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So now it has been confirmend.
The H-Day, Hamilton Day will be next week.
Benedetto Vigna CEO of Ferrari confirmed it.

Hamilton is also expexted to drive the F22 or F23, they have not decided yet which car.
After that he also may do a test in Barcelona.

As I understood since he is in a new car he should have a "bonus" of 1000km of tests with older cars.
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He also stated that Lewis has a chance to bounce back and will be slightly ahead of Charles at the end of the year. I think this is a nothing burger comment. The media is just trying to get a reaction from many parties and get some drama IMO. I'm pretty sure Lewis will try to get familiar with a new team or environment as quickly as possible.
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Small news.
Aston Martin has announced the reserve driver for the team in case Fernando Alonso or Lance Stroll will skip games.
Drugovich will continue to be the 3rd driver.
The seat as 3rd driver is shared with Stoffel Vandoorne.



Not really sure why Lawrence Stroll is keeping his son in there.  I think Lance Stroll's contract is gonna end at 2026..?  He's clearly a liability in the team and if ever Adrian Newey designs a season winning car, would Lance Stroll really have the driving ability to win races consistently every GP?  I doubt it.  But I def would love to see it for shts and gigz.  Cheesy

I guess it would somewhat get the question up again if Vettel was really a good driver or was it all Newey's designs.  Grin Grin

But yeah...  Stroll title contender.  I am here for it.
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Well yeah I think everyone know it.
It will be not easy for Hamilton keep the pace of Leclerc.
Charles is in Ferrrari for over 5 years now I believe.

He knows the car like his pants, he knows the people in Ferrari, he knows who can talk with for everything.

Lewis will need a lot of adaptation, I will be surprised if he can stay under 2/10 in the first months.
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Rosberg, a former F1 driver and rival of Lewis Hamilton, said that Charles has a great chance of beating his performance in 2025. He warned that Lewis' journey in F1 was not as smooth as he expected, because Charles is also not an ordinary driver and he has built a reputation in F1 as a good driver, even there Rosberg said clearly "So if it's as of today, then Charles will beat him in the same way as George Russell is beating him - but Lewis is the greatest of all time." That shows how Rosberg sees that Lewis will still struggle in F1 even when he has moved to Ferrari.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-hamilton-george-russell-ferrari-warning-nico-rosberg
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After seeing the livery of the Trackhouse Racing team for the 2025 season where the team still uses the Aprilia engine brand and also the livery of the Aprilia manufacturer itself for this season, it seems like it just looks ordinary even though it is not that striking, especially for the Aprilia factory team itself there are no more changes to their livery but only changes in the aerodynamic area. And other news tomorrow there will be another independent team like Gresini Racing which will also launch its livery which will take place in Italy.
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Small news.
Aston Martin has announced the reserve driver for the team in case Fernando Alonso or Lance Stroll will skip games.
Drugovich will continue to be the 3rd driver.
The seat as 3rd driver is shared with Stoffel Vandoorne.

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Tomorrow there will be a launch of one of the teams that are still competing in the MotoGP event this season, namely the Trackhouse Racing team which is located in Charlotte, United States. And actually I'm not that curious about the livery of the team because the team is an independent team that uses engines from other manufacturers and after the launch of the Trackhouse Racing team, the next two days will be continued with the launch of the Aprilia Racing team which is located in Milan, Italy. That's a little news that I read on medcom.id
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F1's biggest team sponsors in 2025
Sponsor   Team   Value
Oracle   Red Bull   $100m
HP   Ferrari   $100m
Aramco   Aston Martin   $75m
Petronas   Mercedes   $70m
Stake   Sauber   $50m

I don't think that the other are known.


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1061793/1/f1s-five-biggest-team-sponsors-2025

I didn't expected so much money from HP to be honest.

I thought that Petronas and Oracle were the most expensive partnerships in F1, but HP actually paid more to be able to sponsor Ferrari, but that's reasonable considering that Ferrari is a legendary team and the exposure that HP can get when they sponsor a team that big. Moreover, now that F1 is expanding to America, it will increase HP's exposure as a good electronic brand in the American market, especially F1 fans.

but indeed the HP and Ferrari partnership is quite funny, because maybe in one or two races Ferrari will change their car to blue just for this partnership, and their livery is very bad and not special at all. Maybe Ferrari should consider how to design their livery, so that it looks more acceptable to F1 fans, especially Tifosi.
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I didn't expected so much money from HP to be honest.

Me too... I've always seen HP as a more "shy" sponsor, but this partnership is not new... it started, if I'm not mistaken, in 2024 at the Miami GP when HP became Ferrari's master sponsor.

Now with this partnership called “Scuderia Ferrari HP”, HP strengthens its visibility in the sport with a strong presence on the cars and drivers' uniforms, in addition to financing essential technological advances to maintain Ferrari's competitiveness in Formula 1.

Good for both sides, as this investment not only reinforces the team's presence in the races, but also boosts the popularity of the sponsoring brand.

With the robust financing guaranteed by these agreements, the 2025 season certainly promises to be competitive, with teams seeking to maximize the return on their sponsors' investment... I expect an exciting and more competitive championship this year.

I'm still mad with Ferrari.
Hp is a full blue sponsor.
To celebrate this partenship they could painted the entire car in Blue for 1 race.
Imagine the martketing for the years to come, the only time in 50 years we got a blue Ferrari.

Instead they used a blue coverall and only a small logo in the car.
MADNESS
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I didn't expected so much money from HP to be honest.

Me too... I've always seen HP as a more "shy" sponsor, but this partnership is not new... it started, if I'm not mistaken, in 2024 at the Miami GP when HP became Ferrari's master sponsor.

Now with this partnership called “Scuderia Ferrari HP”, HP strengthens its visibility in the sport with a strong presence on the cars and drivers' uniforms, in addition to financing essential technological advances to maintain Ferrari's competitiveness in Formula 1.

Good for both sides, as this investment not only reinforces the team's presence in the races, but also boosts the popularity of the sponsoring brand.

With the robust financing guaranteed by these agreements, the 2025 season certainly promises to be competitive, with teams seeking to maximize the return on their sponsors' investment... I expect an exciting and more competitive championship this year.
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F1's biggest team sponsors in 2025
Sponsor   Team   Value
Oracle   Red Bull   $100m
HP   Ferrari   $100m
Aramco   Aston Martin   $75m
Petronas   Mercedes   $70m
Stake   Sauber   $50m

I don't think that the other are known.


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1061793/1/f1s-five-biggest-team-sponsors-2025

I didn't expected so much money from HP to be honest.
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Horner spoken again about Verstappent his time.
He said that when the fun will be not there for Max, then Max will leave the F1.

This is not the 1st time I hear about a possible leaving for him in the past few years.

What if he will leave in 2026?

If he leaves Red Bull then we'll prolly see a couple of teams that will surely try their best to acquire him.  I'm pretty sure these teams will Mercedes and Aston Martin.  And it's prolly gonna be the latter who's totally gonna be more aggressive in getting him to sign the dotted line.  If Ferrari didn't sign Hamilton it would've been that team too.  But who knows, we've seen this kind of thing happen before when two top tier drivers drive for one team.  I think that would be the best pairing for F1 fans...  Hamilton and Verstappen in Ferrari.

Make it happen in my life time please.  Grin  I promise I'll be good if it does.
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For a competitive driver like Verstappen yeah it wouldn't be surprising like I said before. He only wants to have a competitive car for the title. If he doesn't get it then he would say goodbye. I believe he doesn't feel anything special for Red Bull itself. He just likes to work with Helmut Marko there. But after losing their best engineer Adrian Newey to Aston Martin, I'm really curious what Red Bull will do from now on.  Sad

Honda will also stop providing engine for Red Bull at the end of 2025 season as a reminder. Bringing the pieces together, I think Red Bull won't be the same as of 2026 season. Even now they lost a lot of power and finished last season as the 3rd constructor.

That is weird.
Other drivers in the past were very competitive but they raced anyway.
Taking for example only past world champions, Alonso and Vetter were supercompetitive, expecially the second one but they raced for many years.

Max is quite different with his unique personality.,
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Horner spoken again about Verstappent his time.
He said that when the fun will be not there for Max, then Max will leave the F1.

This is not the 1st time I hear about a possible leaving for him in the past few years.

What if he will leave in 2026?

For a competitive driver like Verstappen yeah it wouldn't be surprising like I said before. He only wants to have a competitive car for the title. If he doesn't get it then he would say goodbye. I believe he doesn't feel anything special for Red Bull itself. He just likes to work with Helmut Marko there. But after losing their best engineer Adrian Newey to Aston Martin, I'm really curious what Red Bull will do from now on.  Sad

Honda will also stop providing engine for Red Bull at the end of 2025 season as a reminder. Bringing the pieces together, I think Red Bull won't be the same as of 2026 season. Even now they lost a lot of power and finished last season as the 3rd constructor.
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He said that when the fun will be not there for Max, then Max will leave the F1.
I believe that's the right decision. There's no point to continue working if the environment is not suitable for you, especially when you already made a bank from it. I also read that he threatened to leave Red Bull too, so who knows whether he will try to find a new team or join a new competition after that. The rumor changed heavily so I can't say for certain whether they have any merit or not. I doubt he will stay away from racing for a long time anyway. CMIIW.
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Horner spoken again about Verstappent his time.
He said that when the fun will be not there for Max, then Max will leave the F1.

This is not the 1st time I hear about a possible leaving for him in the past few years.

What if he will leave in 2026?
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Ah, no...  Whoever that team mate will ever be, the decision making for the car will always be made around Verstappen and his style of driving.  That obv why all of his team mates after Ricciardo couldn't drive the car as well as Verstappen because it suits his style. 

Well..  Maybe if Red Bull acquired Lewis Hamilton, then yeah, there will be problems.  Lol.  But any other driver, it will be all about Max Verstappen.

Exatly, this is why I said he do not want to be a competitive driver.
He wants the car build for him, for his stily with exactly the amount of traction  he wanted and dosen't matter if the other drive can drive.

Liam will be sacrificed too.


Yeah but the thing is, who is a competitive driver for Verstappen if not only Lewis Hamilton..?  I just said Hamilton just to make a point.  Any other driver even Leclerc couldn't do anything to change stuff around the design and the tweaks with their car.

So the other drivers should put up with what will be given to them by the team, even if it's Carlos Sainz.  It's not about the 'threat' because there is no threat for Max Verstappen.
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F1 extended contract with Spa track until 2031:
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13285344/belgian-gp-formula-1-agrees-extension-for-spa-francorchamps-race-on-rotational-basis-until-2031
Everything would be great, but there is one detail - this contract is on rotational basis, what means that there won't be race on this track on 2028 and 2030. Difficult to imagine F1 calendar without one of best tracks.

Yes, this is mixed news because on the one hand it is great to know that the Spa-Francorchamps track will continue to be part of the F1 calendar until 203, but on the other hand the fact that the contract is rotating and there will be no race in 2028 and 2030 is a detail that leaves a bitter taste... I agree with you that it is difficult to imagine F1 without the presence of the Spa track, which is one of the most iconic and emotional in the sport.

Let's agree that it has a "natural beauty" with its hills and challenging corners, Spa is always very competitive and exciting, with many opportunities for overtaking and twists and turns.

But I try to look on the bright side because it is likely that the decision to make a rotating contract was made to allow other tracks to be included in the F1 calendar, which could be good news for fans from other tracks and countries.
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Ah, no...  Whoever that team mate will ever be, the decision making for the car will always be made around Verstappen and his style of driving.  That obv why all of his team mates after Ricciardo couldn't drive the car as well as Verstappen because it suits his style. 

Well..  Maybe if Red Bull acquired Lewis Hamilton, then yeah, there will be problems.  Lol.  But any other driver, it will be all about Max Verstappen.

Exatly, this is why I said he do not want to be a competitive driver.
He wants the car build for him, for his stily with exactly the amount of traction  he wanted and dosen't matter if the other drive can drive.

Liam will be sacrificed too.
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