Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... - page 272.

Luzin

hero member

Activity: 1400

Merit: 770

Quote from: Davian144 on May 09, 2022, 02:55:57 AM

Suzuki out, Kawasaki and BMW in...

There are so many comments, bro, but unfortunately building a prototype motorbike is not as easy as typing in the comments column. It takes money and a long time, you can see KTM and Aprilia

Interesting if it does happen, anything is possible. Kawasaki used to be in MotoGP but they came out in 2008 if I wasn't mistaken. It seems that the contract this time is different, because of Dorna's experience from the Kawasaki case. According to the source I read that Dorna currently provides subsidies greater than Tim spends so they assume if the cost issue is unreasonable. So far there has been no official statement from Suzuki, let's wait.

swogerino

legendary

Activity: 3318

Merit: 1247

Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 10, 2022, 04:54:10 PM

Ferrari from Barcellona will have a new bottom of the car.

Also, Aston Marting in Barcellona will have version 2 of the car and it will be simal to Ferrari.

If that happens to translate into a better performance for the car then I think the Championship can be considered over and Ferrari to be really the best car.Leclerc is there and if he just get this upgrade it is everything he needs to win every remaining race comfortably.I hope that Redbull can bring updates to their car too otherwise it would become a really boring F1 Championship for this season.I am also waiting for that massive upgrade from Mercedes which they have promised to bring in Spain as far as I heard.

Juggy777

hero member

Activity: 2646

Merit: 686

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 11, 2022, 02:22:09 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 09, 2022, 03:02:21 AM

I've not seen any suggestion that Mercedes have broken the rules, what is the illegal (or grey area) thing that they're doing?

it is difficult to explain without going into the technical but in a nutshell, they have started using flaps where no one is using them to push the air behind the front wheels and greatly reduce the friction of the wheels.
Depending on Sky Italy, they were able to do so because they "interpreted" the regulation in their own way so that the other teams will soon appeal or copy it if considered regular.

@coinlocket$ so far it’s looks like an smart innovation by Mercedes, and it’s does seem to be working for them and furthermore I don’t think that they’re violating any rule so far, because there doesn’t seem to be any news about them breaking any rules. Lastly I believe that you’re correct because other cars will be keenly observing how it’s working for them, and if it’s successful then they’ll adopt it too.

coinlocket$

legendary

Activity: 2534

Merit: 1517

#1 VIP Crypto Casino

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 09, 2022, 03:02:21 AM

I've not seen any suggestion that Mercedes have broken the rules, what is the illegal (or grey area) thing that they're doing?

it is difficult to explain without going into the technical but in a nutshell, they have started using flaps where no one is using them to push the air behind the front wheels and greatly reduce the friction of the wheels.
Depending on Sky Italy, they were able to do so because they "interpreted" the regulation in their own way so that the other teams will soon appeal or copy it if considered regular.

Republikcoin.com

legendary

Activity: 2716

Merit: 1102

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

With two top 10 finishes, Marco Bezzecchi has emerged as the most impressive debutant in the first six races of the 2022 MotoGP.

Unexpectedly, Bezzecchi was able to outperform the four rivals. Racing using the Ducati Desmosedici GP21, the performance is quite brilliant. Evidenced by the results of the races at Termas de Rio Hondo and Jerez.

Until the Spanish Grand Prix series, Bezzecchi has packed 15 points. Italiano is in 18th place in the standings, three places ahead of Binder, even one position above his tandem, Marini.

“In MotoGP you have to learn a lot about the bike and its style. I guess you never stop learning when it comes to this category," said the young man who is familiarly called Bez.
_{Source: Motorsports / gpmaniac.id}

coinlocket$

legendary

Activity: 2534

Merit: 1517

#1 VIP Crypto Casino

Ferrari from Barcellona will have a new bottom of the car.

Also, Aston Marting in Barcellona will have version 2 of the car and it will be simal to Ferrari.

Koal-84

legendary

Activity: 2660

Merit: 1154

Quote from: Davian144 on May 09, 2022, 11:31:24 PM

The news that Suzuki will leave the MotoGP World Championship at the end of 2022 has made a number of riders worried about his current position.
Alex Rins is believed to be looking for a new team to replace Suzuki. The man from Spain is reportedly one of Aprilia's favorite drivers.

If this news becomes reality, Vinales' career in MotoGP could be over. Vinales came to MotoGP in 2015 after being pulled over by Suzuki.
Interestingly, when Vinales left Suzuki in 2017, Rins, who was then a young racer, was chosen to replace him. Now, it is Rins who has a great opportunity to replace Vinales at Aprilia.

So really fixed the exit of Suzuki is not yet, but the two drivers are young and good even with a world champion. Since it is understandable that the driver carousel comes into motion. Also Fabio and Miller have no fixed contract and Yamaha and the werksducati are good addresses.

Why after these unexpected Suzuki would like to get out is still a mystery to me with a valid contract with the company?

wiss19

sr. member

Activity: 2296

Merit: 348

Honestly that take off at the start of the race was one of the main reasons why Max won, that was such a crucial and important thing. If Sainz stayed in front, he could have defended Max as much as he possibly could, even a 5 second situation would have seen Charles win easily and not be bothered, that 5 seconds becomes such a big role in decisions and unless you make a strategy mistake, you end up winning almost all the time, even against cars that are faster.

I am guessing that Max will win this year as well if nothing unexpected happens, sure Charles won some races but he did that when Max didn't finish, so if reliability issues are solved, then Red Bull should have an easy win.

Davian144

hero member

Activity: 2576

Merit: 579

The news that Suzuki will leave the MotoGP World Championship at the end of 2022 has made a number of riders worried about his current position.
Alex Rins is believed to be looking for a new team to replace Suzuki. The man from Spain is reportedly one of Aprilia's favorite drivers.

If this news becomes reality, Vinales' career in MotoGP could be over. Vinales came to MotoGP in 2015 after being pulled over by Suzuki.
Interestingly, when Vinales left Suzuki in 2017, Rins, who was then a young racer, was chosen to replace him. Now, it is Rins who has a great opportunity to replace Vinales at Aprilia.

Aprilia will most likely soon make a contract proposal for Rins who is looking for a new team. In addition to his profile, Rivola will also offer a lower salary than what Vinales is currently receiving, which is around 2 million euros per year.

This savings is believed to be able to make Aprilia able to meet the demands for a salary increase proposed by Aleix Espargaro.
If the offer has been submitted and Rins agrees, mainly willing to accept the challenge of changing the engine from an inline-four cylinder to a V4, Vinales will certainly be eliminated. _{Source: Motorsport.com & gpnews.ig}

swogerino

legendary

Activity: 3318

Merit: 1247

Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013

A really well deserved victory for Max that he architect-ed right in the beginning of the race by overtaking Sainz as I think that was the move that made him win the race.I say so because if Sainz would have been ahead of Verstappen in the first turn he would be playing the role of a slow down to Verstappen before Verstappen would have overtaken him thus giving time to Leclerc to go away.The second sector was the one which gave the victory to Redbull as their top speed was the best one during this race.

Cnut237

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1277

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 08, 2022, 01:24:58 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 07, 2022, 01:45:34 PM

Mercedes is hiding they did a thing in the gray area of the regulation

I've not seen any suggestion that Mercedes have broken the rules, what is the illegal (or grey area) thing that they're doing?

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 08, 2022, 05:04:14 PM

Max won, and Redbull was stronger overall.

Good results for Mercedes but they are using a grey area of the new rules, if they will be ok others team will copy it.

The track after all was not so bad, overtakes were possibile.

I'm still not sure what you're alluding to. I assume I'm missing something, but I've not seen anything about Mercedes breaking or bending the rules. What is it they're doing?

Anyway, I don't think it was a good result for Merc after the promise they showed on Friday. I'd certainly agree that RB had the strongest package here, and a Max win was almost inevitable... although Leclerc probably needs to get his elbows out a bit and fight even if the other car is faster.

Davian144

hero member

Activity: 2576

Merit: 579

Suzuki out, Kawasaki and BMW in...

There are so many comments, bro, but unfortunately building a prototype motorbike is not as easy as typing in the comments column. It takes money and a long time, you can see KTM and Aprilia

So in conclusion it is impossible to see Kawasaki or BMW enter MotoGP in place of Suzuki if they really leave. _{Source: gpcornercom}

dezoel

legendary

Activity: 2044

Merit: 1075

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

I do understand it when Charles is above Max, because it could happen and he has a good car and Charles is their future and all that, but Max should have at least got to front line, and be above Sainz.

This will make things harder for him to catch up, Sainz will either try to be at first and get help, or if he is not then he will start defending against Max and let Charles go as fast as possible until Max passes Sainz so that Charles would be too far ahead, or maybe even Sainz ends second. This 1-2 starting always gives a good strategy boost to teams, you never know what will happen at the start, but Max is not known for his amazing starts anyway.

bestcoins1

hero member

Activity: 2338

Merit: 737

Quote from: Koal-84 on May 07, 2022, 03:41:00 AM

So I think Honda is also decisively to blame for the misery at the moment, Honda has set only on Marc and developed the bike only on him personally, you have seen it that no other riders have come to grips with the Honda well.

After the accident, Marc has never again become so fit to physically compensate for the deficits of the Honda, now they have meanwhile longer problems to find back on track.

If it is related in general, yes, Honda has also made mistakes through the development of its motorcycle which is only aimed at Marquez because I think it is also very natural that Honda only develops motorcycles for Marquez. Because in the past only Marquez was able to be competitive with Honda, while other riders were not.

Quote from: swogerino on May 07, 2022, 04:33:37 AM

This remind me of the saying never put all your eggs in one basket,meaning here that they invested everything to be based on Marc Marquez and we all know he is one of the best riders but after being badly injured he is not at the same level anymore.All other riders are having difficulties and this shows a big strategic mistake from Honda which they need to fix as soon as possible otherwise they risk big during this season.

That's true, and I think from now on Honda should change this way of development to all existing riders and not only to Marquez, because if Marquez is not fit, then Honda still has other riders to rely on in the race which will also be a problem. benefit Honda itself in MotoGP.

Uang_kartal

full member

Activity: 378

Merit: 167

betfury

Quote from: tokeweed on May 08, 2022, 04:17:12 PM

It was mostly a boring race except for the start when Verstappen got Sainz's position right off the bat then Leclerc's position to get first. Sainz was weak. He should've done a better job in defending his own position in order to defend Leclerc and have his team win the race. But props to Verstappen. He shows every race that he wants it more. Hope for a better race on the next one.

Did Verstappen lead all the laps? I wasn't paying attention anymore after the 15th lap or so. Anyway here are the results.

2022 F1 Miami GP Race Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   57 Laps
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 3.786s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   + 8.229s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   + 10.638s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 18.582s
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 21.368s
7   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 25.073s
8   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 28.386s
9   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 32.128s
10   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 32.365s
11   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 35.902s
12   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 37.026s
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 40.146s
14   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   + 49.936s
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   + 73.305s
16   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   + 1 Lap
DNF   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team
DNF   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri
DNF   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team
DNF   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen

wow, redbull gives a sweet note.
a few laps in a good run. The career that has grown since 2015 has proven that he (max verstapen) is worthy. I'm sure because after the first win last season and the umpteenth time it's been amazing. and even 3 times in this event. ferari and mercedes are behind brilliant with himself. seconds that pass I think agree with other friends, the kitchen is in a hurry and the settings are not so good. from several racers in miami I think they are very enthusiastic.bravo redbull

alegotardo

legendary

Activity: 2352

Merit: 1121

☢️ alegotardo™️

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 08, 2022, 05:11:53 PM

That Norris crash made end of race more interesting. There was really good fight for some laps for 1st and 3rd places. Otherwise most likely that it would confident win of Verstappen. Perez with fresh tyres wasn't able to overtake Sainz. Another solid performance by Russel, yes he got lucky by getting free pit stop, but it doesn't makes him performance worse. I don't understand why Hamilton didn't went to change his tyres during safety car and hisd engineer asked about it when it was way too late. Probably later it cost him lost position against Russel.
There was lot of fight between Hamilton and Russel and in the middle of peloton, but it was barely shown on TV screen.

Yes, Hammilton's situation was absurdly ridiculous.
Asking if Hammilton wanted to stop when it was too late ... it looks like this was purposeful and this season is increasingly disappointing for Hamilton.
I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire from F1 at the end of this season.

Anyway, none of this would have happened if this stupid accident caused by a lack of attention had been avoided.

LTU_btc

legendary

Activity: 3234

Merit: 1375

Slava Ukraini!

That Norris crash made end of race more interesting. There was really good fight for some laps for 1st and 3rd places. Otherwise most likely that it would confident win of Verstappen. Perez with fresh tyres wasn't able to overtake Sainz. Another solid performance by Russel, yes he got lucky by getting free pit stop, but it doesn't makes him performance worse. I don't understand why Hamilton didn't went to change his tyres during safety car and hisd engineer asked about it when it was way too late. Probably later it cost him lost position against Russel.
There was lot of fight between Hamilton and Russel and in the middle of peloton, but it was barely shown on TV screen.

coinlocket$

legendary

Activity: 2534

Merit: 1517

#1 VIP Crypto Casino

Max won, and Redbull was stronger overall.

Good results for Mercedes but they are using a grey area of the new rules, if they will be ok others team will copy it.

The track after all was not so bad, overtakes were possibile.

Jackl87

sr. member

Activity: 1722

Merit: 269

Quote from: ingiltere on May 08, 2022, 04:24:22 PM

Except Norris' crash it was a clean race. Verstappen started good and made another good attack to secure first place. Sainz didn't let Perez to pass him. Ferrari couldn't get the win but both racers made podium. They may be okay with that.
Mick Schumacher almost got his first points but in last laps he had a contact and got dropped out of first ten. In Mercedes Russell and Hamilton's competition was entertaining. It was a pretty decent race, looking forward to see more races in this track.

It was a pretty nice race to watch today and definitely not boring. I was surprised that the cars could stay out that long on the medium tires and George Russell could have probably driven the complete race with his starting hard tyres but of couse the rules are that you need to change the tyres at least once in a race and he was very lucky that he stayed out for so long as the safety car had to come out pretty late in the race after the crash of Lando Norris and Pierre Gasly so the gamble of Russell was successful in this case.
Also i feel pretty sad for Mick Schumacher as he would have gotten the first points in his career but then he crashed with his best buddy Vettel close to the end of the race..very very unlucky for both.

ingiltere

legendary

Activity: 2982

Merit: 1485

Except Norris' crash it was a clean race. Verstappen started good and made another good attack to secure first place. Sainz didn't let Perez to pass him. Ferrari couldn't get the win but both racers made podium. They may be okay with that.
Mick Schumacher almost got his first points but in last laps he had a contact and got dropped out of first ten. In Mercedes Russell and Hamilton's competition was entertaining. It was a pretty decent race, looking forward to see more races in this track.

Topic: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... - page 272. (Read 141766 times)