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Fia Announced a new rules for 2025.

The fist rule is for going against the cheat used by Mclared with the miniDRS.
They have now more regulation, more severe and it will be harder for find a grey spot.

They also added a new rule for Heat Hazard.
Basically teams needs to add a cooling sistem for drivers when the heat is over 30.5 °C, for doing so they increased the min weight of the car with 5 kg.

I do not think that cars will be that big of a gap right now, and everyone have some gap to cover anyways. Look at Kick Sauber, they had literally just four points all season long, they were slower than everyone else and it was definitely a terrible thing to see but I am still glad that they were there, because it means we get to see more cars.

The notion of "nobody wants to see slower cars" is something I disagree with, I may understand it if you do not want to, but I do and I like to see them, because it's competition for themselves as well.

For example Williams finished 9th, 17, and they were all alone, because 10th Sauber had 4, far away, and 8th "visa cash" whatever this new name craze is, basically be sister team, had 46 points, still far away from Williams.

Basically, all season long, Williams never had any competition, they were far away from each team from both sides, is that fun? I do not think so, but if we add more teams, I think everyone will have someone close to them they try to beat. Do not look at it as 2 seconds slower than others, look at it as a team that can battle against Williams.

some updates.

Cadillac 1st driver is now rumored to be Riccardo.
2026 cars will be 200 kg heavier so maybe they will be slower? to counter this they incresed their horse power.
2026 should be the final season for Fernando Alonso.
2026 wheelbase of cars will be 20 cm longer.

Yes, you read that right... although these are just rumors, they seem to be quite strong that Sainz would swap Williams for Mercedes, opening up a spot for Antonelli at Williams instead of the German team.

That would change the strategy for next year quite a bit, don't you think?

I consider Antonelli to be a future star in Formula 1... he is a young driver with an impressive track record in the junior categories and is seen as a central part of the future of the team led by Toto Wolff. If this move to Williams does happen, it will allow him to gain a lot of experience and develop in a team with less pressure before taking on the leadership role at Mercedes. I think it would be a good strategy even for him.

For now, Wolff vehemently denies that there is any possibility of a swap involving Sainz and Antonelli, but the speculation is very strong.

Make no mistake... although the driver market for next season is calmer compared to previous years, Formula 1 has a history of unexpected changes. Those who have been following this for years will know what I am talking about.

And we still have Red Bull evaluating its options for the second car, so this speculation involving Mercedes and Williams already makes the market quite unstable and everything can change before the start of the championship.

Charles needs to use this as learning experience and not competition. He has 7 time world champion right next to him everyday, and they are not even competition anymore. So that means, he can literally ask about anything, and take notes and learn from the best. If he considers this as a lesson and get better and improve then he would do much better in the future but if he sees this as competition and some ego wars then he is going to end up being much more hurt in the end, and won't get any better.

Hamilton is not there as mentor of course, he is there to potentially get the 8th title finally, which won't be easy and I believe that would not be something he can get, but that will be what he will be aiming for while there.

rendered images of 2026 has been officialy release from FIA
The cars looks very similar but it will be smaller

Some changes coming

+300% electrical power
100% sustainable fuel used
Red Bull will have his own engine with Honda leaving once again
GM plans to use their own engine but they will start with Ferrari engine
DRS will be removed and replaced with MOM, Manual override Mode giving drivers an electrical boost, like fast and furious.

About Leclerc...  Lol.  I think he'll be in for a couple of years or more of hurt with Hamilton around.  Hamilton is known to be a fierce competitor and Leclerc would have to earn each point as Hamilton won't be soft on Leclerc because they're 'team mates'.

What Leclerc should start doing is ask for some racing tips from Nico Rosberg.    Pretty sure he's the only guy who could give Leclerc some good advice.

As @coinlocket$ said, having more teams in F1 is not better because it will only create some problems such as congestion on the grid, unbalanced competition between big teams and lower teams, revenue sharing, and many other problems, so F1 really considers carefully when they want to add 1 team on the grid, because otherwise it will cause serious implications. But F1's decision to add Cadillac-GM instead of Andretti is right, because these two manufacturers are big players in the automotive industry, they have good financial support, have a clear vision, plus the large American market can be an added value to F1. And they will also use engines from Ferrari, this is a very mature preparation and has the potential to make Cadillac-GM competitive on the grid.

More cars is not always a good thing.
They already tried in the last 15 years adding more teams.

When you have teams going 2 seconds slower per lap in F1 is just a unwanted safety problem.
If Cadillac is opened to invest sure then.

Using a top engine like Ferrari or Mercedes, they are equal nowdays, its a good start.

Cadillac-GM to be racing starting with the new cars is a great deal without a doubt, it's always good to have more teams, and I also hoped for Ford too but they didn't. I mean we are seeing a lot more attention towards F1 thanks to the netflix series a lot of people are watching it, and that makes the income more as well, but I also believe that lower teams should be getting some benefits.

Look at Williams, Haas, Sauber, these teams do not make money at all, and they are still keeping the F1 going, what if they decided to just leave because they are just losing money, it would take F1 time to recover, causing the teams to race against few teams together. Hence, these lower teams and new teams should get a good boost and help in finance somehow.

Yeah totally! This is the opportunity for Hamilton to break the most titles record by himself finally.    Ferrari and McLaren are the fastest teams currently.

McLaren has finished their thirst for a championship after a break of 26 of years... Let's do the same for Ferrari with Leclerc - Hamilton duo, shall we? 

I have heard something about Mercedes by the way but it might just be a rumour too. It is said that they might want to get Sainz from Williams and send Antonelli there for next season.

I would say Russell probably let Hamilton go, didn't it look like that? I mean if it was another team or another person, or even if it was lewis coming back, then in all of those cases George probably would continue for a long time without a doubt and would force his approach as well but looking at it right now we could say that it is not like he pushed too much, he let lewis go around but he didn't stopped neither, he didn't just get out, he made it look like a racing overtake, but didn't fought too hard neither.

I remember many teammates battles that resulted with both racers being out, nobody would have wanted that for lews's last race, that would have been a shame. In any case, we are lucky to see his Mercedes period, and I wish him the best at Ferrari.

^  I'm surprised they're not going for Red Bull's Ford assisted power units.


The thing is not to expect anything huge from Ferrari during Hamilton's first season in the team.  But I would expect something at 2026 with the spec and power unit changes.  I think that's when we'll start seeing Ferrari dominate F1 once again.  And Ferrari prolly knows this as why would they get Hamilton..?  Yup, you guys guessed it, to break Schumacher's record.  A record that was made in the same team.  Lol.

Ferrari is now the official supporter for Cadillac-GM engines from 2026.
Cadilac is expected to enter n f1 as 11th team in 2026.

The team principal will be Greame Lowdon and Mario Andretti will stay in the team as adviser of the team.

Wouldn't say that Hamilton isn't as competetive as he used be. This season we saw that even with not greatest car he can perfrom well. Ferrari isn't paying such big money just for name and Lewis definitely didn't went to Ferrari to help Leclerc to get title.

Vettel, I'm sceptical about him. Yeah, he would be able to compete if he would want, but looks that just don't have interest.

Yeah not exactly it happened with Vettel.    I guess we can say it was when Alonso was racing for Ferrari. It was the last time Ferrari looked sharp. But when it comes to their last championship, it was way back in history. Now things are likely to change finally. Hamilton is a huge signing and Ferrari is one of the best teams at the moment. Even better than Red Bull.

I hope Ferrari doesn't mess up with their upgrades in car. Moreover they actually need consistent workers in every field of the team. They can minimize their mistakes only in this way.

That start crash definitely caused some hype for Ferrari fans. I assumed Norris wouldn't be this comfortable all race long, literally nobody pushed him and he kept himself going for a long time without anyone bothering him. That's what's wrong with ferrari to be fair, they are not really pushing anyone, glad that they finished second, that's a good result, but it's honestly not good at all. I believe we need to look at what's going to happen with Red Bull next season.

Max is alone, who knows who will replace perez, and not only that, after losing a lot of engineers to aston martin, now they lost newey to aston martin as well, so I have no hope for the future of Red Bull at all, I believe that is going to be the hardest thing for sure.

Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Time   Laps
1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m23.510s   134
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Williams Racing   1m23.635s   146
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m23.789s   134
4   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m23.856s   113
5   Andrea Kimi Antonelli   ITA   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m23.873s   62
6   Amuyu Iwasa   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m24.100s   110
7   Pato O'Ward   MEX   McLaren F1 Team   1m24.222s   116
8   Jack Doohan   AUS   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m24.268   137
9   Paul Aron   EST   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m24.275s   121
10   Esteban Ocon   FRA   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m24.305s   119
11   Luke Browning   GBR   Williams Racing   1m24.375s   105
12   Ryo Hirakawa   JPN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m24.435s   133
13   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m24.440s   159
14   Arthur Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m24.576s   68
15   Isack Hadjar   FRA   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m24.632s   125
16   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m24.678s   84
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m24.689s   127
18   Gabriel Bortoleto   BRA   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m24.738s   130
19   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m24.838s   72
20   Jak Crawford   USA   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1n24.997s   109
21   Felipe Drugovich   BRA   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m25.014s   146
22   Frederik Vesti   DEN   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m25.159s   55
23   Antonio Fuoco   ITA   Scuderia Ferrari   1m25.238s   73

Post season test of today.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1061529/1/2024-f1-abu-dhabi-post-season-testing-results

For reference Pole position was 1.22.5

Not so sad to not have seen Hamilton in red yet.

His debut will be even bigger with more media when it will be celebrated.

Yup that during 2018...  I think?  But yeah, it was very close but Vettel screwed up in the German GP of all races.  Lol.  If I remember it right, it was his race to win and winning it would take him in the championship lead.  But then he crashed...  Was it the 2018 German GP or am I thinking about another race?

But yeah...  Wouldn't mind seeing him back on the grid tbh.  I think he still has a couple of years of racing in him.

The last race of the season is over. Max Verstappen indirectly raised Ferrari's hopes with his contact with Oscar Piastri at the start, but no miracle happened and McLaren won the race, and therefore the 2024 team championship, thanks to Lando Norris flawless driving from start to finish. Congratulations on the championship after 26 years.

Apart from the start and the first laps, I didn't see a lot of action in this race. Charles Leclerc drove like a legend and went from 19th to 3rd. In this position, it would have been unfair to expect more from him. Lewis Hamilton reminded George Russell on the last lap who the king is. Other than that, I didn't see much else in the race. I think Ferrari lost the championship on the last lap of the 2024 Azerbaijan Gp when Carlos Sainz crashed. If that accident hadn't happened and everything else had continued, maybe Ferrari would have won.