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Aleix Espargaro's victory at the Argentine Grand Prix is very important for Aprilia's image in MotoGP. Now rivals are aware that the Noale manufacturer does indeed have the potential to be a serious threat.

In the eyes of Maverick Vinales, the weekend at the Autodromo Termas de Rio Hondo is very important for Aprilia Racing because it is the moment where they need to emphasize their progress this season.

For the ex-Yamaha rider, the Argentine Grand Prix is also vital in order to continue the good feeling with the team, which was discovered during the warm-up session for the Indonesian GP at the Mandalika Circuit.

Modifications in the set-up in an attempt to gain stability at the front end of the RS-GP should be confirmed in other scenarios so that the development of the bike and racer continues. They did it from the very first moment in Argentina.

Source: Motorsport.com & gpnetindonesia
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Exactly, that's why there's still room for these guys to get a little more faster, esp Red Bull.  As is I think Ferrari has the quickest package.  So Red Bull has to figure out how to get rid of the extra weight.  As for Mercedes, it's the porpoising.  If they solve that problem then they will def by a problem for Ferrari and Red Bull.  Grin  I'm all for it.  Would be nice to see three teams battling it out for the most points per race instead of two.

Winner market for the Australian GP has Verstappen as the slight favorite at 2.25 and Leclerc at 2.50.  Quali lines are pretty close between both too, 2.25 and 2.35.

If they will resolve it I think they will be the car to beat and I'm not joking.
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Seeing the brilliant performance of the RS-GP, plus the impressive performance of Espargaro, Aprilia clearly has great potential to get back on the podium or win the race.

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The strong potential this season is in Ducati, Aprilia, Suzuki, the development of their bike is so good. It seems that the adjustment of the rider to the bike has no great effect. The drivers already have the expertise of the lower race classes. So I see the quality of the bike is very influential in the MotoGP class. In addition, maybe this year's race will also be more interesting, maybe there will be many different champions in each series.
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Anyway there are some people saying that Red Bull and Mercedes' cars are 5 kg heavier than the Ferrari cars and 10 kg heaviier than the McLaren cars.  I'm not sure how true but that looks like a huge difference.

Mercedes and Redbull are actually complaining about the weight of the cars and they are considering removing the paint for earning a weight loss.

Exactly, that's why there's still room for these guys to get a little more faster, esp Red Bull.  As is I think Ferrari has the quickest package.  So Red Bull has to figure out how to get rid of the extra weight.  As for Mercedes, it's the porpoising.  If they solve that problem then they will def by a problem for Ferrari and Red Bull.  Grin  I'm all for it.  Would be nice to see three teams battling it out for the most points per race instead of two.

Winner market for the Australian GP has Verstappen as the slight favorite at 2.25 and Leclerc at 2.50.  Quali lines are pretty close between both too, 2.25 and 2.35.
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Anyway there are some people saying that Red Bull and Mercedes' cars are 5 kg heavier than the Ferrari cars and 10 kg heaviier than the McLaren cars.  I'm not sure how true but that looks like a huge difference.

Mercedes and Redbull are actually complaining about the weight of the cars and they are considering removing the paint for earning a weight loss.

Mercedes would go back to the roots with paint removal  Cheesy Cheesy, that's how they got the legendary name "Silver Arrows". If nobody knows the story, in 1934 at the Eifel race the racing cars were allowed to have a maximum weight of 750kg and the Mercedes (W25) had 751kg, so Manfred von Brauchitsch had the idea to sand off the paint in order to reach the minimum weight, remember that in former times the paint layers were much thicker.

But because of the sponsors alone, I can't imagine that happening nowadays. Maybe a full body foil would be lighter than the paint?
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Would anyone want to go to Mercedes at the moment? Ferrari and RB would be the teams of choice. I suppose the big question is if at the end of the season the Merc is still not up to speed, then will Hamilton want to try a different car before he retires? I'm sure he'd want to drive a Ferrari at some point if it turns out Sainz is not quite as good as everyone had hoped. But I think the chance of Hamilton at Red Bull is about zero, really can't imagine him in a team with Max, it would be like the Rosberg years again but about 10x worse!
It is not about being in Mercedes and winning titles, it is about trusting the process and the team and the name. If you are driving for Mercedes, which we all know is impossible because it's deadlocked with Hamilton and George, you are getting a good name, that means you must be a good driver, there is no scenario where Mercedes is not a great team, even if they have bad results for a while they have enough power to turn things around eventually.

I still say that Mercedes could still end up champions, we just had 2 races, we should not assume them gone already. I do hope Ferrari wins though, they haven't in a while and it would be awesome to see that happening.


Sure, Mercedes are still good, I'm just saying they're not as much of a draw as RB or Ferrari at the moment.
Yes you're right that we can't right off Merc just yet... but they have a hell of a deficit to recover, it's not like they are just a few seconds slower, it's actually 1 minute+ over the race distance.
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It will be very interesting for the MotoGP Race at the end of this week because considering that Marc Marquez has been able to return to racing and from previous years or in several races that have been held there, on average Marc Marquez always wins, including last year as well. So will this year Marc Marquez be able to win again at the Austin circuit which is Marc Marquez's favorite circuit for a long time?
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What a competitive network! After Aleix's last win in Argentina, we have 1️⃣4️⃣ ##MotoGP race winners on the current 2022 MotoGP grid! #Motorsports #Racing

It will be very interesting and fierce if in the next race there is a new winner again because remembering MotoGP at the end of this week will be in Texas Austin or often called AmericasGP which there is very much dominated by Honda manufacturers and especially Marc Marquez who very often wins there.
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Mercedes can forget about it this year. They're not going to be champions. They have good drivers, but the car is not technically well built. Then they really did something completely wrong in preparation, because Red Bull and Ferrari are really much faster every race. Mercedes of course has the time to make adjustments, but I don't think it will matter that much that they will still participate in the world championship. Lewis was also extremely dissatisfied with the composition of the car and has also expressed his dissatisfaction. It is between Leclerc and Verstappen. The 2 most talented riders too, I think.
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Would anyone want to go to Mercedes at the moment? Ferrari and RB would be the teams of choice. I suppose the big question is if at the end of the season the Merc is still not up to speed, then will Hamilton want to try a different car before he retires? I'm sure he'd want to drive a Ferrari at some point if it turns out Sainz is not quite as good as everyone had hoped. But I think the chance of Hamilton at Red Bull is about zero, really can't imagine him in a team with Max, it would be like the Rosberg years again but about 10x worse!
It is not about being in Mercedes and winning titles, it is about trusting the process and the team and the name. If you are driving for Mercedes, which we all know is impossible because it's deadlocked with Hamilton and George, you are getting a good name, that means you must be a good driver, there is no scenario where Mercedes is not a great team, even if they have bad results for a while they have enough power to turn things around eventually.

I still say that Mercedes could still end up champions, we just had 2 races, we should not assume them gone already. I do hope Ferrari wins though, they haven't in a while and it would be awesome to see that happening.
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Anyway there are some people saying that Red Bull and Mercedes' cars are 5 kg heavier than the Ferrari cars and 10 kg heaviier than the McLaren cars.  I'm not sure how true but that looks like a huge difference.

Mercedes and Redbull are actually complaining about the weight of the cars and they are considering removing the paint for earning a weight loss.
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Redbull opened to the possibility to change Perez with Gasly for the next year.

Gasly is still a Redbull driver and his contract will expire the next year.

Source: https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-piloti/marko-gasly-red-bull-perez-2023-611114.html

Prolly a good idea.  Perez is prolly being paid more than if they got Gasly onboard Red Bull again for a second stint.  zand Perez isn't really that much of a difference compared to Albon and Gasly's performances from what I remember.  But the thing is will Gasly be able to defend like how Perez does in crucial moments? 

Anyway there are some people saying that Red Bull and Mercedes' cars are 5 kg heavier than the Ferrari cars and 10 kg heaviier than the McLaren cars.  I'm not sure how true but that looks like a huge difference.
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Mercedes have had their eyes on the AlphaTauri driver for a while, but his contract doesn't expire until 2023 and it's still unclear what Lewis Hamilton's plans will be for 2023 and whether George Russell will live up to expectations.

What I do know is that Marcedes is having issues with their W13 and this should not be a good season for them, so I would patiently wait for the end of this season before jumping to conclusions.

Gasly has been loyal to the Red Bull family for a long time, but the 25-year-old Frenchman has always been very outspoken about his expectations, and it's clear he's looking for more recognition from Red Bull and feels he's ready for a second chance in the car as he side of Verstappen.
Mercedes has no chance to get him. What could happen is that Mercedes may try, but if Red Bull realizes he will be gone, they will get him, if Mercedes can't get him then they will leave him at Alphatauri and they will goo n like that. I am not saying that he can't go to RB right now, he can do that but that doesn't mean that he has to, and Mercedes offer would make him go to red bull a lot faster.

I still think that veterans would be a lot better for this second driver position but either they have too much of an ego to try that, or they just do not think about it. Perez is way too good to leave him be, but imagine if vettel worked hard to bring Max a championship? That would have been awesome.

Would anyone want to go to Mercedes at the moment? Ferrari and RB would be the teams of choice. I suppose the big question is if at the end of the season the Merc is still not up to speed, then will Hamilton want to try a different car before he retires? I'm sure he'd want to drive a Ferrari at some point if it turns out Sainz is not quite as good as everyone had hoped. But I think the chance of Hamilton at Red Bull is about zero, really can't imagine him in a team with Max, it would be like the Rosberg years again but about 10x worse!
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Aleix Espargaro's historic win at the Argentine Grand Prix added four points to the concession for the Aprilia manufacturer.

Last year, Aprilia got one (1) concession point through Aleix Espargaro's third podium finish in the British MotoGP series at the Silverstone Circuit.

Thanks to Espargaro's victory at Termas de Rio Hondo last weekend, Aprilia has now collected four (4) concession points.

Thus, the manufacturer, based in Noale, Italy, is only slightly away from losing the privilege, namely if it gains two (2) additional points.

Seeing the brilliant performance of the RS-GP, plus the impressive performance of Espargaro, Aprilia clearly has great potential to get back on the podium or win the race.

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Mercedes have had their eyes on the AlphaTauri driver for a while, but his contract doesn't expire until 2023 and it's still unclear what Lewis Hamilton's plans will be for 2023 and whether George Russell will live up to expectations.

What I do know is that Marcedes is having issues with their W13 and this should not be a good season for them, so I would patiently wait for the end of this season before jumping to conclusions.

Gasly has been loyal to the Red Bull family for a long time, but the 25-year-old Frenchman has always been very outspoken about his expectations, and it's clear he's looking for more recognition from Red Bull and feels he's ready for a second chance in the car as he side of Verstappen.
Mercedes has no chance to get him. What could happen is that Mercedes may try, but if Red Bull realizes he will be gone, they will get him, if Mercedes can't get him then they will leave him at Alphatauri and they will goo n like that. I am not saying that he can't go to RB right now, he can do that but that doesn't mean that he has to, and Mercedes offer would make him go to red bull a lot faster.

I still think that veterans would be a lot better for this second driver position but either they have too much of an ego to try that, or they just do not think about it. Perez is way too good to leave him be, but imagine if vettel worked hard to bring Max a championship? That would have been awesome.
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For Honda and Yamaha it will be another difficult season.

This issue was already seen in the qualifying session. I guess that the dominance of the big power motor will happen again. This will continue in the next series. Yamaha was so difficult in this race, Quartararo even dropped down the rankings from the starting position. So strong is the dominance of Ducati, Suzuki, and Aprilla. It looks like they have been playing from the previous season, so earlier this season they were convincing enough to be able to compete.

I don't think it's just Honda's engine power, Honda has had problems for several years and Marc Marquez is always out of shape. With Yamaha I see more of a problem in the engine power deficit, Yamaha never had the most powerful engine but this year it looks like they haven't made any progress in terms of power and the engines are frozen again except for Aprilia (how much longer).

Honda and Yamaha are bringing up the rear in the manufacturers' championship, has that ever happened before? The season is still long but not a good sign for the perennial winning teams of the last decades.
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I am proud of Aprilia and Aleix Espargaro, they both won their first MotoGP Grand Prix, Aleix Espargaro has never won a Grand Prix before. Strong performance from Aprilia, also their engine is very strong, not many manufacturers can overtake Ducati on the straight, very balanced and exciting season this year, where almost every manufacturer can win.
Many people are proud of Aleix Espargaro who still wants to stay with the Aprilia factory until he finds his first victory since his career in MotoGP, this is really touching and I was also surprised to see Aprilia able to overtake Ducati on the straight track by using Sleep Stream.

This issue was already seen in the qualifying session. I guess that the dominance of the big power motor will happen again. This will continue in the next series. Yamaha was so difficult in this race, Quartararo even dropped down the rankings from the starting position. So strong is the dominance of Ducati, Suzuki, and Aprilla. It looks like they have been playing from the previous season, so earlier this season they were convincing enough to be able to compete.
There are still many races that will take place this season, so only the more consistent manufacturer will win the title, because from the three races that have been completed it is very clear that Suzuki always finishes consecutively and currently Suzuki has also led the temporary constructors' standings for manufacturers.
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It looks like the Australian Grand Prix hours will be a little problematic for me.  Grin  But I'm definitely going to watch qualifying and race. And so far in the season, we watched a great competition between Leclerc and Verstappen in the first two races. This has already given a great signal to us that the championship race is likely to be between Leclerc and Verstappen for this season. But it is still early of course. F1 is a sport that everything can change in a small period of time.

Organizations held in Australia are not very suitable for European times, unfortunately we experience similar problems every year Cheesy
We are still at the beginning of the season. Leclerc got off to a pretty good start, while Verstappen was able to finish first in the second race, despite not scoring points in the first race. We will watch a good competition, but I do not think that the championship will be competed between only 2 people Smiley
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For Honda and Yamaha it will be another difficult season.

This issue was already seen in the qualifying session. I guess that the dominance of the big power motor will happen again. This will continue in the next series. Yamaha was so difficult in this race, Quartararo even dropped down the rankings from the starting position. So strong is the dominance of Ducati, Suzuki, and Aprilla. It looks like they have been playing from the previous season, so earlier this season they were convincing enough to be able to compete.
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I am proud of Aprilia and Aleix Espargaro, they both won their first MotoGP Grand Prix, Aleix Espargaro has never won a Grand Prix before. Strong performance from Aprilia, also their engine is very strong, not many manufacturers can overtake Ducati on the straight, very balanced and exciting season this year, where almost every manufacturer can win.

For Honda and Yamaha it will be another difficult season.
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