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Sunday rain is expected for the race is still early but it can happen.

Rain in Monaco can be fun.
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It is really great to have another race in F1 after only one week. And it is the famous Monaco GP also. Maybe it can be really boring because of not being able watch so many overtakes in a race. But I still enjoy watching street races like this. And I think the Monaco GP is the most special one among those. This is the home Grand Prix for Charles Leclerc at the same time too. On the other hand, he has been really unlucky in the Monaco GP for some time. I hope that he can manage to finish the race this time. If he does, he can be the winner most probably.
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The other teams have not objected so far mainly Redbull and Ferrari which are the leaders as they don't see a threat from Mercedes yet.If Mercedes goes on with the changes which are at the edge of being legal at best and starts winning races you will immediately see objections from Ferrari and Redbull.So far both of them are winning races and are not concerned much with what Mercedes is doing but once Mercedes starts getting in the way because of such upgrades,I am sure we will see at least some objections.
Unless Mercedes has last years Brazil type of change where they are good enough to come from 20th to be the first, then we are not going to see anything challenging from them. It's clear that they "may" win a race or two, and I believe that George will have a win before Hamilton, but it's still not enough to get them to top spot.

Red Bull is soooo far off everyone else that Mercedes would have to have multiple 1-2 finishes to catch them and I am not seeing that at all. Hopefully it will be a season where Ferrari and Red Bull fights, and Red Bull will win but Charles would try to do what Max did last year and win the drivers even though the team loses.

We all hope that Mercedes continues to bring upgrades to the car on top of the existing one as they did last year when in the second half of the Championship they were in another planet,I doubt they will make such a comeback during this season but I sure hope they do bring upgrade after upgrade until they fight to win races and we have three teams contending the race which would be very beautiful for the fans and also for the gamblers as the odds would be higher for all the drivers to win the race.

Compared to a few months ago, Mercedes is moving in the right direction. At the beginning of the season it was nothing at all. It's still not great, but it's on the rise. They won't be able to compete for the world championship this year, maybe the constructors' title at most. But Hamilton is not satisfied with that of course. I don't think Russell is driving any worse than Hamilton at the moment.
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I'm very happy for everyone involved, Vinales and A. Espargaro have signed with Aprilia until the end of 2024.

Aprilia has become competitive in recent years, and Vinales is getting better and better with the bike, A. Espargaro has already proven that he and Aprilia can win.



https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/26/a-espargaro-and-vinales-sign-two-year-aprilia-deals/421817
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The other teams have not objected so far mainly Redbull and Ferrari which are the leaders as they don't see a threat from Mercedes yet.If Mercedes goes on with the changes which are at the edge of being legal at best and starts winning races you will immediately see objections from Ferrari and Redbull.So far both of them are winning races and are not concerned much with what Mercedes is doing but once Mercedes starts getting in the way because of such upgrades,I am sure we will see at least some objections.
Unless Mercedes has last years Brazil type of change where they are good enough to come from 20th to be the first, then we are not going to see anything challenging from them. It's clear that they "may" win a race or two, and I believe that George will have a win before Hamilton, but it's still not enough to get them to top spot.

Red Bull is soooo far off everyone else that Mercedes would have to have multiple 1-2 finishes to catch them and I am not seeing that at all. Hopefully it will be a season where Ferrari and Red Bull fights, and Red Bull will win but Charles would try to do what Max did last year and win the drivers even though the team loses.

We all hope that Mercedes continues to bring upgrades to the car on top of the existing one as they did last year when in the second half of the Championship they were in another planet,I doubt they will make such a comeback during this season but I sure hope they do bring upgrade after upgrade until they fight to win races and we have three teams contending the race which would be very beautiful for the fans and also for the gamblers as the odds would be higher for all the drivers to win the race.
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What about the prediction of MotoGP which will be held this week, precisely at Mugello, Italy?
Because if you look at the statistical data that already exists, including last year, Yamaha holds the record for the most victories at Mugello, Italy, even though it is clear that the Mugello circuit is the home of the Ducati manufacturer, which is also not too far from Mugello.
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Red Bull is soooo far off everyone else that Mercedes would have to have multiple 1-2 finishes to catch them and I am not seeing that at all. Hopefully it will be a season where Ferrari and Red Bull fights, and Red Bull will win but Charles would try to do what Max did last year and win the drivers even though the team loses.

It would get quite interesting though if Mercedes improved so they were fighting with RB, and Ferrari also improved slightly so they were on a par with RB rather than just behind. That could mean that on certain tracks Merc and Ferrari take the top four spots, with Verstappen only fifth (10 points), with the team's designated junior driver Perez in sixth. If Mercedes improve quickly, we still have much of a long season ahead of us, Hamilton or Russell could conceivably close the gap at 15 points a time. Highly unlikely, but possible if Merc do manage to improve significantly on top of their latest improvement, and do so within the next few races.
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Grand Prix of Finland postponed to 2023
Homologation works, together with the risks caused by the ongoing geopolitical situation in the region, means the Finnish GP is postponed
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The FIM, IRTA and Dorna Sports are obliged to announce changes to the 2022 FIM MotoGP™ World Championship calendar.

Homologation works at the KymiRing, together with the risks caused by the ongoing geopolitical situation in the region, have sadly obliged the cancellation of the Finnish Grand Prix in 2022. The current circumstances have created delays and put the ongoing work at the new circuit at risk. All parties have therefore agreed that the track’s debut must be postponed to 2023, when MotoGP™ looks forward to returning to Finland for the first time in four decades.

The final 2022 FIM MotoGP™ World Championship calendar is therefore expected to comprise 20 rounds.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/25/grand-prix-of-finland-postponed-to-2023/421737
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The other teams have not objected so far mainly Redbull and Ferrari which are the leaders as they don't see a threat from Mercedes yet.If Mercedes goes on with the changes which are at the edge of being legal at best and starts winning races you will immediately see objections from Ferrari and Redbull.So far both of them are winning races and are not concerned much with what Mercedes is doing but once Mercedes starts getting in the way because of such upgrades,I am sure we will see at least some objections.
Unless Mercedes has last years Brazil type of change where they are good enough to come from 20th to be the first, then we are not going to see anything challenging from them. It's clear that they "may" win a race or two, and I believe that George will have a win before Hamilton, but it's still not enough to get them to top spot.

Red Bull is soooo far off everyone else that Mercedes would have to have multiple 1-2 finishes to catch them and I am not seeing that at all. Hopefully it will be a season where Ferrari and Red Bull fights, and Red Bull will win but Charles would try to do what Max did last year and win the drivers even though the team loses.
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Good recovery by Mercedes with the not so legal car Grin

Why do you think the Mercedes is not legal? I haven't heard or noticed... If the Mercedes wasn't legal, wouldn't the other teams have already objected?

I only heard that Mercedes has improved the porposing on the straight and is now only a bit present in the corners.

I've not heard it either, and coinlocket$ had to explain it to me a few pages ago. I'm not convinced it's illegal, and AFAIK no-one has complained... if the source is Sky Italy, maybe it's just some wishful thinking on the part of Ferrari?

I've not seen any suggestion that Mercedes have broken the rules, what is the illegal (or grey area) thing that they're doing?

it is difficult to explain without going into the technical but in a nutshell, they have started using flaps where no one is using them to push the air behind the front wheels and greatly reduce the friction of the wheels.
Depending on Sky Italy, they were able to do so because they "interpreted" the regulation in their own way so that the other teams will soon appeal or copy it if considered regular.






Merc do seem to have improved their porpoising, yes. I ran a Google trend search, and the porposing does seem much reduced recently. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Seriously though, yes, they've made progress addressing this fundamental issue, and now believe they can proceed to unlock some of the potential of what everyone thinks is a fast car.

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Verstappen reported on the board radio that his DRS did not open. I do notice that he still won the race after that. He seemed extremely frustrated in his battle with Russell. Good that the team brought him in then, he won the race there. Next weekend we will continue racing and the enthusiasts won't have to wait long. Verstappen is in a very good flow now by the way.
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Verstappen had problems with his DRS tho.  His last lap at quali could'v been P1 or he could've made it close at the race.

Oh and here's a fun fact...  Leclerc has never finished a race in Monaco.  Dun dun duuun.  Grin

RedBull also tested new components for the DRS system and both cars ran with different versions. Perez used the old system and Verstappen the new DRS. However, the new DRS caused problems and didn't work as intended. Perhaps too much weight was saved on the new system and it didn't work as expected?

Even if Marko denies that different versions were used.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-277256-formel-1-max-verstappen-drs-problem-verzettelte-sich-red-bull-mit-upgrade-helmut-marko-barcelona-spanien-gp/
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@tokeweed, that meme about camera guy, good one Cheesy Why he did it?



No idea but aa Hamilton went to pit for fresh tires when the tires were slapped on and bolted, the camera guy was like spinning the camera one time like he has in the tire when Hamilton rolled away.  Lolol.  Then like just a minute later I saw the meme at formuladank subbreddit and lauged cos I didn't think anybody else noticed.  Cheesy  But yeah..  I'll be posting memes itt starting next weekend esp when there are lull moments during the race.  Lots of good stuff at formuladank.

As predicted after the Ferrari's problem Max got an easy win.
Without the problem, it could be an easy win for Charles.
Verstappen now leads the leaderboard but it will be a tight fight.
Good recovery by Mercedes with the not so legal car Grin

Verstappen had problems with his DRS tho.  His last lap at quali could'v been P1 or he could've made it close at the race.

Oh and here's a fun fact...  Leclerc has never finished a race in Monaco.  Dun dun duuun.  Grin
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Good recovery by Mercedes with the not so legal car Grin

Why do you think the Mercedes is not legal? I haven't heard or noticed... If the Mercedes wasn't legal, wouldn't the other teams have already objected?

I only heard that Mercedes has improved the porposing on the straight and is now only a bit present in the corners.

The other teams have not objected so far mainly Redbull and Ferrari which are the leaders as they don't see a threat from Mercedes yet.If Mercedes goes on with the changes which are at the edge of being legal at best and starts winning races you will immediately see objections from Ferrari and Redbull.So far both of them are winning races and are not concerned much with what Mercedes is doing but once Mercedes starts getting in the way because of such upgrades,I am sure we will see at least some objections.
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Good recovery by Mercedes with the not so legal car Grin

Why do you think the Mercedes is not legal? I haven't heard or noticed... If the Mercedes wasn't legal, wouldn't the other teams have already objected?

I only heard that Mercedes has improved the porposing on the straight and is now only a bit present in the corners.
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The slump in the performance of Honda and Marquez this season has been seen by many people and has also raised several questions for Marquez at this time after 7 races that have taken place and here are Marquez's answers to such questions;

"When asked if he would leave Honda, Marc replied emphatically that he would not leave Honda
According to him, in MotoGP now there is no longer a definition of an ideal motorbike (all motorbikes are the same). It all depends on the driving style of the racer on the bike.
And Marquez chose to do that bro, rather than leaving for another team
". Source: gpcornercom
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Well the racing gods take it, and the racing gods give it. Charles won 2 races without much competition when Max stopped, he could have won those races anyway, but it was definitely great for him that Max couldn't finish those two races. And now the same happened to him.

This is racing and sometimes something happens to your car, specially in years when there are big changes like these, cars are made in a way where everyone is trying to find the optimum fastest possible car. So when reliability becomes an issue, they check it but you need to race with it in order to find what could go wrong. Max is leading and Red Bull is leading very easily ahead of everyone. I guessed as much.
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This race Leclerc had the misfortune of an (albeit unexpected) unreliable car. The drive damage to the Ferrari is unexpected, but it happens and can happen. Now RedBull has the advantage again, but as we have seen, this can change quickly this season and Mercedes has made progress with the updates.
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Moto2, Mugello: Pasini wild card with the GASGAS Aspar team.

The anticipation for the Mugello weekend is growing and for Italy there is a welcome return in Moto2 also Mattia Pasini will be back on track, who will line up on the grid as a wild card with the GASGAS Aspar team. The Italian GP is live on Sky Sport MotoGP and streaming on now, the times of the races scheduled for Sunday: Moto3 at 11, Moto2 at 12.20, MotoGP at 14 local time. (source: skysportmotogp)
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Interesting race in Barcelona, rare thing, but it happened today. Leclerc had everything in his hands to win race, but nobody isn't protected from engine problems. Well, now he will have chance to finally win in Monaco. It's impressive that Verstappen managed to win after mistake and all issues with DRS. I don't undersand all this noise about team orders. Max was much faster with fresh tyres and without letting him to pass, it was question of few laps until he would overtake Checo.
I don't recognize Hamilton - asking team to save engine. Good that team didn't listen to him and he was able to achieve solid result
And poor Sainz, such difficult first part of season for him.

@tokeweed, that meme about camera guy, good one Cheesy Why he did it?

I think we all hate Monaco, once qualifying is done the race is simply a dull procession. I've said it before, if F1 want to try something different (as they are with sprint races), then Monaco would be the ideal place to it. They could forget about having the 'race' entirely, and just have something like a series of cycling-style time trials. Or just anything more innovative. Any suggestion at all would probably be better than the 'race'. What do you all think? How could they change Monaco to make it better?
I think it's impossible to make Monaco interesting, it simply doesn't fits for current cars. Maybe time trials is interesting idea, but I can't race weekend without actual race.
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