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In the official F1 page they say as breaking news that Saudi Arabia will have a F1 race in 2021.I think it is the first time that this country will hold such a race.The more races we have in a year the better as we are reaching the end of a strange F1 Championship in 2020.
And they don't even made layout of track, so we don't know what kind oc race to expect. But I imagine it will be as boring as Sochi or Abu Dhabi. Instead of adding classic race track we will have another street circuit. I think that races in Mugello, Portimao, Imola and Nurburgring were interesting, so I will miss these tracks next year. But obviously, money is main factor there.
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In the official F1 page they say as breaking news that Saudi Arabia will have a F1 race in 2021.I think it is the first time that this country will hold such a race.The more races we have in a year the better as we are reaching the end of a strange F1 Championship in 2020.
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Well, it is only a money thing in the end for Hamilton? Probably.

According to rumors, he asked for more meetings with the trade union of drivers to fight for the cutoff of drivers' salaries.

Sadly this article is in Italian, https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-piloti/f1-tetto-stipendi-hamilton-sprona-sindacato-lewis-salary-cap-529410.html

It seems F1 drivers don't really care about their union, especially the top drivers. Nowadays it's headed by Romain Grosjean, who never got close to such a salary, and is soon out of F1, so I doubt he will fight that hard to up the cap. It's too bad the cap is for the pair of drivers though, it means we will never have two top drivers, two world champions, driving in the same team.

For the fans are the situation perfect when two top driver or champions drive at the best team (like Mercedes), but for the team it's very bad to manage the two drivers, tense situation in the team and probably more power struggles in and outside the box.
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Well, it is only a money thing in the end for Hamilton? Probably.

According to rumors, he asked for more meetings with the trade union of drivers to fight for the cutoff of drivers' salaries.

Sadly this article is in Italian, https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-piloti/f1-tetto-stipendi-hamilton-sprona-sindacato-lewis-salary-cap-529410.html

It seems F1 drivers don't really care about their union, especially the top drivers. Nowadays it's headed by Romain Grosjean, who never got close to such a salary, and is soon out of F1, so I doubt he will fight that hard to up the cap. It's too bad the cap is for the pair of drivers though, it means we will never have two top drivers, two world champions, driving in the same team.
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Honestly the more he delays , the more I think Hamilton will retire out of nowhere just like Rosberg did. He will equal Schumi on 7 titles and then leave F1 to pursue his other dreams ( as we know he loves a lot of other sports too ) so I will not be surprised if  this happens at the end of the season. Also the fact that he has no real equal in F1 in this times, he has nothing to demonstrate to the fans anymore, just like Khabib who beat everyone and retired undefeated.

He has 30 more millions reasons to not doing it and probably 100 more millions to retire in 3 years beating all the F1 records.
I think he only wants a bigger amount of money possible from this situation.

He knows he will be staying in history for a long time if he will win the 8th title and he will be remembered as the Mercedes driver, he probably wants more money for the advisement he will do for years and years.

Like Schumacher and Ferrari are still remember Today, almost no one cares about the title with Kimi but everyone remembers Schumi.
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Honestly the more he delays , the more I think Hamilton will retire out of nowhere just like Rosberg did. He will equal Schumi on 7 titles and then leave F1 to pursue his other dreams ( as we know he loves a lot of other sports too ) so I will not be surprised if  this happens at the end of the season. Also the fact that he has no real equal in F1 in this times, he has nothing to demonstrate to the fans anymore, just like Khabib who beat everyone and retired undefeated.
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Well, it is only a money thing in the end for Hamilton? Probably.

According to rumors, he asked for more meetings with the trade union of drivers to fight for the cutoff of drivers' salaries.

Sadly this article is in Italian, https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-piloti/f1-tetto-stipendi-hamilton-sprona-sindacato-lewis-salary-cap-529410.html
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Rossi already test yesterday positiv at Covid19, for a start he must make 2 negativ tests until Friday to start at the next Spain GP. Yamaha already named a standby replacement for Rossi, i'm wonder it's not the Yamaha test driver Lorenzo rather the SBK driver Garrett Gerloff  Huh Huh

https://us.motorsport.com/motogp/news/yamaha-rossi-covid-valencia-gerloff/4903605/

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"Luckily I still have two more chances to be back on track on Friday or Saturday. I am very sad because I am feeling well, and I can‘t wait to be back aboard my M1 and be reunited with my team.

"I really hope the next PCR test result will be negative, because missing two races was already two too many."
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I’m surprised to read that Hamilton says that he wants to stay in F1, but there’s no guarantee whether he’ll stay and race as an F1 driver. In my personal opinion it feels like he’s trying to get a big lucrative deal from Mercedes, because after achieving so much quitting now won’t make any sense for him. However what are your views on this statement, is he actually seriously considering quitting F1? or like I said eyeing a big lucrative contract?.

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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.imola-race-winner-hamilton-says-he-wants-to-stay-in-f1-but-theres-no.7HIBl0DWs5wZBgoNZSIKMX.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-8886443/Salary-cap-dent-new-40million-deal-Mercedes-Lewis-Hamilton.html

He could take a year long sabbatical or two imo.  Imagine winning everything and breaking Schumacher's records...  He prolly doesn't feel that he's getting the same high he used to get at F1 anymore.

And it's funny...  Vettel took a pay cut and signed a contract with Racing Point.  Rofl.  I think he could get the Merc drive if Hamilton leaves.  Cheesy  Verstappen is with RBR til 2023.
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The thing with F1 is that you're driving the fastest, most exciting racing cars, all around the world. And there is a challenge, look at this week-end, Bottas took pole ! Sure Hamilton might be overall "comfortable" but I doubt F1 can be routine either, and there is always the risk of an accident. Look at Rosberg, he quit on top, not because he didn't like F1 or wouldn't have a competitive car, but because of his family.

Many people say that F1 is boring nowadays and they blame Mercedes for that.
I don't agree with that. Mercedes has invested so much money in their cars something that other teams didn't do. Just see Ferrari that they didn't spend any money because of the COVID era and their thoughts that the championship is not going to be completed.
There will be always interest in this sport and the excitement that is given because of the speed and adrenaline will always exist.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not first time when he have doubts about his future in F1. IMO, it'sjust attempt to get better contract conditions or he he just want to focus on racing and become champion officially before signing new contract.
But it's true that he didn't had much challenge in F1 since Rosberg retired.
And I don't think that Kimi WRC career was mistake. Yes, he didn't achieved anything significant,but as you say, he was just looking for new challenges.

Perhaps the trip to the WRC may have cost him a second world title in F1. But nobody know, i'm happy that he come back to the F1.

The thing with F1 is that you're driving the fastest, most exciting racing cars, all around the world. And there is a challenge, look at this week-end, Bottas took pole ! Sure Hamilton might be overall "comfortable" but I doubt F1 can be routine either, and there is always the risk of an accident. Look at Rosberg, he quit on top, not because he didn't like F1 or wouldn't have a competitive car, but because of his family.

I don't agree with you, fastet possible but exciting no, WRC is for the driver more exiting as F1 but more dangerous also MotoGP i think. Probably he is only interested in the contract poker to get more money.
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The thing with F1 is that you're driving the fastest, most exciting racing cars, all around the world. And there is a challenge, look at this week-end, Bottas took pole ! Sure Hamilton might be overall "comfortable" but I doubt F1 can be routine either, and there is always the risk of an accident. Look at Rosberg, he quit on top, not because he didn't like F1 or wouldn't have a competitive car, but because of his family.
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I’m surprised to read that Hamilton says that he wants to stay in F1, but there’s no guarantee whether he’ll stay and race as an F1 driver. In my personal opinion it feels like he’s trying to get a big lucrative deal from Mercedes.

Yeah this is the only thing he wants from this.
He wants more money and this thing about more money for his contract is an already months old fact.

He has absolutrly no reason to leave the best team with the best car when he has no competition and he can be the one who will beat Schumacher the next year.

Makes 0 sense at all.
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Entertaining race, although a bit too many reliability issues.

Before the VSC, Hamilton was 27s in front of Bottas, and making fastest lap after fastest lap. He was always going to win. The race director isn't a Mercedes employee, he doesn't decide security stuff to please Mercedes or Hamilton, otherwise explain the penalties Hamilton got recently ? And Mercedes would probably even have preferred a Bottas win, that could have helped in their contract negotiation with Lewis...
I'm not saying that it was intentional thing, maybe it's just coincidence, but it looked really strange. And Lewis don't need stewards help to win race, he had enough gap to overtake Bottas after his pit stop.
I just don't get how Bottas win would help in negotiation with Lewis?
Maybe Hamilton will try a other challenge or it is an attempt to position oneself better in contract poker. For a long time ago Raikkönen search a new challenge and switched to rallying, it was a mistake but a New challenge. For Hamilton in my opinion, the last few years after rosberg have not been a real challenge but have to motivate yourself more than that he was challenged.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not first time when he have doubts about his future in F1. IMO, it'sjust attempt to get better contract conditions or he he just want to focus on racing and become champion officially before signing new contract.
But it's true that he didn't had much challenge in F1 since Rosberg retired.
And I don't think that Kimi WRC career was mistake. Yes, he didn't achieved anything significant,but as you say, he was just looking for new challenges.
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Does Hamilton have a life outside F1, though ? No serious girlfriend, no children...

I was really gutted for Gasly, the Alpha Tauri was surprisingly fast, and it was a GP at home for the team, but, oh well.

Maybe Hamilton will try a other challenge or it is an attempt to position oneself better in contract poker. For a long time ago Raikkönen search a new challenge and switched to rallying, it was a mistake but a New challenge. For Hamilton in my opinion, the last few years after rosberg have not been a real challenge but have to motivate yourself more than that he was challenged.
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Does Hamilton have a life outside F1, though ? No serious girlfriend, no children...

I was really gutted for Gasly, the Alpha Tauri was surprisingly fast, and it was a GP at home for the team, but, oh well.
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I’m surprised to read that Hamilton says that he wants to stay in F1, but there’s no guarantee whether he’ll stay and race as an F1 driver. In my personal opinion it feels like he’s trying to get a big lucrative deal from Mercedes, because after achieving so much quitting now won’t make any sense for him. However what are your views on this statement, is he actually seriously considering quitting F1? or like I said eyeing a big lucrative contract?.

Sources:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.imola-race-winner-hamilton-says-he-wants-to-stay-in-f1-but-theres-no.7HIBl0DWs5wZBgoNZSIKMX.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-8886443/Salary-cap-dent-new-40million-deal-Mercedes-Lewis-Hamilton.html

If I were Hamilton I would have stayed on driving for one more season.
He is the driver with the most wins right now and he is going to be the driver with the most winning title.
One more season would be a great deal for him to secure those records and increase the gap between his record and the second one in place.
He is already a legend though and he might consider quitting in order to make a life change.
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Entertaining race, although a bit too many reliability issues.

Before the VSC, Hamilton was 27s in front of Bottas, and making fastest lap after fastest lap. He was always going to win. The race director isn't a Mercedes employee, he doesn't decide security stuff to please Mercedes or Hamilton, otherwise explain the penalties Hamilton got recently ? And Mercedes would probably even have preferred a Bottas win, that could have helped in their contract negotiation with Lewis...
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I like Bottas like to know “How d it happened” as this was what Bottas asked on the radio as before coming out from the first pit stop he was the fastest from the top three.I am not saying Bottas is better than Hamilton in no way but I wonder why all the bad luck and bad things strangely happen to him always and almost never to Hamilton?

I don't think this is the case. Bottas was in the lead, but Verstappen and Hamilton were close behind. Bottas wasn't able to pull away from them. This meant that when Verstappen pitted and went for the undercut, Mercedes had to respond by pitting Bottas to close him off - otherwise Verstappen would have taken the lead. This left Hamilton out there with a clear track, so he could accelerate away and build a gap to Bottas. The safety car certainly helped, but even without it Ham had built a gap and would have come out ahead after a pit stop.

If the situation had been the other way around, with Hamilton in first and Verstappen and Bottas close behind, what has happened so many times this season is that Hamilton accelerates away and builds a big gap to the other two. This means he can still pit and lead, and the undercut isn't so much of an issue because he's already so far ahead.

The safety car helped, but Hamilton made his own luck. Bottas just wasn't fast enough when he had the lead. Mercs are faster than Red Bulls, he should have been able to build a gap to Verstappen.

If we think about some of the other luck, like Bottas' tyre blowout a few races back... Hamilton is always able to manage tyres better than other drivers. This means when a tyre failure occurs, it's more likely to happen to Bottas first, because his tyres are more degraded.
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Hamilton [...] is he actually seriously considering quitting F1? or like I said eyeing a big lucrative contract?.
It's difficult to say. You can imagine that once he's hit all the records, he might suddenly lose motivation. But then he's only going to equal Schumacher's 7 titles... why would he not want to continue in what will still be the best car next year, and make it 8? And then why would he not want to test himself in the new regulations in 2022, when racing will supposedly be more dependent on driver than car, and more evenly matched - which is something Hamilton has always said he's wanted.

I think no one has noticed that when Bottas was asked by the team if he wanted to mount the red soft tyres because he was 31.6 seconds ahead of the car following him he was so mad that he didn’t answer at all to the team.If he did he would not have done the safety car pit stop and probably would have won the race.
Bottas wouldn't have won, Hamilton was so much quicker and he was always going to be ahead after the first pit stops - whether it was overcut or undercut. Even if Bottas had somehow managed to come out in the lead, Hamilton would have been right on his tail the whole race until Bottas made an inevitable mistake and Hamilton cruised past. It's happened time and again this season. And that's even without taking into account Bottas' car was damaged.

Hamilton are very lucky with his pit stop and the virtual saftycar, but he drives amazing rounds befor the pit stop. Also a very good race from the ice man Kimi very long and fast first turn, a little bit unhappy with his pit stop, one round later and he have a better result, but actually with the Alfa this is the best you can make of it.
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