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Quote from: alegotardo on January 04, 2023, 08:04:55 PM

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Not gonna going anywhere from my perspective.

They scare about the budget money, so hard to say we are gonna to see "Haas" taking some point on 2023. The most important things they care is always, finish with the car without any scratches.

If they want to get a better result position, they need to sacrifice something. Meanwhile, they contract a driver who already not being in the gride a few season.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 04, 2023, 06:02:35 PM

2026 in F1 will be a very very strong year for sure, it will be like a renewal for many teams and it is going to be insane. We are talking about a season where both rules are changing, cars are changing, both inside and outside of the car is changing and we are talking about new teams, more teams, more races, and many other things.

It is going to be something amazing when the time comes. We are just in 2023 season now, so we have this season, next and a year after that, 3 more seasons with this and I think Red Bull will win it all, 4 in a row constructors and 5 in a row drivers with Max, but after that? After that it is all anyone's game, everyone would need to work hard to build something around it.

Yeah, I was thinking like Verstappen had long years ahead of him to break the most title record and have it only by himself at a point.

But after hearing about new brands joining F1 in different ways I have started not to be so sure about Verstappen. By the 2026 season in F1, we will see how much the things will change for the teams. Who knows maybe Red Bull will have a bigger competition ahead of them and they won't keep their dominance anymore. No matter what Verstappen has signed a long-term contract with them. It would be difficult to see Red Bull staying weak either as long as they make a lot of profit to be able to continue to make big developments in the car. But let's see what that year will bring. There are still a few years ahead.

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Quote from: Davian144 on January 05, 2023, 09:12:02 AM

So far, there have been four MotoGP riders who have replaced their helmet brand for the 2023 season, if previously there were Fabio Quartararo and Alex Rins. Now Pol Espargaro and Aleix Espargaro have also switched from their previous helmet brand to another for this season. Source: everythingmotoracing and motoracinggear

Aleix Espargaro - KYT to Kabuto
Fabio Quartararo - Scorpion to HJC
Pol Espargaro - HJC to AGV
Alex Rins - Nolan to Scorpion

In addition, the Honda factory has recently changed the exhaust brand from the previous SC Project and for this season the Honda factory will use Akrapovic exhaust. Source: Local media

Each MotoGP team has its own sponsor and sponsoring a MotoGP team is not easy and requires a lot of money to sponsor it.
So do not be surprised if there are some team management or racers who change brands for a sponsor. If there are other brands that offer their names as sponsors and provide a larger amount of money than the old sponsor, then a replacement will definitely be made.
As a MotoGP team, it also requires costs that must be spent in every racing event held.

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I have heard that Hyundai and Porsche are also preparing to join F1 by that season also.

These two brands are the other strongest candidates to be seen here for now. But we will see how they will want to join this environment. Maybe both of them would like to provide engine to some teams. Ford and BMW are other brands in such speculations but there is no statement by their sides as far as I know. BMW are interested in endurance racing rather than F1 these days. Ford might be a more powerful candidate but we will see if it's true in the coming days.

Until now we have Audi officially coming in F1 in 2026.

Porsche is very close to be official.
The rumor for them was to enter With RBR but they denied it and they want to be an independent team.

These are the most probable teams.

We also have 2 small rumors for 2027 for Hyundai and Ford but we basically know nothing about it.

We have seen a Ford works team have a couple of seasons in F1 but Hyundai? Do they even have the technical know how to compete in such a cut throat sport like F1? The established teams will chew them up and spit them out easy. But the more teams the better. I'd like to see Toyota come back in F1 too and get some more Asian automakers represented in F1.

Another rumor that seems to be gaining momentum is Andretti seems to be interested to get in F1 as early as 2024. That would be great!

Here's the betting market for the outrights in case anybody is interested. H2H bets look fun.

https://stake.com/sports/outright/formula-1/formula-1/formula-1-2023/43033628-formula-1-2023

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So far, there have been four MotoGP riders who have replaced their helmet brand for the 2023 season, if previously there were Fabio Quartararo and Alex Rins. Now Pol Espargaro and Aleix Espargaro have also switched from their previous helmet brand to another for this season. Source: everythingmotoracing and motoracinggear

Aleix Espargaro - KYT to Kabuto
Fabio Quartararo - Scorpion to HJC
Pol Espargaro - HJC to AGV
Alex Rins - Nolan to Scorpion

In addition, the Honda factory has recently changed the exhaust brand from the previous SC Project and for this season the Honda factory will use Akrapovic exhaust. Source: Local media

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I don't know if it has already been commented here, but I just read that Haas presented its new logo to also represent the master sponsor for the 2023 Formula 1 season, which in fact had already been announced in October 2022 during the US GP United. This is MoneyGram, a digital payments company.

Consequently, they also went on to adopt the name MoneyGram Haas F1 Team.

Now, they hope to have better luck with the new partner, which is a world leader in its segment, and who knows how to "erase" the bad experiences they had with Rich Energy and Uralkali.

More than a good sponsor, Haas will need to have a more stable car to get a better placement in the 2022 season. Besides, I hope that the recent arrival of Nico Hulkenberg will help Kevin Magnussen to get good points for Haas.

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2026 in F1 will be a very very strong year for sure, it will be like a renewal for many teams and it is going to be insane. We are talking about a season where both rules are changing, cars are changing, both inside and outside of the car is changing and we are talking about new teams, more teams, more races, and many other things.

It is going to be something amazing when the time comes. We are just in 2023 season now, so we have this season, next and a year after that, 3 more seasons with this and I think Red Bull will win it all, 4 in a row constructors and 5 in a row drivers with Max, but after that? After that it is all anyone's game, everyone would need to work hard to build something around it.

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Back in the Sprint race, it turned out that they eliminated the FP4 session and replaced it for the sprint race session. It seems that this decision has been Final in the hope that the audience will be more interested in coming.

Then I just read in the local media if my state circuit Mandalika does not hold pre-season tests for this year. Indeed, it is not mandatory, but it seems that financial reasons are the main problem. This is because the Mandalika committee did not sell tickets in the event. They diverted funds for the preparatory treatment of this 2023 season.

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Quote from: blue Snow on January 04, 2023, 12:33:14 AM

It's not the problem, maybe the teams have been busy searching for the new arrival custom or helmet. Because several days ago, Quartararo and the team have dealt with a new helmet sponsor, HJC from a Korean company. We know, Scorpion is helmet are used by Quartararo from 2019, and was ended 2023 which mean almost 3 years that helmet protect his head from an accident. So in the next session, we can see not only new racer from GASGAS and a new track from Kazakstan and India but the new custom and helmet also.

That's not really a problem because Dorna only makes news updates as usual. And for the drivers who have collaborated with the new helmet company, I see that Quartararo is not the only one who has replaced his helmet from Scorpion to HJC. But Alex Rins (former Suzuki rider) who this year will be with the LCR Honda team will also change his helmet from Nolan to Scorpion Exo and there will definitely be a different livery among the LCR team this year.

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Quote from: Davian144 on January 03, 2023, 12:18:08 PM

MotoGP is still on vacation, but several teams have released their presentation dates earlier this year, especially in January to March,

It's not the problem, maybe the teams have been busy searching for the new arrival custom or helmet. Because several days ago, Quartararo and the team have dealt with a new helmet sponsor, HJC from a Korean company. We know, Scorpion is helmet are used by Quartararo from 2019, and was ended 2023 which mean almost 3 years that helmet protect his head from an accident. So in the next session, we can see not only new racer from GASGAS and a new track from Kazakstan and India but the new custom and helmet also.

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MotoGP is still on vacation, but several teams have released their presentation dates earlier this year, especially in January to March, although there are three teams that have yet to include their presentation dates. However, Dorna via their tweet published this yesterday and I can't wait to see the MotoGP motorbikes and the livery colors of each team that will be used this year. Source: https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1609930530518364162

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 01, 2023, 04:12:00 PM

I have heard that Hyundai and Porsche are also preparing to join F1 by that season also.

Hyundai might be very likely to enter the F1 team, but instead of bringing the "Hyundai" brand it would be more suitable to bring their premium brand "Genesis" because this is a premium brand and already has global popularity. Especially at the G20 event last month, this is a car brand that carries the Presidents. So in my opinion it is better to bring this Genesis brand than Hyundai. And for Porsche, it looks like the brand will not be entering F1 after their deal fell through with the Red Bull team due to leadership overlapping issues. But even so, Porsche will probably continue to make approaches with several teams and it is possible that they will enter F1 in the coming seasons.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 01, 2023, 04:12:00 PM

I have heard that Hyundai and Porsche are also preparing to join F1 by that season also.

These two brands are the other strongest candidates to be seen here for now. But we will see how they will want to join this environment. Maybe both of them would like to provide engine to some teams. Ford and BMW are other brands in such speculations but there is no statement by their sides as far as I know. BMW are interested in endurance racing rather than F1 these days. Ford might be a more powerful candidate but we will see if it's true in the coming days.

Until now we have Audi officially coming in F1 in 2026.

Porsche is very close to be official.
The rumor for them was to enter With RBR but they denied it and they want to be an independent team.

These are the most probable teams.

We also have 2 small rumors for 2027 for Hyundai and Ford but we basically know nothing about it.

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The latest gossip in the paddock is that Ferrari wants to get Newey to their team. While Red Bull is a winning team and have a winning car, Ferrari could both offer a bigger pay, but also they could work with "bring success back to ferrari again" challenge to table and could maybe convince him.

To those who do not know who Newey is, dude is the Chief Technical Officer, and basically all around car designer, the person who is responsible for the car to be as good as it can be, and won 11 constructors with his designs. So if Ferrari could get him, after getting rid of Binotto as well, they are on the right track for sure, maybe not this year but it shows they mean serious business. I am not sure if they could, but they are trying.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 01, 2023, 04:12:00 PM

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Audi is preparing itself for the 2026 season, they are now looking for people using google Grin

I have heard that Hyundai and Porsche are also preparing to join F1 by that season also.

These two brands are the other strongest candidates to be seen here for now. But we will see how they will want to join this environment. Maybe both of them would like to provide engine to some teams. Ford and BMW are other brands in such speculations but there is no statement by their sides as far as I know. BMW are interested in endurance racing rather than F1 these days. Ford might be a more powerful candidate but we will see if it's true in the coming days.

Porsche is owned by VolksWagen,the same as Audi,so both teams represent a sole vendor from what I understand despite that when VolksWagen bought them they kept their technology but if you see a Volkswagen car,a Skoda,a Seat which are also owned by VolksWagen group it shows that they have almost the same instrument panel because of them being part of such vendor.It is interesting to see them in F1 however for me it is much more interesting to see Hyundai which is dominating the electric car market by a huge gap compared to any other vendor,they have also an unlimited budget as their president said "I don't care how much I spend,I only see growing in my vision" and that vision is true now with all the success that Hyundai has enjoyed.I can see them being the most interesting team to enter F1 by that year.

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Audi is preparing itself for the 2026 season, they are now looking for people using google Grin

I have heard that Hyundai and Porsche are also preparing to join F1 by that season also.

These two brands are the other strongest candidates to be seen here for now. But we will see how they will want to join this environment. Maybe both of them would like to provide engine to some teams. Ford and BMW are other brands in such speculations but there is no statement by their sides as far as I know. BMW are interested in endurance racing rather than F1 these days. Ford might be a more powerful candidate but we will see if it's true in the coming days.

It was actually strange that these big names have not competed in F1 before. They are pure race cars par excellence. But doesn't Hyundai already have a certain engine that they supply to a current team? Maybe I'm mixing things up now. 2026 is also quite far away, a lot of plans can change in this way. For the coming season I expect few surprises in terms of composition. Some teams could still change drivers, but the top teams will not replace drivers. Verstappen will also be very satisfied with Perez as 2nd driver.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 31, 2022, 02:58:51 PM

Audi is preparing itself for the 2026 season, they are now looking for people using google Grin

I have heard that Hyundai and Porsche are also preparing to join F1 by that season also.

These two brands are the other strongest candidates to be seen here for now. But we will see how they will want to join this environment. Maybe both of them would like to provide engine to some teams. Ford and BMW are other brands in such speculations but there is no statement by their sides as far as I know. BMW are interested in endurance racing rather than F1 these days. Ford might be a more powerful candidate but we will see if it's true in the coming days.

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Vettel is one of the most experienced drivers present. He may not be good enough to take another shot at the world championship, and besides, he doesn't have the car in his team. Maybe it's not a bad idea at all that he will drive as a kind of mentor / supervisor with a team. He has a lot of experience and I think he can also transfer his knowledge to young drivers who still have a lot of experience to gain. He will have to be open to it himself. You say goodbye to the podium chances and you can also put any ambitions on hold.

Vettel has a lot of experience and might come back to Formula 1 one day, but at the moment I don't think so. Didn't he quit to have more time for his family and to promote environmental protection? So I don't think Vettel will return at the moment, maybe when his two children are older.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 30, 2022, 09:52:43 AM

I thought they wanted to close the calendar with Mexico and Las Vegas and I clearly see now that FIA has again changed their mind for something.It is great that we are starting the season early in March but I hope the decisions like that of FIA to change things whenever they see fit do not come through the season which can happen to be devastating to the competition between teams and a killer to it like it was the last year.For this new season I can't wait to see the Las Vegas race which I know for sure it will be the most beautiful to watch just seeing the layout of the track where it will be held in the capital of gambling in the world.

The FIA is unlikely to change something without prior consideration. Surely the FIA stakeholders have considered various matters related to the schedule, especially when we know that the Covid19 case in several F1 organizing countries has also increased, the FIA may change/cancel the venue where F1 is held in that country.

However, I think that adding Vegas as the venue for F1 will be a challenge in itself for the drivers, because surely this will be a tiring and very competitive season. I hope that the next season will be a more interesting season and certainly provide exciting shows for F1 lovers.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 30, 2022, 04:13:30 PM

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Ferarri - Leclerc there will be have 2 scenario:
1. Due to the change of team principal, people, or team hoping we are gonna 2023 season. As long there has some change as well not only on the team principal but also on the team it self (PitCrew + Team Strategy.

2. For this one is adaption style for "Fred Vasseur". If this happening, then Ferarri are not gonna to chase 2023 and could be chasing for 2024 since Vasseur need some adaption how the team work in Ferarri.

This will make the "Tifosi" impatient during the first year unless the new management clearly states that we cannot fight for the title in 2023 but we are using this year in order to give you "the Tifosi" an unforgettable 2024 season where will be fighting really hard for the win of both the drivers Championship and also the constructors Championship,I think if they go this way they will keep the "Tifosi" quiet for the 2023.I know that in Ferrari they are waiting from many years,almost the same number the people at McLaren are waiting so wasting a year because of the adoption it will surely piss of the fans of Ferrari.

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