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To be fair, Ferrari with 21 point difference is just 1-2 finish, if they do 1-2 finish then that would be 25 points and 18 points, a total of 43 points, and even if Mclaren ends up with 3-4th place, that would be 27 points, and the gap would be 16 points, hmm that doesn't work Okay Ferrari needs to get 1-2, and Mclaren could get 4th and 5th, in that case Mclaren gets 22 points, so the gap would be 21 points, just the difference, no idea what happens there in a tie situation to be fair, do they both get a cup?

In the end, this won't happen, not because of Mclaren or anything like that, but because I have zero doubt about how Ferrari will fail to finish this race 1-2, they are not good enough to make that happen at all.

Rumor has it that Perez will not be with RB next season if we look at his performance (https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/42733410/sergio-perez-set-leave-red-bull-end-season-sources) but this news is still unclear because RB is still considering many things from Perez, you know F1 is not just about talent, but it is also about politics and sponsorship, and Perez here brings some big sponsors who contribute a lot to RB, so they are still quite hesitant if they want to get him out.

This is a funny photo for today:

Mclaren definitely managed to figure out a way to get a lot better, and with that rear wing fixed now, they are not really that good, they are still good, just not dominating everyone like they did at the middle of the season, so they are not going to finish high up, that means Ferrari needs to do much better, I do not know what they can do, but at this point they can pay whatever fine they can and get whatever advantage they can, all the money in the world would worth it, they should figure out a way to make it happen. I know penalties is not good, but if they can spend money and somehow do better, then I think that would be a good idea without a doubt, they are definitely going to need that because they have a huge gap that needs to be fixed without a doubt.

21 points is no joke in a race, if it was two races I would be pretty sure that Ferrari would close it because Mclaren doesn't look that great, but 21 point gap seems like it would be not that easy, I think Mclaren will just win it.

The Qatar GP showed once again that Red Bull has two completely opposite drivers. Max Verstappen is a driver of such a tremendous level that he can go at a very high speed, fight for the lead and realize that the driver behind him has committed a yellow flag infringement. Sergio Perez, on the other hand, is far enough removed from the action to spin out at a very low speed behind the safety car and be out of the race. With McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes all expected to be competitive in the 2025 season, it's time for Red Bull to part ways with Sergio Perez.

1   
McLaren   640.00
2   
Ferrari   619.00
3   
Red Bull   581.00

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/championship_tables/content

Looks like we have 21 points now.

Ferrari can still win the title but they need a dominance over Mclaren or a DNF from them.
Gonna be hard

The race was not bad. At least I enjoyed it more than Las Vegas.    Verstappen was the biggest surprise of the weekend. Because he never looked fast until the qualifying session.

It was like he magically got much faster. He even won the race which was more surprising. He was quite frustrated with Russell though. It even led him to unfollow Russell on Instagram.


Ferrari still has a chance indeed. Apart from that, Leclerc also still has a chance to finish the season at the 2nd position.  



However if it weren't for Norris' penalty probably he was even going to win the race. This is why Leclerc will have a tough work to do not only for Ferrari's title but also for gaining a position in driver standings.

So I missed this one, as in totally missed it.  What's this words swirling around that Russell and Verstappen has an issue during quali and the stewards gave Russell Verstappen's spot on the grid after quali..?  And then Verstappen said something to Russel that he'll get his spot back after the first lap and actually doing it?    That's funny and a very bad look for Russell.  Lol.

Anyway, what are Ferrari's chances to get the constructor's championship at the last race in Abu Dhabi?  The bookies are saying it's not looking good for Ferrari.

The battle for the constructors' title continues in Abu Dhabi after Norris was given a 10-second penalty that cost McLaren the constructors' title in the race. Ferrari were fortunate enough to have Charles finish P2, although Sainz struggled to get P5 from Gasly, but at least he finished ahead of Norris. But the surprise was how Zhou finally scored for Sauber after finishing P8 in the race - he gave it his all and managed to score and that earned him a DOTD, which he deserved at the end of his remaining races this season. But this race was full of penalties and the FIA ​​did not seem to be on the side of the British driver, as they usually do.

And now we head to Abu Dhabi where the constructors' championship will be decided, with Ferrari only 21 points behind McLaren, it will be a gamble for Ferrari to see if they can get the title or not.

Ferrari is not strong in this track and now it is almost over after the sprint and the qualifying.
Mclaren is a bit stronger here and luckly for them they also have 1 more sprint race here for more points.

Ferrari needs a miracle now.

Tbh orders teams like these must be banned they ruins the sport.

The Sprint results have just come out with the two McLarens getting P1 and P2, that makes them get 15 new points and makes their total points 623. While Ferrari only managed to get 9 points in this Sprint and that makes their total points 593. So far that makes their points difference as much as 30 points. The fight for the world constructor title is getting more interesting, if McLaren can outscore Ferrari by 15 points in the next race, then the world champion title will be theirs to take home, but if on the contrary Ferrari wins the race later (although it won't be easy) then the fight will continue to the next race.

big pole position for Mclaren.
Big advantage versus Ferrari.

If nothing changes Mclaren will be the champions after sunday.
They supremacy proven today in this track is an huge advantage.

Colapinto's first debut was quite good, but in the last races he made a nightmare for the Williams team, it was a little bit of proof that he is still too early in F1 and needs to learn a lot. Compared to Colapinto, keeping Lawson is still a good option that RB can do, even though his performance is still quite ordinary, but I think if he is given time then he can improve his performance and he can be a good partner for Yuki.

2024 F1 Qatar Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (1)
Pos   Driver   Nat.   Team   Time
1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m21.953s
2   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.378s
3   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m22.425s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m22.535s
5   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m23.045s
6   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m23.064s
7   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m23.099s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m23.160s
9   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m23.161s
10   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m23.188s
11   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m23.213s
12   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m23.227s
13   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m23.245s
14   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App RB F1 Team   1m23.562s
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m23.620s
16   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m23.715s
17   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m23.880s
18   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m24.039s
19   Franco Colapinto   ARG   Williams Racing   1m24.200s
20   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m24.280s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1060873/1/2024-f1-qatar-grand-prix-friday-practice-results

Pace of Ferrari looks incredible so far.
The fight for the world championship is not over.

There is no rain expectation for the Qatar GP weekend. This track has been used for Formula 1 only twice so far. The winners were Hamilton (2021) and Verstappen (2023).

Verstappen is already the official champion of this season. I don't know how much he would push from now on. But considering his competitive nature I wouldn't expect him to be complacent. 

Norris couldn't make use of any of his chances to go for the title recently. I wonder how much he will perform in the remaining races to secure a title for his team at least.

^  Sponsor conflict or are they really blue balling us?  They know every F1 fan can't wait to see Hamilton in red.    Love him or hate him and love Ferrari or hate Ferrari, it's gonna be one of the most anticipated event in the sport...  Hamilton unveiling Ferrari's car for 2025.  

Would be neat if he finds instant success with the team.  But yeah...  How is Ferrari's CTO?  Is he any good?

Lewis Halilton looks like will be not in Abu Dabi f1 test with Ferrari.
Carlos Sainz will drive the Williams next month in the test post season.
It is a sponsor problem conflict.

It will almost impossible for Lewis drive the Ferrari next month however it is porbable that Hamilto will have a chance of driving the 2022 Ferrari at Ferrari private track.

Some tracks pay a lot of money to be there, whereas some tracks could be terrible and FIA will chase after them. Monza and Monaco are terrible tracks, for drivers of course, for us to watch it it's also quite boring to watch most of them and makes no sense, there are newer and much better tracks but for "historical reasons" they still keep using these tracks, makes no sense to me.

This sport will only grow if they could forget about the past and keep progressing. Look at Liberty Media, their Netflix show idea made them so much more famous and I believe we should consider something similar to that, it has to be quite powerful to have such good return in the end.

I believe we can't make anything else change but just watch them have a few boring races every season. At the end of the day, if those races gets much less viewership compared to other tracks, then eventually they will also stop being profitable as well, but Monaco have the advantage of rich people flocking in there, so they make their profit there easily.

I didn't mean that they would rotate with each other. I'm about this:
https://www.planetf1.com/features/ranked-european-f1-races-at-most-risk-of-calendar-rotation-policy
Imola probably is safe, while Monza is atvrisk to rotate their spot in calendar with tracks like Spa or Zandvoort.

Agree about Monza. Also would like to see German or Malaysian GP back on calendar, but unfortunately, it's all about the money and they can't offer it for F1.
I also not big fan of tracks in Middle East. While Macau, can't imagine F1 cars racing there . And it's not possible, as it's FIA Grade 2 track, while F1 track should be Grade 1.

Small rumors.
Colapinto is now rumored going to Visa Cash app for next year.
Schumacher will leave Mercedes at the end of the season and Bottas can join them.

The Hamilton day at Ferrari is still unknow, will it be next month?

Monza is one of those iconic tracks in F1 that shouldn't be removed from the F1 schedule imho.  Another track I wanna see come back is the one in the German GP.  They should sought out the guys who they need to talk to and try to get it back.

And the tracks I don't really care much for are those ones in the Middle East.  I think they should get back the Malaysian GP back too...  But that's just me.  A Macau GP would also be nice.  But not sure if they're track is up to par with F1's standards.