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Don't underestimate Mercedes.

They have some problems, true but when they will figure out how to fix the porposing they will be the Team.

But we are still early and by the end of the season, these cars will probably be at least 1 second faster so the team who will get more "deep learning" will win.

The fact that Haas became a lot better this season shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. For the past 2 seasons (even a bit 2.5 seasons) they have been pouring every single possible money into making the next seasons car even better. This is not really that much shocking considering they realized they couldn't profitably keep on making some money while trying to be at the top, and they never really had a top place for a long.

This is why I believe that there is a good chance that they will be good this season, and if they can have a sustainable good season and another year, then they will be getting more sponsors and get money. If not then they will end up being bad again.

Ferrari performed very well today. And the last training sessions they have also been very good. It's different on Sunday when they race against each other, but Mercedes seems to be having a really hard time. Leclerc is a very nice guy, he will certainly be awarded to compete for the title. LeClerc still favorite to win the race tomorrow? Or Verstappen. Hamilton is a long way off at the moment, but it's only the first race of the season.

ya.ya.yo!

Ferrari driver Charles Leclerc finished first in the qualifying laps of the 2022 Bahrain Grand Prix and won the pole position. Ferrari drivers performed very well in qualifying. Ferrari thus made a very strong start.

Awesome, sorry to all I really underestimated the personal performance. Honda was really weak for me which I didn't expect... but that's how it is and I think it's damn good and unpredictable. Perfect for a world championship.

I honestly don't know what to think about Mercedes. I can't imagine Mercedes being so much behind Ferrari and Redbull. It could also just be tactics today, and they'll be great tomorrow with Hamilton and WIlliams. It was to be expected that Verstappen would be good, but I didn't think Ferrari would be this good. It's nice that there are now several drivers and several teams that are closer to each other. In previous years it was a battle between Mercedes and Red Bull, that will be different this season.

ya.ya.yo!

I wasn't a long way off, either.


I don't think qualifying revealed any surprises, everyone is about where we thought they would be. Maybe I'm a bit surprised at Bottas being so high, but nothing really other than that.
So we've seen the raw pace that the cars have, the questions for tomorrow are what's overtaking and close following like, is it easier as intended? Will tyre deg be improved - I think early indications from the drivers are it's not as good as hoped. And then finally, will there be any reliability issues?

Mercedes looks like it is out of the fight for winning races at least until Monaco I would predict,sure they told Lewis Hamilton that we got a lot of pace to recoup during the initial phase of the F1 season but I think they are quite slow compared to Ferrari and Redbull and George Russell it is even more than 1 second slower.I can't wait for tomorrow race which I predict Redbull will win based on their experience in the latest years and Ferrari has screw up several times the strategy since the time Vettel was with them fighting for the title so it would be interesting to see the race tomorrow.

That was the first time that i was really looking forward to the beginning of the new Formula 1 season since probably at least 10 years or so after the exciting fight for the championship last year. I think that this season can be even more exciting and even more close than the last one was as we have seen some surprising performances already today. Ferrari looked really strong even in the first training back in Madrid but back then everyone was still expecting that the top teams Red Bull and Mercedes were just bluffing and that they could easily keep up with Ferrari if they would have wanted to. Seems like that wasn't really the case. Red Bull is pretty close to Ferrari but Mercedes is already a few tenths of a second behind.

Indeed, Ferrari is proving that it invested heavily in improvements to its car, it wasn't just rumors and anxiety.
It's great to have a "red leader" in F1 again, now let's see if Leclerc can handle the pressure and maintain that position until the end of tomorrow's race.

On the other hand, I expected a better result from mercedes, at least third position for us to see a good fight

Source: https://sport.sky.it/formula-1/2022/03/19/formula-1-diretta-qualifiche-pole-gp-bahrain-sakhir-2022


I got the prediction correctly  

What about Hass and Alfa? New Ferrari's engine has a lot of power

^  Yup the first 5 races should prolly show which teams are at which places mostly they are on the grid for the rest of the season.  But for this qualifying I feel like it's Verstappen's to lose.  I'd laugh my ass off if the Mercs are really sand bagging.  Can't wait!  Just 30 mins more to go!

Edit:  Just at Q1.  This is looking to be one of the most exciting qualifying sessions imo...

Edit:  Wooow.  Interesting...

And check out Bottas. 

2022 F1 Bahrain GP Qualifying Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m31.471s   1m30.932s   1m30.558s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m31.785s   1m30.757s   1m30.681s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m31.567s   1m30.787s   1m30.687s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.311s   1m31.008s   1m30.921s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.285s   1m31.048s   1m31.238s
6   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m31.919s   1m31.717s   1m31.560s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m31.955s   1m31.461s   1m31.808s
8   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m32.346s   1m31.621s   1m32.195s
9   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.269s   1m31.252s   1m32.216s
10   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m32.096s   1m31.635s   1m32.338s
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m32.041s   1m31.782s   
12   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m32.380s   1m31.998s   
13   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.239s   1m32.008s   
14   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m32.726s   1m32.664s   
15   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m32.493s   1m33.543s   
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m32.750s       
17   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m32.777s       
18   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.945s       
19   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.032s       
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m33.634s   

The top 3 teams seem to be closet than expected.

Ferrari is still rumored to be not on full power, probably RBR too. Mercedes was probably higher.

I'm really looking forward to watching the qualifying session now. I watched the FP3 as well and Verstappen - Leclerc duo were the most impressive drivers again. Verstappen seems to be the number one contender for the pole position currently. But we can watch a fierce fight between him and Leclerc. Hamilton still seems to be slower than his teammate Russell. It doesn't seem like he will be successful in the qualifying but I wouldn't like to be prejudiced too. Let's be patient and see how it goes.

Everyone has seen the MotoGP Qualifier at the Mandalika circuit today and a lot of interesting things happened today at the Mandalika Circuit which led me to make a special prediction about Quartararo who will win tomorrow's race if he doesn't crash.
What about everyone's predictions here ? is there a different prediction with me ?

^  Yeah good fun bet on Sainz.  I have 'Mr. Saturday' George Russell meself.  Lol.  I kinda regret betting on it now...  I had him at 10, he was around 17 after FP2.  But he looks promising after FP3.  Still Verstappen tho...  And Leclerc it looks like.

What's interesting at FP3 is Mick Schumacher was the fastest in the middle sector.  Some some potential there from a betting perspective with the Haas.  And Stroll at top 10.  I wonder what Vettel would've done if he didn't get sick of the rona. 

Anyway...  FP3 results!

2022 F1 Bahrain GP FP3 Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m32.544s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.640s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m32.791s
4   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.935s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m33.053s
6   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m33.121s
7   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m33.437s
8   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.733s
9   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m33.880s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.920s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m33.955s
12   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.971s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m34.176s
14   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m34.295s
15   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m34.378s
16   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.628s
17   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m34.868s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m34.957s
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m35.667s
20   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   No Time Set

I did go ahead and bet on Sainz to both be on Pole today and the winner of the race tomorrow.Maybe Redbull were also making some saving but I doubt they were saving as much as Ferrari.I don't think that today will be our answer because today is based on a single lap and any driver can make errors by trying to make the fastest lap so the true answer I think we will get tomorrow during the race in which we will see the pace of the cars for many laps but I believe a glimpse of tomorrow we can already see it today.

After a wild day of qualifying the stage is set 🙌 With a late penalty for Franco Morbidelli, this is how the riders will line up tomorrow for the first #IndonesianGP 🇮🇩 in 25 years 🔥 #MotoGP
Source: motogp

I was very surprised when I saw the Mandalika MotoGP qualifying today where a lot of riders fell, including Marquez himself, fell twice today and once yesterday.
And congrats to Fabio Quartararo who has earned the Pole Position this season after struggling in Qualification and FP, because during the race in Qatar a few weeks ago he also suffered a lot with the performance of the bike.

We'll see later if he will keep his promise, because for a helmet racer it is a very important thing to maintain and usually what they use is the world's number 1 original product, so it would be amazing if he could keep his promise and us. see who will get it later after the mandalika race is over.

I hope you also see the results of the Mandalika MotoGP qualifying today where the Yamaha Factory occupies the first position as the Pole Position for tomorrow through Quartararo and also in FP2 the Yamaha factory also dominated the 1st and 2nd place yesterday. This means that the Mandalika circuit is very suitable for the character of Yamaha and Suzuki motorcycles.


Still, Suzuki and Yamaha are still using the engine with the Inline-4 concept where Suzuki is using the Flatplane crankshaft and Yamaha is using the Crossplane crankshaft with the Inline-4 concept, so overall it's not that different even though the Suzuki engine has a bit more power than the Yamaha this season.