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During the Free Practice and sprint qualifying McLarens were quite fast. This is quite bad news for Ferrari's constructors title hopes. But as for the racing pace we know that Ferrari has been better than McLaren in the recent races. The sprint race which is going to take place soon would give us more ideas about the teams.
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It was really unexpected for many people when Bagnaia had to crash in today's Sprint race, making the points gap 29 units with Jorge Martin. This is really very painful for Bagnaia because he will have a hard time catching up with the number of points that Jorge Martin has obtained because tomorrow Martin will definitely play it safer just to smooth his path to becoming world champion with a satellite team. And if Martin is really able to become world champion with a satellite team this season, it will be extraordinary for him because after Valentino Rossi who was the last time he successfully became world champion with a satellite team, no other rider has been able to do that until now, so Martin could be an extraordinary rider who is able to win the world championship with a satellite team after Valentino Rossi.

After Pecco dominated since Friday starting from free pratice to qualification and he takes the pole position, but unfortunately he crashed today on sprint race which make the gap to Martin bigger.
There are some possible scenario for Martin to lock the World title tomorrow, the key is that Martin should earn 9 points more than Pecco in the main race tomorrow.
Will we able to see new MotoGP champion tomorrow or will we need to wait until the last race? I myself want to see the champion in the last race because if Martin will be able to lock the World title tomorrow then the last race will be a bit less attractive to watch although I want to see Martin secure it as fast as possible Smiley.



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DISASTER.

Martin is now very close to be 2024 wolrd Champion of MotoGP.
Infact he will need to hold at least 38 points after the race of Sunday in Malaysia
Martin now has the hands on the title after the vitory of today and the crash of Francesco Bagnaia.
The italian was is a good spot after the quailify but he has now thrown everything in the dumpster.

He now needs a miracle.
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It was really unexpected for many people when Bagnaia had to crash in today's Sprint race, making the points gap 29 units with Jorge Martin. This is really very painful for Bagnaia because he will have a hard time catching up with the number of points that Jorge Martin has obtained because tomorrow Martin will definitely play it safer just to smooth his path to becoming world champion with a satellite team.
Yesterday he also said that it's good that he crashed because it showed the limit for his race[1]. I wonder if things would be different had the opposite happened. Anyway, I believe if he manages to get 9 more points than Bagnaia tomorrow he will win the championship[2]. I wonder if nerves would get to Bagnaia or will it affect Martin instead.

[1] https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1059379/1/jorge-martin-explains-malaysia-motogp-practice-spill-its-good-i-crashed-today
[2] https://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsport/moto-gp/reigning-champs-howler-gifts-spaniard-motogp-match-point-in-malaysia/news-story/664a98bc7bf30467c44fdf5901bae24b
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It was really unexpected for many people when Bagnaia had to crash in today's Sprint race, making the points gap 29 units with Jorge Martin. This is really very painful for Bagnaia because he will have a hard time catching up with the number of points that Jorge Martin has obtained because tomorrow Martin will definitely play it safer just to smooth his path to becoming world champion with a satellite team. And if Martin is really able to become world champion with a satellite team this season, it will be extraordinary for him because after Valentino Rossi who was the last time he successfully became world champion with a satellite team, no other rider has been able to do that until now, so Martin could be an extraordinary rider who is able to win the world championship with a satellite team after Valentino Rossi.
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Piastri got P1 in the sprint qualifying session earlier, ahead of his teammate Norris, he finished it well and very smoothly, and most likely the sprint later he could get P1 (if only Norris was not in a hurry to get points).

And Max looks like he's going to be pretty frustrated in this race, seeing how he's sandwiched between McLaren and Ferrari, and his useless teammate.

And this race is also quite important for Ferrari because we know that their points gap is only 29 points with McLaren in the constructor championship - with Charles and Sainz in positions P3 and P5, it could be a good opportunity for Ferrari to close their position and further widen their chances of getting the constructor championship. I really hope that they can get the title because the last time they got it was in 2008.
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Yes, the two dominate, and that's good for us spectators. The World Championship battle is coming to a head, even if Martin still has a big advantage over Bagnaia.

It will be the same in the next few days, maybe Marc Marquez will interfere, or he will hold back a bit in this world championship fight, but I don't think so.
Marc Marquez will keep fighting to win because he doesn't care who will be the champion this season even though he is no longer a candidate for the title this season. But from the speed that I saw in the two sessions yesterday, Bagnaia took the first position with an incredible speed that has put him first in FP1 and Practice sessions as well. And soon FP2 will take place, I will see where Bagnaia will be before going to qualifying to place himself on the grid.
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2024 F1 Sao Paulo Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (1)
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Time
1   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m10.610s
2   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m10.791s
3   Oliver Bearman   GBR   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.805s
4   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m10.950s
5   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m10.955s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.038s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.100s
8   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m11.124s
9   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m11.215s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m11.216s
11   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m11.301s
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m11.483s
13   Franco Colapinto   ARG   Williams Racing   1m11.619s
14   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m11.651s
15   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m11.712s
16   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m11.754s
17   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m11.783s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m11.827s
19   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m11.845s
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m12.883s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1059399/1/2024-f1-sao-paulo-grand-prix-friday-practice-results

Ferrari as expected is not so strong on this track but they may be hiding.

This weekend will tell us if Ferrari can or cannot win the constructior championship.
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They just ran the 1st hour of free practice and the situation is always the same.
Bagnaia and Martin are dominating the situation

Yes, the two dominate, and that's good for us spectators. The World Championship battle is coming to a head, even if Martin still has a big advantage over Bagnaia.

It will be the same in the next few days, maybe Marc Marquez will interfere, or he will hold back a bit in this world championship fight, but I don't think so.
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So, redbull confirmed the "asking" to Colapinto managment the possibility of joining RedBull.
Perez basically said his farewall in Instagram two days ago.

So in the end, this could be the last race with Perez for Redbull, and Copainto could subenter next GP for the 3 final GPS.

Can they do that?  It was just prolly Perez just saying good bye because he won't be with the team next season...  It's prolly not really because he's gonna be out of the team after the very next race after the weekend.  Lol.

But yeah, Red Bull should've made the move a year or so ago.  Everybody was already seeing that Perez wasn't a good fit for Red Bull except Red Bull itself.  Lol.

I'm not too excited for the team next year tbh.

Btw...  Verstappen is lined at 11 for the race.  Cheesy Cheesy  Podium finish at 2.65.
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Johnny Herbert who had a big part on Max Verstappen penalties last week is back ad judge on this weekend also.

About Moto GP
They just ran the 1st hour of free practice and the situation is always the same.
Bagnaia and Martin are dominating the situation


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Will Lenovo Ducati team do "team order" to help Pecco to be World Championship?
It sounds possible but at the same time it sounds unreasonable because basically both Pecco and Martin are Ducati riders.
If the competitor is from different factory such as Honda or Yamaha, I'm sure Lenovo Ducati will do team order to help Pecco.
2 Races remaining and the gap is 17 points only which makes the race for the title so tough, 1 mistake may make one of the riders especially Pecco will lose his chance if at the same time Martin win the upcoming race.
Even though Pecco and Martin are Ducati riders, the Lenovo Ducati team could do that by asking for help from other satellite teams. Because they certainly won't be able to ask for that from the riders who are in the Pramac Ducati team itself or Pecco himself can also ask for help from the Rossi academy team to guard him and also to prevent Martin from finishing right behind Pecco in the remaining races. Because if we look at the number of points gap that Martin currently has, he only needs to finish right behind Pecco without having to win again to be able to become world champion this season. And I also want to see what strategy Martin will use to be able to make that happen because the specs of both motorbikes are the same.
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1   Jorge Martin Prima Pramac Racing (GP24)   453.00
2   Francesco Bagnaia Ducati Lenovo Team (GP24)   436.00
3   Marc Marquez Gresini Racing MotoGP (GP23)   356.00

The fight is between these 3 drivers, probably only for the first 2.

Marquez can be who decides the title

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/championship_tables/content

In the time Alex Marquez will ride gp 2024 next season.
Does he will take the spot of his brother?
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Now the point gap between Bagnaia and Martin is 17 because Martin was able to stay in second position and Bagnaia was able to win fantastically in rainy conditions today. And with two races left in the season, it will certainly be even more exciting because Bagnaia must be more aggressive in the Sprint session and also in the full race session so that he can become world champion this season.

Bagnaia did what he had to do today, the same for Martin, don't drop out and finish second. Four second places are enough for Martin in the last four races. Bagnaia has the full pressure now and I don't think he can withstand the pressure and take four more wins. I think Marc Marquez is the favourite, especially in Valencia, but will he take points away from Bagnaia as a future team-mate?

Will Lenovo Ducati team do "team order" to help Pecco to be World Championship?
It sounds possible but at the same time it sounds unreasonable because basically both Pecco and Martin are Ducati riders.
If the competitor is from different factory such as Honda or Yamaha, I'm sure Lenovo Ducati will do team order to help Pecco.
2 Races remaining and the gap is 17 points only which makes the race for the title so tough, 1 mistake may make one of the riders especially Pecco will lose his chance if at the same time Martin win the upcoming race.
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For the first time in a long time I see Ferrari getting stronger after the updates, usually when the car was good Ferrari would go back to third and fourth with the update. So far stability has been the biggest problem for Ferrari and we'll see how they do in the next race. Sainz did a really good job.

Ferrari really made good use of the break and developed the car in the right direction, very good work from the whole team. The weather doesn't seem to be very good in Brazil this weekend, I'm curious to see how Ferrari can deal with the rain, but I hope that Ferrari can confirm their recent performance in Brazil.

As for the world championship, it now looks as if Verstappen could still save his lead over the finish line.
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Rain and heavy rain is expected for the whole weekend in Brazil.

follow the money.
One of the Sergio Perez sponsor is going to be linked with Franco Colapinto.

Another big rumor for the next Redbull Driver.

Colapinto will probably take Perez's seat from next week.

Hi coin, sorry for not being here, i was talking about this in others threads of F1.

The info we have here in Argentina is more like this.

Colapinto to RB VISA CASHAPP in 2025, it was gonna be only a loan but since the bad results from Perez they now are gonna buy Colapinto. Lawson to RedBull main team. Perez is out, is gonna be announced in Interlagos.

Tsunoda only remains because of Honda but RB doesnt like him at all.

BUT........ we have another info, IF Lawson not be so good Colapinto can be summoned to RedBull very fast.

So in resume, until now we have Lawson taking Perez seat for this remaining races, not Colapinto yet, but this can change if MercadoLibre put a ton of money.

MercadoLibre is like an amazon in the whole latinamerica, and was the yellow you see in the williams car in last race.
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Rain and heavy rain is expected for the whole weekend in Brazil.

follow the money.
One of the Sergio Perez sponsor is going to be linked with Franco Colapinto.

Another big rumor for the next Redbull Driver.

Colapinto will probably take Perez's seat from next week.
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I had read the news that in Ricardo Tormo Valencia has experienced a flash flood disaster and caused damage to the road that is often accessed by everyone there. I wonder whether the related parties in Valencia will immediately repair all the damaged important facilities so that the MotoGP event as the closing event of this season is not threatened to be canceled there. Because considering the closing schedule for MotoGP this season is in the middle of next month and that is quite close after the Sepang MotoGP in Malaysia at the end of this week.
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So, redbull confirmed the "asking" to Colapinto managment the possibility of joining RedBull.
Perez basically said his farewall in Instagram two days ago.

So in the end, this could be the last race with Perez for Redbull, and Copainto could subenter next GP for the 3 final GPS.
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^  I pray to the racing gods...  Please, pleeaaase let the Ferraris have a couple of good races that would make them finish 1 - 2 on the grid!  Would be awesome to see them win the constructors championship for this one and bring the momentum nexr year for Hamilton's arrival.  I'm gonna be no. 1 Hamilton itt for the 2025 season...  Grin  Just letting everyone know.

Rooting for him to break Schumacher's record with Ferrari.  It's gonna be a huge historic event for F1, as you guys already know.
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