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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 02, 2025, 06:31:34 AM

The aim is going for 30 races per year in a few years.
The schedule is ok, dirvers can't complain.

They earn a lot of money, an amount of money that we can't even have in 100 lives time spawn and they ear it per year.

If they are not ok with it they can leave the F1 and do a normal job for 2-3k per month when they are lucky to have one.

I totally agree with you though. And I wouldn't say no to watching 30 races per season honestly. Grin

It would be a feast for us. They would need to make it more tight or cut from the gap between 2 seasons. It is up to them to decide which way it would be.

We are really talking about huge numbers indeed. Especially the most renowned and successful drivers are making an unbelievable amount of money. Every amount can be spent completely actually but it is up to how you live of course. I don't think any of them are complaining about their job that much at the same time. You are one of the 20 drivers on the grid, just think about that.

Only 20 people are hired for this job which sounds really insane. The salary is also according to that as a result.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 02, 2025, 04:09:45 AM

Hamilton hype is increasing for Ferrari.
The driver is now spreading red in his instagram and Ferrari his posting more about him.
Few days left and Lewis will be officially in Italy.

His first drive will be with an old Ferrari this month in the track of Fiorano.

HE cannot use cars of the last 2 years.

I hope he'll also be in one of those old Ferraris with the V8. I miss that sound... The real F1 sound that you hear and say 'aaahh yeah, that's an F1 car'. Cars today are sound like whatever. It's on of the things that made less interested in F1 for a time. It's just the sound is part of F1's brand as a sport. Change it drastically and it's must not the same.

Anyway, Crash ranked next year's driver line ups. And the best pairing is... Hamilton and Leclerc, followed by McLaren's Norris and Piastri then Verstappen and Lawson. This should be good. Wink

https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/1061752/1/ranking-2025-f1-driver-line-ups-worst-best

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Doohan future in F1 it may not be so clear.
The executive advisor Flavio Briatore spoken to the mics about the driver future.

He basically said that they will start the season with Gasly and Jack and they are sure about it.
But he also said that after the start of the season they will see the performance and they will decide.

So TLDR Doohan is not a long term project and he will easily replaced if he will be not good since the start of the season.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 02, 2025, 06:31:34 AM

The aim is going for 30 races per year in a few years.
The schedule is ok, dirvers can't complain.

They earn a lot of money, an amount of money that we can't even have in 100 lives time spawn and they ear it per year.

If they are not ok with it they can leave the F1 and do a normal job for 2-3k per month when they are lucky to have one.

I read that now there is no aim to reach 30 races per season. 24 or 25 races is optimal number. Yeah, more races - more money, but also expenses for teams would increase too. And having 30 races would cause difficulties in terms of logistics, also, in some places (Canada, city circuits) you can't race whenever you want.
They're also going to introduce rotations between some tracks every season.

Quote from: FanEagle on January 02, 2025, 09:33:53 AM

To be fair Bottas being a third driver is not really a good thing for Bottas at all, that's literally where careers go to die. I mean look at Daniel Ricardo, dude was third driver for Red Bull, which ended up giving him even a chance to drive at sister team, but he just retired after a while because it's clear if you are not good enough to be a good driver at a team, you just become third driver and that's just mean you are not good enough anymore.

Bottas didn't do well this season but Sauber wasn't a good car this year so that is why he didn't do that well, not because he was bad, so I do not understand why they did that. Plus, we are talking about Mercedes getting a kid out of f2 to put into the team, how could that kid be better than the dude that was there for many championship years for Mercedes? I mean there is no way possible that Bottas became that much worse than his years at Mercedes, dude was great there and for some reason they think it would be impossible for him to be still be that good.

Offcourse that becoming 3rd driver isn't preferred thing, but he didn't had other better options. Yeah, probably he would be safer and better option than some youngsters, but teams made their choice. Still, becoming 3rd driver doesn't means end of career. Not talking about about legends like Alonso or Schumacher, but even drivers like Magnussen or Kubica managed to make return after break.

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We will definitely see Hamilton do a lot better with Ferrari then people expect, and I am sure that he is going to be happy there too because everyone loves to race for Ferrari, he is just going to face some trouble adjusting and getting a bit more ready. I am not saying that would be too bad or too great, this isn't about how good or bad it is, it's just different.

I mean everyone loves to be in a Ferrari" turns out to be a correct quote, even when you fight against Ferrari all your career, you end up still loving them and going for them. I think it is going to end not so great though, I feel like without Bono, and without the team he is used to, Hamilton may not get the results he really wants and he might end up with quite bad racing results as well.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 02, 2025, 04:39:45 AM

Another season with 24 races... This time it looks like there are 2 big breaks and both of them are going to be in the summer. Last season the breaks were bigger than that which I found meaningless.

I know that it is a tight schedule for drivers and teams when there are 24 races of course. But having like 3 or more breaks which are one-month long isn't very ideal. The gap between the end of that season and the beginning of the next one is also getting narrower. Sad

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As coinlocket$ said, F1's decision is final and the drivers can't complain about the schedule, especially since many countries want to host F1 in their country, and maybe in a few years the number of races will increase. It's their risk that when they enter the world of F1 they have to sacrifice many things, because this is a sport that many people dream of, if they feel that the schedule is getting tight, they can choose to retire early from F1 and find a more relaxed job for them. It all goes back to the driver, no one forces them to race in F1.

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To be fair Bottas being a third driver is not really a good thing for Bottas at all, that's literally where careers go to die. I mean look at Daniel Ricardo, dude was third driver for Red Bull, which ended up giving him even a chance to drive at sister team, but he just retired after a while because it's clear if you are not good enough to be a good driver at a team, you just become third driver and that's just mean you are not good enough anymore.

Bottas didn't do well this season but Sauber wasn't a good car this year so that is why he didn't do that well, not because he was bad, so I do not understand why they did that. Plus, we are talking about Mercedes getting a kid out of f2 to put into the team, how could that kid be better than the dude that was there for many championship years for Mercedes? I mean there is no way possible that Bottas became that much worse than his years at Mercedes, dude was great there and for some reason they think it would be impossible for him to be still be that good.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 02, 2025, 04:39:45 AM

New Year new calendar

Another season with 24 races... This time it looks like there are 2 big breaks and both of them are going to be in the summer. Last season the breaks were bigger than that which I found meaningless.

I know that it is a tight schedule for drivers and teams when there are 24 races of course. But having like 3 or more breaks which are one-month long isn't very ideal. The gap between the end of that season and the beginning of the next one is also getting narrower. Sad

When it comes to the Hamilton hype, things are going on just as we expected. It is one of the biggest transfers in Ferrari history in the end. Having a 7-time world champion in your team is something really special.

The aim is going for 30 races per year in a few years.
The schedule is ok, dirvers can't complain.

They earn a lot of money, an amount of money that we can't even have in 100 lives time spawn and they ear it per year.

If they are not ok with it they can leave the F1 and do a normal job for 2-3k per month when they are lucky to have one.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 01, 2025, 07:24:45 AM

New Year new calendar

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Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046705/1/f1-2025-calendar-full-schedule-and-dates-every-race

Another season with 24 races... This time it looks like there are 2 big breaks and both of them are going to be in the summer. Last season the breaks were bigger than that which I found meaningless.

I know that it is a tight schedule for drivers and teams when there are 24 races of course. But having like 3 or more breaks which are one-month long isn't very ideal. The gap between the end of that season and the beginning of the next one is also getting narrower. Sad

When it comes to the Hamilton hype, things are going on just as we expected. It is one of the biggest transfers in Ferrari history in the end. Having a 7-time world champion in your team is something really special.

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Hamilton hype is increasing for Ferrari.
The driver is now spreading red in his instagram and Ferrari his posting more about him.
Few days left and Lewis will be officially in Italy.

His first drive will be with an old Ferrari this month in the track of Fiorano.

HE cannot use cars of the last 2 years.

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The MotoGP calendar for the 2025 season has also been released since yesterday and for this season there are 22 MotoGP race series because of the additions such as the Balaton Park circuit in Hungary and also the return of the Automotodrom Brno circuit in the Czech Republic this season so that it has made the race 22 series. And for the first race this season it will start at the Chang International circuit in Thailand, to be more precise, you can see it on the official website directly --> https://www.motogp.com/id/calendar

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New Year new calendar

F1 2025 calendar: Full schedule and every date of every race
Round   Grand Prix   Venue   Date
Round 1   Australia   Melbourne   March 14-16
Round 2   China   Shanghai   March 21-23
Round 3   Japan   Suzuka   April 4-6
Round 4   Bahrain   Sakhir   April 11-13
Round 5   Saudi Arabia   Jeddah   April 18-20
Round 6   Miami   Miami   May 2-4
Round 7   Emilia-Romagna   Imola   May 16-18
Round 8   Monaco   Monaco   May 23-25
Round 9   Spain   Barcelona   May 30-June 1
Round 10   Canada   Montreal   June 13-15
Round 11   Austria   Spielberg   June 27-29
Round 12   United Kingdom   Silverstone   July 4-6
Round 13   Belgium   Spa   July 25-27
Round 14   Hungary   Budapest   August 1-3
Round 15   Netherlands   Zandvoort   August 29-31
Round 16   Italy   Monza   September 5-7
Round 17   Azerbaijan   Baku   September 19-21
Round 18   Singapore   Singapore   October 3-5
Round 19   USA   Austin   October 17-19
Round 20   Mexico   Mexico City   October 24-26
Round 21   Brazil   Sao Paulo   November 7-9
Round 22   Las Vegas   Las Vegas   November 20-22
Round 23   Qatar   Lusail   November 28-30
Round 24   Abu Dhabi   Yas Marina   December 5-7

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046705/1/f1-2025-calendar-full-schedule-and-dates-every-race

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^ Bottas doesn't deserve the attention... Not even the hour glass. Lolol. Grin

It's prolly something else... Like a signing a high profile engineer?

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2024, 11:37:01 AM

Yeah Bottas is officially going to be the 3rd driver for Mercedes as of next season.

Bottas didn't have a great relationship in his last times at Mercedes before leaving as far as I can remember. But maybe they just worked it out and he is happy now. It would be good to have an experienced reserve driver like Bottas honestly. Especially while you have a rookie in one of your seats. Grin

We have no idea how Antonelli is going to start. We didn't watch him in a single F1 race unlike some rookies who experienced it and showed their skills.

But if you ask me, I would like to see Sainz instead of Bottas in case of deciding it is still early for Antonelli. Tongue

Because Sainz seems way more competitive than Bottas recently.

Ah damn... He prolly has an inkling that Antonelli might flop at the middle of next season..? Wink

But dunno. I think Bottas will be better off somewhere else like Red Bull tbqh. Help them be more consistent at every GP, unlike Perez who made the team lose the constructors' championship. If he could've finished close behind Verstappen at every race I think Red Bull would've won the 2024 constructors' trophy. But no... As Helmut Marko would say 'Perez might have drunk too much tequila again'. Cheesy

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Mercedes F1 just did a cryptic tweet on X.
They posted a hourglass with the date of 01/01/2025

Do you think is something related or just a clickbait?

Maybe something related to Bottas? Huh

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 29, 2024, 03:40:08 AM

I'm not sure about Sainz contract.
If I rememebr correctly he can leave at the end of the 2025 season.
I don't think that he can leave during the season if another team call him.
I mean it will be an incredible damage for Williams if it will happen, even if they can always call drivers like Colapinto if they have the necessity of doing so.

Yeah that's another thing to cause problems for Williams of course. Sad

However I can't stand watching Sainz drive a really slow car most probably. He shouldn't waste his skills there normally while he deserves to drive for top teams. Williams should just keep a decent reserve driver for such situation and they can take the seat in that case. But probably such move won't happen during the season like you said so...

I would like to see Colapinto in Formula 1 longer by the way. I think he isn't actually a bad driver. In case of being given more chances, I think he can be really useful. I remember his rookie mistakes at the same time but it happens with like every driver in Formula 1 history.

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I agree that Sainz to Mercedes would have made incredible sense, we have seen what Sainz can do with a young star that is seen as future of a franchise, he did that at Mclaren and Ferrari so far and he has done a wonderful job in both of them for this exact role. So if we could see Sainz go to Mercedes, he could spend at least 2-3 more seasons there and then maybe retire or look for another team.

Unfortunately that wasn't done, as far as we know Sainz is going to Williams, which makes no sense, he is much better than that, and considering the partnership between Mercedes and Williams, selecting to go with Antonelli makes no sense to me and definitely is a bad choice, but that is what they decided so we just have to respect and see if they made a right choice.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2024, 11:37:01 AM

But if you ask me, I would like to see Sainz instead of Bottas in case of deciding it is still early for Antonelli. Tongue

Because Sainz seems way more competitive than Bottas recently.

I'm not sure about Sainz contract.
If I rememebr correctly he can leave at the end of the 2025 season.
I don't think that he can leave during the season if another team call him.
I mean it will be an incredible damage for Williams if it will happen, even if they can always call drivers like Colapinto if they have the necessity of doing so.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2024, 11:37:01 AM

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But if you ask me, I would like to see Sainz instead of Bottas in case of deciding it is still early for Antonelli. Tongue

Because Sainz seems way more competitive than Bottas recently.

Bottas as a reserve driver is a reasonable option for Mercedes - even though he is not as competitive as in his early days, he has a fairly good performance, and he is suitable to fill the reserve driver position. And also why Mercedes did not consider Sainz to be their driver, it is because Sainz expects a long-term contract, while Mercedes itself wants to develop Antonelli into their future driver, where he is younger and has potential that can be developed. This consideration is a strong reason for Mercedes to close their doors to Sainz.

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Yeah Bottas is officially going to be the 3rd driver for Mercedes as of next season.

Bottas didn't have a great relationship in his last times at Mercedes before leaving as far as I can remember. But maybe they just worked it out and he is happy now. It would be good to have an experienced reserve driver like Bottas honestly. Especially while you have a rookie in one of your seats. Grin

We have no idea how Antonelli is going to start. We didn't watch him in a single F1 race unlike some rookies who experienced it and showed their skills.

But if you ask me, I would like to see Sainz instead of Bottas in case of deciding it is still early for Antonelli. Tongue

Because Sainz seems way more competitive than Bottas recently.

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 28, 2024, 06:54:38 AM

Bottas still has no drive for 2025? I think I heard somewhere that he'll be paired with Russell as Mercedes' No. 2 driver or it's just all talks and words swirling around at this point?

And if so, I guess there's still a chance that Bottas could end up with Red Bull as Verstappen's No. 2 driver? That would be very ideal imo, as they want the constructor's championship very badly. Perez just isn't good for a top team. And since he's a pay driver, he'll be good for smaller teams.

Bottas should be the 3rd drive of Mercedes for the next year.
He may have a shot of driving the Mercedes if Antonelli will fail the adaptation.
It should not happen since Antonelli is a very strong, but young driver.

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