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Superb race for Leclerc with tyre managment.
In a track where is very hard to overtake in similar condition, he got the best outcome.

Redbull is on another level but today we have the dimostration that Ferrari halved the distance from the past year and now they are the second strenght in the cirucs
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I think last time a Ferrari won at Suzuka was back in 2004 with Schumi and that says a lot about last 2 decades of Ferrari because nothing great happened since then. I also tend to believe that Ferrari needs to win at Suzuka and then they can think towards a championship because this race is a curse that needs to be broken for Ferrari.

Yep , I think the same with RedBull and I cannot see them losing this morning.

Yeah, it was the last time Ferrari won on Suzuka track. Today it didn't happen once again so the series has reached 20 years now.  Sad  As long as nothing happens to Verstappen's car like in the Australia GP there was no way he was losing the win to another driver. I can't say 100% maybe as he is also human but his concentration level and the balance of the car combined is just so broken.  Grin

At least Ferrari were on podium today with Sainz. Leclerc followed right behind by making up for his poor qualifying result.

Ferrari can finish the season in the 2nd position this time if things don't get messy.
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I think the Japanese GP was one of the most exciting races of the season. Aside from Verstappen's comfortable win, everyone had a different strategy in the middle top group of the grid. Of those strategies, Leclerc's strategy worked very well and took him from 8 to 4. Leclerc had a great performance but was kept off the podium by his team.

Ferrari again got a good result in a race where they were not at the top. I think Ferrari is good at strategy this year. Mercedes seems to have replaced Ferrari this year. Alonso was able to keep 2 cars behind him with timely drs to the car behind him. There was a moment on the bottom row when 5 cars pitted at the same time and it was a strange moment. It was good for Tsunona to score points at home. Finally, it was a race where Ferrari's performance in terms of tire management was much better than last year.
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fourth consecutive pole for max verstappen on the redbull.
Only Perez managed to threaten him for pole position.

Disappointing day for Ferrari, especially with Leclerc.

The race will now be downhill for the Redbulls, only an unexpected event or abnormal tire degradation could threaten their victory.



I think last time a Ferrari won at Suzuka was back in 2004 with Schumi and that says a lot about last 2 decades of Ferrari because nothing great happened since then. I also tend to believe that Ferrari needs to win at Suzuka and then they can think towards a championship because this race is a curse that needs to be broken for Ferrari.

Yep , I think the same with RedBull and I cannot see them losing this morning.

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Ferrari has a good race pace but has difficulty getting the tires up to temperature.
In the third free practice Ferrari demonstrated an excellent race pace even though it had less fuel than Redbull.

the performance of Sainz and Leclerc's times was excellent, demonstrating low tire degradation.
Great disappointment therefore at Ferrari as they hoped to be close to Max and then battle in the race.
The overall impression remains the same, low degradation, excellent balance.

It will be difficult to get rid of the Meclarens at this track.
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Once again Sainz gave a better performance compared to Charles, and this may be homework for Charles considering that Ferrari gave him more special treatment compared to Sainz.
And as for Max, we don't need to talk about this guy anymore, because this season he's already been on pole several times and maybe this will be another win for him - the only thing stopping him is his car.
And for Ricciardo, it seems his performance is still poor compared to his colleague Tsunoda. Well, maybe the public's expectations of him are too high, which makes his self-confidence decrease even more. Hopefully he can improve his performance or RB is ready to replace him at any time.
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Regarding Vettel , I think this are all rumors and the guy is happy with his current life but I could see him returning as an official within F1...am ambassador or something.

Maybe it is just no more than rumours like you said yeah. News sources love to spread this kind of news regularly. It would still be nice to see in Formula 1 world if he rejoins with a different role instead of driver.  Smiley



The qualifying results must have made Red Bull very satisfied. Because they had a very dominant run. Perez was known by making mistakes in qualifying session in the previous season but know it seems like he has got over it. We will see if he will keep up the good work to consolidate his seat more. I was sad to see Leclerc being slower than Sainz again.  Sad  Leclerc still can't get comfortable with his car unfortunately indeed.
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^  Yup...  Another qualifying that finished with Sainz beating Leclerc again.  :/  Is this gonna become the trend for Ferrari this season.  If so Leclerc would be asking where is the fast car that he was promised last year?  Lol.  It's gonna be memes galore if the team doesn't deiiver it for him.

And did he already sign a new contract extending his stay beyond 2026?  Next year with Hamilton around he'll surely be having a lot tougher time against Lewis Hamilton.  I could already see all the memes...  

Anyway both Tsunoda and Alonso were impressive at quali.
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fourth consecutive pole for max verstappen on the redbull.
Only Perez managed to threaten him for pole position.

Disappointing day for Ferrari, especially with Leclerc.

The race will now be downhill for the Redbulls, only an unexpected event or abnormal tire degradation could threaten their victory.

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I was expecting a strong McLaren as the last laps of Australian GP they were making fastest laps in a consecutive way and it was only Leclerc last lap that made those fastest laps disappear,the fact that also Piastri is there it shows that they have made some better configuration to the car as I don't know yet of an upgrade package from McLaren and I think it is good that also are there fighting for the podium at least while they may have also a go at winning the race if we have rain,safety cars or tire degradation from Redbull which we have seen in the first two races so far,they were not great with the tires.
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We have left the qualifying behind. Verstappen didn't surprise anyone and took pole position. However it wasn't the easiest one though. Perez was also really close to pole position.  Smiley  I wasn't expecting to see Norris up there truthfully. I'm wondering how good his racing pace will be already now. It wasn't one of the best qualifying days for Ferrari on the other hand.

While Sainz was doing pretty good Leclerc was having big issues with the car. He didn't look like he was comfortable with it. I think the best position he can finish in would be the 5th or maybe 4th place but I expect him to finish behind Sainz in the circumstances.
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Some more news this time coming from Germany:

It seems that Mercedes has a 3 year list and that Vettel's rumors are partly wrong.

According to them the list has been reduced to Verstappen, Antonelli (gp2 driver) and Alonso for 1 year deal
As for Vettel, a sensational return to Redbull could be configured for next year aswell

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Apart from Bagnaia who has extended his contract with the Ducati factory until the 2026 season, today I saw another rider, namely Fabio Quartararo, who is doing the same thing with the Yamaha factory where he has also signed his contract until 2026. I don't know what caused Fabio Quartararo to continue his career with Yamaha in the next two seasons, because in general Yamaha motorbikes still find it difficult to compete with other factory motorbikes on the current MotoGP grid.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2024/04/05/quartararo-extends-yamaha-contract-until-2026/494140
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Strange tests this morning in Japan where rain was not expected. However, in the first hour we had several possible answers.

-Sainz seems to be at ease in this Ferrari, more than Leclerc.
-Sainz is very close to Redbull in all sectors of the track, even in the most technical ones and this is an excellent confirmation of the huge steps forward made by Ferrari from the past year.
-Even in the race pace it is very close, between 2 and 3 tenths of a second, Redbull will probably win unless there are variables such as greater tyre degradetion.

The forecast is obviously for Max to win with a margin of 15-20 seconds.

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^  Whoa there...  Lol.  Wdym beat Lewis Hamilton and win his first driver's championship?  Cheesy  Nothing of that sort is happening as long as Hamilton is around.  There was that one year with Nico Rosberg but that was about it.  Rosberg called it quits and ran with his tail between his legs.  Lol.

As for George Russell, the only reason why he's beating Hamilton this year is cos Hamilton has been sucking more than Russell is improving.  I think even Vettel could beat Russell with the same car at any given week.  But that's just me...

Of course Hamilton is not having any motivation to bring it to race like he used to when he was dominating the sport,as long as there is no real motivation for what you are fighting for meanwhile you have already signed a contract with another team it is only normal to suck more than Russell who fights for improving his place at Mercedes or going to some new better team will perform better.I also think Vettel in the same car can easily beat Russell.
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^  Whoa there...  Lol.  Wdym beat Lewis Hamilton and win his first driver's championship?  Cheesy  Nothing of that sort is happening as long as Hamilton is around.  There was that one year with Nico Rosberg but that was about it.  Rosberg called it quits and ran with his tail between his legs.  Lol.

As for George Russell, the only reason why he's beating Hamilton this year is cos Hamilton has been sucking more than Russell is improving.  I think even Vettel could beat Russell with the same car at any given week.  But that's just me...
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Rainy day Suzuka and one the drivers who couldn't even make 1 lap in Q2 was Russel and does anything goes well for this kid lately ? because he surely has a big voice and ego but when it comes to actually delivering , he is nowhere to be found. Now , I know Mercedes has a crappy car this year but Russel really believed when he made the jump from Williams to Mercedes that he will still have a championship car , he will beat Lewis and win his 1st F1 title but he was so wrong. I also have my personal believe that it will take more than a decade to see another Britain driver winning an F1 title....maybe Norris can prove me wrong but Piastri is way better and skilled than him. Grin
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We only was able to watch FP1 today as the FP2 was hindered by rain throughout the track and most drivers,most of the important ones didn't finish a single lap.The FP1 though showed once again that Redbull is still the top team having finished 1-2 although the good news is that Ferrari specifically in the hand of Sainz is there to try and fight it out,just 0.213 away from Verstappen.In the race with a bit of rain and the right strategy they can win this.
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Bruno Guimaraes is likely to leave Newscastle as the club needs to get financial fair play in order.

Several teams are interested in the player including PSG, CITY and Arsenal.

Arsenal don't stop there, they seem to also be interested in Isak and Zikzee, actually at Bologna on Loan from Bayern



Bro wrong thread.  Grin

sebastian Vettel spoken to journalists today and admitted how he had been feeling over the past few weeks.

The German driver admitted that in recent days he has been in contact with Toto Wolff

But the news doesn't stop there, the driver has basically made it clear that he could return to racing in 2025 but it depends a lot on the level of the car he would be entrusted with

There is a place free at Mercedes during 2025 as Hamilton is leaving and for me if Vettel is remotely thinking in F1 he should do it with a Mercedes as I don't see any better option than Mercedes which has free slots from the teams running,the other 3 strong teams have their line up most likely fixed for the upcoming season.So it would be great to see Vettel back in driving a great car like Mercedes which I assume would be running a good performance.

If he doesn't get the second drive at Mercedes there's another option for him and it's Red Bull since Perez will be leaving at the end of the season if he isn't given a new contract.  I think if Horner stays as team principal then there's prolly some chance Vettel goes back to Red Bull.  And I def wouldn't mind it imho.  He'll prolly even do a lot better than Perez.

Here are FP1 and FP2 results...

2024 F1 Japanese Grand Prix FP2 Results

Max Verstappen   1:30.056      
Sergio Perez   1:30.237   +0.181s   
Carlos Sainz   1:30.269   +0.213s   
George Russell   1:30.530   +0.474s   
Lewis Hamilton   1:30.543   +0.487s   
Charles Leclerc   1:30.558   +0.502s   
Fernando Alonso  1:30.599   +0.543s   
Oscar Piastri   1:31.165   +1.109s   
Yuki Tsunoda   1:31.230   +1.174s   
Lando Norris   1:31.240   +1.184s   
Esteban Ocon   1:31.935   +1.879s   
Alexander Albon   1:31.943   +1.887s   
Nico Hulkenberg    1:31.958   +1.902s   
Valtteri Bottas   1:32.054   +1.998s   
Lance Stroll   1:32.055   +1.999s   
Ayumu Iwasa   1:32.103   +2.047s   
Pierre Gasly   1:32.277   +2.221s   
Zhou Guanyu   1:32.638   +2.582s   
Kevin Magnussen  1:32.803 +2.747s   
Logan Sargeant    1:33.204   +3.148s   

2024 F1 Japanese Grand Prix FP2 Results

Oscar Piastri   1:34.725      
Lewis Hamilton   1:35.226   +0.501s   
Charles Leclerc   1:38.760   +4.035s   
Yuki Tsunoda   1:40.946   +6.221s   
Daniel Ricciardo   1:41.913   +7.188s   
Zhou Guanyu
Valtteri Bottas
Alexander Albon   
Kevin Magnussen
Nico Hulkenberg   
Carlos Sainz
Lando Norris   
Esteban Ocon

The rain stopped FP2 short.  :/
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It is really nice to see Japanese Grand Prix not being cancelled.  Smiley  We have already left 2 practice sessions behind also. There was a Red Bull dominance in the first one and Mercedes drivers looked really good too. On the other hand the second practice session didn't last long due to a rain burst. Drivers were able to go for only 7 laps the most.

I'm really wondering whether we would have another interesting race with surprising results but I'm pushing my luck there I guess.  Tongue

It will probably be under Verstappen's dominance and Red Bulls can take the first 2 spots at the end of the race I think. Do you think Sainz would see another podium?  Roll Eyes
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