I hope that Ministry of Inernal Affairs still has people of honour, who will truly go with the people. I rally the people of South-East to go with open opposition. Everything that was planend for the 6th of Aprisl must be realised. We must not back off. This is our land.

This is pretty much open to interpretation. Any internet video should be taken with a healthy dose of scepticism. What is known, however, is that people in South-East are fed up with the American rule over Ukraine through a proxy government. How that state of mind is used or abused, well, history will show. The whole situation in Ukraine is bordering on absurd now.

In the meantime, the coup government in Kiev is screaming that they don't like the new non-discounted price for gas and threaten to go to the international court in Stockholm over it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/04/140405_rn_ukraine_russia_gas.shtml
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1099474?utm_medium=rss20

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 03, 2014, 07:55:17 AM

By the way, Ukrainian constitution already has such definition of the marriage in the article #51.

They'll be forced to change it, by the EU.

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 03, 2014, 06:05:55 AM

Concept of marriage, as a union of man and woman, is proposed to add into the Constitution

http://www.ridus.ru/news/157631

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Igor Zotov, PM and head of the Russian Party of Pensioners, offers to prescribe in the Constitution the concept of marriage as a "union between a man and a woman".

The deputy said that it is necessary for the protection of traditional Russian values, which are threatened due to recent world trends.

By the way, Ukrainian constitution already has such definition of the marriage in the article #51.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 03, 2014, 07:06:50 AM

Ukraine can never ever function as a united country. The only option left is partition.

That's not quite right. The completely new regime, based on social-taylorism or similar conception, would be able to make this configuration sustainable. Though, there are no respected political figures which could follow this way in the Ukraine. Another option is transformation of currently dead unitary state into the soft federation.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on April 03, 2014, 06:26:13 AM

I lean more towards the third option, as the most probable, given previous history.

It'll never happen. The eastern Ukrainians hate their western countrymen and vice-versa so much that it even puts the Arab-Jewish rivalry to shame. Ukraine can never ever function as a united country. The only option left is partition.

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Just noticed that RT conducts polls. The current results to their question are a bit worrying. People are insecure of the future development:

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How will the US and Russia proceed amid the Ukraine crisis?

   24% - A compromise will be finally worked out, as happened with Syria and Iran
   26% - Political bluster will continue, as neither country will be ready for compromise
   18% - As Ukraine achieves greater stability, both powers will de-escalate the standoff
   32% - Tensions will worsen, with a Cuban-style nuclear standoff between NATO and Russia

I lean more towards the third option, as the most probable, given previous history.

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Concept of marriage, as a union of man and woman, is proposed to add into the Constitution

http://www.ridus.ru/news/157631

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Igor Zotov, PM and head of the Russian Party of Pensioners, offers to prescribe in the Constitution the concept of marriage as a "union between a man and a woman".

The deputy said that it is necessary for the protection of traditional Russian values, which are threatened due to recent world trends.

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Quote from: Balthazar on April 03, 2014, 02:36:25 AM

Navalny's Lawyers recognized him as insane

http://www.ridus.ru/news/157336

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Blogger lawyers argue that after reading an article from the famous news portal their client has got a mind damage, becoming insane.

I knew there was something off with that guy Cheesy

To wrap up the gay topic with a cartoon:

Lithuanian schools diaries replace ‘mother, father’ with ‘Parent 1, Parent 2’

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Quote from: TheIrishman on March 14, 2014, 10:40:15 AM

Russia issues warning after fatal clashes in Ukraine city of Donetsk

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/russia-warning-fatal-clashes-ukraine-donetsk-protect-compatriots

<< Moscow declares right to "protect compatriots" and accuses Kiev over violence between pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian protesters. >>

Russia censors media by blocking websites and popular blog

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/russia-bans-alexei-navalny-blog-opposition-news-websites

<< Media watchdog adds Alexei Navalny blog and opposition news sites to banned list amid ongoing Ukraine crisis. >>

Quote from: Balthazar on March 14, 2014, 10:53:19 AM

Oh yep, Navalny... What would we have done without Him and His love?

I really don't like censorship, but... This Alexei Navalny (mostly well known as "Analny") really bothered everyone already... I remember his stupid propaganda and hypocricy during the mayor elections...

Actually it seemed like a Jehowah Witnesses sect. Grin

Stickers and zombies almost everywhere, and I even wasn't able to park in my usual spot without getting his stupid sticker (like these red ones) on the windshield! Angry

That's fine if he finally got banned.

Navalny's Lawyers recognized him as insane

http://www.ridus.ru/news/157336

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Blogger lawyers argue that after reading an article from the famous news portal their client has got a mind damage, becoming insane.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 09:31:02 PM

Quote from: st4nl3y on April 02, 2014, 03:42:15 PM

apparently in the uk, married gay partners can actually adopt a kid! imagine being raised by two males LOL this must be so confusing. btw, uk has everything backwards and other side around.

Personally I don't have anything against gays. But gay adoption is risky. I have read research findings that 60% of the gay foster-parents are likely to sexually abuse their adopted children, against just 3% of the heterosexual couples. That is a startling figure and no amount of political correctness can mask it.

+1

if someone is gay and wants to live with their partner i dont have anything against.

But child adoption...NO.

Lesbians don't have problems... if they want a child they have options ( in virto fert.)
but child need mum so 2 men....NO

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Quote from: st4nl3y on April 02, 2014, 03:42:15 PM

apparently in the uk, married gay partners can actually adopt a kid! imagine being raised by two males LOL this must be so confusing. btw, uk has everything backwards and other side around.

Personally I don't have anything against gays. But gay adoption is risky. I have read research findings that 60% of the gay foster-parents are likely to sexually abuse their adopted children, against just 3% of the heterosexual couples. That is a startling figure and no amount of political correctness can mask it.

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