Very good start from Miller but he couldn't keep the speed, Bagnaia and Bastianini are riding in a league of their own today and looks like a Ducati double or triple win.
Too bad for the two Suzuki riders, had a very good speed but by the exit of Suzuki they probably wanted too much.
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May 15, 2022, 07:30:15 AM
May 15, 2022, 05:40:44 AM
Ferrari plans to use a new color starting in Barcelona, and the new paint is expected to save about 700 grams in weight. Is such a large reduction in weight even possible, seems like a lot to me...
And that although Ferrari is already to use the lightest color in the whole field 🤔
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-non-svernicia-la-f1-75-ma-toglie-il-trasparente/10303060/
It's quite possible, back in the day I remember a team (maybe it was red bull?) ended up literally scarping every single color and ended up just putting the sponsorship stuff and had no color at all, and they saved a ton of KG for doing something like that. It was a bit of a controversy so that team put the painting back in, but we at least know that there could be some KG saved from it.And that although Ferrari is already to use the lightest color in the whole field 🤔
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-non-svernicia-la-f1-75-ma-toglie-il-trasparente/10303060/
Ferrari is not looking at changing colors or having none, and these cars are HUGE if you look at them closely, which means that if you consider how much paint is used, then it becomes even more obvious and consider how they go 300+ km per hour at some point and that paint still stays, this is not some basic painting neither so basically yes it is possible.
May 14, 2022, 10:53:23 PM
BREAKING NEWS!
The race number 46 previously used by Valentino Rossi will be retired and the procession will take place at Mugello.
What do you think? The problem is that Mimin Rossi doesn't want his number to be retired. Source: xfuera.id
News from other sources in Italian to reinforce this is also available.
Valentino Rossi's number 46 will be picked up at Mugello: The ceremony will take place on Saturday 28 May, just before the MotoGP qualifying, on the starting grid of the Tuscan track in the presence of the Doctor. Source: gponedotcom
The race number 46 previously used by Valentino Rossi will be retired and the procession will take place at Mugello.
What do you think? The problem is that Mimin Rossi doesn't want his number to be retired. Source: xfuera.id
News from other sources in Italian to reinforce this is also available.
Valentino Rossi's number 46 will be picked up at Mugello: The ceremony will take place on Saturday 28 May, just before the MotoGP qualifying, on the starting grid of the Tuscan track in the presence of the Doctor. Source: gponedotcom
May 14, 2022, 05:01:36 PM
Ferrari plans to use a new color starting in Barcelona, and the new paint is expected to save about 700 grams in weight. Is such a large reduction in weight even possible, seems like a lot to me...
And that although Ferrari is already to use the lightest color in the whole field 🤔
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-non-svernicia-la-f1-75-ma-toglie-il-trasparente/10303060/
And that although Ferrari is already to use the lightest color in the whole field 🤔
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-non-svernicia-la-f1-75-ma-toglie-il-trasparente/10303060/
Whoah.
In the article, they are talking about 3 KG overall.
That is a big number, the average loss is 2.5/10 of a second for every 10kg.
So if that is true only by the weight they will be 1/10 faster, without considering the real improvments.
May 14, 2022, 08:45:03 AM
Back to back Pole position for Pecco Bagnaia by setting a new record lap at the French Le Mans circuit today and Bagnaia's team mate, Jack Miller, who was second. So factory Ducati will start racing tomorrow on the front grid for both of their riders and this is a very extraordinary thing considering that Jack Miller with Ducati also won last year at France's Le Mans circuit.
Exactly by teamwork are both factory Ducatis in first and second place, very well done by Bagnaia and Miller, also the 3rd place of Alex on the Aprilia was again a very good performance.
Tomorrow will be an exciting race and Ducati is for me the favorite, it looks like Ducati in contrast to the beginning of the season understands the new bike better. At the beginning of the year Ducati still had some problems.
May 14, 2022, 08:05:15 AM
Back to back Pole position for Pecco Bagnaia by setting a new record lap at the French Le Mans circuit today and Bagnaia's team mate, Jack Miller, who was second. So factory Ducati will start racing tomorrow on the front grid for both of their riders and this is a very extraordinary thing considering that Jack Miller with Ducati also won last year at France's Le Mans circuit.
May 14, 2022, 01:24:11 AM
Ferrari plans to use a new color starting in Barcelona, and the new paint is expected to save about 700 grams in weight. Is such a large reduction in weight even possible, seems like a lot to me...
And that although Ferrari is already to use the lightest color in the whole field 🤔
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-non-svernicia-la-f1-75-ma-toglie-il-trasparente/10303060/
And that although Ferrari is already to use the lightest color in the whole field 🤔
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-non-svernicia-la-f1-75-ma-toglie-il-trasparente/10303060/
May 13, 2022, 10:03:16 PM
So far there has been no official statement from Suzuki, let's wait.
The confirmation from Suzuki itself has come out and in general it is very clear that the Suzuki manufacturer is indeed going to leave the MotoGP and other racing events.Next is the official statement from Suzuki that I read on Suzuki's official website;
"SUZUKI ANNOUNCEMENT"
Team Suzuki Press Office – May 12.
Suzuki Motor Corporation is in discussions with Dorna regarding the possibility of ending its participation in MotoGP at the end of 2022.
Unfortunately, the current economical situation and the need to concentrate its effort on the big changes that the Automotive world is facing in these years, are forcing Suzuki to shift costs and human resources to develop new technologies.
We would like to express our deepest gratitude to our Suzuki Ecstar Team, to all those who have supported Suzuki's motorcycle racing activities for many years and to all Suzuki fans who have given us their enthusiastic support. Source: https://www.suzuki-racing.com/motogp/SUZUKI-ANNOUNCEMENT.138681.cms
May 13, 2022, 06:00:18 PM
Whit this change they were able to reach 5th-6th position in the last GP, imagine how big is not having a wall of hair in the front tires while everyone else got it.
If Miami is the only race they've had this new development, then it seems to have had zero positive effect. Fifth and sixth is not an improvement over any other race this season, most races they've been around there or a bit higher. After the final restart they were losing about a second a lap on the Ferrari and RB, which is in line with the rest of the season. It sounds as though if it gets banned, it won't make their car any worse.
We will see in a fast track.
Miami is a Monaco Looks like a race with no high-speed turns.
May 13, 2022, 02:48:06 PM
At Suzuki, unfortunately, it is now fixed and at the end of the 2022 season Suzuki will withdraw from MotoGP. The reasons given are for economic reasons. Mir is allegedly already in talks with HRC Honda.
But there will also be talks with Dorna, because Suzuki had a contract until 2026.
But there will also be talks with Dorna, because Suzuki had a contract until 2026.
May 13, 2022, 02:46:39 PM
Whit this change they were able to reach 5th-6th position in the last GP, imagine how big is not having a wall of hair in the front tires while everyone else got it.
If Miami is the only race they've had this new development, then it seems to have had zero positive effect. Fifth and sixth is not an improvement over any other race this season, most races they've been around there or a bit higher. After the final restart they were losing about a second a lap on the Ferrari and RB, which is in line with the rest of the season. It sounds as though if it gets banned, it won't make their car any worse.If Red Bull doesn't get any reliability issues and stop during the race, they will win most races and they will end up with the title again, this time around they will do it not just driver but also constructor as well. Hence why I believe it's not going to be that possible for Mercedes to win anything.
May 13, 2022, 03:15:24 AM
Whit this change they were able to reach 5th-6th position in the last GP, imagine how big is not having a wall of hair in the front tires while everyone else got it.
If Miami is the only race they've had this new development, then it seems to have had zero positive effect. Fifth and sixth is not an improvement over any other race this season, most races they've been around there or a bit higher. After the final restart they were losing about a second a lap on the Ferrari and RB, which is in line with the rest of the season. It sounds as though if it gets banned, it won't make their car any worse.
May 13, 2022, 02:43:31 AM
BAD NEWS
After more than a week of being filled with big question marks, rumors that Suzuki will leave MotoGP have finally come true. The Hamamatsu manufacturer has officially ended participation in the Grand Prix world championship.
Thursday (12/5/2022) ahead of the French GP, Suzuki released an official statement. It was revealed that the main reason for the resignation was due to the unfavorable economic situation of the company as a whole.
"Suzuki Motor Corporation is in discussions with Dorna regarding the possibility of terminating its participation in MotoGP at the end of 2022," read a statement.
“Unfortunately, the current economic situation and the need to concentrate efforts on the major changes facing the Automotive world in recent years, forced Suzuki to shift costs and human resources to develop new technologies."
"We would like to express our deepest gratitude to our Suzuki Ecstar Team, to all those who have supported Suzuki motorcycle racing activities over the years and to all the Suzuki fans who have given us enthusiastic support." Source: Motorsport.com / gpzone.id
After more than a week of being filled with big question marks, rumors that Suzuki will leave MotoGP have finally come true. The Hamamatsu manufacturer has officially ended participation in the Grand Prix world championship.
Thursday (12/5/2022) ahead of the French GP, Suzuki released an official statement. It was revealed that the main reason for the resignation was due to the unfavorable economic situation of the company as a whole.
"Suzuki Motor Corporation is in discussions with Dorna regarding the possibility of terminating its participation in MotoGP at the end of 2022," read a statement.
“Unfortunately, the current economic situation and the need to concentrate efforts on the major changes facing the Automotive world in recent years, forced Suzuki to shift costs and human resources to develop new technologies."
"We would like to express our deepest gratitude to our Suzuki Ecstar Team, to all those who have supported Suzuki motorcycle racing activities over the years and to all the Suzuki fans who have given us enthusiastic support." Source: Motorsport.com / gpzone.id
May 12, 2022, 05:12:21 PM
@coinlocket$ so far it’s looks like an smart innovation by Mercedes, and it’s does seem to be working for them and furthermore I don’t think that they’re violating any rule so far, because there doesn’t seem to be any news about them breaking any rules. Lastly I believe that you’re correct because other cars will be keenly observing how it’s working for them, and if it’s successful then they’ll adopt it too.
Yeah, it is a good innovation when it is in the grey area.
It is in the hands of judges, in 2019 Ferrari needed to change the engine because it was against the spirit of the regulation.
This is the same thing, already tagged against the spirit of the regulation (and they already did this year with the flaps on mirrors).
Whit this change they were able to reach 5th-6th position in the last GP, imagine how big is not having a wall of hair in the front tires while everyone else got it.
May 12, 2022, 10:50:10 AM
I've not seen any suggestion that Mercedes have broken the rules, what is the illegal (or grey area) thing that they're doing?
it is difficult to explain without going into the technical but in a nutshell, they have started using flaps where no one is using them to push the air behind the front wheels and greatly reduce the friction of the wheels.
Depending on Sky Italy, they were able to do so because they "interpreted" the regulation in their own way so that the other teams will soon appeal or copy it if considered regular.
Thanks for explaining. I don't think there's much chance of any other teams wanting to copy the Mercedes build at the moment! But I understand the general point. Has it actually helped Merc at all, or is it too early to say? I mean apart from Friday, their performance in Miami was about equally as terrible as it has been at every other race so far this season.
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May 12, 2022, 02:54:24 AM
Di Giannantonio: "Confidence after the Jerez test"
The best result at Le Mans for Bastianini's teammate, Di Giannantonio, was third place in Moto3 2017: a rookie in MotoGP, Fabio aims to raise the bar and find his first points in the top class. The setup he worked on with the team at Jerez could be a great base to start again: "Le Mans is a difficult track, both in terms of temperature and weather. We came from a positive test, we found a good setup. Now it's important to check innovation adopted during the weekend race". Source: skysportmotogp
The best result at Le Mans for Bastianini's teammate, Di Giannantonio, was third place in Moto3 2017: a rookie in MotoGP, Fabio aims to raise the bar and find his first points in the top class. The setup he worked on with the team at Jerez could be a great base to start again: "Le Mans is a difficult track, both in terms of temperature and weather. We came from a positive test, we found a good setup. Now it's important to check innovation adopted during the weekend race". Source: skysportmotogp
May 11, 2022, 06:24:52 PM
The Miami Grand Prix wasn't the best race maybe but at least the last moments of it was great. Thanks to safety car, the competition between some drivers was fired up again and it was great to watch this. I started to believe in Leclerc to take the lead after as he got a good momentum. But Verstappen was so professional that he still didn't lose his place. So far Verstappen won all of the races he completed. This is an amazing statistics. And those races he couldn't finish were Red Bull's fault.
May 11, 2022, 05:41:40 PM
Imagine this, if it were Lewis Hamilton who was driving in that Ferrari what does everybody think can happen? 
It's gonna be a war from the first lap on and it could even happen possibly like at Silverstone last year. Lolol. It was fun to watch while it lasted. 
Anyway so it seems like Red Bull or should I say Newey changed his philosophy for their cars in 2022. He went for a design that's faster in the straights and slower at the corners. It's because the Honda power units are faster than what they had in the past with those Renault engines. So yeah.. Somebody mentioned RBR was faster in the straights, slower at the corners a couple of months back. I said no. But he's right, I'm wrong. Sorry...
That change was a weird one and unexpected one for sure. They have realized that they got Mercedes beaten anyway, so they do not have to focus on alternative because being faster on the straights means a lot more. It's gonna be a war from the first lap on and it could even happen possibly like at Silverstone last year. Lolol. It was fun to watch while it lasted. Anyway so it seems like Red Bull or should I say Newey changed his philosophy for their cars in 2022. He went for a design that's faster in the straights and slower at the corners. It's because the Honda power units are faster than what they had in the past with those Renault engines. So yeah.. Somebody mentioned RBR was faster in the straights, slower at the corners a couple of months back. I said no. But he's right, I'm wrong. Sorry...
If you have the car that is faster on the straights, that will give you instant boost not just while racing but also during overtakes as well (seen at the first corner for example). They had corners faster last year and many years before that because Mercedes got the straight speed covered, they were not getting there, so the best they did was change the style of the car since engine didn't change much, but this year they knew they would be the fastest so went with straight, but I did not see that coming for sure.
May 11, 2022, 10:28:21 AM
Mercedes is hiding they did a thing in the gray area of the regulation
I've not seen any suggestion that Mercedes have broken the rules, what is the illegal (or grey area) thing that they're doing?Max won, and Redbull was stronger overall.
Good results for Mercedes but they are using a grey area of the new rules, if they will be ok others team will copy it.
The track after all was not so bad, overtakes were possibile.
Good results for Mercedes but they are using a grey area of the new rules, if they will be ok others team will copy it.
The track after all was not so bad, overtakes were possibile.
I'm still not sure what you're alluding to. I assume I'm missing something, but I've not seen anything about Mercedes breaking or bending the rules. What is it they're doing?
Anyway, I don't think it was a good result for Merc after the promise they showed on Friday. I'd certainly agree that RB had the strongest package here, and a Max win was almost inevitable... although Leclerc probably needs to get his elbows out a bit and fight even if the other car is faster.
Exactly. Imagine this, if it were Lewis Hamilton who was driving in that Ferrari what does everybody think can happen?
It's gonna be a war from the first lap on and it could even happen possibly like at Silverstone last year. Lolol. It was fun to watch while it lasted. Anyway so it seems like Red Bull or should I say Newey changed his philosophy for their cars in 2022. He went for a design that's faster in the straights and slower at the corners. It's because the Honda power units are faster than what they had in the past with those Renault engines. So yeah.. Somebody mentioned RBR was faster in the straights, slower at the corners a couple of months back. I said no. But he's right, I'm wrong. Sorry...
May 11, 2022, 09:40:49 AM
Suzuki out, Kawasaki and BMW in...
There are so many comments, bro, but unfortunately building a prototype motorbike is not as easy as typing in the comments column. It takes money and a long time, you can see KTM and Aprilia
There are so many comments, bro, but unfortunately building a prototype motorbike is not as easy as typing in the comments column. It takes money and a long time, you can see KTM and Aprilia
Interesting if it does happen, anything is possible. Kawasaki used to be in MotoGP but they came out in 2008 if I wasn't mistaken. It seems that the contract this time is different, because of Dorna's experience from the Kawasaki case. According to the source I read that Dorna currently provides subsidies greater than Tim spends so they assume if the cost issue is unreasonable. So far there has been no official statement from Suzuki, let's wait.
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