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Marc Marquez is in top form again in Malaysia and leads the fastest times in practice ahead of his Ducati team-mates, it will be hard to beat him there, Ducati will be unbeatable, but it will be exciting to see which Ducati rider will be in front the next days.
A little correction from me, Not in Malaysia, but it is located in Thailand with the name of the circuit is Chang, while the race in Malaysia will start at the beginning of next month or more precisely on November 1 this year. Yes it is true that Marquez was extraordinary in today's Practice at the Chang circuit in Thailand because he was able to record his best time so that he was in first position and qualified for Q2. For tomorrow I will also see how fast each rider who qualified for Q2 is because there are several riders who are quite strong in terms of their time records at the Chang circuit in Thailand today.
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Marc Marquez is in top form again in Malaysia and leads the fastest times in practice ahead of his Ducati team-mates, it will be hard to beat him there, Ducati will be unbeatable, but it will be exciting to see which Ducati rider will be in front the next days.
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bezzecchi was wrong because he clearly hit vinales at high speed and it was a fatal incident, fortunately vinales did not suffer any serious injuries. so the steward's decision to sanction bezzecchi was very fair. but i'm quite surprised why bezzecchi felt like a victim here, even though he was clearly guilty of the incident, especially since he mentioned vinales' attitude after the incident, did he expect vinales to be happy after what happened? it's just funny to see bezzecchi like this.
It seems that you only understand the punishment given by the steward to Bezzecchi, but you really don't see that their positions are very close and what caused the incident to happen was because the first corner didn't have to use the brakes too deep so Bezzecchi only braked a little without considering the distance with Vinales. And for Vinales' attitude of sticking up his middle finger to Bezzecchi, I think that's very excessive because the incident was not intentional by Bezzecchi so you also have to understand this so as not to blame one party and justify the other party with illogical reasons.
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side news.
Kimi Antonelli will race in FP1 over Hamilton during the Mexico City Gran Prix.
This is nothing against Hamilton, by FIA regulation teams must run hours in FP1 with rookie drivers during the year.

Wheater will be sunny for the full weekend according to google.
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Its already time for next race.
This time they will race in Mexico.
Max is leading with 54 points ahead of Lando Norris.
Behind them we have Leclerc.

For him and for Ferrari the chances to win the title are not over but very improbable, especially for the driver champions looks like it is almost over.
For the constructor championship they have more odds if the car will perform with no updates like it did in the past month.

I guess the ban of parts for RBR and Mclaren counts like free upgrades on Ferrari  Grin


I think for the driver's championship, it's starting to be a lock for Verstappen unless he DNF's a couple of races. But it's unlikely to happen.  Best Leclerc can hope for is the second spot in the driver's standings...  As for the constructors' championship, dunno...  At this point of the season, it's already McLaren.  But there's really a good chance that Ferrari gets the second spot from Red Bull.  At least I think so, not sure about the rest of you guys.

It's starting to look like the bookies have no idea to line the drivers.  Lol.  The lines for Leclerc, Norris and Verstappen are 3.35, 3.45 and 4.00.  Lolol.  Am gonna bet on Perez podium finish at 13.00.  Grin Grin
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Speaking of Moto GP, I saw the accident live during the sprint race between Bezzecchi and Vinales. It's truly terrifying. By reading more in depth I discovered that the Italian rider was practically penalized. In your opinion, is this the right choice?

bezzecchi was wrong because he clearly hit vinales at high speed and it was a fatal incident, fortunately vinales did not suffer any serious injuries. so the steward's decision to sanction bezzecchi was very fair. but i'm quite surprised why bezzecchi felt like a victim here, even though he was clearly guilty of the incident, especially since he mentioned vinales' attitude after the incident, did he expect vinales to be happy after what happened? it's just funny to see bezzecchi like this.
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Another early mistake by Marquez but he could come back perfectly although he needed to wait till the last 3-4 laps to overtake Martin.
Now after the Australia Race, Martin is able to increase the gap to Pecco as now the gap is 20 points.
With 3 remaining Races (correct me if I'm wrong), Pecco will need to work hard to boost his performance up in the last 3 races if he want to make a champion hattrick.
Although the competition for the championship title can be said as between Pecco and Martin only, but other riders such as Marquez and Enea may give significant effect for Pecco and Martin while they are competing for the World Champion title.
That is true and even Pecco must be able to finish in front of Martin in the remaining three races of this season including the Sprint as well because the 20 point gap is quite crucial for Pecco because Martin is also a strong rider this season and other disturbances that can also come for Pecco through Bastianini and Marquez in the three races.

Speaking of Moto GP, I saw the accident live during the sprint race between Bezzecchi and Vinales. It's truly terrifying. By reading more in depth I discovered that the Italian rider was practically penalized. In your opinion, is this the right choice?
Such a penalty is a very common penalty and indeed deserved by Bezzecchi due to the incident. So things like this actually don't need to be questioned anymore because the MotoGp organizers also know how to take action on every incident that occurs in the race because they also do research after the incident. This week MotoGp will be held again at the Chang Circuit in Thailand and hopefully there will be no terrible incidents for all riders in every session.

For Bagnaia it's going to be close for a long time, he's only 20 points behind, but there are only 3 races left, so the world championship can still be very close, for us as spectators, I certainly hope that Bagnaia can make up some points in Malaysia.
I even hope Bagnaia can close the gap when racing this week at the Chang circuit in Thailand because Bagnaia needs to close the gap slowly until the end of the season through Sprint and also through full races in the three remaining races. This means that Bagnaia must not make any mistakes in the three remaining races so that he can close the gap with Martin because the three races at the end of the season are so crucial for riders who are competing for the title this season.
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Its already time for next race.
This time they will race in Mexico.
Max is leading with 54 points ahead of Lando Norris.
Behind them we have Leclerc.

For him and for Ferrari the chances to win the title are not over but very improbable, especially for the driver champions looks like it is almost over.
For the constructor championship they have more odds if the car will perform with no updates like it did in the past month.

I guess the ban of parts for RBR and Mclaren counts like free upgrades on Ferrari  Grin
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Today Marquez was really amazing in running the race even though he had a bad start because of a tear off from his helmet visor that he threw on the circuit before the start. But he was able to recover his position and overtake every rider in front of him until he fought with Pecco and Martin until the end of the lap. This is definitely amazing because he is really able to master the layout of the Australian circuit so well that he was able to close the gap with every rider in front of him to become the winner in today's race.

Even if I personally don't like it that much, Marquez shows that he (even if I think Martin is the better candidate) has a right to second place in the Ducati factory team.

For Bagnaia it's going to be close for a long time, he's only 20 points behind, but there are only 3 races left, so the world championship can still be very close, for us as spectators, I certainly hope that Bagnaia can make up some points in Malaysia.
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Speaking of Moto GP, I saw the accident live during the sprint race between Bezzecchi and Vinales. It's truly terrifying. By reading more in depth I discovered that the Italian rider was practically penalized. In your opinion, is this the right choice?
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^  Looks like with Red Bull on the decline and with McLaren not having their technical loop hole, it's the Ferraris that could take advantage of the situation rn.  Next race will be at Mexico...  Let's see if Ferrari does well again because the thing with them is just as when you start to think that they're gonna start getting some momentum, they fumble at the next race.  So we'll see.

Next race's schedule...

2024 F1 Mexican GP Schedule
Track:  Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez



Oct 25:  Practice 1  12:30 - 13:30
Oct 25:  Practice 2  16:00 - 17:00
Oct 26:  Practice 3  11:30 - 12:30
Oct 26:  Qualifying  15:00 - 16:00
Oct 27:  Race  14:00
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Ferrari really showed how to best outsmart the performance of RBR and McLaren, and the result was P1-P2 for Ferrari, even with zero upgrades, this is the result that the Tifosi were hoping for. As for Norris and Max, it seems they still hold grudges, as we saw in the last laps they really cut each other, and unfortunately Norris got a penalty for that - but it was a really exciting show. As for Colapinto and Lawson, it seems their potential is really there, as they were able to outperform their team-mates and make some pretty clever cuts at times - if they were given more chances in F1 they seem to be good drivers. Overall I would say it was a really exciting race.
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Best sprint race ever yesterday in Austin.
These 19 laps of F1 were quite intense and proved once again that Norris is not ready to become World Champion.
Once again under pressure he faied and almost ended his race if Leclerc wasn't ready to break to avoid the contact.

Strong performance for Sainz, it will be a fun race today.

And what happened in today's official race confirms what you say, because in my opinion the penalty was well deserved, since Norris was overtaking Verstappen on the outside of the curve, but he wasn't ahead when they reached the Apex. He then missed the right-hand corner of the curve, leaving the track and returning in front of Max, which is identified as taking advantage after leaving the track.

And the penalty was still quite lenient, because in these cases the regulations say that the recommended penalty would be to add 10 seconds, but the stewards chose to add only 5 and the justification for this is that Norris had few alternatives other than to leave the track due to his proximity to Max, who also left the track.

Anyway, the footage of the incident doesn't lie and I believe that the penalty applied was correct and Norris still needs to try a little harder if he wants to be a world champion someday.
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Have you seen the start of the Moto GP race and what happened to Marquez?
Never seen something like that since I started watching races.

Anyway for Bagnaia now it will be hard, Martin has almost 1 race of advantage.
90% of the time I think, at this point Martin will win the championship.

And next year Mark will be on the red Ducati so even harder time for the italuan.
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He could be the winner if he did not make that mistake because the last gap to Martin was less than 2 seconds IIRC.
Hope Marq will be able to fight better tomorrow with no mistake and I hope to watch some riders to overtake each other.
Enea Bastianini also did it well today as he could finish 3rd while he started the race from 10th, he was unable to catch Marq after Marq overtook him earlier.
Probably the podium for tomorrow Race will not be different with the Sprint Race which are between the current top 4 riders in the standing unless there will be some accidents happen to those top 4 riders.
Today Marquez was really amazing in running the race even though he had a bad start because of a tear off from his helmet visor that he threw on the circuit before the start. But he was able to recover his position and overtake every rider in front of him until he fought with Pecco and Martin until the end of the lap. This is definitely amazing because he is really able to master the layout of the Australian circuit so well that he was able to close the gap with every rider in front of him to become the winner in today's race.

Another early mistake by Marquez but he could come back perfectly although he needed to wait till the last 3-4 laps to overtake Martin.
Now after the Australia Race, Martin is able to increase the gap to Pecco as now the gap is 20 points.
With 3 remaining Races (correct me if I'm wrong), Pecco will need to work hard to boost his performance up in the last 3 races if he want to make a champion hattrick.
Although the competition for the championship title can be said as between Pecco and Martin only, but other riders such as Marquez and Enea may give significant effect for Pecco and Martin while they are competing for the World Champion title.

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Best sprint race ever yesterday in Austin.
These 19 laps of F1 were quite intense and proved once again that Norris is not ready to become World Champion.
Once again under pressure he faied and almost ended his race if Leclerc wasn't ready to break to avoid the contact.

Strong performance for Sainz, it will be a fun race today.
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He could be the winner if he did not make that mistake because the last gap to Martin was less than 2 seconds IIRC.
Hope Marq will be able to fight better tomorrow with no mistake and I hope to watch some riders to overtake each other.
Enea Bastianini also did it well today as he could finish 3rd while he started the race from 10th, he was unable to catch Marq after Marq overtook him earlier.
Probably the podium for tomorrow Race will not be different with the Sprint Race which are between the current top 4 riders in the standing unless there will be some accidents happen to those top 4 riders.
Today Marquez was really amazing in running the race even though he had a bad start because of a tear off from his helmet visor that he threw on the circuit before the start. But he was able to recover his position and overtake every rider in front of him until he fought with Pecco and Martin until the end of the lap. This is definitely amazing because he is really able to master the layout of the Australian circuit so well that he was able to close the gap with every rider in front of him to become the winner in today's race.
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Stewards of MotoGP postponed the decision in the collision between Bezzecchi and Vinales to Sunday due the medical condition of the italian who left the track for hostital for deeper investigation.

Anyway, victory for Martin and 4th place for Bagnaia in the sprint race at Philiphs Island.

Martin is now leading with 16 points.
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2024 F1 United States Grand Prix sprint race - Starting grid
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing
2   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari
4   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari
6   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team
8   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team
9   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team
10   Franco Colapinto   ARG   Williams Racing
11   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing
12   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team
14   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team
15   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team
16   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team
17   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team
18   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing
19   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1058053/1/starting-grid-f1-united-states-grand-prix-sprint-race

Unexpected pole for Verstappen.

It think it could be an incident on 1st turn with Russell...

It seems Max is starting to get his confidence back seeing how he managed to get P1 in the sprint qualifying - and I'm pretty sure he can win the sprint session too. For the race session itself I'm still waiting, because maybe Charles or Norris can change the situation and come up with a different strategy, but I still see Max having a chance to get P1 in the race too. Yeah, the race looks like it's going to be pretty exciting, but unfortunately it's going to start early in the morning in my time, hopefully I'll be awake to watch it.
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As for Marquez himself who had slipped when entering the first corner on the first lap, he was also able to improve his position quite nicely. Because he is really quite friendly with the track conditions in Australia today and I think for tomorrow Marquez could fight for victory because he has a pretty good time record at the Phillip Island circuit in Australia during his career.

He could be the winner if he did not make that mistake because the last gap to Martin was less than 2 seconds IIRC.
Hope Marq will be able to fight better tomorrow with no mistake and I hope to watch some riders to overtake each other.
Enea Bastianini also did it well today as he could finish 3rd while he started the race from 10th, he was unable to catch Marq after Marq overtook him earlier.
Probably the podium for tomorrow Race will not be different with the Sprint Race which are between the current top 4 riders in the standing unless there will be some accidents happen to those top 4 riders.
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