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Quote from: Koal-84 on September 26, 2022, 03:45:48 AM

18 points is not really much, you only have to slip once, there are still 100 points to be awarded, but if Fabio does it cleverly he could keep the lead until the end, correctly Bagnaia and Aleix now have the pressure to always be in front of Fabio, but it remains exciting.

Yeah, 18 points is not a lot for Pecco Bagnaia to chase and it could be very easy to chase if Fabio Quartararo doesn't finish in a good position in the next race (ThailandGP) this week. And I predict that this week's race which takes place in Thailand will be very exciting if the circuit does not rain.

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In Thailand I expect the Ducatis to be at the front again, long straights favour the Ducatis a bit, Bagnaia had a run, he mustn't get too nervous now.

There are two straight tracks on the Chang Thailand circuit that Ducati can take advantage of and it seems that the Ducati riders did not hear the instructions from Davide Tardozzi. They will all fight as usual without seeing Pecco Bagnaia who is fighting for the world title this season.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 26, 2022, 05:44:02 AM

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Furthermore Verstappen seems to be the new Hamilton, because currently he looks unstoppable and it’s quite possible that going ahead he can easily break Hamilton’s records in F1.

This is the thing I'm afraid of the most.

If Verstappen continues to dominate F1 for long years seasons will start to become boring again. Verstappen is so close to increasing his title streak to two seasons now. I have hopes about next season though. Because it depends on how much Ferrari and Mercedes develop themselves to be a serious competitor for Red Bull. Maybe we can see McLaren or Alpine doing much better than this too but it is still difficult for them to join the title race as there is a big gap to close up.

Even if Verstappen wins that season also, at least I hope to see a big competition for the championship between two or maybe even three drivers. These drivers would be Verstappen, Leclerc and Hamilton I guess. Hamilton wants the 8th title to own the record only himself so I don't think he would let Russell get past him when they both have fast cars.

I feel like it's not going to be that easy for Verstappen. I mean look at it this way, Hamilton used to win with 30+ seconds, sometimes as high as 1 minute difference to closest one. I remember very clearly the 2020 silverstone where he literally finished the last lap with one tire missing and still won, he was that much dominant.

Verstappen doesn't have that, sure he looks like the best one right now, but let's remember how it looked during first weeks of the season. Ferrari got worse, Mercedes got better, next season when both of those teams get it together they are going to be a tough opponent for Verstappen for sure. I don't see that kind of domination to be fair.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 25, 2022, 10:28:04 PM

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Furthermore Verstappen seems to be the new Hamilton, because currently he looks unstoppable and it’s quite possible that going ahead he can easily break Hamilton’s records in F1.

This is the thing I'm afraid of the most.

If Verstappen continues to dominate F1 for long years seasons will start to become boring again. Verstappen is so close to increasing his title streak to two seasons now. I have hopes about next season though. Because it depends on how much Ferrari and Mercedes develop themselves to be a serious competitor for Red Bull. Maybe we can see McLaren or Alpine doing much better than this too but it is still difficult for them to join the title race as there is a big gap to close up.

Even if Verstappen wins that season also, at least I hope to see a big competition for the championship between two or maybe even three drivers. These drivers would be Verstappen, Leclerc and Hamilton I guess. Hamilton wants the 8th title to own the record only himself so I don't think he would let Russell get past him when they both have fast cars.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on September 25, 2022, 03:31:38 AM

18 points lead makes Quartararo more comfortable in the remaining 4 Races this season, he just needs to be consistent to become world champion. and now the pressure is back on Bagnaia, even though before the Motegi Race Bagnaia was very convincing to be able to approach Quartararo's points which he had done in several previous Races but unfortunately he was in a hurry and made a mistake on the last lap that made him fall.
Now Bagnaia has to fight hard in the remaining 4 Races of the season, this will still be interesting because 18 points are still very likely to be pursued.

18 points is not really much, you only have to slip once, there are still 100 points to be awarded, but if Fabio does it cleverly he could keep the lead until the end, correctly Bagnaia and Aleix now have the pressure to always be in front of Fabio, but it remains exciting.

In Thailand I expect the Ducatis to be at the front again, long straights favour the Ducatis a bit, Bagnaia had a run, he mustn't get too nervous now.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on September 25, 2022, 03:31:38 AM

18 points lead makes Quartararo more comfortable in the remaining 4 Races this season, he just needs to be consistent to become world champion. and now the pressure is back on Bagnaia, even though before the Motegi Race Bagnaia was very convincing to be able to approach Quartararo's points which he had done in several previous Races but unfortunately he was in a hurry and made a mistake on the last lap that made him fall.
Now Bagnaia has to fight hard in the remaining 4 Races of the season, this will still be interesting because 18 points are still very likely to be pursued.

The next race this week will be held at the Chang International circuit located in Buriram Thailand. In general it is still in Asia and Fabio Quartararo has also had good achievements there, besides that the Ducati motorbike was also very good when it was still ridden by Dovizioso a few years ago before the pandemic occurred.
Now what's interesting is that they (Fabio and Pecco) will both fight there to keep getting as many points as possible because this is a very fierce competition and it's almost the end of the season.

Quote from: swogerino on September 25, 2022, 08:27:53 AM

Well I woke up early today and I was not at all disappointed from the race,I would of course loved to see Marquez winning but he could not keep the lead for that many laps.What I loved the most was Jack Miller winning the race and I don't know if he had won many races lately but the last race that he won that I remember was in Australia many years ago,in his home race when all the legends like Rossi,Lorenzo and others were also racing,the race of today in Japan it revived many beautiful memories to me.

This season Jack Miller has just won his first race and he has done an incredible job winning races in Japan with Ducati before he moves to KTM next season.
On the one hand, Ducati was happy with the victory given by Jack Miller, but on the other hand, Ducati was very sad when they saw Pecco Bagnaia crash in the final laps of the race.

For Marc Marquez I was also amazing because he was able to get first place in qualifying in wet conditions, but he got tired very quickly when fighting in dry conditions so he didn't get on the podium after fighting against the riders from KTM (Miguel Oliveira and Brad Binder)

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It looks like the straights are too long on this track which might cause it to be a little boring for spectators. Of course this would help us see more overtakes but the track would just be uniform because of lacking many sharp turns. But I'm always open for new tracks in F1 as this might help increase the curiosity level of people in this sport. Having always the same tracks might start to be boring for some people at some point. I wonder if we will see Caribbean GP being added later into 2023 calendar.

I think I like the layout.

It has big breaks so it means more overtakes, but it also depends on how large the street is.

Fun fact it will be hot whenever they will race always over 30°C

September and October seem lovely for a race on this track. Maybe we might see some rain which would make the race even more attracting for people. Grin

Singapore GP is closing in as there is only a week left. This is one of the very lovely races in F1 due to being a night race.

Let's see how long Verstappen's winning streak will continue - 5 wins for now. Leclerc will hope him to make a mistake or have a problem with his car to win this. Otherwise there is no chance I'm afraid.

I'd like to add Hamilton's unforgettable lap on this track in 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI3JzYCL3K0

@Distraction night races are always fun to watch, and even if the weather is hot I’m sure that the fans will enjoy watching this race and as an additional bonuses let’s hope that we get to see some over taking's taking place. Furthermore Verstappen seems to be the new Hamilton, because currently he looks unstoppable and it’s quite possible that going ahead he can easily break Hamilton’s records in F1.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 24, 2022, 03:13:47 PM

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It looks like the straights are too long on this track which might cause it to be a little boring for spectators. Of course this would help us see more overtakes but the track would just be uniform because of lacking many sharp turns. But I'm always open for new tracks in F1 as this might help increase the curiosity level of people in this sport. Having always the same tracks might start to be boring for some people at some point. I wonder if we will see Caribbean GP being added later into 2023 calendar.

I think I like the layout.

It has big breaks so it means more overtakes, but it also depends on how large the street is.

Fun fact it will be hot whenever they will race always over 30°C

September and October seem lovely for a race on this track. Maybe we might see some rain which would make the race even more attracting for people. Grin

Singapore GP is closing in as there is only a week left. This is one of the very lovely races in F1 due to being a night race.

Let's see how long Verstappen's winning streak will continue - 5 wins for now. Leclerc will hope him to make a mistake or have a problem with his car to win this. Otherwise there is no chance I'm afraid.

I'd like to add Hamilton's unforgettable lap on this track in 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI3JzYCL3K0

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 24, 2022, 05:39:28 PM

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So it is basically official now.
Latifi will be not on William the next year.

Will the goat be able to find a new seat?

In F1? I doubt Roll Eyes

Latifi is considered one of the most irregular drivers on the circuit in recent years, not just in 2022. Everyone remembers Latifi for the famous mistakes he has already made, mainly for being the protagonist of last year's championship decision, when he crashed alone, forcing the entry of the safety car, which culminated in the victory and the title of Max Verstappen over Lewis Hamilton.

I'm sorry but Latifi is too bad to be in F1, who's going to want him?

Racing world is one that is barely making any money, most of the time not even make money at all. Which means that there is a racing team out there, maybe in e-formula, maybe in indy, somewhere that is liked, that would want his money for sure. That way he would continue to work hard and be better, which he would probably fair, and make a comeback.

He will surely fail, but if you bring that much sponsorship, then you do end up working with a team one way or another, he will definitely find a place for himself. Like you said, maybe it won't be f1, but he will find something, even in nascar if he has to, doesn't matter where it will be, he is rich after all, so he doesn't race for money, he even pays to race.

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Mark Marquez released an interview at the end of the race and he said he feel no pain in his arm.
He got 4 surgical operations until now from the accident.

The next week they will have another race and if it will be confirmed with no pain I think we can put Marquez as favorite for the next year championship without any doubt.

Dude's extremely tough and ballsy given his age and the amount of injuries he accumulated over the years of racing for MotoGP. That crash doesn't seem to be that bad but for sure the amount of stress it had on his left shoulder upon impact must have been really great. Marquez even went so far as to just having his left arm feeling "lazy" and even wanted to attack Oliveira several times during the race. He's a legend that still keeps on giving, and hopefully he gets full recovery before the start of next week's race.

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Mark Marquez released an interview at the end of the race and he said he feel no pain in his arm.
He got 4 surgical operations until now from the accident.

The next week they will have another race and if it will be confirmed with no pain I think we can put Marquez as favorite for the next year championship without any doubt.

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A very unexpected outcome of the race and a very big mistake by Bagnaia for the championship, but he was very annoyed and applauded himself for leaving very important points on the track and that in the last lap🤦

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Well I woke up early today and I was not at all disappointed from the race,I would of course loved to see Marquez winning but he could not keep the lead for that many laps.What I loved the most was Jack Miller winning the race and I don't know if he had won many races lately but the last race that he won that I remember was in Australia many years ago,in his home race when all the legends like Rossi,Lorenzo and others were also racing,the race of today in Japan it revived many beautiful memories to me.

miller was outstanding from the start of the race, he took first place on the third lap after passing binder and martin. what concerns me is the burning Suzuki motorcycle, it seems Suzuki's safety is very vulnerable

the regret is how bagnaia crashed on the last lap, even though he could have finished in 8th position

That is some mistake which cannot be forgiven as he is playing his chances of winning the MotoGP season down a lot.He should have been happy with whatever position he would have got in order to save the race.He saw that he could not have done much because this was not a track favorable to him and he should have been a calculator but he choose to be a rider.While I agree that being a rider shows true performance but sometimes you need to be a calculator especially in such cases like this one where you know that only 4 races remain and every point you collect can be decisive.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 25, 2022, 08:27:53 AM

Well I woke up early today and I was not at all disappointed from the race,I would of course loved to see Marquez winning but he could not keep the lead for that many laps.What I loved the most was Jack Miller winning the race and I don't know if he had won many races lately but the last race that he won that I remember was in Australia many years ago,in his home race when all the legends like Rossi,Lorenzo and others were also racing,the race of today in Japan it revived many beautiful memories to me.

miller was outstanding from the start of the race, he took first place on the third lap after passing binder and martin. what concerns me is the burning Suzuki motorcycle, it seems Suzuki's safety is very vulnerable

the regret is how bagnaia crashed on the last lap, even though he could have finished in 8th position

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Terrible result for Bagnaia now the odds for him winning the championship are a lot lowers, he could make more points but he wanted too much.

We still have only 4 races left for a total of 100 points max.

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Well I woke up early today and I was not at all disappointed from the race,I would of course loved to see Marquez winning but he could not keep the lead for that many laps.What I loved the most was Jack Miller winning the race and I don't know if he had won many races lately but the last race that he won that I remember was in Australia many years ago,in his home race when all the legends like Rossi,Lorenzo and others were also racing,the race of today in Japan it revived many beautiful memories to me.

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Starting the race from behind Bagnaia had a tough race due to pressure problems in the front tire and had a hard time overtaking. This was bad development for him. He recovered in the final stages but found himself on the ground in the final lap. He pushed himself for a point and was out of the race. It wasn't worth one point in my opinion. Bagnaia succumbed to his greed. It would have been better to finish the race safely and i think he regretted it. Too much ambition can lead to bad results. He needs to make smart moves. I understand that too because it's hard to lag behind and it's hard to achieve success without ambition.

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what happened at the Motegi Race was far from what I expected, it's a shame that bad luck befell Aleix Espargaro and Bagnaia in this Race.
Aleix Espargaro couldn't start with another rider due to motorcycle problems and he was far behind.
while Bagnaia was very ambitious to catch Quartararo until he fell on the last lap, this is very unfortunate considering that he is competing with Quartararo for the world champion this season.
but from all that, of course Quartararo greatly benefited because his two competitors Aleix Espargaro and Bagnaia failed to get points.

Today was like a lucky day for Fabio Quartararo because all his competitors finished behind him, such as (Pecco Bagnaia who crashed, and Aleix Espargaro who finished 16th who did not get any points and Bastianini who finished behind Fabio Quartararo). So this result makes Fabio Quartararo still lead in the temporary standings because the distance of his points is starting to increase again.

18 points lead makes Quartararo more comfortable in the remaining 4 Races this season, he just needs to be consistent to become world champion. and now the pressure is back on Bagnaia, even though before the Motegi Race Bagnaia was very convincing to be able to approach Quartararo's points which he had done in several previous Races but unfortunately he was in a hurry and made a mistake on the last lap that made him fall.
Now Bagnaia has to fight hard in the remaining 4 Races of the season, this will still be interesting because 18 points are still very likely to be pursued.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on September 25, 2022, 02:15:00 AM

what happened at the Motegi Race was far from what I expected, it's a shame that bad luck befell Aleix Espargaro and Bagnaia in this Race.
Aleix Espargaro couldn't start with another rider due to motorcycle problems and he was far behind.
while Bagnaia was very ambitious to catch Quartararo until he fell on the last lap, this is very unfortunate considering that he is competing with Quartararo for the world champion this season.
but from all that, of course Quartararo greatly benefited because his two competitors Aleix Espargaro and Bagnaia failed to get points.

Today was like a lucky day for Fabio Quartararo because all his competitors finished behind him, such as (Pecco Bagnaia who crashed, and Aleix Espargaro who finished 16th who did not get any points and Bastianini who finished behind Fabio Quartararo). So this result makes Fabio Quartararo still lead in the temporary standings because the distance of his points is starting to increase again.

Quote from: yudi09 on September 25, 2022, 02:17:20 AM

Podium one for Jack Miller at the Motegi circuit in Japan. The Australian racer with the Ducati Lenovo Team was successful in claiming four victories. Red Bull KTM Factory Racing driver Brad Binder, who managed to finish in second position, kept distracting Miller's focus, making his bid to win the race at the Motegi Circuit intriguing.
Pecco Bagnaia, Miller's teammate, fell on the final lap and was unable to complete the race.

What is very unfortunate today is that Marc Marquez as a pole position could not maintain his good position and was not able to finish the race on the podium because considering that Marc Marquez had not gotten a podium at all this season.

And yes, congratulations to Jack Miller who has been able to win the race in this race. It was Jack Miller's first win of the season in front of Honda fans, because Motegi is like the home of the Honda factory, but unfortunately their riders in the MotoGP class are not getting good results.

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Podium one for Jack Miller at the Motegi circuit in Japan. The Australian racer with the Ducati Lenovo Team was successful in claiming four victories. Red Bull KTM Factory Racing driver Brad Binder, who managed to finish in second position, kept distracting Miller's focus, making his bid to win the race at the Motegi Circuit intriguing.
Pecco Bagnaia, Miller's teammate, fell on the final lap and was unable to complete the race.

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Of course, a fierce race will be inevitable in the Motegi Race this season, especially since Quartararo and Bagnaia's competition is very tight after Quartararo lost points in the previous race and thus the distance between Fabio and Bagnaia is only 10 points apart.
and for the race at Motegi this season I will still favor Ducati, I think the number of straights will be very beneficial for those who have an above average bike speed.

Motegi does have a straight path and also many and there is a long one. This is obviously very profitable for Ducati, but don't forget that Motegi also has fast corners and also corners that are very close to the other corners. This is of little benefit to motorcycles with inline4 engines such as Suzuki and Yamaha. But what will help a lot on the Motegi track I think is Aprilia because Aleix Espargaro is very confident that he can win at Motegi.

what happened at the Motegi Race was far from what I expected, it's a shame that bad luck befell Aleix Espargaro and Bagnaia in this Race.
Aleix Espargaro couldn't start with another rider due to motorcycle problems and he was far behind.
while Bagnaia was very ambitious to catch Quartararo until he fell on the last lap, this is very unfortunate considering that he is competing with Quartararo for the world champion this season.
but from all that, of course Quartararo greatly benefited because his two competitors Aleix Espargaro and Bagnaia failed to get points.

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