Leclerc will get 10 place grid penalty in Saudi Arabia race. It's only allowed to use 2 power unit control electronics components per season and Ferrari already done it 3 times. It's second race of season and Ferrari is starting to get penalties, it's just ridiculous.
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March 16, 2023, 06:47:32 AM
March 15, 2023, 05:40:11 PM
So this race it is almost impossible to get on the podium, in addition this engine is defective and can no longer be used? Would be the next presumed penalty after one race if the number of engines is exceeded during the season.
Not sure, in this track is kinda easy overtake if you have a top speed, they can go for Podium IMHO
March 15, 2023, 12:34:49 PM
I think Bagnaia did great last year and he will start building up on that which should be a great race for him if he is confident enough and does not go the extra mile with his Ducati already in the first race which can cost him a retirement or even worse.
In general Bagnaia has been very happy with the test results in Portugal and the Ducati bike he has been riding has also shown very serious improvement so he was very comfortable with the bike during the test. And this shows that the character of this year's Ducati GP23 motorbike is very suitable for Bagnaia's racing style so that the Italian rider and also the defending champion this season must still be taken into account in the first race which will also take place in Portugal.Quote
I have high hopes for Marquez,I don't know if he has recovered completely but despite the Honda not looking as good as Ducati I think a rider like Marquez has already demonstrated that he can ride that bike like no one else and this is enough for me to think that if he has truly recovered I think he may be aiming for the title this year in MotoGP.
If you were very serious about following the news about Marquez during the break or in the winter before the pre-season tests arrived until now, of course you will know that Marquez has completely recovered and he has been complaining more about his Honda motorbike. Because the steps taken by the Honda manufacturer are still very few so the increase is also not much even though the Honda manufacturer has used a swingarm from Kalex which Kalex will also design a chassis for Honda motorbikes this season although for a while Honda still has to use its own chassis because the chassis is The new Kalex can be used in the Jerez series later.
March 15, 2023, 12:27:54 PM
In any case, the relationship between Lewis Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes team is not good. Or rather bad. Hamilton has already spoken out after the first race that the management is a mess and that they gave him a bad car. He can't possibly continue to enjoy driving this car, it seems to me. Maybe a chance for Russell to show what he can do in this car. In the meantime, Red Bull will just rumble on and Ferrari actually seems to be the only competitor, if you can call that a competitor at all. Leclerc is the only one who can get a little closer to Verstappen, but the question is whether even that will succeed. Probably going to be 2 out of 2 for Verstappen this weekend.
March 15, 2023, 12:14:23 PM
Kinda like how it was last year? It could happen but dunno... The new cars seem to have everything in order except for a couple of adjustments in the upper midtable, like Aston Martin getting replaced by Mercedes by the time the GP's go to Europe?
I feel like Mercedes' engineering team are too good to be beaten by the likes of Aston Martin. But it's a good start and it's good to see imho. The team I want to see rise on the grid is Williams.
The problem for Mercedes is that Aston Martin engineers are not Aston Martin engineers, it was the red bull engineers that walked away and joined Aston Martin and that caused the special betterment of the car suddenly. That type of improvement doesn't happen suddenly just because your engineers figured something out, they literally replaced a whole set of engineers with new ones from red bull, and those engineers knew the secret of redbull and how they got so fast, and used the same thing on Aston martin.I feel like Mercedes' engineering team are too good to be beaten by the likes of Aston Martin. But it's a good start and it's good to see imho. The team I want to see rise on the grid is Williams.
By the looks of it, I can say that they could be as high as second right now, even better than Ferrari, so we will see if that's the case again this race as well.
March 15, 2023, 12:03:04 PM
After being successful and becoming the fastest by breaking his own lap record, Pecco Bagnaia is now more confident and also feels very comfortable riding his Ducati GP23 this year. So that will make him stronger in undergoing this season, especially in undergoing the opening race at Algarve Portugal. In addition, Marc Marquez and Joan Mir still lack confidence and are optimistic about their Honda RC213V this year, so they will not target a better position in this opening race.
For Ducati and Bagnaia it will again come down to how much innovation Ducati has put into the new bike. Ducati have usually had a bad start to the season in the past because they change so much with the new models and introduce innovations that they have to understand. Maybe this year they learned from that and didn't change too much, which takes some time to understand.
As for Honda, it's going to be difficult for Honda (can they ride the bike this season?) and especially for Marquez, I expect he's still not fully fit.
Leclerc will have 10 positions penalty one next GP for a change on his engine.
So this race it is almost impossible to get on the podium, in addition this engine is defective and can no longer be used? Would be the next presumed penalty after one race if the number of engines is exceeded during the season.
March 15, 2023, 10:30:24 AM
new year,old news.
Leclerc will have 10 positions penalty one next GP for a change on his engine.
Leclerc will have 10 positions penalty one next GP for a change on his engine.
March 14, 2023, 08:26:44 PM
I'm already looking forward to the next Formula 1 race and whether Alonso and Aston Martin can keep up the performance and fight for the podium with Ferrari. It looks like RedBull is very dominant and no other car is as strong.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
I'm also looking forward to watching the Saudi Arabian GP because this circuit is still "new" and only two races have been held there since its opening.
In the first race still in 2021, Lewis Hamilton was the winner, but with several controversies between him and Max Verstappen. Already in last year's race, the Dutchman from Red Bull triumphed after a duel with Charles Leclerc, from Ferrari.
And now in 2023, who will consecrate themselves first?
In this next GP, I believe that Red Bull's favoritism will tend to be confirmed even more and my bet goes to Max Verstappen.
I also believe that Fernando Alonso may be able to conquer his 100th podium in Jeddah, not least because Aston Martin has a very competitive car that will always be at the head of the field that involves the other "intermediate" teams.
March 14, 2023, 06:09:48 PM
After being successful and becoming the fastest by breaking his own lap record, Pecco Bagnaia is now more confident and also feels very comfortable riding his Ducati GP23 this year. So that will make him stronger in undergoing this season, especially in undergoing the opening race at Algarve Portugal. In addition, Marc Marquez and Joan Mir still lack confidence and are optimistic about their Honda RC213V this year, so they will not target a better position in this opening race.
I think Bagnaia did great last year and he will start building up on that which should be a great race for him if he is confident enough and does not go the extra mile with his Ducati already in the first race which can cost him a retirement or even worse.
I have high hopes for Marquez,I don't know if he has recovered completely but despite the Honda not looking as good as Ducati I think a rider like Marquez has already demonstrated that he can ride that bike like no one else and this is enough for me to think that if he has truly recovered I think he may be aiming for the title this year in MotoGP.
March 14, 2023, 05:54:53 PM
After being successful and becoming the fastest by breaking his own lap record, Pecco Bagnaia is now more confident and also feels very comfortable riding his Ducati GP23 this year. So that will make him stronger in undergoing this season, especially in undergoing the opening race at Algarve Portugal. In addition, Marc Marquez and Joan Mir still lack confidence and are optimistic about their Honda RC213V this year, so they will not target a better position in this opening race.
March 14, 2023, 11:29:04 AM
I don't know what to make of it, but Yamaha are testing with extreme rear wings, it looks very strange and I can't imagine that it will really catch on?
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My favourite this year is again Ducati and Bagnaia, I don't see what Ducati and Bagnaia can do wrong that they can't fight for the win this year?
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My favourite this year is again Ducati and Bagnaia, I don't see what Ducati and Bagnaia can do wrong that they can't fight for the win this year?
March 14, 2023, 09:26:36 AM
Less than two weeks of MotoGP racing will start in Portugal. The Algarve International Circuit will be the proving ground of MotoGP's final pre-season session in the same circuit. The last Pre-season result showed Bagnaia was still very dominant, followed by Zarco and Quartararo. This result may not be a reference in the first series. But it seems that I feel confident that Ducati will remain the favourite. This is due to the news that Honda and Yamaha engine development is not optimal for this season.
March 14, 2023, 08:37:15 AM
I'm already looking forward to the next Formula 1 race and whether Alonso and Aston Martin can keep up the performance and fight for the podium with Ferrari. It looks like RedBull is very dominant and no other car is as strong.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
In the next race, I think Ferrari will do the pole position quite easily but in the race, RBR will dominate again.
The have so low degradation on the tires, there is no competition so far.
Kinda like how it was last year? It could happen but dunno... The new cars seem to have everything in order except for a couple of adjustments in the upper midtable, like Aston Martin getting replaced by Mercedes by the time the GP's go to Europe?
I feel like Mercedes' engineering team are too good to be beaten by the likes of Aston Martin. But it's a good start and it's good to see imho. The team I want to see rise on the grid is Williams.
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March 13, 2023, 01:49:34 PM
In the next race, I think Ferrari will do the pole position quite easily but in the race, RBR will dominate again.
The have so low degradation on the tires, there is no competition so far.
Why do you think Ferrari can take pole position? I have my bets on Perez for pole position this time and I think he can get it. He was also very strong in Saudi Arabia last year, but the race will probably be won by Verstappen again without a defect.
Exactly Ferrari has a tyre problem and that's a big problem, maybe the third grid position will be Alsonso again?
March 13, 2023, 12:35:29 PM
Ferrari once again having all kinds of troubles. It seems that Ferrari CEO is trying to get the TP. As it seems CEO Vigna wants to limit Vasseur as much as possible fearing another Binotto situation could happen, this is why he wants to just keep him focused on racing part of it and not the building the car process, which is unusual and will hurt the team without a doubt.
There are some people who are close to resigning over this meddling of company into the formula team. You do not have the car company and the CEO of it, get involved with the formula 1 racing company, that is not acceptable and most of the time it will hurt their chances a lot.
There are some people who are close to resigning over this meddling of company into the formula team. You do not have the car company and the CEO of it, get involved with the formula 1 racing company, that is not acceptable and most of the time it will hurt their chances a lot.
March 12, 2023, 11:40:33 PM
Redbull confirmed that in 2026 with the new era of the Formula 1.
They will not use the Ford engines coming, but they will build they own engine (from Honda structures)
They will not use the Ford engines coming, but they will build they own engine (from Honda structures)
Can you include a clear source? because from this article (https://the-race.com/formula-1/where-red-bulls-ford-deal-leaves-honda-for-f1-2026/) says that Red Bull is working with Ford 2026 in building their engines and Honda which is a partner of Red Bull previously interested in entering F1 under its own name.
March 12, 2023, 07:51:56 PM
I'm already looking forward to the next Formula 1 race and whether Alonso and Aston Martin can keep up the performance and fight for the podium with Ferrari. It looks like RedBull is very dominant and no other car is as strong.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
At this point, Red Bull should just compete at the league of its own, breaking its previous lap records one after another
The 2nd and 3rd position of this season is what's really exciting for me, and I have no doubt that Red Bull will always dominate this season consistently given how beast of a car they just have made. But yeah, the real battle is between Aston Martin and Ferrari now, and I guess a lot of people here will agree with me that it's boring to watch F1 races knowing who's going to be the champion, so we have to create a little bubble of entertainment for ourselves. March 12, 2023, 05:50:57 PM
I'm already looking forward to the next Formula 1 race and whether Alonso and Aston Martin can keep up the performance and fight for the podium with Ferrari. It looks like RedBull is very dominant and no other car is as strong.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
I'm also looking forward to the start of MotoGP, but I expect Ducati to be very dominant this year, just like RedBull in Formula 1.
In the next race, I think Ferrari will do the pole position quite easily but in the race, RBR will dominate again.
The have so low degradation on the tires, there is no competition so far.
March 12, 2023, 03:49:05 PM
This season just looks like there will be another Red Bull domination for now. Even if Leclerc was able to finish the race it wouldn't change anything for Verstappen. Because Verstappen was constantly opening the gap with him. Even his teammate wasn't able to keep up with him. By the way, I have heard that Perez thinks he can fight with Verstappen for the championship this season. But it doesn't seem realistic to me for now.
Alonso seems very promising for this season. It is all up to Aston Martin's being consistent or not of course. If Alonso struggles with issues in his car then this season would turn into a disaster very quickly. But in a normal situation Alonso can have a really good success at the end of the season. Being champion is too difficult of course.
Alonso seems very promising for this season. It is all up to Aston Martin's being consistent or not of course. If Alonso struggles with issues in his car then this season would turn into a disaster very quickly. But in a normal situation Alonso can have a really good success at the end of the season. Being champion is too difficult of course.
March 12, 2023, 03:41:06 PM
500 pages have been written on this subject, which seems to me to be a nice milestone. And next week the next race will resume. But last year at the beginning of the calendar, Leclerc managed to win a few races and the bookmakers were not quite sure who would become champion. But at one point Verstappen won 4 races in a row and Leclerc dropped out 3 times. Then you have created a gap that cannot be bridged. The success for Ferrari this season lies in whether the car is stable enough or not, a lot will depend on that this season. Verstappen is the favorite anyway, but Ferrari must be able to compete for the world championship with Red Bull until sometime before the end of the season.
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