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Not really 'of course' though, surely? Mercedes did look to have a slightly faster car this time around, but it's the first time this season, and the gap was very narrow. Max was fairly close for the whole race. The way it's going, it looks like who has the best car might go back and forth between Mercedes and Red Bull depending on the specific demands of each track.

The Race is over. Sadly not many exciting moments this weekend. Hamilton won again of course and it seemed that he still had some reserves left if verstappen would have come closer. A shame that bottas could not keep up with hamilton and verstappen again. That is kinda sad, for him but also for the whole competition because now it's already clear again after 3 races that bottas will have to work for hamilton this year again as he can not really challenge him. Also i was happy to see that Mick Schumacher was able to overtake latifi close to the end. He really seems to have some talented as he is driving in the weakest car of all and still managed to overtake a williams.

What does everyone think of this bet:  Russell to finish with points (to finish top 10) priced at 2.85.  He said that he’s going to push really hard to get a point during an interview. 

Value or could be better?

Most of the time Bottas is known for bad starts in general but today is a race which is quite different compared to other tracks with a lot of bumps so anything can happen.I predict at least 1 Safety Car in today race.

yes, sorry. I want to compare to mark but made a mistaken, 20th position is alex. marq in 14th osotion on grid.

I mean on portugal, Quartaro create 25 points. that I was create mistaken (25 point for 1 games) again, I don't look at 2 games (qatar and doha) before with Quartaro get full point either.

Hahaha LOL. I didn't pay attention to who was in the 20th position in the starting grid, so I thought it was Marc Marquez. Because I think Alex Marquez is often called Alex and Marcq is Marquez. I'm sorry if I was wrong. But I am waiting for this race, maybe it will be more exciting than the previous series.

Who is getting confused here? blue Snow is talking about 20th position on the starting grid which belongs to Alex Marquez and your reply is related to the crash of Marq Marquez. It seems that blue Snow wanted to talk about Marc Marquez as he compared it to Rossi, but he did take the position of Marq's brother (Alex).  


I do not really understand which 25 points you are referring to? Quartararo is indeed still on top of the standing, but his points is 61 and Bagnaia with 46 points on the 2nd place.

Yes, but exceeding the track limits gave him an advantage, which helped him to get such a low time.
Ultimately it was a weird Q3 session, with no-one able to get anywhere near the time Hamilton had set in the prior session. A gusting wind and a track surface like an ice rink may have made the qualifying times a little unrepresentative.

Yes, as always the start is important. If Mercedes can hold P1 and P2 for the first few laps until things settle down, they might have a big strategic advantage when it comes to the pit stops... another factor in this could be whether or not Perez is able to keep up with the front three, or whether Verstappen will be left alone vs the Mercedes cars.

Last year, if I'm not mistaken, the 1st and 2nd positions belonged to Yamaha. Fabio Quartararo and Maverick Vinale and third place, Dovizioso from Ducati. Today it seems that his dominance is still the same, it seems that Marquez has not been able to perform optimally. I heard he fell during FP 3. Maybe today Yamaha will win again here.

Very good starting position for Yamaha, I'm already looking forward to the race. I think it will be an uphill battle for victory, the new young generation of drivers has finally arrived. Seems like Rossi is already in his head next year with his own team, hope he can still make his 200th podium this year, but it will be very difficult. Marc had another bad crash, will he ever come back as old?

Today MotoGP on Jerez Circuit Spain, here starting grid the pool qualification:



Fabio Quartararo still on TOP stand with 25 points. however, Quartararo's position still at risk to defeat by Bagnaia with 20 points. In the Spain circuit, Bagnaia in the 4th pole position, If not careful Quartararo's position will be hijacked by the Ducati racer.

the race today, Marquez and Rossi position on 20th and 17th, I think it would be hard for both of them to get top position.

After seeing Bottas' performance in the practices, I was expecting him to have a good position in the qualifying. But taking the pole position was really unexpected for me.    If I'm not wrong, Verstappen actually had a lap time which was going to be enough for taking the pole position. But it was deleted unfortunately because he was out of track limits on a turn. But still, I think that Verstappen could win the race if he has a good start.

Pole position for Bottas but we already know he will fail tomorrow.

Verstappen did a mistake on 1st try of the 2 in the 3rd part of qualify so in his last and only try he didn't push at his 100% or he was risking the 10th position.

Tomorrow we will see a fun race imho the track is still slippery for the new asphalt.

I'm not sure this is entirely due to Mercedes. Verstappen had his first time wiped for exceeding track limits... which meant he had to be more cautious on his next run, to avoid starting from tenth.
I'm not sure Mercedes have any real pace advantage... but they do have a strategic advantage now starting P1 and P2.

I'm so hyped for the race tomorrow because the race seems so tight and I think everyone in top 5 has a fair chance to win it as we saw what can happen with this gummy circuit who can kill the tyres in a matter of few corners. Who would've thought that the last sprint in Q3 gonna be full of yellow times ? No one surpassed the previous time that they've done.

Overall , great qualifiers and good to see some redemption for Vettel as he reached q3.

The qualifying is over and sadly mercedes was pretty far ahead of the other teams again with a 0,4s gap between mercedes and verstappen. Bottas managed to beat hamilton today which will help him to get some confidence back after the bad results he had in the last races. Great performance of vettel today as he managed to reach Q3 today and his teammate was already eliminated in Q1. For tomorrows race i am afraid that i will most likely be a clear victory for mercedes as they can start on the medium tyres. It will be interesting to see, if Bottas is allowed and able to battle with hamilton for the victory.

FP3 rusults here.

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Red Bull Racing   1m18.489s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m18.725s
3   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m18.820s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Red Bull Racing   1m18.840s
5   Esteban Ocon   FRA   Alpine F1 Team   1m18.860s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m19.001s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m19.050s
8   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m19.272s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m19.374s
10   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m19.415s
11   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m19.485s
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m19.582s
13   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m19.588s
14   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Alpine F1 Team   1m19.949s
15   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m20.007s
16   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m20.033s
17   George Russell   GBR   Williams Racing   1m20.127s
18   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m20.214s
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m20.681s
20   Nikita Mazepin   RUS   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m20.690s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/976613/1/f1-2021-portuguese-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3

ALPINE is on fire, they can even reach the 3rd row today if they have the perfect lap.

Qualify starting in minutes.

A big surprise from Alpine so far.
They are very fast, can they compete with Ferrari for 3rd place or it is only a bluff?

Ferrari has a new down part of the car and they seem very competitive so far but Mercedes and Redbull will probably go un in horse power tomorrow.

I'm sorry that you lost your bet. George Russell is really a very talented driver I believe. Even with a Williams car, he is doing more than the expected for sure. If it weren't for the big accident in the last race, I think he was going to finish at a very good position.

Moto E in its current form is not a competition to MotoGP, too slow and much too heavy. Also very dangerous in the event of an accident, so nothing practical. I've also seen Moto E live, I wouldn't pay a cent to enter, something so boring and unspectacular for spectators, no biket would want to see it. My personal opinion.