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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 31, 2021, 04:08:55 PM

Well, next year we will have a reset anyone, the next year with the new car will probably win who will find a "grey area" in the regulation like BRAWNGP did back on days.

It may be boring, but I'd back Mercedes to come up with the best design, they've been a long way ahead of the rest for the current era.

They are struggling a bit this year, but that's an anomaly that's been forced on them really, with the way the new rules affect high/low rake cars differently, and with a full rebuild being impossible for the current season, it's hit Mercedes and Pink Mercedes harder than others.

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We are officially in another race week in F1 now. And I'm excited about all of the remaining races as the title race between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen is going on heatedly (Verstappen leads by 12 pts). There is a really big competition between them on the track right now and we can clearly see it in the last race too. Verstappen's being a little more aggressive than Hamilton helps him a lot to win the races. It was the reason why Verstappen kept his lead and won the US GP. Let's see what happens in the next race which is going to be in Mexico.

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Quote from: AakZaki on October 31, 2021, 04:55:30 PM

I hope so, because it will make the race even more interesting even though we will lose the legend no 46 on the circuit. I think Ducati, Honda, Yamaha, will be very competitive.

I also see that but the Logo 46 will still be seen in MotoGP through Valentino Rossi's Team in Moto3, Moto2 and also the satellite team in MotoGP for next year.

Quote from: AakZaki on October 31, 2021, 04:55:30 PM

Glad to hear this news, at least I will get to see beautiful women who are next to cool motorbikes and great racers. This is a bit of a breath of fresh air at least there will be job openings for umbrella girls. Hopefully not only in Europe but in all series there will be umbrella girls again.

This of course makes the enthusiasm of the MotoGP audience even more and also makes the paddock area more crowded and becomes even more exciting when all the drivers are standing on the circuit before starting the race.

Quote from: blue Snow on November 01, 2021, 01:50:47 AM

I don't know that umbrella girl is also available in the Mandalika circuit. Maybe we can see that on World Superbike (WSBK) Indonesia 2021, that surprised me the circuit begins with the world Superbike competition (race 1 - 3) on 19 - 21 Nov. event before, Mandalika circuit will begin race IATC ( Idemitsu Asia Talent Cup) on 12 - 14 Nov.

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It is a very interesting thing to look forward to because the IATC (Idemitsu Asia Talent Cup) racing event and World Superbike (WSBK) in Mandalika will also make the circuit and the parties involved in it more ready to welcome MotoGP. early next year.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 31, 2021, 10:00:40 AM

The Suzuki team are currently 88 points behind second place Yamaha in the manufacturer's championship. Assuming Yamaha earns no points going forward, Suzuki would need to take all three podium places in one of the remaining races to narrow the gap to 30. It's certainly not impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Considering all the talent Ducati has on their bikes, I figure it's a done deal and they'll be champs for the second year in a row.

Suzuki team has failed for this year and have a step to do it again in the next year, but it will go hard because Honda with Marquez has found his performance. Suzuki has also repaired Holeshot and chassis for the next better.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 29, 2021, 08:45:32 PM

Oh yes, there is a bit of good news that along with covid-19 which has started to run out in several countries in Europe, MotoGP will re-implement Paddock Girl at the Algarve series in Portugal next week.
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Glad to hear this news, at least I will get to see beautiful women who are next to cool motorbikes and great racers. This is a bit of a breath of fresh air at least there will be job openings for umbrella girls. Hopefully not only in Europe but in all series there will be umbrella girls again.

I don't know that umbrella girl is also available in the Mandalika circuit. Maybe we can see that on World Superbike (WSBK) Indonesia 2021, that surprised me the circuit begins with the world Superbike competition (race 1 - 3) on 19 - 21 Nov. event before, Mandalika circuit will begin race IATC ( Idemitsu Asia Talent Cup) on 12 - 14 Nov.

https://www.themandalikagp.com

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 29, 2021, 08:45:32 PM

Don't worry mate, Quartararo won't just sink like Joan Mir this season, because Quartararo has a different mentality and Yamaha has confirmed to give Quartararo a better bike next season.

Oh yes, there is a bit of good news that along with covid-19 which has started to run out in several countries in Europe, MotoGP will re-implement Paddock Girl at the Algarve series in Portugal next week.
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I hope so, because it will make the race even more interesting even though we will lose the legend no 46 on the circuit. I think Ducati, Honda, Yamaha, will be very competitive.

Glad to hear this news, at least I will get to see beautiful women who are next to cool motorbikes and great racers. This is a bit of a breath of fresh air at least there will be job openings for umbrella girls. Hopefully not only in Europe but in all series there will be umbrella girls again.

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@coinlocket$ if the Hamilton winning era finally ends it’ll be great for F1, because it’s become boring each year to see him win it, however the season isn’t over yet so we all should be optimistic about Max chances but not overconfident.

Also it’s fine if Perez isn’t competing with Max, because for me personally the need is to see a new champion and till Perez is helping Max get there I’m happy to see him play a supportive role.

Well, next year we will have a reset anyone, the next year with the new car will probably win who will find a "grey area" in the regulation like BRAWNGP did back on days.

Anyway this tight competition is good for the sport but the second drivers are not existing, they are too weak.

Next year yes it will be a new start but I doubt we are in the same lines as in 2009,right now I believe all the teams have done the due search and due diligence before taking the steps to build the new car for 2022.I think maybe Ferrari can be somewhat ahead as they have already tried new packages for the 2022 car since late 2020 and during this season but that is just an assumption.

Hamilton era I doubt it will end soon even if Verstappen wins this 2021 Championship I know the fighting spirit of Hamilton and most probably he will become the first 8 times Champion of F1.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 28, 2021, 10:34:52 PM

@coinlocket$ if the Hamilton winning era finally ends it’ll be great for F1, because it’s become boring each year to see him win it, however the season isn’t over yet so we all should be optimistic about Max chances but not overconfident.

Also it’s fine if Perez isn’t competing with Max, because for me personally the need is to see a new champion and till Perez is helping Max get there I’m happy to see him play a supportive role.

Well, next year we will have a reset anyone, the next year with the new car will probably win who will find a "grey area" in the regulation like BRAWNGP did back on days.

Anyway this tight competition is good for the sport but the second drivers are not existing, they are too weak.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on October 31, 2021, 10:12:03 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 29, 2021, 11:22:18 AM

Perez has not been a very good support for Verstappen or a good second driver at Red Bull. Look at most of his finishes. If he had finshed better at every race RBR should be ahead in the constructor championship or at least make it very close.

Neither Perez nor Bottas has been great. If you have a situation like this season where two teams are quite evenly matched and fighting for the title, it's absolutely crucial that the second driver steps up. Look at the last race, Red Bull had the advantage because Bottas was further down the grid and once the race started, Perez was able to stay near the front two, which gave Red Bull the crucial tactical edge at the pits stops. This is what the second driver should be doing every race. If it's a Merc track, then Bottas should be up there so that they can control Verstappen; if it's a Red Bull track then Perez should do the same to control Hamilton. If it's a neutral track, both Bottas and Perez should be in the mix, giving their team-mate whatever advantage they can.

But in the recent races, Bottas hasn't been doing as good as Perez in my opinion (though he started a bit behind on the grid) Max won the recent few races and a lot of credit goes to Perez for holding off Hamilton or at least trying to do so. On the other hand, Hamilton is not getting the support from Bottas he needs to outperform Red Bull drivers. Last few races he got 2v1'ed by Red Bull.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 29, 2021, 11:22:18 AM

Perez has not been a very good support for Verstappen or a good second driver at Red Bull. Look at most of his finishes. If he had finshed better at every race RBR should be ahead in the constructor championship or at least make it very close.

Neither Perez nor Bottas has been great. If you have a situation like this season where two teams are quite evenly matched and fighting for the title, it's absolutely crucial that the second driver steps up. Look at the last race, Red Bull had the advantage because Bottas was further down the grid and once the race started, Perez was able to stay near the front two, which gave Red Bull the crucial tactical edge at the pits stops. This is what the second driver should be doing every race. If it's a Merc track, then Bottas should be up there so that they can control Verstappen; if it's a Red Bull track then Perez should do the same to control Hamilton. If it's a neutral track, both Bottas and Perez should be in the mix, giving their team-mate whatever advantage they can.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 31, 2021, 02:34:18 AM

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Ducati is still leading the manufacturer's competition, but they're only 12 points ahead of Yamaha.Â There's still a chance for Yamaha to take the lead, and secure both the rider and manufacturer's championship.Â Should be a fun couple of races to finish out the season.

2 races left, the Ducati team are leading in the head after Yamaha. Bagnaia, Zarco, and Miller, If they are got on the podium on the remaining race, Ducati could be the domination on the standing board. but at the moment Joan mir (Suzuki) is in the 3rd position, he got the podium in Aragon, Styria, Assen, Mugello, Algarve, and no.1 on Ricardo Tormo. If he won and got a podium in the 2 last races he will take for 2nd position (Bagnaian). Ducati has to watch him.

The Suzuki team are currently 88 points behind second place Yamaha in the manufacturer's championship. Assuming Yamaha earns no points going forward, Suzuki would need to take all three podium places in one of the remaining races to narrow the gap to 30. It's certainly not impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Considering all the talent Ducati has on their bikes, I figure it's a done deal and they'll be champs for the second year in a row.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 29, 2021, 12:14:19 PM

Ducati is still leading the manufacturer's competition, but they're only 12 points ahead of Yamaha.Â There's still a chance for Yamaha to take the lead, and secure both the rider and manufacturer's championship.Â Should be a fun couple of races to finish out the season.

2 races left, the Ducati team are leading in the head after Yamaha. Bagnaia, Zarco, and Miller, If they are got on the podium on the remaining race, Ducati could be the domination on the standing board. but at the moment Joan mir (Suzuki) is in the 3rd position, he got the podium in Aragon, Styria, Assen, Mugello, Algarve, and no.1 on Ricardo Tormo. If he won and got a podium in the 2 last races he will take for 2nd position (Bagnaian). Ducati has to watch him.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 30, 2021, 11:22:45 AM

I would hate to see Marquez walk away with it next year without any challengers. Pecco Bagnaia is another rider that can make Marc look more like a mere mortal.

Next season Ducati factory will field 8 bikes and this is a nightmare ("said Joan Mir"), and I also see that next season's Ducati riders will always interfere with the front row to get a win as seen in last week's Race where Bastianini who also started the race from 16th and managed to finish in the top three (Podium) so that it makes him more motivated for next year especially he will use the 2021 Ducati Spec motorbike for next year, this is clearly dangerous for anyone.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on October 30, 2021, 11:22:45 AM

Now that's the best news I've heard all year.

Actually there are some more news that will be run next year, but so far I haven't updated because I'm still busy with my routine work.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 29, 2021, 08:45:32 PM

Don't worry mate, Quartararo won't just sink like Joan Mir this season, because Quartararo has a different mentality and Yamaha has confirmed to give Quartararo a better bike next season.

I hope you're right about Quartararo. He struggled the last few races, but this past week he showed his champion qualities by coming up from 17th to finish 4th. It makes for a very boring season when one rider takes a huge lead early on and dominates. I would hate to see Marquez walk away with it next year without any challengers. Pecco Bagnaia is another rider that can make Marc look more like a mere mortal.

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MotoGP will re-implement Paddock Girl at the Algarve series in Portugal next week.
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Now that's the best news I've heard all year.

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Quote from: Apes on October 29, 2021, 09:50:35 PM

yes i also agree Quartararo wont sink next year, as a yamaha rider motogp 2021 his performance were excellent and he make yamaha really different this season. his performance always increase every year if we see his stat thats why make me sure he will compete in top motogp 2022 board.

I've seen how Quartararo in moto3 and moto2 even though he didn't have a champion in that class, but when he entered MotoGP on the Yamaha satellite team from Malaysia sponsored by Petronas, he immediately became the Rookie of the year champion at that time even though he was in his second season in MotoGP. he looks less consistent in the second half of the season, last year to be precise guys

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about the UMBRELLA GIRL hmmm this what we are waiting guys. Grin

There is no need to wait for it because it has happened in previous years except last year.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 29, 2021, 08:45:32 PM

Quote from: AakZaki on October 29, 2021, 12:33:52 PM

Sad for Ducati and happy for Yamaha, yes this is a race with winners and losers. The title has been locked for Yamaha and Quartararo, and leaving only 2 MotoGP series. Next season looks like it will be more difficult for Yamaha, Marquez has started back and maybe he will be fit next season, then from Ducati they are of course a serious threat for next year. I also hope Quartararo doesn't sink like Joan Mir, after winning this year.

Don't worry mate, Quartararo won't just sink like Joan Mir this season, because Quartararo has a different mentality and Yamaha has confirmed to give Quartararo a better bike next season.

Oh yes, there is a bit of good news that along with covid-19 which has started to run out in several countries in Europe, MotoGP will re-implement Paddock Girl at the Algarve series in Portugal next week.
WELCOME BACK UMBRELLA GIRL

yes i also agree Quartararo wont sink next year, as a yamaha rider motogp 2021 his performance were excellent and he make yamaha really different this season. his performance always increase every year if we see his stat thats why make me sure he will compete in top motogp 2022 board.

about the UMBRELLA GIRL hmmm this what we are waiting guys. Grin

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Quote from: AakZaki on October 29, 2021, 12:33:52 PM

Sad for Ducati and happy for Yamaha, yes this is a race with winners and losers. The title has been locked for Yamaha and Quartararo, and leaving only 2 MotoGP series. Next season looks like it will be more difficult for Yamaha, Marquez has started back and maybe he will be fit next season, then from Ducati they are of course a serious threat for next year. I also hope Quartararo doesn't sink like Joan Mir, after winning this year.

Don't worry mate, Quartararo won't just sink like Joan Mir this season, because Quartararo has a different mentality and Yamaha has confirmed to give Quartararo a better bike next season.

Oh yes, there is a bit of good news that along with covid-19 which has started to run out in several countries in Europe, MotoGP will re-implement Paddock Girl at the Algarve series in Portugal next week.
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Quote from: DU18 on October 25, 2021, 02:46:03 PM

~snip~ no other yamaha rider managed to become world champion and of course Fabio Quartararo should be proud of the title because that way he also managed to make Yamaha end its degree fasting this season.

Sad for Ducati and happy for Yamaha, yes this is a race with winners and losers. The title has been locked for Yamaha and Quartararo, and leaving only 2 MotoGP series. Next season looks like it will be more difficult for Yamaha, Marquez has started back and maybe he will be fit next season, then from Ducati they are of course a serious threat for next year. I also hope Quartararo doesn't sink like Joan Mir, after winning this year.

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Quote from: kro55 on October 28, 2021, 09:14:14 AM

^^ @coinlocket$ & @tokeweed, I have mixed feelings about the decisions Mercedes took in regards to pitting. Maybe it was a good idea, maybe it was a bad idea I don't know. But what I can is that Bottas has not been very good in recent times, except for the time he won the race. If you look at Red Bull, they have the perfect pair of drivers. Max pushing for the win while Perez has been very good support for him, holding down Hamilton or whoever comes trailing him. I have to give huge credit to Perez in these recent races as his good form has made it easier for Max to win the races.

To be honest i don't think you give Bottas enough credit here in comparison to Perez. I think that Bottas was extremely unlucky this whole season so far and still managed to win a race and achieve some nice results. Just look at the grand prix of monaco for example he was close to getting the pole their but then he had to cancel his last lap because of an accident and then in the race he was also on the track of winning this most prestigious grand prix of all and then somehow one of the the impact wrenches completely failed and he even had to retire the car. This is the first time i have seen this happen personally, so that really was extremely unlucky.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 24, 2021, 10:08:51 PM

Congratulation Quartararo as MotoGP champions this year.

This is the first time French racer as MotoGP champion, this moment very excited, he makes a little party in Emilia Romana, all eyes on Quartararo even though he didn't get on the podium. I'm very deeply regretted Bagnaia, 3 laps left he got crashed, I don't know what happen, looks like he's daydreaming. this makes Marquez in the 2nd line have grown up to 1st position. But he can't change anything, Quartararo was locked his title for this year.

Really, this is the first time a French rider takes the championship? Wow, that is a big deal. Congrats to Fabio, he deserves it. He's had a great season, and was obviously the better rider most of the season. I say most because of the Repsol gorilla in the room. Two races in a row Marquez takes a 4+ second lead and and the top spot on the podium. It's looking like Marc is back to 100% of his former self. If he can stay healthy the 2022 season is going to be his to lose.

Ducati is still leading the manufacturer's competition, but they're only 12 points ahead of Yamaha. There's still a chance for Yamaha to take the lead, and secure both the rider and manufacturer's championship. Should be a fun couple of races to finish out the season.

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Quote from: kro55 on October 28, 2021, 09:14:14 AM

^^ @coinlocket$ & @tokeweed, I have mixed feelings about the decisions Mercedes took in regards to pitting. Maybe it was a good idea, maybe it was a bad idea I don't know. But what I can is that Bottas has not been very good in recent times, except for the time he won the race. If you look at Red Bull, they have the perfect pair of drivers. Max pushing for the win while Perez has been very good support for him, holding down Hamilton or whoever comes trailing him. I have to give huge credit to Perez in these recent races as his good form has made it easier for Max to win the races.

Lol. Have you been following the whole season? Perez has not been a very good support for Verstappen or a good second driver at Red Bull. Look at most of his finishes. If he had finshed better at every race RBR should be ahead in the constructor championship or at least make it very close.

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