So Mclared said they never aimed for the driver championship but only for the Constructor championship.
So why they swapped position in the sprint race and in the race if they do not wanted Norris fighiting with Max?
Anyway super race from Max, he is on another lever under rain even if he got 1 more set of fresh tyres due the failed qualifying.
So with the mistake got an huge advantage.
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November 04, 2024, 04:18:45 PM
There is no doubt that Max Verstappen showed why he is the best driver on the track, dude is just on another level. While all other drivers drove very carefully for fear of crashing, and some also crashing anyways, he drove the car like a true racer and took that risk and with his talent he kept the car going as well. While I do agree that Alpine did a great job, they used luck a bit more, and they were really looking like this weather helps them a lot. At this point they do not have a car, they have a boat 
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Norris must be feeling quite sad after this race, there are like three races left if I remember right and that means there won't be that much time left for him to win the title, doesn't feel like that will happen. I am not saying it is going to be impossible, the math is there and it could be a possible situation. Right now the gap between them is 62, and that means with 3 races left, if Norris gets wins on all of them, that would be 75 points, and if Max gets only 12 or less points in three races that would be Norris win. But if Max gets a podium again, the season is over. I believe Max already won the title already, the rest is just waiting but with this race he already got it.
.Norris must be feeling quite sad after this race, there are like three races left if I remember right and that means there won't be that much time left for him to win the title, doesn't feel like that will happen. I am not saying it is going to be impossible, the math is there and it could be a possible situation. Right now the gap between them is 62, and that means with 3 races left, if Norris gets wins on all of them, that would be 75 points, and if Max gets only 12 or less points in three races that would be Norris win. But if Max gets a podium again, the season is over. I believe Max already won the title already, the rest is just waiting but with this race he already got it.
November 04, 2024, 03:32:01 PM
What is it with Verstappen, the Brazil track and the rain? He also had a brilliant race in the same track, under the same weather conditions and had one of his most brilliant performances.
Anyway... What is it? Is it skill, talent or just luck? The guy who qualified on pole says it's just luck. Not really sure if it's salt or what, but yeah...
https://iili.io/2xTKYb9.md.jpg
On to the next race, I guess. Lolol.
Some luck is definitely needed to be in right place on right time. But you need skills for such performances. 9 of 10 fastest laps during race were made by Max. He also had a brilliant race in the same track, under the same weather conditions and had one of his most brilliant performances. Anyway... What is it? Is it skill, talent or just luck? The guy who qualified on pole says it's just luck.
Not really sure if it's salt or what, but yeah...https://iili.io/2xTKYb9.md.jpg
On to the next race, I guess. Lolol.
Norris is salty. He is blaming rule about free tyre change during red flag. But this rule was there for ages.
P.S. Hate when someone use black and white photos. First thing which comes to my mind when I see it that someone has passed away
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November 04, 2024, 10:22:01 AM
That is true, but Jorge Martin does not have to fight for the podium again in the last race of the season, meaning Jorge Martin only needs to finish in the top four, both in the Sprint and in the full race in Barcelona Catalunya later. While Bagnaia has to fight for the first position both in the sprint and in the full race because he is already so far behind because of the crash in the Sprint in Malaysia yesterday that it has made it so difficult for him this season.
Exactly, Bagnaia has to win both races one way and have to wait for Martin to make a mistake. Which he probably won't make, that would be more than stupid of him to go on the attack, it's enough to finish in the front of the field, because Bagnaia also has to win both races first.
If Bagnaia wins again, he will probably be the first rider to win more than 10 times in a season but not get world champion. Bagnai has simply made too many mistakes of his own since the German Grand Prix, and as the reigning world champion he has to take himself to task.
The task for Martin is easier so he should not force himself to win the race because he needs to collect 14 points only in the last race or simply winning the sprint race will secure the title.
Although the feel will be much better for such a rider to win the world champion and win the race at the same time but I think Martin should be realistic because if he forces himself too much then it may lead him into a mistake.
It would be really bad if Martin will not be able to win the world championship title this season because he is absolutely in bigger advantage than Pecco.
November 04, 2024, 09:58:05 AM
That is true, but Jorge Martin does not have to fight for the podium again in the last race of the season, meaning Jorge Martin only needs to finish in the top four, both in the Sprint and in the full race in Barcelona Catalunya later. While Bagnaia has to fight for the first position both in the sprint and in the full race because he is already so far behind because of the crash in the Sprint in Malaysia yesterday that it has made it so difficult for him this season.
Exactly, Bagnaia has to win both races one way and have to wait for Martin to make a mistake. Which he probably won't make, that would be more than stupid of him to go on the attack, it's enough to finish in the front of the field, because Bagnaia also has to win both races first.
If Bagnaia wins again, he will probably be the first rider to win more than 10 times in a season but not get world champion. Bagnai has simply made too many mistakes of his own since the German Grand Prix, and as the reigning world champion he has to take himself to task.
November 04, 2024, 09:36:44 AM
Before the race, nobody had predicted that Verstappen would win, but he delivered one of the best performances I’ve seen recently, securing his first victory after 133 days. With this victory, Verstappen is now very close to becoming a world champion. In fact, Verstappen's mockery of the British press after the race was a sign that he is now relaxed.
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November 04, 2024, 07:36:42 AM
With today's victory, Bagnaia has postponed the World Championship fight to the last race, but the chances due to yesterday's crash, I classify only theoretically, Martin will not be able to take the World Championship title, unless something unexpected happens, because he only has to finish with points.
That is true, but Jorge Martin does not have to fight for the podium again in the last race of the season, meaning Jorge Martin only needs to finish in the top four, both in the Sprint and in the full race in Barcelona Catalunya later. While Bagnaia has to fight for the first position both in the sprint and in the full race because he is already so far behind because of the crash in the Sprint in Malaysia yesterday that it has made it so difficult for him this season. 
November 04, 2024, 07:16:01 AM
What is it with Verstappen, the Brazil track and the rain? He also had a brilliant race in the same track, under the same weather conditions and had one of his most brilliant performances.
Anyway... What is it? Is it skill, talent or just luck? The guy who qualified on pole says it's just luck. Not really sure if it's salt or what, but yeah...
On to the next race, I guess. Lolol.
He also had a brilliant race in the same track, under the same weather conditions and had one of his most brilliant performances. Anyway... What is it? Is it skill, talent or just luck? The guy who qualified on pole says it's just luck.
Not really sure if it's salt or what, but yeah...On to the next race, I guess. Lolol.
November 03, 2024, 11:27:26 PM
What an unbelievable race. Both Alpines on the podium, Max from P17 to P1, Norris finally finishing P6, Colapinto crashing, 2 red flags, and many other unexpected events. I can say this was a really exciting race, full of strategy, and really draining emotions. And after this race it seems that Max's path to get the WDC is getting wider, seeing how the gap with Norris is getting bigger and there are only a few races left. For Ferrari themselves, they still have a chance to get the WCC, but only if in the next few races both of their drivers score good points.
November 03, 2024, 06:23:02 PM
A very unexpected podium Today, after a poor qualifying, Max Verstappen still won, very unexpected, but a big step towards the world championship.
For Williams it was a very bad and above all expensive weekend, both chassis probably totally damaged.
For Williams it was a very bad and above all expensive weekend, both chassis probably totally damaged.
Max Verstappen showed a spectacular performance in the last GP... he started from 17th position, overtook everyone even in the pouring rain on the Interlagos circuit and won the 21st GP with a great time, which lasted an incredible 2 hours and 27 minutes. Alpine also surprised me and deservedly took the podium with Esteban Ocon and Pierry Gasly finishing in second and third place.
I am Brazilian and I would have loved to have seen this spectacle in person, even in the rain. It was a very exciting GP.
It was the second time in a row that Verstappen won in Brazil and, in addition, ended a drought of ten races and four months without winning. Now he is still in the fight for the title with the recent 26 points won, with a total of 393 against Norris's 331.
November 03, 2024, 06:20:08 PM
Bye to the title from Norris after this race.
A lot of thing happened.
Colpainto overtaking Hamilton.
Both Alpine in the podium.
Stroll going out in the formation lap.
Wrong start for half of the grid when the start was aborted.
Winnint from 17 position to 1st.
A black flag.
One thing is sure, Ferrari is very weak under rain and this was the hardest track for them in the paper.
They can still win the title.
A lot of thing happened.
Colpainto overtaking Hamilton.
Both Alpine in the podium.
Stroll going out in the formation lap.
Wrong start for half of the grid when the start was aborted.
Winnint from 17 position to 1st.
A black flag.
One thing is sure, Ferrari is very weak under rain and this was the hardest track for them in the paper.
They can still win the title.
November 03, 2024, 01:38:52 PM
A very unexpected podium Today, after a poor qualifying, Max Verstappen still won, very unexpected, but a big step towards the world championship.
For Williams it was a very bad and above all expensive weekend, both chassis probably totally damaged.
For Williams it was a very bad and above all expensive weekend, both chassis probably totally damaged.
November 03, 2024, 01:25:21 PM
Mclaren looking strong once again, Norris needs to really give all he has and finish the race first, the last three races still could change so much, we are talking about one crash away from a single race, I understand the look right now isn't amazing, but with sprint race and Sunday race, we could talk about amazing results for Norris this weekend. That gap could drop down to one race gap, like 47 points right now if I am not wrong, an 8 points from sprint, and 25 points in the race would mean 33 points total, if Max gets a total of 14 points or less this weekend, which looks quite likely, then we could end up with just a race difference. Max finishing not so high is quite likely but I do not know what Norris will be doing.
November 03, 2024, 09:36:02 AM
With today's victory, Bagnaia has postponed the World Championship fight to the last race, but the chances due to yesterday's crash, I classify only theoretically, Martin will not be able to take the World Championship title, unless something unexpected happens, because he only has to finish with points.
November 03, 2024, 08:41:43 AM
Never seen so many red flag in a qualify.
We got 6 red flags, 2 hours session when it was to supposed to be 1, few destroyed cars.
Some teams like Williams needs to rebuild 2 cars in 3 hours, can even they make it in time? improbable.
Max 17th
Hamilton 16th
Sains 14th
Norris 1st.
Piatrsi 10th.
Rain is expected with 80% of probability. It will be crazy.
We got 6 red flags, 2 hours session when it was to supposed to be 1, few destroyed cars.
Some teams like Williams needs to rebuild 2 cars in 3 hours, can even they make it in time? improbable.
Max 17th
Hamilton 16th
Sains 14th
Norris 1st.
Piatrsi 10th.
Rain is expected with 80% of probability. It will be crazy.
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November 03, 2024, 01:18:32 AM
After Pecco dominated since Friday starting from free pratice to qualification and he takes the pole position, but unfortunately he crashed today on sprint race which make the gap to Martin bigger.
There are some possible scenario for Martin to lock the World title tomorrow, the key is that Martin should earn 9 points more than Pecco in the main race tomorrow.
Will we able to see new MotoGP champion tomorrow or will we need to wait until the last race? I myself want to see the champion in the last race because if Martin will be able to lock the World title tomorrow then the last race will be a bit less attractive to watch although I want to see Martin secure it as fast as possible
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I also want to see a satellite team from any manufacturer to be able to become world champion in the MotoGP class because so far we have only seen the main factory team that has always succeeded in becoming world champion in the MotoGP class since the last time it was done by Valentino Rossi in 2001. So for this season I also want to see a new champion with a newer team, namely a satellite team so that there is a new aura in MotoGP today. And for today it seems like Pecco will experience quite heavy pressure because he has to win the race in any condition so that the determination of the world champion this season is focused on the last MotoGP series which will be held in Barcelona (as a replacement for Valencia). There are some possible scenario for Martin to lock the World title tomorrow, the key is that Martin should earn 9 points more than Pecco in the main race tomorrow.
Will we able to see new MotoGP champion tomorrow or will we need to wait until the last race? I myself want to see the champion in the last race because if Martin will be able to lock the World title tomorrow then the last race will be a bit less attractive to watch although I want to see Martin secure it as fast as possible
. November 02, 2024, 05:56:30 PM
so in the end Max got a penalty again for VSF infringement, what a dumb move he did.
Good for the wolrd championship.
As expected Ferrari is weak on this track, rain may help them due the higher variance added to the race.
Qualify has been postponed to 10.30 am tomorrow local time If I read correctly, (due heavy rain and scarcity of light for today evening time)
Good for the wolrd championship.
As expected Ferrari is weak on this track, rain may help them due the higher variance added to the race.
Qualify has been postponed to 10.30 am tomorrow local time If I read correctly, (due heavy rain and scarcity of light for today evening time)
November 02, 2024, 03:12:07 PM
I do not expect Perez to leave at these last races, there aren't any races left enough to make that transition worth it at all. The change should be next season probably, we are going to see Perez out of the league completely as well, and we are going to see Colapinto start at Red Bull. Perez is not just leaving red bull, he is leaving formula 1 all together, he has been so terrible for the past two seasons that no team would ever want him anymore.
Max Verstappen is literally racing all by himself at this point, maybe that is a curse, being teammates with Max, maybe the car is terrible and what Perez does with that car is what any normal driver can do and Max is just insanely good and makes the team look better than they are, Colapinto racing and being terrible and so much worse would show that. In the end it's their car and their team so if they decide to fire Perez then the yare right. The results have been terrible so far and Perez needs to go, they need a change.
Max Verstappen is literally racing all by himself at this point, maybe that is a curse, being teammates with Max, maybe the car is terrible and what Perez does with that car is what any normal driver can do and Max is just insanely good and makes the team look better than they are, Colapinto racing and being terrible and so much worse would show that. In the end it's their car and their team so if they decide to fire Perez then the yare right. The results have been terrible so far and Perez needs to go, they need a change.
November 02, 2024, 11:05:09 AM
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Max ended in third position but he is under investigation and may get a penalty.
Max ended in third position but he is under investigation and may get a penalty.
From what I saw there, Max seemed impatient and wanted to take the opportunity to cut Piastri who was in front of him, but it seemed that the aggressive move would cost him a 5-second penalty and he would likely be behind Charles. That would certainly be detrimental to Max because with Norris getting maximum points and him only getting a possible 5 points, it would further close the gap between the two of them in the drivers' championship.
November 02, 2024, 10:46:50 AM
Norris managed to win the sprint with a gift from piastri.
Piastre ended in second position.
So Mclaren got 1-2 position in the sprint race.
This was un expected news and Ferrari needs to limit the damage tommorow since this track should be a weakness for the red car.
Max ended in third position but he is under investigation and may get a penalty.
Piastre ended in second position.
So Mclaren got 1-2 position in the sprint race.
This was un expected news and Ferrari needs to limit the damage tommorow since this track should be a weakness for the red car.
Max ended in third position but he is under investigation and may get a penalty.
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