i can't believe what mercedes did today, without hamilton they are totally mad. It already made no sense to make that pit stop with the safety car, they could continue (and Hamilton certainly wouldn't have).
Bottas humiliated by Russel, mercedes should seriously think about not racing next year and taking Russel.
I hope the redbull also think about taking perez for next year, it would be a crime not to let him drive and keep albon
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December 06, 2020, 04:50:07 PM
December 06, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
Yes George Russel is the revelation of this race, he is the new F1 prodigy. He's going to have a big career, mark my words.
Well... maybe for the mass but for long F1 fans is not a revelation at all...
Mass doesn't know his past... he has been financially assisted by Mercedes since he was a boy.
He won F3 Mondial in his first year.
He won F2 Mondial in his first year.
He did 1 year in Williams and then he has been called (last year) from Toto Wolff to Mercedes to replace Bottas but Claire Williams said no because she needed him to sell the propriety...
If she said yes instead Russell this year was already an F1 driver in Mercedes over Bottas.
December 06, 2020, 03:54:40 PM
Yes George Russel is the revelation of this race, he is the new F1 prodigy. He's going to have a big career, mark my words.
December 06, 2020, 03:52:37 PM
Perez deserved to win since 2010 and should've had a lot of victories since now but finally he achieved it.
I feel bad for Russell, but yes Perez deserved a victory at some point. Can't believe he is currently still without a drive for next season.The one who had this podium roch is a rich men.
There were some huge odds on Russell winning this - obviously we didn't know at the time that he'd end up driving a Mercedes, but he was 3,000-1 for the win before Hamilton got sidelined. Crazy if you managed to put a bet on at those odds, and awful to then see him dominate the race and lose it in the way he did.Bottas is not a Mercedes driver
Bottas had one job today: do better than Russell. He failed. It's not a great look for him at all, and should bring his future into question. One factor in his favour is that he is a good team player and willing to play second to Hamilton... and given how easily Mercedes win the constructors' title, they can afford a second driver who lets Hamilton perform at his best. 
December 06, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
We can all agree that the real winner today is Russel. Bottas is not a Mercedes driver and he should consider himself to re-invent or something because his future in F1 is no longer stable at all. I mean all the finns had the same bad luck like him ...Hakinnen in McLaren , Kimi in McLaren and now Bottas... . The only difference is that Hakkinen and Kimi somehow managed to win a title when Bottas can not shy in the best car on the grid.
Perez deserved to win since 2010 and should've had a lot of victories since now but finally he achieved it. Ocon? A driver of speculations who always pulls something out of nothing.
Perez deserved to win since 2010 and should've had a lot of victories since now but finally he achieved it. Ocon? A driver of speculations who always pulls something out of nothing.
December 06, 2020, 03:19:27 PM
Wow, what a race. So pitty for Russel, he was so close to win, but Mercedes messed up in worst possible way. Double pit stop wasn't good idea, even if everything would have worked as Mercedes planned, because Bottas would waste too much time behind Russel in pits. At least he got first career points, but obviously he expected for much more.
First career win for Perez, he should be thankful for Mercedes today. But Checo did amazing job today - he was last after accident in first lap.
Another terrible race for Bottas, he had no chances against Russel and lost many positions after safety car. He should be happy that he have contract for next year.
Also, first career podium for Ocon.
First career win for Perez, he should be thankful for Mercedes today. But Checo did amazing job today - he was last after accident in first lap.
Another terrible race for Bottas, he had no chances against Russel and lost many positions after safety car. He should be happy that he have contract for next year.
Also, first career podium for Ocon.
December 06, 2020, 03:15:19 PM
The one who had this podium roch is a rich men.
Mercedes screwed up big today. That costs Russell the win for sure.
Mercedes screwed up big today. That costs Russell the win for sure.
December 06, 2020, 02:51:36 PM
The Sakhir GP is now over, the winner is an outsider 
Winner : Sergio Perez 1:31:15.114
Racing Point
2. Esteban Ocon +10.518
Renault
3. Lance Stroll +11.869
Racing Point
Winner : Sergio Perez 1:31:15.114
Racing Point
2. Esteban Ocon +10.518
Renault
3. Lance Stroll +11.869
Racing Point
December 06, 2020, 02:20:38 PM
Nooooooo Russell got the win but Mercedes messed up the Pit stop and now he lost the race 
December 06, 2020, 01:07:09 PM
One thing is for sure and that is without Hamilton driving the race will be more beautiful to watch as all the top three will fight hard for the win today.The track is a small one so should have quite a lot of laps and plenty of action for us to see.I predict Safety Car will be present in this race as accidents are sure to happen from what I have seen in the qualifying,the drivers were slowing down to help each other not get crash but the race is a different thing.
While Verstappen and Leclerc can compete in a single lap in this track (only because is a short track ad the differences of cars are filed) I don't think they can compete in a long run, the power of the car should emerge in a long run.
But hey anything can happen, GO RUSSELL, starts in minutes, have fun.
December 06, 2020, 12:31:02 PM
Congrats to Mich Schumacher for this F2 championship as he really deserved it after a long fight across this season. Even if some of "experts" tell that it was a bad decision for him to join HAAS for 2021, in my opinion, it was a great decision because there were no other options left for him so as sooner he joins F1 the better for him.
I took Russel today at 5odds to win so lets see how this will go.
I took Russel today at 5odds to win so lets see how this will go.
December 06, 2020, 12:24:24 PM
Does anyone know where we can watch the GP in live on internet please?
December 06, 2020, 11:06:02 AM
it's Merc 1 - 2 with Bottas in pole position. Put Verstappen, Leclerc, Vettel, maybe Ricciardo, maybe Raikkonen, maybe Perez, maaaybe even Norris in that Merc, they'll get pole.
Not convinced Vettel or Raikkonen would be up there, but agree with the others. Still, if they were partnering Hamilton instead of Bottas, they'd be fighting for second, not first 
I guess... But Merc's decision of the switching of engineers back and forth was a little sketchy imho. And 5 points is enough to prove that engineers do play a part, if all things being equal.
I think the main effect of the engineer change was in Hamilton's mind. Probably it had little to no actual effect for the races, but it certainly affected Hamilton's mindset. And a key reason for Rosberg's triumph in 2016 was that he was able to exploit Hamilton's mental state.
December 06, 2020, 09:38:58 AM
Remember the time when Mercedes had Rosberg and Hamilton's engineers switched? And Rosberg started to win races and eventually won the driver's championship?
I don't think that had much if any effect. Rosberg won in 2016 partly through Hamilton's bad luck, and partly through Hamilton's complacency in thinking he would always beat Rosberg. Whilst the reliability problems suffered by Hamilton did cost him the championship (he lost by 5 points), Hamilton did also (metaphorically) take his foot off the gas a little (as well as being uncharacteristically weak on races starts) and Rosberg took full advantage. The final few races of the 2016 season are where I think we see the emergence of the Hamilton we see now, the relentless ultra-consistent winning machine, and it was Rosberg who forced him to raise his game to this new level. I think at the end of the season Rosberg knew he'd been lucky as well as right on the edge for the whole season, and decided to retire at the top rather than face the prospect of continuing to race and never beating Hamilton to the championship again.
I guess... But Merc's decision of the switching of engineers back and forth was a little sketchy imho. And 5 points is enough to prove that engineers do play a part, if all things being equal.
Anyway, it's Merc 1 - 2 with Bottas in pole position. Put Verstappen, Leclerc, Vettel, maybe Ricciardo, maybe Raikkonen, maybe Perez, maaaybe even Norris in that Merc, they'll get pole.
December 06, 2020, 08:26:35 AM
Told you, no doubt at all Russell is a top driver in the same category as LeClerc and Verstappen, will He be the next driver for Mercedes when Hamilton will retire?
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
Mercedes in the first row was to be expected, but the Verstappen was so close and LeLerc drove a magic lap 😱, so Russell can not only make bis first Pointe this year, he can win today 💪
One thing is for sure and that is without Hamilton driving the race will be more beautiful to watch as all the top three will fight hard for the win today.The track is a small one so should have quite a lot of laps and plenty of action for us to see.I predict Safety Car will be present in this race as accidents are sure to happen from what I have seen in the qualifying,the drivers were slowing down to help each other not get crash but the race is a different thing.
December 06, 2020, 07:40:21 AM
Told you, no doubt at all Russell is a top driver in the same category as LeClerc and Verstappen, will He be the next driver for Mercedes when Hamilton will retire?
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
Mercedes in the first row was to be expected, but the Verstappen was so close and LeLerc drove a magic lap 😱, so Russell can not only make bis first Pointe this year, he can win today 💪
December 06, 2020, 02:54:24 AM
Told you, no doubt at all Russell is a top driver in the same category as LeClerc and Verstappen, will He be the next driver for Mercedes when Hamilton will retire?
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
I also think that Russell has a lot of potential and that he could be really great driver, but feel it is a bit early for him, he has room to grow. Leclerc did a beast lap with that Ferrari, really that was a one time lap and it looked so good him staying in and not making another go, knowing he can't improve after that lap haha
December 05, 2020, 08:11:27 PM
Told you, no doubt at all Russell is a top driver in the same category as LeClerc and Verstappen, will He be the next driver for Mercedes when Hamilton will retire?
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
Russel deserves to drive mercedes in 2021, unfortunately hamilton does not want a fast teammate and at the moment he commands him.
but if russel were to win tomorrow (and probably he will also run the next race since there are strict rules for those who have had the covid) mercedes could impose it on hamilton in 2022, because surely Hamilton will sign a contract of at least 3 years.
bad figure instead for fittipaldi, last one almost 1 second away from Magnussen (on such a small circuit), I don't understand why to let a driver who hasn't driven for 2 years in race
December 05, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
Told you, no doubt at all Russell is a top driver in the same category as LeClerc and Verstappen, will He be the next driver for Mercedes when Hamilton will retire?
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
I hoped till the last second for the pole and he was off by 0.026s, meh this also demonstrates what I saying for the last 2 years... Bottas is so a mediocre driver...
Amazing lap for LeClerc too he did a miracle with his car.
December 05, 2020, 02:56:14 PM
i have bet 100 euro to Russel in pole position at odd 6 to betfair and lose for only 0,026 second 
really amazing qualify, all very close in terms of times, tomorrow will be a very close race, even if Russel in the post qualifying interviews stated that it will be really difficult for him tomorrow, as he is uncomfortable in the car, being taller than Hamilton
really amazing qualify, all very close in terms of times, tomorrow will be a very close race, even if Russel in the post qualifying interviews stated that it will be really difficult for him tomorrow, as he is uncomfortable in the car, being taller than Hamilton
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