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Daniel Ricciardo is positive to COVID.
If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.

He is an elite driver.

So I just heard Vettel got covid too which really sucks for both drivers as they'd be losing crucial time and with knowing the quirks of these new cars and how to adjust.

Here are the lines for the race...

https://stake.com/sports/outright/formula-1/formula-1/formula-1-2022/42416559-bahrain-grand-prix-2022-race

And here are the lines for quali.

https://stake.com/sports/outright/formula-1/formula-1/formula-1-2022/42482282-bahrain-grand-prix-2022-qualification

I think there's a lot of value for 'Mr. Saturday' in quali if you guys know what I'm talking about. Him in potentially the fastest car on the grid is a winnaaar. Lol. 10 bucks win around 100. Not bad imho. I think he'll be no push over like Bottas.

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Quote from: FanEagle on March 16, 2022, 03:54:47 PM

I am super excited to see the F1 season starting this weekend. However, with still nothing known about which car being faster than the other, and which teams figuring out the problems and which ones who haven't, it is going to be hard to wager on the first race. We will obviously see which team will be better after the first race a bit better, but it also doesn't mean that we won't have changes after the first few races.

Even if this bouncing problem exists for most teams, after the first one or two races, we will have all teams figuring out a way to stop that, which will be the real season start. Bahrain will be more like testing 2.0 instead of being a real race if you ask me.

Yes mate, a lot of people who are eagerly looking forward to the start of the new season. I am also very curious, in several ways. Would the engines of Red Bulle and Mercedes be the best again or will Ferrari finally compete for the world title again? It would be nice if we have 3-4 teams that are a serious contender for the championship, and not again the clash between Hamilton and Verstappen, because that gets boring pretty quickly.

@FanEagle my gut feeling tells me that this is the season Ferrari rises and dominates all the other teams, because if they fail to do that then I’m surely going to be disappointed cause they promised a lot for this season. @BitcoinAccepted you’re wrong Hamilton and Verstappen clashes were making F1 interesting last season, and I’m pretty sure their that rivalry is only going to get nasty once the season resumes.

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Quote from: xmonkeyx on March 16, 2022, 12:50:26 AM

each racer has a different racing style, so it must be adapted to the bike, of course, motor power is also needed in order to compete optimally in the front row.

In any race, engine power is needed apart from a racing style that can adapt the rider to a motorbike, because every manufacturer has a motorbike with a different character.

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I saw Yamaha's performance decline this season at the Qatar Opening Race a few weeks ago.
for the next race at the Mandalika circuit it is very difficult to predict who will be in the front row because this is a new circuit.

Mandalika is a new circuit which is a little less worthy to be compared to the Qatar circuit and the Qatar race also cannot be used as a basic reference because almost all the riders at the Qatar Race suffered including Marquez himself as well so he also did not get any podiums there.

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Even so, I still prefer Ducati to be in the front row or compete in the front row because they have very high power.

Many people will indeed choose Ducati this season because the Ducati manufacturer currently uses three engine models on four different teams (three of which are satellite teams)

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on March 16, 2022, 08:45:24 PM

Fabio: "I feel good and ready to start racing in Mandalika again. We did a good job here during the winter tests. We got a lot of work done and finished a lot of laps, so we'll make good use of it"

"I don't want to think about what happened in Qatar, also because I know that we have a good starting point for this weekend. I will focus 100% on getting a good result. Our pace was good here during the tests, but we have a lot of rivals. fast, so every detail and every second counts"

Source : YamahaMotoGP.com & quartararo.id

in the pre-season test at the Mandalika circuit some time ago Yamaha gave the 2nd best time and it proved that this circuit is suitable for Yamaha motorcycles, in the Race which will start this weekend I think Yamaha will be able to rise and compete in the front row especially for their rider Fabio Quartararo who was very down in the first Qatar Race 2 weeks ago.
If you look at the results of the pre-season test at the Mandalika circuit, I predict that at the Race weekend Yamaha will compete closely with Honda in the front row, I leave Ducati because in the pre-season test Ducati did not give a good time at this circuit.

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Some of the marshals on duty at the Mandalika Circuit received training from firefighters (damkar) of Central Lombok Regency, MGPA, as well as instructors from IMI.

Fire fighting training is very necessary in racing, especially when there is an emergency there is a spark that can ignite a fire on the rider's motorbike. This anticipation is also carried out for the Pertamina Grand Prix of Indonesia on March 18-20, 2022 later.

A total of 42 marshals on special duty to extinguish the fire that spread across the track along with 10 people who are on standby in the paddock area.

These marshals are part of a team, consisting of five people who will be assigned to a guard post on the 4.31-kilometer Pertamina Mandalika International Street Circuit track.

The training and simulation focus on the basics of recognizing the type of fire according to the material being burned, the use of APAR (light fire extinguishers), and techniques to extinguish the red rooster.

Source: Motorsport.com and gpzone.id

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Fabio: "I feel good and ready to start racing in Mandalika again. We did a good job here during the winter tests. We got a lot of work done and finished a lot of laps, so we'll make good use of it"

"I don't want to think about what happened in Qatar, also because I know that we have a good starting point for this weekend. I will focus 100% on getting a good result. Our pace was good here during the tests, but we have a lot of rivals. fast, so every detail and every second counts"

Source : YamahaMotoGP.com & quartararo.id

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Quote from: FanEagle on March 16, 2022, 03:54:47 PM

I am super excited to see the F1 season starting this weekend. However, with still nothing known about which car being faster than the other, and which teams figuring out the problems and which ones who haven't, it is going to be hard to wager on the first race. We will obviously see which team will be better after the first race a bit better, but it also doesn't mean that we won't have changes after the first few races.

Even if this bouncing problem exists for most teams, after the first one or two races, we will have all teams figuring out a way to stop that, which will be the real season start. Bahrain will be more like testing 2.0 instead of being a real race if you ask me.

Yes mate, a lot of people who are eagerly looking forward to the start of the new season. I am also very curious, in several ways. Would the engines of Red Bulle and Mercedes be the best again or will Ferrari finally compete for the world title again? It would be nice if we have 3-4 teams that are a serious contender for the championship, and not again the clash between Hamilton and Verstappen, because that gets boring pretty quickly.

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I am super excited to see the F1 season starting this weekend. However, with still nothing known about which car being faster than the other, and which teams figuring out the problems and which ones who haven't, it is going to be hard to wager on the first race. We will obviously see which team will be better after the first race a bit better, but it also doesn't mean that we won't have changes after the first few races.

Even if this bouncing problem exists for most teams, after the first one or two races, we will have all teams figuring out a way to stop that, which will be the real season start. Bahrain will be more like testing 2.0 instead of being a real race if you ask me.

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Quote from: tokeweed on March 15, 2022, 10:47:02 AM

Decent odds for Max Verstappen actually. He's is at 3.00 the last time I looked with Hamilton around 3.45. And yeah that's the thing, we're all guessing here... Even the sports betting sites are guessing here. Cheesy

It's why I think some value could be had before qualifying. And the sportsbetting sites could also be slow in adjusting the lines for the next couple of races if either of the Ferraris win at Bahrain.

Yeah, you might be right. 3.00 is decent for Verstappen. I wouldn't put any money on Hamilton though, I do think some of the Merc problems are genuine and they will be behind Ferrari and Red Bull at least in the first race. And yes, if Max storms through qualifying and takes a dominant pole, those odds would deteriorate significantly. But I'm still not willing to bet yet... a Max win certainly seems possible, but so many other things seem just as possible, too.

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Marc Marquez First time on a new track
The Repsol Honda racer has a good record in the MotoGP class when he first races on a new track
^{Source: https://www.instagram.com/crashnet_motogp/}

So what about the new track in Indonesia this time, guys? Is Marc Marquez able to finish in front as the first because considering the test last month was also won by Marc Marquez's team mate, Pol Espargaro. Huh

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Quote from: blue Snow on March 16, 2022, 12:01:28 AM

Are both (Suzuki and Yamaha) still using the same machine, Inline-4?. when I look at a year ago, Suzuki looks aggressive than Yamaha with the same machine, but for sure it depends on who the racer in. Mir said Yamaha is more than smoother, maybe because Yamaha especially Quartararo choose right tires so that when being around in bend, Yamaha looks smooth with no slip.

Yes the Suzuki and Yamaha have the same engine concept the 4 cylinder inline engine. But it seems that Suzuki has improved the engine a lot in the last two years, last year the engine development was frozen, so the last engine was in use for two years and this year there is a new engine, and all teams except apparently Yamaha have made a step forward, whether the Yamaha is smoother than the Suzuki is hard to say.

Here is a very good comparison between the V-engine and the in-line engine.

https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2017/09/22/inline-4-vs-v4/240281

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Thank you for the warm welcome Indonesia We are so happy to be back here for the GP after 25 years! #IndonesianGP #MotoGP #Parade
Source: https://www.instagram.com/motogp/
Video link: https://www.instagram.com/p/CbJmeVKsIKv/

I am very happy when I see a successful parade today in Jakarta because it can also be a promotional event for all manufacturers even though I didn't see Yamaha in the parade and I also don't understand why Yamaha wasn't there.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on March 16, 2022, 12:08:48 AM

In terms of winning chances, you must always look at a motorbike with great power, but in this case I will also look at each rider with different potential because when a motorbike with high power is ridden by a rider who does not have more potential, then he will also not be able to win.

each racer has a different racing style, so it must be adapted to the bike, of course, motor power is also needed in order to compete optimally in the front row.

I saw Yamaha's performance decline this season at the Qatar Opening Race a few weeks ago.
for the next race at the Mandalika circuit it is very difficult to predict who will be in the front row because this is a new circuit.
Even so, I still prefer Ducati to be in the front row or compete in the front row because they have very high power.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 14, 2022, 08:43:14 AM

Maybe this Mandalika series will be the first time I see a Moto GP race done during the day, with a time difference of 2 hours in my province. Although I won't see it in person, I'm looking forward to this moment. Of course I will feel proud, maybe this is the first time I know MotoGP is done in my country, although if I read there was once a MotoGP event in Indonesia.

The MotoGP event had indeed existed in Indonesia during Doohan's time at the Sentul circuit in 1996 and 1997 where Doohan had won the race there and at that time Valentino Rossi himself was still in the 125cc class (if he now calls it Moto3). So Mandalika this time will be a new series for Indonesia in the world Grand Prix event.

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The chances of a race result are probably me to remain favourites for the bike with great power. The results of the trial conducted by Pol Espargaro became the fastest rider in quartararo. But maybe for the main series it will be very different because the speed of each lap does not necessarily determine the outcome of the race.

In terms of winning chances, you must always look at a motorbike with great power, but in this case I will also look at each rider with different potential because when a motorbike with high power is ridden by a rider who does not have more potential, then he will also not be able to win.

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I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.

The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.
So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.

Everything will come up, but unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has made a step forward with the engine. This was best seen at the last Grand Prix, where Suzuki was able to overtake a Honda from the slipstream on the straight, which would have been almost impossible last year, and almost impossible for Yamaha this year. Suzuki has improved the power of its engines and found something in contrast to Yamaha.

Are both (Suzuki and Yamaha) still using the same machine, Inline-4?. when I look at a year ago, Suzuki looks aggressive than Yamaha with the same machine, but for sure it depends on who the racer in. Mir said Yamaha is more than smoother, maybe because Yamaha especially Quartararo choose right tires so that when being around in bend, Yamaha looks smooth with no slip.

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I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain Cheesy

. Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.

I imagine teams will have all sorts of problems, as these are brand new car designs that haven't been properly tested in a full-speed race situation yet. I'm expecting a few retirements, as there are a few teams who have had reliability issues in the pre-season. We've still yet to see really whether the closer racing is possible or how much of an issue tyre deg will be, too.

But the new season is nearly here now... can't wait!

They do testing in the factories as well and even though it has been said that it is illegal to do more than a certain hour, I guarantee you that Toto and Horner probably have those cars replica versions at their home with an inbuilt testing lol.

I mean it is clear to me that we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars worth teams and there must be some rules broken and testing seems to be one of the main ones. They have proposing problem right now and that requires insane amount of testing to figure out the best possible method and in order to find that, you gotta do a lot of testing. Could be done in a week if they do it illegally and not follow the hours rule.

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looking to bet it on the season opener. I think it's one of the Ferraris who wins the race. LecLerc at 6, Sainz at 9. Hmmm.. I think Carlos Sainz gets it. What do you guys think?

If I had to put a bet on right now, then I'd go with a Ferrari, yes, or maybe Max depending on what the odds are.
But I'm not willing to bet at the moment, as I just don't think we'll have anything like a clear picture until after qualifying. This season is the start of a new era, and there are too many unknowns.
I'd go Ferrari if I had to, but that's largely guessing.

Decent odds for Max Verstappen actually. He's is at 3.00 the last time I looked with Hamilton around 3.45. And yeah that's the thing, we're all guessing here... Even the sports betting sites are guessing here. Cheesy

It's why I think some value could be had before qualifying. And the sportsbetting sites could also be slow in adjusting the lines for the next couple of races if either of the Ferraris win at Bahrain.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 15, 2022, 05:24:19 AM

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I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.

The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.
So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.

Everything will come up, but unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has made a step forward with the engine. This was best seen at the last Grand Prix, where Suzuki was able to overtake a Honda from the slipstream on the straight, which would have been almost impossible last year, and almost impossible for Yamaha this year. Suzuki has improved the power of its engines and found something in contrast to Yamaha.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 15, 2022, 03:43:07 AM

At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.

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My favourite remains on Ducati, Honda or KTM. I'm not too sure about the condition of Yamaha if you look at the qatar series. Indeed the character of the circuit is different but the dominance of motor power will be very profitable here.
Regarding the preparation of asphalt coating, it seems to have been done. That's faster than the target. I don't think any drivers are complaining. The guided stands are also seen finished installation.
Here is one of the appearances of asphalt coating results.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on March 15, 2022, 04:43:33 AM

I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.

The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.
So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.

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