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May 30, 2024, 01:36:56 AM
Tomorrow FP1 for the seventh MotoGP series this season will start again where Ducati will compete at its home, namely Mugello. I think this week the race will be much more exciting than what happened in Barcelona last week because remember there is a very long straight track at Mugello. And the host riders from Italy will definitely take advantage of this race to get on the podium, especially for riders using Ducati motorbikes.
May 29, 2024, 05:17:23 PM
a sensational comeback could take place in Formula 1.
in the last few hours a rumor has started to circulate according to which Briatore could return after many years, to Alpine (formerly Renault).
When asked the question, the French team did not deny the rumor but they replied that they are looking for someone with experience and a winner, what do you think?
in the last few hours a rumor has started to circulate according to which Briatore could return after many years, to Alpine (formerly Renault).
When asked the question, the French team did not deny the rumor but they replied that they are looking for someone with experience and a winner, what do you think?
May 29, 2024, 11:45:42 AM
That would be stupid from Ferrari if they don't want the mastermind which has made possible for a couple of teams to dominate in different eras of F1,he won with McLaren,then before with Redbull and again in our times with Redbull again.I think though that in the last couple of races Verstappen despite winning in Imola has clearly lost the domination of the previous seasons and most likely the deterioration will continue further,especially now that we move to Canada a super fast track clearly favoring in this time McLaren I would say,Sergio Perez is a clear demonstration of Redbull deterioration which for me is evident.
May 29, 2024, 10:58:29 AM
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Do you think Leclerc can bring a big rivalry to Verstappen this season?
To me, it still looks really difficult. It feels like Verstappen will pull away from everyone at one point. But for now it is a great joy to see this competition between.
Do you think Leclerc can bring a big rivalry to Verstappen this season?
To me, it still looks really difficult. It feels like Verstappen will pull away from everyone at one point. But for now it is a great joy to see this competition between.I'm quite optimistic that Charles can give tough competition this season to Max, even though more people are more positive about Max, but I still have hope that Charles can give very good competition this season and don't rule out the possibility that he can get the title Championship this year, nothing is impossible. He just needs a good strategy and a few upgrades on his car, that will bring him to his best performance.
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Additionally, I have read some news like Ferrari doesn't want Adrian Newey anymore. Are they out of their mind? 
It's just a rumor, we don't know for sure whether the rumor is like the reality on the ground or not. But what is certain is that Newey will choose the best team for him to work with. Whether it's Ferrari, Williams, Mercedes and McLaren, these teams have a big chance of becoming Newey's new home.
May 29, 2024, 08:01:04 AM
It looks like we are likely to have a more exciting race in Canada after leaving the boring ones in Imola and Monaco behind. 
But I must admit I'm very happy to see Leclerc winning a home Grand Prix for the first time in his career - and winning a race after 2 years. 
The current driver standings look quite interesting though. Verstappen - 169 points, Leclerc 138 points.
Do you think Leclerc can bring a big rivalry to Verstappen this season? To me, it still looks really difficult. It feels like Verstappen will pull away from everyone at one point. But for now it is a great joy to see this competition between.
Additionally, I have read some news like Ferrari doesn't want Adrian Newey anymore. Are they out of their mind?
But I must admit I'm very happy to see Leclerc winning a home Grand Prix for the first time in his career - and winning a race after 2 years. The current driver standings look quite interesting though. Verstappen - 169 points, Leclerc 138 points.Do you think Leclerc can bring a big rivalry to Verstappen this season?
To me, it still looks really difficult. It feels like Verstappen will pull away from everyone at one point. But for now it is a great joy to see this competition between.Additionally, I have read some news like Ferrari doesn't want Adrian Newey anymore. Are they out of their mind?
May 28, 2024, 09:04:12 PM
Btw, it seems like India's MotoGP race will be canceled this year, moving it to the next season if the organizer is to be trusted[1]. They cited weather conditions as the reason why the race needed to be moved, as it is too challenging for riders and marshalls to do their jobs. Some argue the key reason is likely financial reason. Whatever the reason is, it will reduce the number of races this season if this is true. I wonder if this will make the season more interesting since riders need to be strict with points to ensure they win the season or not. CMIIW.
[1] https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/india-motogp-promoter-cancels-this-years-race-eyes-march-2025-date/10616982/
[1] https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/india-motogp-promoter-cancels-this-years-race-eyes-march-2025-date/10616982/
May 27, 2024, 07:20:44 AM
Boring but emotional race today.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
Yeah.. It was so boring and the red flag at the start of the race didn't help. It took some time and by the time it was around the 10th lap or so, I just stopped watching altogether and went on to do something else. The next race is at Canada... :/ Yeah skipping that one. Will start watching the next few races starting at the Spanish GP up to the Singaporean GP.
Anyway, here are the results since no one posted them yet.
2024 F1 Monaco GP Race Results
Charles Leclerc 2:23:15.554
Oscar Piastri +7.152s
Carlos Sainz +7.585s
Lando Norris +8.650s
George Russell +13.309s
Max Verstappen +13.853s
Lewis Hamilton +14.908s
Yuki Tsunoda +1 lap
Alexander Albon +1 lap
Pierre Gasly +1 lap
Fernando Alonso +2 laps
Daniel Ricciardo +2 laps
Valtteri Bottas +2 laps
Lance Stroll +2 laps
Logan Sargeant +2 laps
Zhou Guanyu +2 laps
Esteban Ocon DNF
Sergio Perez DNF
Nico Hulkenberg DNF
Kevin Magnussen DNF
May 27, 2024, 04:20:59 AM
The only interesting part was Lap 1. That was a really horrifying accident between Magnussen and Perez. Most part of the car was just torn apart. Thankfully Perez is healthy now without even having a concussion as far as I know. Sainz was really lucky indeed. Despite having a blowout after a touch to Piastri's car, the red flag after Perez's accident helped Sainz return to the race at the same position he started. 
After that the race was completely boring. We didn't even see the front rows pitting. If it wasn't for that accident the race could have been more exciting with pits but nobody wanted to take risks. Great job, Leclerc! Finally a home Grand Prix win.
Most part of the car was just torn apart. Thankfully Perez is healthy now without even having a concussion as far as I know. Sainz was really lucky indeed. Despite having a blowout after a touch to Piastri's car, the red flag after Perez's accident helped Sainz return to the race at the same position he started. After that the race was completely boring. We didn't even see the front rows pitting. If it wasn't for that accident the race could have been more exciting with pits but nobody wanted to take risks. Great job, Leclerc! Finally a home Grand Prix win.
May 26, 2024, 10:01:03 PM
Boring but emotional race today.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
It was quite a boring race, even Max himself said that he should have brought a pillow because it was so boring. In fact, in the history of F1, this is the first time there has been a race where the drivers from P1-P10 finished according to yesterday's qualifying session, which shows that the bigger F1 cars are no longer suited to the Monaco circuit which is not being updated. In fact, I could say that yesterday's F2 race was more interesting to watch compared to F1. But even so, the results of yesterday's race were very impressive for Charles, because this was the first time he had won on the circuit in his home country. It was quite emotional, and as a Ferrari fan I looked at Charles with great pride. Hopefully this will be a positive result for Charles' performance in the upcoming races.
May 26, 2024, 05:43:25 PM
It's impossible to overtake in Monaco, probably I can count all overtakes on my one hand fingers. Stroll did it few times, thanks him for some entertainment, but it only can happen when opponent makes mistake or lose comcentration a bit.
Leclerc, this was very emotionsl win for him, feel happy for Charles that he finally won in Monaco.
Yeah Stroll managed to do some overtakes cause he got such much better tires with better grip otherwise it was not possible.
In a narrow track like this one with these huge cars (these cars are almost 6m long)
The race for the title is open, atleast for the constructors.
May 26, 2024, 03:33:50 PM
Boring but emotional race today.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
If not 1st lap action, it would be one of most boring races I ever saw. That crash was huge, Magnussen was a bit too much optimistic if he wanted to overtake Perez here. Sainz got lucky with red flag, otherwise it would be end of race for him.As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
Ocon, wtf he is doing and again again his teammate, how this guy is still in F1.
It's impossible to overtake in Monaco, probably I can count all overtakes on my one hand fingers. Stroll did it few times, thanks him for some entertainment, but it only can happen when opponent makes mistake or lose comcentration a bit.
Leclerc, this was very emotionsl win for him, feel happy for Charles that he finally won in Monaco.
May 26, 2024, 03:30:26 PM
Definitely an emotional race for Leclerc! 
He was crying with joy in his car after winning the race. He waited for this moment so long. Winning a race at home is really invaluable for drivers.
A really great frame captured while Leclerc was celebrating his win.
There were tactical wars between Ferrari and McLaren during the whole race. While I was wondering maybe McLaren would go for an undercut there wasn't any pit at all. I didn't even know the first time they entered due to red flag was counted as a pit. I'm glad Perez is okay after that horrible accident.
Another interesting thing was Russell's completing the whole race with the medium tyres he got during the red flag.
He was crying with joy in his car after winning the race. He waited for this moment so long. Winning a race at home is really invaluable for drivers.A really great frame captured while Leclerc was celebrating his win.
There were tactical wars between Ferrari and McLaren during the whole race. While I was wondering maybe McLaren would go for an undercut there wasn't any pit at all. I didn't even know the first time they entered due to red flag was counted as a pit.
I'm glad Perez is okay after that horrible accident.Another interesting thing was Russell's completing the whole race with the medium tyres he got during the red flag.
May 26, 2024, 02:59:02 PM
Boring but emotional race today.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
As said in Monaco you cant pass, it is only about strategy, for example if Charles was driving in 1.25 (and not 1.16) and saving the battery in correct turn he was still able to win.
What a destroyed car Perez got, and the incident was not so at high speed, crazy.
May 26, 2024, 08:47:57 AM
The unexpected return of Sainz to the race comes as a delightful surprise defying the initial assumption of his departure from contention.This unforeseen twist injects a renewed sense of intrigue and anticipation into the proceedings elevating the stakes and intensifying the competitive landscape.
Sainz's resurgence introduces an element of resilience and determination showcasing the unwavering spirit of a true competitor.His ability to overcome adversity and rejoin the race underscores the unpredictable nature of motorsport where fortunes can swiftly shift and outcomes remain uncertain until the checkered flag falls.
Sainz's resurgence introduces an element of resilience and determination showcasing the unwavering spirit of a true competitor.His ability to overcome adversity and rejoin the race underscores the unpredictable nature of motorsport where fortunes can swiftly shift and outcomes remain uncertain until the checkered flag falls.
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May 26, 2024, 08:42:09 AM
What an amazing Sprint Race with so many drama especially the crashes for the 3 riders who crashed when they were leading.
This race also another proof that Marc is not over yet, start the race from the 14th and he made a good start and continue the race with his best then took the 2nd position.
Sorry to Raul Fernandez, he did everything well before he made a mistake that make him crashed while he was leading with a good gap.
Now the question is, will Marc do the same again like what he did in the previous Le Mans race?
Today's race was also full of quite fierce competition, especially for Aleix Espargaro who started the race in first place but was unable to get a podium today because he had to face Marquez in the final laps of the race. And another thing is Bagnaia's atonement for the mistake he made by winning today's race after trailing Jorge Martin who was leading the race. Now the gap in points in the standings is still quite fierce, especially for the top three riders such as Jorge Martin, Bagnaia and Marquez after the race is finished today. This race also another proof that Marc is not over yet, start the race from the 14th and he made a good start and continue the race with his best then took the 2nd position.
Sorry to Raul Fernandez, he did everything well before he made a mistake that make him crashed while he was leading with a good gap.
Now the question is, will Marc do the same again like what he did in the previous Le Mans race?
May 26, 2024, 08:29:58 AM
It started in the worse possible of ways,4 cars out in the first lap and a red flag while the stewards are still fixing the track and barriers so the race can restart.With Sainz out of the picture the McLaren's have a great chance to maximize their chances with an easy strategy,they let one driver run more than Leclerc and with the other driver they mimic what Ferrari will do,they have two cars against one of Ferrari and with Verstappen out of the picture as the problems were clear for Redbull,we saw Perez with the Haas cars when he was taken out,so he had big problems in his first lap.
May 26, 2024, 07:42:54 AM
Yes.
Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.
I hate this track.
Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.
I hate this track.
This track should be allowed to make some changes on it to make it more interesting to watch. Otherwise it is going to stay as one of the most boring Grand Prix in the calendar.
Only qualifying and pits are exciting to watch.Is there any part of the track to make an attempt for an overtake? The only parts I can say are the start straight - which isn't much long
- and maybe the tunnel exit if the drivers are too close to each other. Ambitious drivers such as Verstappen like to push their luck there. May 25, 2024, 08:34:26 PM
Leclerc got pole position and Max Verstappen hit the wall starting in sixth place tomorrow.What more could have we wanted from such official qualifying session,we are finally going to see a really good race as we know how difficult if not impossible is to overtake in this race.
I think this makes it interesting as I am sure Verstappen will not be happy sitting behind other cars,he will try his best to overtake in here and we have seen rare overtaking moves in the first part of the track if he manages to get along the other cars in those slow corners after the fast first sector,the tunnel a very dangerous place yet we have also seen other people overtaking there too,tomorrow Max should show us all of his skills in a car which is still the best despite today not being in a great fit.
I think this makes it interesting as I am sure Verstappen will not be happy sitting behind other cars,he will try his best to overtake in here and we have seen rare overtaking moves in the first part of the track if he manages to get along the other cars in those slow corners after the fast first sector,the tunnel a very dangerous place yet we have also seen other people overtaking there too,tomorrow Max should show us all of his skills in a car which is still the best despite today not being in a great fit.
Not only does Max need to get past Lando, but he also needs to get past Sainz and Russel who will most likely also show their best performance. Moreover, RB experienced a bumpy problem on their car on this circuit, causing Max to lose momentum when overtaking at several corners. Even Horner himself said it would be quite a serious problem and all they could do was rely on the data to determine the best strategy. I think Max will finish in P3 or P4, if only if he wouldn't make the mistake of crashing into the barriers like he did in qualifying.
May 25, 2024, 05:48:16 PM
Saturday is most important day in Monaco GP as most of things is decided then. And Saturday ended in terrible way for Red Bull. Verstappen tried to push to the limits and hit wal already on 1st turn,, but even without it, I'm not sure that he would be able to take pole from Lecler. Now there is question, is it possible for Max to reach podium?
But Perez, you must be kidding. 18th place when you have clean track without traffic on your fast lap...
But Perez, you must be kidding. 18th place when you have clean track without traffic on your fast lap...
It is possible? for sure but he needs to hope in a lower degradation in his tyres or in some safety car or virtual safety car.
Since it is almost impossible to overtake here, noone wants to pit early on this track and for this reason the driver ahead can go very slow with the pace for saving tyres since it will be unlikely passed after the 1st turn.
May 25, 2024, 03:00:49 PM
Yes.
Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.
I hate this track.
Saturday is most important day in Monaco GP as most of things is decided then. And Saturday ended in terrible way for Red Bull. Verstappen tried to push to the limits and hit wal already on 1st turn,, but even without it, I'm not sure that he would be able to take pole from Lecler. Now there is question, is it possible for Max to reach podium?Monaco in exiting only on Saturdays when drivers goes at 100% on speed.
On Sundays usually when nothing happens leader can go at 80% of speed since nobody can pass and save the tires as much he can, degradaging tires of opponents and get a big advantage in this way.
I hate this track.
But Perez, you must be kidding. 18th place when you have clean track without traffic on your fast lap...
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