Another win for Bagnaina this morning in Japan.
He has won again in front of Jorge Marting.
This is his 8th win for this season. Good result for Mac Marquesz too in the podium.
The leaderboard now is even shorter with -10 from Martin.
5/5 ducati on the first 5 positions.
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October 06, 2024, 08:11:13 AM
October 06, 2024, 04:21:24 AM
I'm getting even more bored each day while waiting on the next GP in Formula 1. 
I just don't get it. Why would you want to give another break which is at the length of a summer break?
It is said they claim to be thinking of the environment in terms of carbon footprint and so on. Just come on! Do you really believe you can contribute to it that much by such a move? It is just a show, nothing more.
I hope we don't see this nonsense in 2025 season. Even drivers and teams must be questioning why they are doing this. I mean they of course get an opportunity to take a vacation in the meantime but this just decreases the time gap between the end of this season and the beginning of next one.
I just don't get it. Why would you want to give another break which is at the length of a summer break?It is said they claim to be thinking of the environment in terms of carbon footprint and so on. Just come on! Do you really believe you can contribute to it that much by such a move? It is just a show, nothing more.
I hope we don't see this nonsense in 2025 season. Even drivers and teams must be questioning why they are doing this. I mean they of course get an opportunity to take a vacation in the meantime but this just decreases the time gap between the end of this season and the beginning of next one.
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October 06, 2024, 02:07:37 AM
Crashes seems to be a common thing for Acosta, I cant really remember how many times he crashed this season but I think he crashes more than the other riders.
More unfortunately, most of his crashes were self accident which means there is something wrong with himself or with his bike.
He is a great young potential rider and as a rookie, he should take this season as a learning season where he can get more experiences to improve his skills for the upcoming season.
A young rider who still needs more learning with the bike and the characteristics of the machine he uses should be considered normal when he crashes more than other riders this season. But if you are looking to find out who the riders who crashed the most in 2024 or this season, you might be a little surprised because Marquez still leads the standings for the most crashes this season followed by Pedro Acosta in second place in terms of the most crashes this season. And next season Pedro Acosta will be on the KTM factory team so he is expected to make a little difference with his achievements in a full season. Here is a presentation of the data of riders who crashed this year;More unfortunately, most of his crashes were self accident which means there is something wrong with himself or with his bike.
He is a great young potential rider and as a rookie, he should take this season as a learning season where he can get more experiences to improve his skills for the upcoming season.
October 06, 2024, 01:07:53 AM
A very strong race from Bagnaia so far, generally a very good weekend for him if he doesn't crash in the final laps. But Martin is the biggest surprise in today's race, to go from 11th to 2nd is not easy, very strong.
Another crash by Acosta unfortunately and it makes Pecco almost untouchable since Acosta crashed
What is wrong with him? Martin and Marc did their best today because both started the race from 11th and 9th but they could finish on 2nd and 3rd.
Martin tried really hard to cut the gap to Pecco and he almost did it in the last few laps but Pecco was fighting back which make Martin think realistic that it wont be possible to catch Pecco with just few laps remaining.
Perhaps the race will be much more interesting if the rain really come
4 Races remaining, the competition to be champion will be between Pecco and Martin only because I think there is no longer opportunity for Enea and Marc.
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October 06, 2024, 01:02:45 AM
Congratulations to Pecco Bagnaia who has won the full race at the Motegi circuit in Japan today and that has completed a very satisfying weekend for Bagnaia because he was able to win in the Sprint yesterday and also won in the full race today. And a rather unfortunate fate also happened to Pedro Acosta because he fell at the last corner while in second place after starting the race for several laps, although he had time to rejoin, but also to no avail. While Marquez also managed to get third place because Bastianini was no longer able to catch up when the sun began to shine on the circuit when the race still had several laps left.
October 06, 2024, 12:40:11 AM
A very strong race from Bagnaia so far, generally a very good weekend for him if he doesn't crash in the final laps. But Martin is the biggest surprise in today's race, to go from 11th to 2nd is not easy, very strong.
October 05, 2024, 01:13:47 PM
Yeah, currently the only undecided seats are there. I don't know who would be eager to race for Kick Sauber. 
Maybe they would bring another young driver from F2.
For Racing Bulls, isn't it already decided that it is going to be Liam Lawson?
Or was it just for the remaining part of the season?
Maybe they would bring another young driver from F2.For Racing Bulls, isn't it already decided that it is going to be Liam Lawson?
Or was it just for the remaining part of the season?I think Bottas in the end will find a seat.
I mean he is an experienced driver and teams always want a driver like them, polite experienced.
I don't think that teams wants 2 young drivers, who better than an "old driver" for give the information they need to the engineers to be able to build a better car?
Is better to take even a slower (no too much slower) driver but that he helps in the development.
October 05, 2024, 12:23:43 PM
IF williams still in this path for this lasts race of the season i can see them overpassing HAAS and RB teams at the end of the season, and that it can be a super blow for the other teams and a super bump in energy and money for the Williams team.
I hope to see them with a much better car for the next season.
Yeah, if Williams can maintain their current performance it will not be impossible for them to overtake HAAS or RB in terms of points, especially since quite a lot of people are paying special attention to Colapinto who can get more points than what Logan achieved in several races, he can be a good capital for Williams to be able to score more points in the next race. Now we just need to wait and see how Liam performs, if he has a good performance, maybe Williams will have a little difficulty in overtaking their points.
October 05, 2024, 08:41:29 AM
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With the confrim of Antonelli to Mercedes we have only 2 free slots for the moment.
1 in Sauber and 1 in Visa Cash app
Yeah, currently the only undecided seats are there. I don't know who would be eager to race for Kick Sauber.
Maybe they would bring another young driver from F2.For Racing Bulls, isn't it already decided that it is going to be Liam Lawson?
Or was it just for the remaining part of the season?Ah thanks for pointing that out... Mmm ok, so we already saw how their car performs in a street circuit. I wanna see it perform in a proper F1 track and I guess the next race will def show just that at Circuit of The Americas in Texas.
But if Norris is still fast in his McLaren then we'll def have some interesting races coming up til the end of the season.
It's gonna be the start of Red Bull's down fall imho, thanks to Jos Verstappen for disturbing the peace within the team. I hope Horner leaves too.
But if Norris is still fast in his McLaren then we'll def have some interesting races coming up til the end of the season.
It's gonna be the start of Red Bull's down fall imho, thanks to Jos Verstappen for disturbing the peace within the team. I hope Horner leaves too.My pleasure. I hope McLaren keeps up the good work by the next race also. I don't want them to gift the constructor championship to Red Bull.
In fact, I'm okay with McLaren and Ferrari both about winning the title. October 05, 2024, 07:46:52 AM
Congratulations on the first pole position for Acosta, Marc Marquez set the fastest time, but was rightly penalised for the track limit and so Acosta has pole position ahead of Bagnaia. Martin crashed and Bagnaia will try to make up points in the championship standings.
Starting the Sprint from first position was clearly very good for Pedro Acosta even though at the start of the Sprint he was immediately overtaken by Bagnaia, but he also had a better time to catch Bagnaia again after a few laps. But unfortunately Pedro Acosta could not maintain his first position while leading the Sprint today so he crashed with four laps left to go. It was really very painful for a rookie Pedro Acosta and Marquez also almost got second position in today's Sprint, but Bastianini did not give that opportunity to Marquez because Bastianini also wanted to be in second position. Now Bagnaia and Martin's points have been cut again because Martin could only finish in the top four in today's Sprint.Crashes seems to be a common thing for Acosta, I cant really remember how many times he crashed this season but I think he crashes more than the other riders.
More unfortunately, most of his crashes were self accident which means there is something wrong with himself or with his bike.
He is a great young potential rider and as a rookie, he should take this season as a learning season where he can get more experiences to improve his skills for the upcoming season.
The best moment in today's Sprint Race is exactly the duel between Enea vs Marquez but unfortunately it was happened in few corners only in the 11th lap.
It would be much more interesting if there were more laps to go
hopefully tomorrow will be much interesting race to watch. October 05, 2024, 07:43:47 AM
Bagnaia managed to win the sprint race so now the leader board is short once again.
Martin is still leading but his advantage is reduced to only 15 points ahead of Bagnaia.
Bastianini is in 3rd position but he is too far away to have some chances, he is at -72 points.
Tomorrow we will have the race and the points will change once again.
Martin is still leading but his advantage is reduced to only 15 points ahead of Bagnaia.
Bastianini is in 3rd position but he is too far away to have some chances, he is at -72 points.
Tomorrow we will have the race and the points will change once again.
October 05, 2024, 07:20:02 AM
McLaren's advantage is gone folks. There's nothing to see here anymore... They don't have the best car. And the funny is... Leclerc could snag second in the driver's championship.
Not exactly. When Norris won by this big of a time gap in Singapore, McLaren already had a new wing after the previous one providing a mini DRS was found illegal.
Ah thanks for pointing that out... Mmm ok, so we already saw how their car performs in a street circuit. I wanna see it perform in a proper F1 track and I guess the next race will def show just that at Circuit of The Americas in Texas.
But if Norris is still fast in his McLaren then we'll def have some interesting races coming up til the end of the season.
It's gonna be the start of Red Bull's down fall imho, thanks to Jos Verstappen for disturbing the peace within the team. I hope Horner leaves too. legendary
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October 05, 2024, 05:30:29 AM
Thanks for the conclusion, I live in Europe and didn't have time to watch the qualifying and the sprint race. Too bad for Acosta, but maybe it was too early for a win, Martin will have a hard time not to lose many points against Bagnaia again tomorrow, maybe I'll manage to see the race tomorrow morning.
Winning will always mean more to a rider like Pedro Acosta, especially tomorrow he will also start the race in first position. But considering Bagnaia, Martin, Bastianini and Marquez will also continue to dominate the front row, of course it won't be easy for a rookie like Pedro Acosta to maintain his position tomorrow. But I'm pretty sure that Pedro Acosta can be on the podium tomorrow if he doesn't crash in the middle of the race like he did in the Sprint today And for the schedule itself is also quite ideal because the time difference between Japan and the country where I live now is not too far so I can definitely watch it like I watched the Sprint today. October 05, 2024, 01:39:01 AM
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Thanks for the conclusion, I live in Europe and didn't have time to watch the qualifying and the sprint race. Too bad for Acosta, but maybe it was too early for a win, Martin will have a hard time not to lose many points against Bagnaia again tomorrow, maybe I'll manage to see the race tomorrow morning.
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October 05, 2024, 01:33:29 AM
Congratulations on the first pole position for Acosta, Marc Marquez set the fastest time, but was rightly penalised for the track limit and so Acosta has pole position ahead of Bagnaia. Martin crashed and Bagnaia will try to make up points in the championship standings.
Starting the Sprint from first position was clearly very good for Pedro Acosta even though at the start of the Sprint he was immediately overtaken by Bagnaia, but he also had a better time to catch Bagnaia again after a few laps. But unfortunately Pedro Acosta could not maintain his first position while leading the Sprint today so he crashed with four laps left to go. It was really very painful for a rookie Pedro Acosta and Marquez also almost got second position in today's Sprint, but Bastianini did not give that opportunity to Marquez because Bastianini also wanted to be in second position. Now Bagnaia and Martin's points have been cut again because Martin could only finish in the top four in today's Sprint. October 05, 2024, 01:13:59 AM
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Congratulations on the first pole position for Acosta, Marc Marquez set the fastest time, but was rightly penalised for the track limit and so Acosta has pole position ahead of Bagnaia. Martin crashed and Bagnaia will try to make up points in the championship standings.
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October 04, 2024, 11:57:59 PM
Pedro Acosta successfully achieved his first pole position of the season at the Motegi circuit in Japan and it was extraordinary considering he is a rookie in MotoGP at the moment who is on an independent team using the KTM RC16 engine. I have seen how he worked hard this season until he was able to finish second when racing in Mandalika last week and today he must also be considered a pretty dangerous rider because he could have won the Sprint today and also the full race on Sunday tomorrow. In addition Jorgen Martin had to start the Sprint and the full race in a very bad position this season because he had crashed in the final minutes of qualifying.
October 04, 2024, 03:17:09 PM
2025 F1 driver line-up
Driver Team Contract End
Max Verstappen Red Bull 2028
Sergio Perez Red Bull 2026
Lewis Hamilton Ferrari multi-year
Charles Leclerc Ferrari multi-year
George Russell Mercedes 2025
Andrea Kimi Antonelli Mercedes Unknown
Lando Norris McLaren "Long-term"
Oscar Piastri McLaren 2026
Lance Stroll Aston Martin "2025 and beyond"
Fernando Alonso Aston Martin multi-year
Alex Albon Williams 2025
Carlos Sainz Williams "Beyond 2026"
Nico Hulkenberg Sauber multi-year
Pierre Gasly Alpine "Long-term"
Jack Doohan Alpine 2025
Esteban Ocon Haas multi-year
Oliver Bearman Haas multi-year
Yuki Tsunoda Visa Cash App RB 2025
Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046665/1/2025-f1-driver-line-who-confirmed-and-rumoured-2025-grid
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Driver Team Contract End
Max Verstappen Red Bull 2028
Sergio Perez Red Bull 2026
Lewis Hamilton Ferrari multi-year
Charles Leclerc Ferrari multi-year
George Russell Mercedes 2025
Andrea Kimi Antonelli Mercedes Unknown
Lando Norris McLaren "Long-term"
Oscar Piastri McLaren 2026
Lance Stroll Aston Martin "2025 and beyond"
Fernando Alonso Aston Martin multi-year
Alex Albon Williams 2025
Carlos Sainz Williams "Beyond 2026"
Nico Hulkenberg Sauber multi-year
Pierre Gasly Alpine "Long-term"
Jack Doohan Alpine 2025
Esteban Ocon Haas multi-year
Oliver Bearman Haas multi-year
Yuki Tsunoda Visa Cash App RB 2025
Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046665/1/2025-f1-driver-line-who-confirmed-and-rumoured-2025-grid
With the confrim of Antonelli to Mercedes we have only 2 free slots for the moment.
1 in Sauber and 1 in Visa Cash app
October 04, 2024, 12:55:41 PM
In this regard, it is hilarious to imagine that Formula 1 has committed to achieving carbon neutrality by 2030, in other words... that they promise to drastically reduce their carbon pollution and remove any remaining residue from the atmosphere.
Not even "Formula E" is capable of this, since it has already been proven that the process for manufacturing batteries is as polluting, if not more so, than a combustion engine in its entire lifespan.
Anyway, I believe that this is just a way for them to try to show themselves to be more "aware" of the environmental problems of today's world and thus obtain subsidies and more sponsors without anyone continuing to criticize their actions. Just as happens in many countries, F1 will continue to burn fossil fuels and will have to offset carbon emissions by planting trees or financing environmental projects in institutions that can offset their environmental losses.
Money generating more money and attracting media attention... nothing new
They do not really consider battery resources as polluting when they are calculating, that's why. They consider how much they are polluting while racing, that's it, and they say they are going to be net negative when they are racing eventually, which we all know won't happen because of mining, but they will only consider the races, well of course practice and qualifying too, but not the battery manufacturing.Not even "Formula E" is capable of this, since it has already been proven that the process for manufacturing batteries is as polluting, if not more so, than a combustion engine in its entire lifespan.
Anyway, I believe that this is just a way for them to try to show themselves to be more "aware" of the environmental problems of today's world and thus obtain subsidies and more sponsors without anyone continuing to criticize their actions. Just as happens in many countries, F1 will continue to burn fossil fuels and will have to offset carbon emissions by planting trees or financing environmental projects in institutions that can offset their environmental losses.
Money generating more money and attracting media attention... nothing new
That is something that needs to be change all together in the world, not just for formula, but MANY people are buying electric cars thinking they are doing a good thing for the world and climate, while not really helping with anything, this needs to be a bigger issue and let everyone know how much it hurts the world to build one electric vehicle.
In the end, its still better way forward because if they can make the batteries out of something more renewable or sustainable that doesn't hurt the world, then the whole problem goes away, combustion engines do not have that potential.
October 04, 2024, 12:15:59 PM
IF williams still in this path for this lasts race of the season i can see them overpassing HAAS and RB teams at the end of the season, and that it can be a super blow for the other teams and a super bump in energy and money for the Williams team.
I hope to see them with a much better car for the next season.
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