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For Marquez in 2019 he was the fastest at Germany MotoGP, with a time of 1'21,228. But with his current condition I don't think he will be the best here. I prefer Quartararo, Miller and Zarco for today's German GP result. Maybe next KTM, Honda doesn't seem to have found a good bike suit for this season.

Then about Vinales, last year he was unstable and for this season maybe he has a problem with the bike.

Surprisingly, Ferrari were not able to take pole again Red Bull has a very fast car this year and is faster than Mercedes and Hamilton is already beginning to recognize this, so it will be very interesting to see the race itself and how the cars will behave in the combat conditions of the race, and not in the hothouse conditions of qualifying. The main news is that Bottas will also start among the leaders, despite the increased rumors about his future move to Alfa Romeo. Also interesting news is that Carlos Sainz is a serious competitor to Charles Leclair in Ferrari and beat him in qualifying. Tsunoda continues to test Helmut Marko's not-so-persistent patience.

I think that we will see a great competition between Hamilton and Verstappen in this race. But Verstappen seems like he is one step ahead of Hamilton if we consider the qualifying results.

My top 3 prediction:

1. VER
2. HAM
3. PER

Story of my life, when I do no bet I would win.
When I bet I lose.

The race will be interesting especially with the tire situation going on (we don't know if Redbull was cheating).
Also, some safety cars can happen as we saw a lot of accidents there.


HAM
VER
PER

SAIN

BOTTAS DNF

 

Verstappen finished nearly a second above Hamilton during FP3 as well, but I think it is not going to be similar in the real race. If you know f1 you know that practices usually do not mean anything, they just show you which person worked the hardest.

I know HAAS cars can't be at the top even if they worked really hard, but like Mclaren can easily finish at the top place, Norris could just send it for one lap and do that but it would really damage the car to be like that without a reason. The sad part about F1 is that it requires way too much money, I do not know if teams make any profit at all even with sponsors, but it requires too much capital, which means every crash is a horrible deal for the teams, and every damage on the cars means they are unusable again or they are risking position, so practice is where people literally practice the track and that's it.

I really didn't expect anyone to go under 1.30 time, it was really a mega lap by verstappen, dude did something I wasn't expecting. It wasn't really impossible of course, did we see it happen before? I am sure it has happened before, but the qualifiers were all looking like 1.30+ was the time, even at 1.30.110 or something would be very very close to being under but we all know how much important that extra one tenth of a second usually is in racing. If he keeps this up tomorrow, he is going to have no problem but real racing is different, between DRS and ERS and all the overtaking and tire management and everything else in strategy things can get very tricky very quickly.

I still hope Red Bull wins, not that I care about them or love them too much but I just hate seeing same people be champions every year, I hate it when Bayern does it, I hate it when Juventus does it and I hate it when PSG does it, we have seen two of those three broken this year, I hope that Verstappen can take it and make it a third.

It will be a very interesting race tomorrow in F1 with Max Verstappen starting in Pole Position and right behind him there is Hamilton and Bottas in second and third but also 4th his team mate which usually these last races has been a big help to him.It is somewhat more difficult to see a lot of overtakes in this track so it will be good to see who will come out on P1 after the first turn as it will give him a lot of chances to win the race.

Zarco was also a little lucky pole position, his crash triggered the caution phase and so nobody could hit back. Aboit Rossi, yes he is currently not in the best shape and has little confidence in the motorcycle, but Yamaha should be concerned about Vinales, he is only penultimate, that shouldn't be a factory team's claim.

Marquez entered the top 5 in the German MotoGP qualifier. Is he going to rise again here. Rossi again looked bad. I'm not surprised Zarco did well today he deserved to start in first place.
Here are the final qualification results:

1 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati
2 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha
3 Aleix Espargaro ITA Aprilia Gresini
4 Jack Miller AUS Ducati Team
5 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda
6 Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM
7 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati
8 Pol Espargaro SPA Repsol Honda
9 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda
10 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Team
11 Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar
12 Alex Marquez SPA LCR Honda
13 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM
14 Luca Marini ITA VR46 Avintia Ducati
15 Enea Bastianini ITA Avintia Ducati
16 Valentino Rossi ITA Petronas Yamaha
17 Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar
18 Franco Morbidelli ITA Petronas Yamaha
19 Danilo Petrucci ITA KTM Tech3
20 Iker Lecuona SPA KTM Tech3
21 Maverick Viñales SPA Monster Yamaha
22 Lorenzo Savadori ITA Aprilia Gresini

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics

Max Verstappen had a great qualifying and nailed the pole position. Hamilton was the closest driver to put up a good fight for the pole position. Bu even he couldn't do so much against Verstappen. Red Bull is really fast in this season. I can't wait to see the race!

That will be a fun race for Red Bull tomorrow. Definitely the favorite to win. It's nice to see that Lewis is so satisfied with 2/10ths behind Verstappen. Perhaps Mercedes now also realizes that their glory is a thing of the past. However, anything can happen in a race. verstappen the most talented driver from this field for sure

Good call on your top 4 for quali.  I wonder how much would that win if you could choose to bet on exactly that...  Maybe around 20.  

Anyway here are the results for quali.

F1 2021 French GP Qualifying Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Red Bull Racing   1m31.001s   1m31.080s   1m29.990s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m31.237s   1m30.788s   1m30.248s
3   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m31.669s   1m30.735s   1m30.376s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Red Bull Racing   1m31.560s   1m30.971s   1m30.445s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m32.079s   1m31.146s   1m30.840s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m31.898s   1m31.353s   1m30.868s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m32.209s   1m31.567s   1m30.987s
8   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m31.733s   1m31.542s   1m31.252s
9   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Alpine F1 Team   1m32.158s   1m31.549s   1m31.340s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.181s   1m31.615s   1m31.382s
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   Alpine F1 Team   1m32.139s   1m31.736s   
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m32.132s   1m31.767s   
13   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m32.722s   1m31.813s   
14   George Russell   GBR   Williams Racing   1m33.060s   1m32.065s   
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m32.942s   No Time Set   
16   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m33.062s       
17   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m33.354s       
18   Nikita Mazepin   RUS   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m33.554s       
19   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   2m21.584s       
20   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   No Time Set   

Verstappen has made the difference, almost a second with Hamilton. If he continues to do that, I think he will easily take pole position. or would it be a strategy of Hamilton and then hit hard in qualifying and the reaction? They would be experienced enough for that. he will probably dominate the race, I hope Perez to finish second.

The advantage of Verstappen is astonishing.
I think I never saw 7/10 as vantage for Redbull over Mercedes.

Good and surprising time for Carlos Sainz.

Expecting

VER-HAM-BOT-PER

LEC-SAINZ-ALO

He's just gone 7 tenths clear of the rest in final practice, and Perez is ahead of Hamilton, too. Red Bull are looking quite strong... but Mercedes also looked quite good in the earlier sessions, and as ever we won't know until qualifying.
Personally I'm just glad that the street races are done and we're back to proper racing tracks.

It’s Max Verstappen again for FP3.  So far only Verstappen and Gasly has gotten the no. 1 slot for FP3 this season.  And here’s a weird statistic:  None who finished no. 1 at FP3 has taken pole at quali so far this season.  

F1 French GP FP3 Results 2021

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Red Bull Racing   1m31.300s
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.047s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m32.195s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Red Bull Racing   1m32.238s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m32.266s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.336s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Alpine F1 Team   1m32.624s
8   Esteban Ocon   FRA   Alpine F1 Team   1m32.681s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m32.707s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.759s
11   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m32.820s
12   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m33.017s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.051s
14   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.200s
15   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m33.328s
16   George Russell   GBR   Williams Racing   1m33.364s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m33.424s
18   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m33.584s
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m34.143s
20   Nikita Mazepin   RUS   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m34.642s

Verstappen seems to be well on his way in free practice, but what does that actually say? we have seen in the past that this is absolutely no guarantee of success and even starting on pole position nowadays means nothing like the previous race. I would like to see  victory for Verstappen here

Looks like that the VR46 Team at MotoGP Nest years drive with Ducati, i'm surprise about this. Ducati mist Bild a lot of biies Nest year or the VR46 Team not become spec A bikes?

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/06/18/ducati-very-close-to-agreement-with-vr46-paolo-ciabatti/379081

At Formula1, it think Mercedes and RedBull have the same performance this years and Max or Hamilton will win.

@coinlocket$ so basically this season is just a test practice for Ferrari as all the new upgrades will come next year, hence it makes sense to put money on Hamilton in each race, because there’s a chance of him winning it 9 out of 10 times. Furthermore any sportsbook allows to predict which team will win the F1, or I should only wager on who’ll win the race (Hamilton in my opinion).

I'm predicting almost 1 second from Hamilton and Ferrari.
Mercedes are in their best scenario in this kind of tracks while Ferrari is in their worse.

Keep in mind Ferrari did a new car but they save all the money to go all-in next year so it's normal they will pay so much in some tracks.