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This is the temporary standings update after the race in Argentina this year and from the number of points that have been seen in all the drivers so far, it is clear that the difference between each rider is not that far from leading the standings to the bottom so that the potential for each other Overtaking in the standings is also still very open to all riders because the distance between each point is very close.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 04, 2022, 01:06:00 AM

I am really happy for this team,they have been in every class here and they have been working hard all the time yet they missed this win in the upper class.I don't know if this win was because of the track or because Aprilia really had the upper hand but what is important is that they have shown that they could win even in the Moto GP and this is great news for all the fans.Now that many big riders are not riding anymore this can make the Championship better to watch if Aprilia can win other races making it a contender against Honda,Yamaha and Ducati teams.

If you look at the character of the Argentine circuit, it is actually more suitable for Honda manufacturers, but because the Honda racers themselves do not have more potential and even riders like Pol Espargaro also crash during the race so that no other Honda manufacturer is seen even though there are two Honda satellite teams that work together. performance is still very low now.

But for the Aprilia factory, I see that the top speed is able to penetrate up to 336KM/H when overtaking Jorge Martin on the straight, so it is certain that this is the potential of the Aprilia motorbike which has improved greatly, not because of the circuit.

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Quote from: Davian144 on April 04, 2022, 12:28:14 AM

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Aleix Espargaro has already got his first victory during his career in MotoGP and it is recorded that after 200 starts, he was only able to win a race with an Aprilia factory motorbike.
But what is very unique is, when he gets the Pole Position and wins for the first time, he can immediately lead the current MotoGP standings.
If the Aprilia manufacturers are able to win and compete in front, then this year the competition has become increasingly difficult and fierce for all riders to win the world championship title.

I am really happy for this team,they have been in every class here and they have been working hard all the time yet they missed this win in the upper class.I don't know if this win was because of the track or because Aprilia really had the upper hand but what is important is that they have shown that they could win even in the Moto GP and this is great news for all the fans.Now that many big riders are not riding anymore this can make the Championship better to watch if Aprilia can win other races making it a contender against Honda,Yamaha and Ducati teams.

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Aleix Espargaro has already got his first victory during his career in MotoGP and it is recorded that after 200 starts, he was only able to win a race with an Aprilia factory motorbike.
But what is very unique is, when he gets the Pole Position and wins for the first time, he can immediately lead the current MotoGP standings.
If the Aprilia manufacturers are able to win and compete in front, then this year the competition has become increasingly difficult and fierce for all riders to win the world championship title.

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It is the only move they can do.
He is stull under Redbull wings but his contract will expire.

I think they only move they can do is to bring him back to the main team otherwise Gasly will be a Mercedes driver after Hamilton retirement.

Mercedes have had their eyes on the AlphaTauri driver for a while, but his contract doesn't expire until 2023 and it's still unclear what Lewis Hamilton's plans will be for 2023 and whether George Russell will live up to expectations.

What I do know is that Marcedes is having issues with their W13 and this should not be a good season for them, so I would patiently wait for the end of this season before jumping to conclusions.

Gasly has been loyal to the Red Bull family for a long time, but the 25-year-old Frenchman has always been very outspoken about his expectations, and it's clear he's looking for more recognition from Red Bull and feels he's ready for a second chance in the car as he side of Verstappen.

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It looks like the Australian Grand Prix hours will be a little problematic for me. Grin

But I'm definitely going to watch qualifying and race. And so far in the season, we watched a great competition between Leclerc and Verstappen in the first two races. This has already given a great signal to us that the championship race is likely to be between Leclerc and Verstappen for this season. But it is still early of course. F1 is a sport that everything can change in a small period of time.

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Quote from: barbara44 on April 03, 2022, 12:55:31 AM

Getting Gasly could be a decent move, he is not a bad racer at all but I do not know if I want to see Perez gone neither, because he is a great racer as well. That is a tough situation to be in for Red Bull. I mean if you get Gasly, you will get a great driver who knows how to qualify high and be great at attacking and overtaking, if you keep Perez we all know what kind of defense he has and how he could be a pure helper for Max at the same time.

It is really a very difficult situation to be in for them for sure. I would keep Perez for the time being, if they still have a contract with Gasly, then get him 2 years later instead of one year later. This way Gasly could come at 28 and serve for 4 years, whereas Perez will be 34 by that time.

It is the only move they can do.
He is stull under Redbull wings but his contract will expire.

I think they only move they can do is to bring him back to the main team otherwise Gasly will be a Mercedes driver after Hamilton retirement.

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Quote from: barbara44 on April 03, 2022, 12:55:31 AM

Getting Gasly could be a decent move, he is not a bad racer at all but I do not know if I want to see Perez gone neither, because he is a great racer as well. That is a tough situation to be in for Red Bull. I mean if you get Gasly, you will get a great driver who knows how to qualify high and be great at attacking and overtaking, if you keep Perez we all know what kind of defense he has and how he could be a pure helper for Max at the same time.

It is really a very difficult situation to be in for them for sure. I would keep Perez for the time being, if they still have a contract with Gasly, then get him 2 years later instead of one year later. This way Gasly could come at 28 and serve for 4 years, whereas Perez will be 34 by that time.

I agree that Gasly is not at an age where you can say "let him grow a bit there" because he is 26 if I am not wrong, 27 next season and 28 after that, which is getting quite older. However Perez was around that age when he came right? 30 or something? Which means that Red Bull is not really looking for a long term partner that would go for many years, they are looking for whoever would be the best for Max and that's it.

I believe that it is like a Hamilton with whoever situation Mercedes had for many years. This means they can keep Perez, because Perez is the ultime team player, pre Bottas style racer that aims to just help the team without creating drama to win something.

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I was just checking the starting grid for the MotoGP race today at 8 PM Central European time and I saw that a lot of the good drivers are not participating,I don't know many of these guys and I am going to watch the race just to compare between these guys and old riders like Rossi,Lorenzo and Dovizioso.

I think the MotoGP is not the same without them but let's watch this race to see if I am right or wrong.I missed a lot of news of these guys most likely Lorenzo which quit for good and Dovizioso losing his place as the main rider at Ducati.Good news is that most probably Marquez will be back after the infamous crash of Indonesian GP.

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Aleix Espargaro, who successfully scored the Pole Position in qualifying for the Argentine Grand Prix this time, was still unable to break Marc Marquez's lap record, which was also scored at the Argentine Grand Prix, to be precise at the Termas De Rio Hondo circuit.
However, if you look at the time recorded by Aleix Espargaro this year, especially at the Termas De Rio Hondo circuit, the difference is very thin and almost the same.
Marc Marquez (1'37.683)
Aleix Espargaro (1'37,688) this year.

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Getting Gasly could be a decent move, he is not a bad racer at all but I do not know if I want to see Perez gone neither, because he is a great racer as well. That is a tough situation to be in for Red Bull. I mean if you get Gasly, you will get a great driver who knows how to qualify high and be great at attacking and overtaking, if you keep Perez we all know what kind of defense he has and how he could be a pure helper for Max at the same time.

It is really a very difficult situation to be in for them for sure. I would keep Perez for the time being, if they still have a contract with Gasly, then get him 2 years later instead of one year later. This way Gasly could come at 28 and serve for 4 years, whereas Perez will be 34 by that time.

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The Starting Grid for the Argentina MotoGP Race and I didn't even think that Aleix Espargaro could get a Pole Position there with his Aprilia motorbike this year, and another thing that impressed me was Luca Marini who also filled the Front Row at the Argentine Grand Prix this time so that this It also surprises me at this point because he's not often on the Front Row at Starting.
What is the opinion of friends here about this ?

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Redbull opened to the possibility to change Perez with Gasly for the next year.

Gasly is still a Redbull driver and his contract will expire the next year.

Source: https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-piloti/marko-gasly-red-bull-perez-2023-611114.html

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 29, 2022, 07:46:12 AM

Rossi has not left MotoGP and will be a part of it for a long time. Just in a different function, team boss. There are so many talents from our own #46 academy that all can cheer for it, like Bagnaia for example. I don't see a problem with that, but the yellow Rossi caps will definitely be around for years, but I also see at this no problem.

For that matter, I personally also strongly agree because it is clear that Rossi is the boss of his own team and Rossi himself can also get Wilcard during the race in Italy later with his own team.
But so far I personally have not browsed the news about it.

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It's official, Marc Marquez will pass the next Grand Prix in Argentina.

https://www.skysportaustria.at/marc-marquez-muss-fuer-motogp-in-argentinien-passen/

As for the issue of Marc Marquez, I think it is very clear that he will be replaced by Stefan Bradl in the Argentina series later and it is also uncertain whether Marc Marquez will return to racing in Austin Texas.

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Ahead of the Argentine MotoGP, Franco Morbidelli revealed a number of factors that made it difficult for him on the motorbike.
Morbidelli still hasn't "fused" properly with the bike. As is known, before joining the factory team towards the end of the 2021 season, Morbidelli used to ride the Yamaha YZR-M1 Spec A.

After a long injury that missed five races in MotoGP last season, Morbidelli no longer relied on the M1 Spec A based on the 2019 motorbike but went straight to the factory-spec Yamaha M1. Not to mention understanding the character of his new bike in the last five races of MotoGP 2021, Morbidelli faced a similar situation at the start of this season.

"Like I said, I don't have enough experience with the bike (latest version of the M1) and the team. I say this because I look at Quartararo's working method and the calculations with the team if you make some changes to the Yamaha," he said.

"This is a very significant aspect in the evolution of the bike (Quartararo). I really want to get to work and think technically like him as soon as possible.” ^{Source : Motorsport.com / breaking_news_motogp.id}

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Nakagami has been declared Fit after the Covid-19 test again and will participate in Race Argentina this time as usual, and hopefully he can continue to improve without any other obstacles because Honda itself is being hit by a disaster with Marquez's absence at the Argentine Grand Prix this time so that they hope other Honda riders can be more consistent in the race later. And hopefully today the weather can be very good in Argentina.

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Quote from: karabiber on April 01, 2022, 03:58:25 PM

Toprak Razgatlioglu managed to win the 2021 World Superbike Championship. Toprak has a contract with Yamaha until the end of 2023. Toprak says he will move on to the MotoGP World Championship if he joins the factory team. For this, Quartararo's deal should not be extended. Toprak is a very talented person and Quartararo may not be signed for this.

In terms of talent, I think Fabio Quartararo is more dominant because he came from Moto3, Moto2 and then to MotoGP with a contract in the satellite team and was able to become Rookie Of The Year at that time before being signed by the Yamaha factory.

Now for Toprak Razgatlioglu who is in WSBK now, I think it will be more difficult when he moves to MotoGP even though he was a WSBK world champion last season with Yamaha, but considering that in the past there were several WSBK riders who moved to MotoGP, they did not experience an increase in performance as expected by the team, then this can also happen to Toprak Razgatlioglu if he moves to MotoGP even though each rider has a different way of driving and a different character in racing.

And the goal of the Yamaha factory itself is to keep Fabio Quartararo for the next few seasons, but if this doesn't work for Yamaha, then instead it is to bring Toprak Razgatlioglu to MotoGP instead.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 31, 2022, 06:11:58 PM

Well, currently we already have 23 races in calendar and according to current contract it can't exceed 24 races. So, some talks already started about removing one of current tracks from calendar:
https://the-race.com/formula-1/which-gps-are-at-risk-as-vegas-forces-f1-calendar-rotation/
Monaco, Spa and Paul Ricard is at risk to be removed. Ok, I wouldn't miss French GP, I don't see removal of Monaco very likely, despite that's impossible to race there. But if they will remove Spa because of this track, I will be mad.
BTW, Las Vegas GP race will be on Saturday, 10 PM local time. I think it means that race will be 7 AM on Sunday in most of Europe Shocked

I hope they remove Monaco but I think it can't be removed due to the money involved.

It is the worse GP of all of them all but one of the richiest.

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It is going to be really interesting to have another street Grand Prix in the calendar next season. The street ones are not that bad to watch but I don't like them as much as the other ones. Because it becomes harder to see many overtakes in a race especially if the track is too narrow. Monaco GP can be given as the best example to it I assume. But we will see what the Las Vegas GP will bring us then. By the way, the reactions to this news by drivers were so fake. Grin

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Toprak Razgatlioglu managed to win the 2021 World Superbike Championship. Toprak has a contract with Yamaha until the end of 2023. Toprak says he will move on to the MotoGP World Championship if he joins the factory team. For this, Quartararo's deal should not be extended. Toprak is a very talented person and Quartararo may not be signed for this.

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