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Wtf did Verstappen back off from a possible pole position?  Weird...  I guess we'll find out later.

2022 F1 Singapore GP Qualifying Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m54.129s   1m52.343s   1m49.412s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m54.404s   1m52.818s   1m49.434s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m53.161s   1m52.691s   1m49.466s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m54.559s   1m53.219s   1m49.583s
5   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m55.360s   1m53.127s   1m49.966s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m55.914s   1m53.492s   1m50.584s
7   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m55.606s   1m53.546s   1m51.211s
8   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m53.057s   1m52.723s   1m51.395s
9   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m55.103s   1m54.006s   1m51.573s
10   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m55.314s   1m53.848s   1m51.983s
11   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m54.633s   1m54.012s   
12   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m55.629s   1m54.211s   
13   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m55.736s   1m54.370s   
14   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m55.602s   1m54.380s   
15   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m55.375s   1m55.518s   
16   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m56.083s       
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m56.226s       
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m56.337s       
19   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m56.985s       
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing

Well well well , it seems that Aston Martin are really targeting that top 10 with both drivers even from qualifiers. Besides this , I've just read that Aston Martin still has the biggest improvement on the car but also on the important pieces that they are currently developing so only great news are coming from AM lately. I'm a huge fan of them and next weekend they should be in Bucharest for a quick fan show with their F1 car...most likely the testing one from previous year.

Good one for Leclerc.  I for one have always found myself rooting for him.  He's a good driver, even Vettel said so and he respects Leclerc.  It's frustrating to watch him suffer from his team's idiotic calls sometimes.  But don't lose hope if you're a Ferrari fan.  Good things will come as Binotto is a good builder of cars.  It's the team's race strategist who should go.

The country of India with a very strong economic and cultural strength will make its debut in the world automotive sports event (MotoGP) where the schedule is also included in the MotoGP calendar for next year. This is really unique where Dorna is targeting a country with a very large market share of motorcycle users there (India). Buddh International Circuit, as the Grand Prix of Bharat is the latest addition to Kazakhstan which has been included in the MotoGP calendar 2023. So the number of races for next year will be 21 races.
Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/09/30/motogp-to-race-in-india-from-2023/438681

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m57.782s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m58.308s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m58.848s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m59.429s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m59.562s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m00.373s
7   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   2m00.911s
8   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m01.007s
9   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.010s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.036s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   2m01.089s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.220s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   2m01.245s
14   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   2m01.502s
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    2m01.679s
16   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.791s
17   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   2m01.907s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.066s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.599s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   2m03.510s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1013363/1/f1-2022-singapore-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3


was light rain on the track, not a surprise to read the top drivers when skill is involved.

FIA is killing F1 lately and it all started since Liberty Media came to power and started to demand things in left and right and everyone is kinda dancing like they told to. As a long F1 fan , I really lost passion for it during this year because we can all see that they wanna push Max and over hype him like no other driver in history and that makes me sick. Then , we have RBR , who will make anything and try anything in order to make Max win the races no matter what they need to do...overall , this is not F1 I fell in love with 24 years ago...

Marquez has not had thousands of injuries except for only two in the same hand and it has been operated on four times which has prevented him from performing better. And his career in the MotoGP class is indeed extraordinary, but Marquez's own gait at the MotoGP has only been running for 9 years if it is calculated from 2013 to this year.

Tomorrow Marquez will start the race in 8th position and that is not very good because considering there are many Ducati motorcycles in front of him tomorrow and among the six Ducati motorcycles one of them will definitely be very superior in tomorrow's race. And congratulations to Marco Bezzecchi who earned Pole position by breaking the 2019 record set by Quartararo. This is something very extraordinary because Valentino Rossi's independent team will start the race in first position with Jorge Martin and Pecco Bagnaia completing the grid on a Ducati.

Yeah F1 is always like gossip and we have to see to whom those titles will go if the FIA decides to remove them from Redbull which I find it extremely highly unlikely.

By the way does any driver has penalties for today and tomorrow,I need this to know before going to place a bet,I checked the news and I didn't see penalties for Verstappen or Leclerc which are the main candidates to win the qualifying.

The big scandal of F1 is not over yet, the media are questioning the 3 titles won by RBR

The violation of the salary cap is huge, 10 million and it equals to years of engineering work.

Practice sessions are likely to be misleading as always. Ferrari always seem much better here but as of even qualifying session things start to go Red Bull's way directly.

I feel the same thing for this race as usual. However we might see an interesting race at the same time if we see some rain during the race. But even under rain Verstappen still has a big advantage. Actually Hamilton also likes rainy days but he still hasn't got a strong car to compete with Verstappen at the same level yet. Actually I'm thinking of betting on qualifying session and race both.



The odds for qualifying session are really close to each other for Verstappen and Leclerc. As I find Verstappen's odd pretty tempting I'll go with it.



However I can't say the same thing for the race.    But if I combine Verstappen on both of them the total odd is 4.03 which is very ideal.

As predicted, Fia is already covering it all.

They said it is only speculation from Germany and Italy. 

Looking good doesn't enough.

Who give a shit good on "Practice or Qualification" while Redbull always take Podium no matter position they start (Started on up to 10+ position grid). As TIFOSI, a good time watching "Ferarri" is always on Friday & Saturday.

Because, we're struggling take podium in Sunday ~XD.

What about the RBR going over the budget cap?
As I know the FIA, they will not punish them, again.

It is a shame, they were gifted with the title over Hamilton and they also cheated.

The Ferraris looking good at the second practice by topping the leaderboards but seeing that Verstappen is just there means that maybe Redbull has not use its full power which has been the case in the last race.I know there are a lot of drivers who maybe get penalized but I don't know who they are,nevertheless as we saw in the last race it won't do anything good to the race even if Verstappen starts 14th or lower in the grid because most probably he is going to win it anyway and this is a good track which emphasizes drivers capability.

^  FP2 has a more interesting result.  I'm pretty sure Ferrari fans will be happy.  Lol.  After a few more tweaks with the cars to get the right balance, FP3 will really be interesting...  Quali after that.  I think the books might have over valued Verstappen lining him at 1.40 going into the event.  From a betting perspective it's good that he loses so we get the normal +EV lines in the next couple of races again. 

2022 F1 Singapore GP FP2 Results

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.587s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.795s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m42.911s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m42.926s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.182s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m43.412s
7   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m43.431s
8   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m43.520s
9   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.906s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.982s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.013s
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.219s
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m44.422s
14   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m44.469s
15   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m44.524s
16   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m45.144s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m45.211s
18   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m45.447s
19   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   1m45.623s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m46.553s

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.033s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.117s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.435s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.839s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.066s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m44.138s
7   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.736s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m45.221s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m45.258s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m45.336s
11   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m45.354s
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m45.724s
13   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.725s
14   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m46.028s
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m46.081s
16   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m46.119s
17   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m46.408s
18   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   1m46.601s
19   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m46.680s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m47.092s


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1013176/1/f1-2022-singapore-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1


The first hour of free practice has been concluded with Mercedes on Top 

I also think that the huge lead in points that Verstappen is now having over LeClerc is not really an indicator about the performances of both cars, because the Red Bull is not that far ahead of the Ferrari in terms of performance. That is pretty obvious in most of the qualifyings and of course also in the races. A huge factor is the performance of Max Verstappen himself this year. He is driving on a extremely high level almost every race and basically did not make a single big mistake so far this season if i remember correctly.
This is pretty obvious if you compare his results with the ones of Sergio Perez, who is having a hard time to be in front of the Ferraris in most races.

I must agree in totally with you because I think Ferrari had the better car at the start of the season but the car itself had no durability and that put Ferrari down in the next coming races alongside with a few mistakes by Leclerc that cost them 1 win but overall , Ferrari shined for only 4 races and that's it. RedBull are working like an AI , doing almost no mistakes , they have clean pit stops , clean strategies and 2 drivers that so far acting like a team.

I also think RedBull was not the better car in the field especially in the first half of the season, and by no means as dominant as Mercedes the last 8 years (felt), but Ferrari and also LecLerc have many own mistakes and that's why they are where they are now.
RedBull had most the better strategy and also the better pit stops, the combination of car, team and Verstappen as a driver is unattainable this year, but Ferrari screwed that up themselves.

I think no one has doubts that Marquez is the best rider from these that are racing in MotoGP but we all know his story and his thousand injuries which at some point have hindered his career in MotoGP.

He has won even against much better riders than the ones actually participating right now in MotoGP and I think the fact that he is setting the best time shows a lot about his performance rather than Honda right now.It is one of those examples where the man is above the machine.He only adds to the beauty of MotoGP and I hope he still continues to race next year and be injury free.