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2024 F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Qualifying Results
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Q1   Q2   Q3
1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m33.186s   1m32.779s   1m32.312s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m33.484s   1m32.711s   1m32.410s
3   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.691s   1m32.879s   1m32.664s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m33.446s   1m33.016s   1m32.783s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m33.299s   1m33.085s   1m32.797s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.592s   1m33.099s   1m33.008s
7   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m33.789s   1m33.089s   1m33.029s
8   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.450s   1m33.024s   1m33.033s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m33.920s   1m33.114s   1m33.062s
10   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m33.225s   1m32.567s   1m48.106s
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.968s   1m33.221s   
12   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m33.991s   1m33.297s   
13   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m34.079s   1m33.566s   
14   Franco Colapinto   ARG   Williams Racing   1m33.746s   1m33.749s   
15   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m34.087s   1m34.257s   
16   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m34.155s       
17   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m34.258s       
18   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m34.425s       
19   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m34.430s       
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m34.484s   

https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1060626/1/2024-f1-las-vegas-grand-prix-qualifying-results

Merdeces should go slow down during the race and Mclaren looks having degradation on tires, so it could be a fight Ferrari - Redbull if nothing happens.

The qualifying results are out. Russell managed to get pole position after a tough fight. In P2 we got Sainz. And the most unexpected was Gasly in P3. As for Norris and Max they were in 5th and 6th - and it looks like we will see a tough fight between them because this race will determine whether Max can secure his 4th title or it will continue until Qatar later. But the funniest thing is how Perez who was eliminated in Q3, compared to Yuki who finished in P7 even using a lower car compared to what Perez used, this further strengthens the signal that Perez was actually retained because of political elements not because of his potential.

It will be an exciting race to watch I think and I hope that it won't be a joke like last year's Las Vegas race.

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m33.825s
2   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.836s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m34.015s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m34.105s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m34.313s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.651s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m34.686s
8   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m34.798s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m34.818s
10   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m34.997s
11   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m35.020s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m35.221s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m32.251s
14   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m32.440s
15   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m35.671s
16   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m35.765s
17   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m35.834s
18   Franco Colapinto   ARG   Williams Racing   1m35.868s
19   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m36.055s
20   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m39.929s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1060505/1/2024-f1-las-vegas-grand-prix-practice-results

Mercedes fast in both session.
Qualifying in few hourse, dont thin Max can compete but we will see I guess.

Max needs to finish this race ahead of Norris to get the title, or just keep Norris from outscoring him by 3 points, if he can do that then he can secure his 4th title, or if not then we move on to Qatar. So this race will be quite exciting because from the results of the FP earlier, Norris managed to finish ahead of Max and there was a slight problem with their rear wing selection, and most likely McLaren will go all out in this race to prevent Max from getting his title here.

so Max can be the world champion this week with a lot of permutation.
He needs to leave the weekeend with 60 points of advantage.

With simply a 3rd spot for example he will champion if Norris will not win.

But basically expect 1st place he just need to be 1 position after Norris.

Lol yup, I'm curious too.  And when I checked the lines, it looks like the bookies are also curious...  Aka they have no idea what's gonna happen in Vegas.  Lol.  Verstappen is at 3.40, Norris is at 3.35 and Leclerc is at 3.60.    That's basically like a coin flip if it's a one on one match up. 

But knowing how good the McLaren car is and knowing how Norris was so affected when he came in far from the leader at the last race, I think he'll def up his game and win the next race.    Dunno tho.  Lolol.

Tomorrow the race weekend is going to start. There is no sprint race in Las Vegas. It is going to be the second time an F1 race is organized there as well. We will see whether the first winner of the track Verstappen will manage to maintain a streak or not. He was really amazing in Brazil. He showed how capable he was under rainy weather. That comeback from last positions was incredible!  

There is no rain expected during this weekend. Red Bull still doesn't have the fastest car. Verstappen has a tough work to do this time. But I still think he will announce his 4th title there officially.

Test of Moto Gp.

Marq Marquez gives the middle finger to his ex team.
Alex Marquez got the best time, near the pole position of Bagnaia of 4 days before.
Ducati tested 2027 Ducati prototype.
Weird to see Martin in Aprilia.
 

Place of Canadian GP in calendar always looked strange for me in terms of logistics and logic in general. Between races in Europe they travel across the ocean just for one race. But there isn't many dates available where you can move Canadian GP because of weather conditions.

This season the power of the Ducati engine cannot be blocked by other manufacturers because in addition to its strong engine power, it is also supported by quite capable riders so that Ducati's dominance is really visible this season. And for next season I also hope to have a manufacturer that is really able to fight Ducati, be it Yanaha, KTM, and also Aprilia because next season some riders will be in different teams with very different motorbikes.

Some news.

The Canadian Gp is set to move early in the calendar from  to get less travels from Eu to US for the teams.
Domenicali could end in Moto GP from F1, but the rumor is lickely to be denied.
Zhou Guanyu could berFerrari’s reserve driver for the next season.

Max Verstappen said he hopes to be sick for F1 75 live and anyway it will be an event with "fake" cars.

Age plays a huge role though, isn't it? I mean even if Hamilton scores more points, which Sainz looks like he could have done if the team didn't really favour Leclerc but yeah like I said age plays a role.

Hamilton may get more points but he will be there for a few seasons at most, dude is getting closer to 40, and I doubt he will go like Alonso and race until 42-43 years old, which means that how many years could Ferrari even get from Hamilton? By comparison, if he does well enough then Charles could race for at least another ten seasons for Ferrari and that is the most important factor to consider when picking a first driver.

I mean obviously it's not only the age, if Charles was younger but terrible then we would see Hamilton be first, but Charles is not terrible neither, dude is third right now and that is why I believe that the best thing to do right now is making sure that things aren't looking that terrible at all, it has to be a different situation here.

Exactly a very strong dominance of Ducati, and hope that at least KTM can catch up a bit, Yamaha has also put a lot of money into the development, so I hope that next year it will not be a Formula Ducati again.


The test should or was planned for 28 November in Valencia, but I can't say whether it will also take place in Barcelona.

Zhou is reportedly in communication with Ferrari to become their reserve driver.

https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/rumours/f1-rumor-current-driver-pegged-for-ferrari-reserve-role-in-2025-01jczh041bqf

Zhou's move to become a reserve driver is his best option now - following in the footsteps of his teammate Bottas who is a reserve driver for Mercedes next season. Although this is just a rumor, the opportunity is likely to be realized since Zhou is a driver from the Ferrari academy and he still wants to stay in F1 even if only as a reserve driver.

They are really good these days. I wish they were as competitive as now at the beginning of the season too but anyways...    This makes me hopeful about Ferrari's car next season. If you are making a huge signing then you can't have any excuse with the car from now on. This is a move to be champion after more than a decade in the end.

We are finally in the race week! This is going to be the second time Las Vegas hosting Formula 1 so let's see.

I loved Verstappen's effort under rain. I'm curious about whether he will manage to win 2 times in a row no matter how the weather is like. 

Having a driver line up of Leclerc and Hamilton and looking at Leclerc's history with the team and Hamilton's status in the sport...  What team could?  Lol.  There's gonna be a lot of friction between these two for sure next year.  But I think it will be Leclerc who's gonna give way and act as driver no. 2. 

But I don't think Leclerc is gonna allow it to happen at some point.  He'll prolly give Rosberg a call and try to get some tips on how to beat Hamilton. 

Pos       Rider   Nat   Team   Points   Diff.
1   =   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pramac Ducati (GP24)   508   
2   =   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP24)   498   (-10)
3   ^1   Marc Marquez   SPA   Gresini Ducati (GP23)   392   (-116)
4   ˅1   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP24)   386   (-122)
5   ^1   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   217   (-291)

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1060274/1/barcelona-final-2024-motogp-world-championship-standings


Final leaderboard for drivers and for Constructors dominated by Ducati.

Test during this week will be interesting.
I  mean they should be this week right? Not easy to find the date on google.

Reality is that Ferrari is not really a team that does "first driver" logic all that much, they are going to just screw them both lol. I mean we have seen them change team principles and all that, but nothing really changed, they are still doing the same simple mistakes, thankfully they are doing better now but still not good enough to win.

Mclaren for example came from all the way back and won and Ferrari never really upgraded that well. I am not saying that the car is bad, sure car could be better too, but I believe whatever happens, happens during the race and with the pit team as well and that's the biggest problem. They trained those pit crew many times before, and they are still making mistakes, they changed some very bad ones to very good ones too and they are still making a mistake too. So long story short I believe that we are going to end up with Ferrari not really caring about either and both drivers will be mad that they are in Ferrari.

as expected Martin is the world champion for 2024.
I think this driver has more talent than Bagnaia.
Basically who won the championship was the driver of the two who made the least mistakes.
Super championship for Marquez, next year there will be fun when he gets on the official Ducati.

In fact we will see it in a few days in the post season texts.

Congratulations to Jorge Martin who has successfully become the 2024 MotoGP world champion after successfully finishing third in today's race at the Catalunya Barcelona circuit. And congratulations also to Bagnaia who has successfully won 11 major races this season even though he did not succeed in becoming world champion and only succeeded in occupying second place in the standings this season. Another congratulations also to Marquez who has successfully occupied third place in the standings because he managed to finish second in today's closing race.