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Quote from: ingiltere on November 11, 2020, 03:19:29 PM

16 of 21 pilots race first time in İstanbul Park. Hamilton, Vettel, Perez, Raikkonen and Hulkenberg raced 9 years ago. This would be interesting and so hard to predict who will win.
Lewis Hamilton is a natural favorite but we might see a surprise winner this time. If Hamilton wins he will also guaranteed to be the champion of the season.

Hulk will race? Who got Covid again? Cheesy

I red that Grosjean missed his flight to Istanbul, so maybe Hulkenberg is waiting for another chance to race Cheesy

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Seriously, like always, Hamilton is huge favorite, while Bottas and Verstappen will fight for 2nd place. Unless something extraordinary will happen.

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16 of 21 pilots race first time in İstanbul Park. Hamilton, Vettel, Perez, Raikkonen and Hulkenberg raced 9 years ago. This would be interesting and so hard to predict who will win.
Lewis Hamilton is a natural favorite but we might see a surprise winner this time. If Hamilton wins he will also guaranteed to be the champion of the season.

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Quote from: aesma on November 11, 2020, 01:41:47 PM

I hadn't realized it was so long since we raced there. The current cars will break records on this track, it will be hard on the engines though, so much of it is at full throttle. Maybe some tire problems too.

Yep this year and next year will be the peak for timing in circuits for a looooooong time, with the revolution of 2022 the rumor is in losing about 4/sec lap in a medium lap.
The gap will be even bigger in a fast lap with fast cornes.

Maybe they will find a super secret like the Brown GP back in days but it will be improbable and we probably not see these lap timing for a decade.

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I hadn't realized it was so long since we raced there. The current cars will break records on this track, it will be hard on the engines though, so much of it is at full throttle. Maybe some tire problems too.

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The onboard of the Turkish GP track looks interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_zwcfK4mXs. I didn't followed the F1 when this track was part of it so it's quite new for me.

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In the official F1 page they say as breaking news that Saudi Arabia will have a F1 race in 2021.I think it is the first time that this country will hold such a race.The more races we have in a year the better as we are reaching the end of a strange F1 Championship in 2020.

I'm not too happy about that to be frank, Saudi Arabia is an horrible country and F1 should stay away from it until it changes drastically.

I think the same as you, but money is more important than moralic concerns. The track at Turkey is nice, but even there you should currently have a bit of moralic concern, but well.

But this weekend MotoGP and F1 overlap, let's see how it turns out.

Money does talk, yes. For a country to get a Formula 1 race is a huge achievement, and is seen by corrupt regimes as a way to improve their PR and gain some measure of legitimacy in the world. Same for other events such as the World Cup or the Olympics. Certain countries will pay vast amounts of money to get an F1 race, and F1 just holds its nose and says 'yes'.
People have been waiting for Lewis Hamilton to speak out against the Saudi GP, but I don't think that's fair. We can't expect one driver - however prominent - to be the conscience of an entire sport. He's already pulled BLM into prominence in a sport that would otherwise have disregarded it. It's time for the F1 leaders themselves to take a stand here... but this seems hugely unlikely to happen.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2020, 08:42:48 AM

Iannone has been banned for 4 years for doping...
LOL, what the actual f. you need doping for racing with a moto Grin

I don't think it is one of those sports where you spend a lot of calories like cycling, if you are noob because you break too soon or you motocycle is bad and you can't compete what is the point of using doping?

It depends what kind of doping he used. Doping isn't just about physical strength and endurance. It can also improve your reaction or something else. I read somewhere that even chess players use doping.

Quote from: aesma on November 10, 2020, 05:18:56 PM

The current CEO is a newsman and doesn't seem to care. Or maybe it's because he's American, they think Saudi Arabia is a "great ally" that can do no harm, even though 9/11 was fomented and executed by Saudis...

Though, former CEO Bernie wasn't better in terms of moral IMO and money was main factor for him.

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Quote from: aesma on November 10, 2020, 05:18:56 PM

The current CEO is a newsman and doesn't seem to care. Or maybe it's because he's American, they think Saudi Arabia is a "great ally" that can do no harm, even though 9/11 was fomented and executed by Saudis...

I just learned that Stefano Domenicali is the CEO of Lamborghini, that's too funny ! I wonder if he knows the place that brand has in bitcoiners hearts ?

Domenicali is actually the CEO of Lamborghini indeed but from 2021 he will be the CEO of Formula 1 under Liberty media Management and he will replace Chase Carey.

You can learn more about this here: https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12079169/stefano-domenicali-to-replace-chase-carey-as-f1-ceo

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The current CEO is a newsman and doesn't seem to care. Or maybe it's because he's American, they think Saudi Arabia is a "great ally" that can do no harm, even though 9/11 was fomented and executed by Saudis...

I just learned that Stefano Domenicali is the CEO of Lamborghini, that's too funny ! I wonder if he knows the place that brand has in bitcoiners hearts ?

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Quote from: Koal-84 on November 10, 2020, 12:54:44 PM

I think the same as you, but money is more important than moralic concerns. The track at Turkey is nice, but even there you should currently have a bit of moralic concern, but well.

But this weekend MotoGP and F1 overlap, let's see how it turns out.

Money is everything.
Not only in F1 but even in MotoGP.

We need to know how Domenicali will handle the new contract when these active contracts will expire, he should be now the new CEO and he will need to decide where do they will race next.

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Quote from: aesma on November 10, 2020, 11:40:14 AM

Quote from: swogerino on November 05, 2020, 10:10:27 AM

In the official F1 page they say as breaking news that Saudi Arabia will have a F1 race in 2021.I think it is the first time that this country will hold such a race.The more races we have in a year the better as we are reaching the end of a strange F1 Championship in 2020.

I'm not too happy about that to be frank, Saudi Arabia is an horrible country and F1 should stay away from it until it changes drastically.

I think the same as you, but money is more important than moralic concerns. The track at Turkey is nice, but even there you should currently have a bit of moralic concern, but well.

But this weekend MotoGP and F1 overlap, let's see how it turns out.

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Quote from: swogerino on November 05, 2020, 10:10:27 AM

In the official F1 page they say as breaking news that Saudi Arabia will have a F1 race in 2021.I think it is the first time that this country will hold such a race.The more races we have in a year the better as we are reaching the end of a strange F1 Championship in 2020.

I'm not too happy about that to be frank, Saudi Arabia is an horrible country and F1 should stay away from it until it changes drastically.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 10, 2020, 08:42:48 AM

Iannone has been banned for 4 years for doping...
LOL, what the actual f. you need doping for racing with a moto Grin

I don't think it is one of those sports where you spend a lot of calories like cycling, if you are noob because you break too soon or you motocycle is bad and you can't compete what is the point of using doping?

Very hard, but so it is... i think his explanation was not plausible and credible for the doping commission, hence the high penalty.

I don't know about this men but for all interesting to read an older article

A Doping Expert Explains Why Andrea Iannone's Suspension Was 18 Months

This year we don't see at track Maerc Marquez

Marquez won't race again in 2020 MotoGP season

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Iannone has been banned for 4 years for doping...
LOL, what the actual f. you need doping for racing with a moto Grin

I don't think it is one of those sports where you spend a lot of calories like cycling, if you are noob because you break too soon or you motocycle is bad and you can't compete what is the point of using doping?

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Let's hope we see the Dutch GP next year. Just want to see the F1 cars go through those banking corners. Grin

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 10, 2020, 05:26:20 AM

F1 announced their calendar for 2021 season:

Back to shitty GPS Grin

, at least we will have new cars and not Mercedes domination... oh wait it has postponed.

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F1 announced their calendar for 2021 season:

As expected, there will be no races in Mugello, Portimao, Nurburgring, Imola and Istanbul. Instead this we will have penultimate championship race in new Saudi Arabia track :/. Damn,I miss times when championship winner was decided in final race in Sao Paulo...
One track is yet to be announced, but it should be Vietnam I think.

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Quote from: ingiltere on November 09, 2020, 06:23:06 PM

I haven't followed Formula 1 last years but finally Turkish race track is on the calendar again. There is a big excitement in Turkey, last F1 race was held in 2011, we've waited 9 years. Due to corona there will be no fans in tribunes.
Almost none of these pilots raced here before, so making a prediction is hard.

Commercial photos are coming, some of these cars are in the streets. Looks incredible but I have to say Turkish roads are pretty bad normally. They must have fixed it before they came. Grin

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Keep us posted with fresh photos from your country as much as possible. Love the photo, looks so good! Very weird to see the F1 car on the street like this, part of the charm of the setting! Such a shame that fans are not allowed... Are there gonna be some special events for promo in this week ahead of the race?

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I haven't followed Formula 1 last years but finally Turkish race track is on the calendar again. There is a big excitement in Turkey, last F1 race was held in 2011, we've waited 9 years. Due to corona there will be no fans in tribunes.
Almost none of these pilots raced here before, so making a prediction is hard.

Commercial photos are coming, some of these cars are in the streets. Looks incredible but I have to say Turkish roads are pretty bad normally. They must have fixed it before they came. Grin

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@Real-Duke no problem after a few sides we already have the same discussion, but AakZaki is already a MotoGP fan, so i/weit hope with more insight and we may be able to inspire others, there may be more MotoGP fans in the future. I was a Formula1 fan for years (Senna, Berger, Prost, Schumacher,...) but in the last 10 years it has gotten worse and worse and I've come across to an more interesting motorsport.

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