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Quote from: boltz on June 05, 2023, 06:15:02 AM

Next stop for F1 ; Canada.

A lovely track with awesome track history during the years but I really hoping to see a new winner because if we continue to see Max dominating like this , it will only make the situation worse for neutral F1 fans but it will also remind us of how dominant Michael was in 2003 with his Ferrari. Now , I don't think he will witness Redbull winning all the races but there are big chances that they will win 85% of the remaining races.

I think that this track is the one where we should least expect a different winner other than Redbull,it is a track which has it all,great turns which put a lot of test in the aerodynamics and it is exactly in these turns that the difference is made through the lap as in the big straights there is not a lot of difference between the top teams.Again here DRS plays an important role and overtaking is guaranteed here,I only hope that this track is more gentle to the tires as the turns here are only a few compared to Spain GP and this can make a whole lot difference in the developing of the race.

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A lovely track with awesome track history during the years but I really hoping to see a new winner because if we continue to see Max dominating like this , it will only make the situation worse for neutral F1 fans but it will also remind us of how dominant Michael was in 2003 with his Ferrari. Now , I don't think he will witness Redbull winning all the races but there are big chances that they will win 85% of the remaining races.

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Again, we watched a race that was completely under Verstappen's control. I don't think anyone will be able to force him this year. Upgrades of cars don't work very well. There is a huge gap in between teams.
When do you think Ferrari will fix problems guys? How far will they go this way? They make everyone laugh.
It's been a good race day for Mercedes, after a long break they made a double podium. Aston Martin's rise is noteworthy. There is no struggle for the first place in the rankings of the teams, but there is a serious competition for the next. It's unfortunate that the enjoyment we have had from Formula 1 this season has been low.

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Verstappen's race was nearly perfect. He got 3 warnings for track limits at turn 10 and was warned by his team to be more careful. But he still asked for what the fastest lap was and just went for it. Even if he failed and got a 5-second penalty nothing would have changed for him. Because the gap with Hamilton was such a huge one that even getting this penalty 4 times would have kept him ahead.

Poor Leclerc! His team don't even listen to him about the tyre choice for his next pit. He underlined the soft tyres and Xavi confirmed him. But in pit Xavi said that they were going to change to hard ones instead. Leclerc has had this kind of awkward strategy mistakes because of bad team calls. Someone should stop this nonsense or Ferrari will cost their drivers to have another season full of simple mistakes.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 04, 2023, 06:55:26 PM

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Another easy win for RBR without even pushing at 100%.
Good recovery from Mercedes but they are still probably almost 1 second slower then RBR in a single lap in the race.

Disaster Ferrari as usual.

This race wasn't much more exciting than Monaco, even with that chican in 3rd sector removed, Barcelona is still quite boring track. Max is simply racing in other league. With few bad races in a row for Perez, Max lead against him is already 53 points. All talks that he can give fight for Verstappen is over now.
That was very solid double podium for Mercedes. They were so confident today and nobody weren't able to challenge them. And Ferrari just being Ferrari, as usual.

I think it is already over this as a season when the second runner up is 53 points behind with just 8 races being done so far.The fact that Mercedes improved is a good sign for them but they were still far away from Redbull,it was all about tires in this race so we could not see a challenging race as the tires were being consumed a lot faster than in other tracks.Ferrari I think missed the strategy with Carlos,they needed to be on the podium yesterday and with a better strategy they could very much achieve it.They need to improve also on their race strategies and also in their car development but in this season there is nothing left for them at this pace Redbull most likely will win all races.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 04, 2023, 12:11:47 PM

Once again Max got a very easy win and there wqs nothing anyone else can do. Hamilton was about 24 seconds behind when it ended and that is why Max was so easy to handle. Leclerc and Sainz getting shafted again by Ferrari, they seriously need to reconsider the whole team because they cant handle all of it, they will keep losing more and more if they keep the management same. Norris was very very unlucky, he didnt start well and that happens thats alright but he had an unfortunate damage and all of his race was ruined because of a small moment. In the end wasnt really an enteraining race when you look at it as overtakes there were ton of overtakes and it was fun if you like to watch midtable teams. That race for the last point was quite entertaining all race lpng and it was quite good to see cars racing so close as well, at the top of the list max is alone but at midtable cars are a lot more closer to each other and that was quite fun to watch without a doubt. Was awesome to watch Perez as well, definitely showed why he deserves his spot.

The race started quite interesting, but from the half to the end it was quite boring as it was predictable that Verstappen would lead and the duo of Mercedes drivers had the advantage. As for Norris, it was quite sad for him because he had to end up in P17, even though he initially had good performance but unfortunately there was an incident that ruined his race. And finally we are back to a quite boring race, Verstappen even finished without any resistance from other drivers, the only fun thing is racing at P8 and below, especially when Zhou and Yuki compete for a good position, it's quite fun to watch.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 04, 2023, 02:55:46 PM

Another easy win for RBR without even pushing at 100%.
Good recovery from Mercedes but they are still probably almost 1 second slower then RBR in a single lap in the race.

Disaster Ferrari as usual.

This race wasn't much more exciting than Monaco, even with that chican in 3rd sector removed, Barcelona is still quite boring track. Max is simply racing in other league. With few bad races in a row for Perez, Max lead against him is already 53 points. All talks that he can give fight for Verstappen is over now.
That was very solid double podium for Mercedes. They were so confident today and nobody weren't able to challenge them. And Ferrari just being Ferrari, as usual.

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Verstappen has a car which goes on like it is on rails. There is just no competition for him compared to other teams. And combining this powerful car with a very talented driver like Verstappen results in this. It was a very easy work for Verstappen. He was even so comfortable to go for fastest lap by pitting for fresh soft tyres. He must be getting bored all alone so we sometimes hear him talking to the team about some things. Grin

It was really good to see a big performance by Mercedes drivers. But I still can't be sure about whether this performance would be consistent from now on. Because we see quite different results on different tracks for them.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 04, 2023, 02:55:46 PM

Another easy win for RBR without even pushing at 100%.
Good recovery from Mercedes but they are still probably almost 1 second slower then RBR in a single lap in the race.

Disaster Ferrari as usual.

You can see and feel that Leclerc is really trying to make things work, though unfortunately his machine isn't really up to par with the rest of the big names and he's always getting dnf or just a bad beat in general. I think the frustration is creeping up to him because Sainz managed to finish at a respectable placing behind Perez. The Mercedes are also slowly creeping back up with a close rivalry with the Aston Martins, and I think that's the only interesting match up right now since we now know Red Bull will take the trophy anyway.

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Verstappen doesn't even seem to have to put in much effort to win these kinds of races. Ferrari doesn't seem to be able to get anywhere close either. Could this be a mechanical problem at Ferrari, or is Leclerc just not good enough to compete for the world championship? I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The fact is that RedBull already holds the title, and I am curious what teams will do next season to try to reduce the differences with RedBulle. At least Mercedes showed that it was the best of the rest today. That should be the first step. None for 2nd place, and then trying to close the gap with RedBull, if at all possible.

Redbull will be Champions again this season as you cannot undo all those wins that they got in these 8 races which they won it all,I believe 6 Verstappen and 2 Perez which shows a full supremacy of this team.The commentators of CBS sport where I watch the races said one nice joke when Sainz told his team in the radio "Please find a way to beat Checo" and those commentators said "the best way to beat Checo is to hire Adrian Newey but unfortunately he is not moving from Redbull and he still is the best aerodynamics engineer as of now" and this comment pretty much conclude what this season will continue to look like.I hope Mercedes improves further but they still seem far away from Redbull performance.

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Verstappen doesn't even seem to have to put in much effort to win these kinds of races. Ferrari doesn't seem to be able to get anywhere close either. Could this be a mechanical problem at Ferrari, or is Leclerc just not good enough to compete for the world championship? I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The fact is that RedBull already holds the title, and I am curious what teams will do next season to try to reduce the differences with RedBulle. At least Mercedes showed that it was the best of the rest today. That should be the first step. None for 2nd place, and then trying to close the gap with RedBull, if at all possible.

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Another easy win for RBR without even pushing at 100%.
Good recovery from Mercedes but they are still probably almost 1 second slower then RBR in a single lap in the race.

Disaster Ferrari as usual.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on June 04, 2023, 01:05:14 PM

There really wasn't much to it today. A race that was dominated by Verstappen all weekend, and today it was exactly the same from start to finish. It slowly seems that we will get a similar championship again just like last season. Nobody was waiting for that, but at Red Bull they are of course very happy because this is the ideal dream scenario. Another top day for Mercedes with a 2nd and 3rd place. That is the prelude to a fun season, but it will of course not be exciting for the title. It already seems to have been fought.

For Mercedes, this is perhaps the highlight of the season. They also know at Mercedes that the world championship is impossible to win, but they will mainly focus on the quality of the races and will try to raise the level every race with the aim of being able to compete for the title next season doing. You also wonder where things went so wrong at Mercedes, which for years managed to win the titles every year with playful ease and now don't even come close to the title in the World Cup. Or has redbull just done it much smarter?

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There really wasn't much to it today. A race that was dominated by Verstappen all weekend, and today it was exactly the same from start to finish. It slowly seems that we will get a similar championship again just like last season. Nobody was waiting for that, but at Red Bull they are of course very happy because this is the ideal dream scenario. Another top day for Mercedes with a 2nd and 3rd place. That is the prelude to a fun season, but it will of course not be exciting for the title. It already seems to have been fought.

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Once again Max got a very easy win and there wqs nothing anyone else can do. Hamilton was about 24 seconds behind when it ended and that is why Max was so easy to handle. Leclerc and Sainz getting shafted again by Ferrari, they seriously need to reconsider the whole team because they cant handle all of it, they will keep losing more and more if they keep the management same. Norris was very very unlucky, he didnt start well and that happens thats alright but he had an unfortunate damage and all of his race was ruined because of a small moment. In the end wasnt really an enteraining race when you look at it as overtakes there were ton of overtakes and it was fun if you like to watch midtable teams. That race for the last point was quite entertaining all race lpng and it was quite good to see cars racing so close as well, at the top of the list max is alone but at midtable cars are a lot more closer to each other and that was quite fun to watch without a doubt. Was awesome to watch Perez as well, definitely showed why he deserves his spot.

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My conclusions about the TOP 5 of the GP of Spain:

It's okay that Verstappen led the race from start to finish, he's still a great driver but for me he wasn't the best. My honors in this GP certainly go to the Mexican Sergio Pérez After he started 11th and finished the race in 4th with an excellent recovery race with Red Bull.

Lewis Hamilton and George Russel indeed confirmed that Mercedes updates are a differential that is keeping it in the leadership positions.

I was also expecting more from Carlos Sainz, he did a good race and was very quick but I think he was really limited by Ferrari's performance difficulties.

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Quote from: retreat on June 04, 2023, 08:23:58 AM

It was quite disappointing to see Alonso in P9 in this qualifying session, even though in FP2 he managed to improve his performance and was in P2, but unfortunately he was inconsistent and ended up in P9 in this qualifying. But what is quite interesting is that Norris managed to start at P3 in the racing session later. This is a very good performance from Norris and team McLaren. It seems that Norris and his team are very comfortable on the circuit and maybe they will show good performance in the race session later.

Aston Martin seems like is really struggling in this track and that is the only knew unknown in this race so far.Mercedes drivers claiming they have quite a lot of pace on their tires despite having soft ones and are running more than 20 laps with them,most likely they will go with a single stop,Redbull most likely will do the same and so this race will end with Ferrari out of the podium as when Mercedes will come out they will have much fresher tires than Sainz which has already pitted from quite some time now.

A rain would do great deal to change the outcome of this race which so far seems linear without any retirements,crashes or something along these lines,a rain together with the safety car should make this a good one to watch,so far a boring one.

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It was quite disappointing to see Alonso in P9 in this qualifying session, even though in FP2 he managed to improve his performance and was in P2, but unfortunately he was inconsistent and ended up in P9 in this qualifying. But what is quite interesting is that Norris managed to start at P3 in the racing session later. This is a very good performance from Norris and team McLaren. It seems that Norris and his team are very comfortable on the circuit and maybe they will show good performance in the race session later.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 03, 2023, 06:25:11 PM

All the weather report seems to have changed for tomorrow as well. There isn't any expectation of rain at race time according to my source either. This would just secure a win for Verstappen even more as long as he doesn't any issue with the car. Sainz and Norris captured the second and third positions in the qualifying maybe but I wonder what they will do in the race.

At this point they should start an event in bookies entitled “Will Verstappen’s car have issues?” especially when their qualifying went smooth and there isn’t much of a weather disturbance on race day. There’s just very few things that can take down Verstappen in a race. Heck, even if there’s some miscommunication in his team, they can just order Perez to pave the way and Max to claim the win.

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All the weather report seems to have changed for tomorrow as well. There isn't any expectation of rain at race time according to my source either. This would just secure a win for Verstappen even more as long as he doesn't any issue with the car. Sainz and Norris captured the second and third positions in the qualifying maybe but I wonder what they will do in the race.

There is a big chance for Ferrari and McLaren both to be on podium this time but let's see. As overtaking isn't an easy task on this track these two drivers can turn it into an advantage for themselves. But pit strategies are also going to be very important in maintaining position.

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