despite the three penalty positions Bagnaia dominated the Italian weekend in the Mugello grand prix
Bastianini also achieved a strong performance at the end of the race, securing second place and a double for the red Ducati.
The classification is now shorter in the top positions even if Martin continues to have a decent margin of points ahead
If Honda doesn't start making big investments in Moto GP again, they should withdraw, they're just making a bad impression and probably losing a lot of money.
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June 02, 2024, 09:46:15 AM
According to some papers next week will be the week of Adrian Newey.
Accordon to the rumors he will announce what he will do next year and the same rumors spoken about a big offer from Mercedes including shares of the company.
It should be Ferrari, Mercedes or Mclearen.
Accordon to the rumors he will announce what he will do next year and the same rumors spoken about a big offer from Mercedes including shares of the company.
It should be Ferrari, Mercedes or Mclearen.
These days are quite active when it comes to Adrian Newey's future.
They actually say Williams has been the most seriously interested team in him. But now I don't even hear about their name. Probably it was some kind of a rumour or they gave up after thinking over how much he might cost to the team. 
But for the awakening of Williams wouldn't it be nice to see him there?It looks like Mercedes is trying to intervene with an interesting offer - like team shares. Especially for 2026 changes, they are doing their best to be the team at the top seemingly. McLaren? I haven't heard about their interest, hmm...
June 02, 2024, 08:40:44 AM
Bagnaia has won the sprint race superior and safe, for Martin very bitter, it is only 12 points but Bagnaia has made up 12 points by the not really necessary crash, as well as Marc has made up 9 points.
Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
Today's results are certainly extraordinary for Bagnaia because he could not be overtaken by other riders after starting the Sprint from second place. However, for tomorrow Bagnaia will have to fight harder because he will serve a penalty by dropping three grids from his proper position, but I think he can definitely win again tomorrow if he doesn't make any mistakes in the race.Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
To catch up on the difference in points with Martin, and race in front of his supporters, I am sure that tomorrow Bagnaia will be champion again, but keep in mind that Martin and M Marquez will provide fierce competition, maybe all three. The racers are Bagnaia, Martin and M Marquez who will climb the podium but Bagnaia remains number 1
With more laps for tomorrow, of course each rider must be able to adapt themselves to the tires they will use, because if they make a mistake in maintaining tire wear it could also be quite fatal for all three. I am also quite sure that these three riders will compete fiercely because I remember that Martin still wants to widen the points gap with Bagnaia and Marquez.Even though Francesco Bagnaia had to start in fifth position because of the penalty he received but Bagnaia got off to a good start and he flashed forwards. He was able to maintain that first position until the final lap. Meanwhile, Jorge Martin, who got the start in first position, had to settle for second place when the race started. In that race, Jorge Martin seemed ready to challenge Bagnaia and he did that until the last 2 laps but for an unknown reason (I guess the cause is a tire wear problem), Jorge Martin seemed to be starting to slow down and he could even be overtaken by Enea Bastianini.
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June 02, 2024, 08:26:36 AM
Even though he had to drop three places on the grid today, Pecco Bagnaia also succeeded in winning today's race in Italy followed by his teammate in second place, so this is truly extraordinary and very valuable momentum for the Ducati factory because both His flagship rider managed to step on podiums 1 and 2 today. And the thing that hurts a little is that Marquez, who was predicted to win, didn't even get a podium in this race because he only managed to finish fourth after fighting with Pedro Acosta and Enea Bastianini in the race.
June 01, 2024, 12:59:44 PM
According to some papers next week will be the week of Adrian Newey.
Accordon to the rumors he will announce what he will do next year and the same rumors spoken about a big offer from Mercedes including shares of the company.
It should be Ferrari, Mercedes or Mclearen.
Accordon to the rumors he will announce what he will do next year and the same rumors spoken about a big offer from Mercedes including shares of the company.
It should be Ferrari, Mercedes or Mclearen.
June 01, 2024, 10:57:49 AM
Ocon also got a lot of negativity on himself after the accident he caused during Monaco Grand Prix. He says that they aren't robots and he is sad after seeing the comments related to him.
But why would you try to attack your teammate in a place like this?
There was no need to force this overtake on such a tight track especially against his teammate.
Alpines were in a good place to push for points in the end after a horrible start to the season. Ocon should have acted more professionally there. I know he is ambitious but he should act smarter than that.
But why would you try to attack your teammate in a place like this?
There was no need to force this overtake on such a tight track especially against his teammate.Alpines were in a good place to push for points in the end after a horrible start to the season. Ocon should have acted more professionally there. I know he is ambitious but he should act smarter than that.
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June 01, 2024, 10:26:03 AM
Bagnaia has won the sprint race superior and safe, for Martin very bitter, it is only 12 points but Bagnaia has made up 12 points by the not really necessary crash, as well as Marc has made up 9 points.
Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
Today's results are certainly extraordinary for Bagnaia because he could not be overtaken by other riders after starting the Sprint from second place. However, for tomorrow Bagnaia will have to fight harder because he will serve a penalty by dropping three grids from his proper position, but I think he can definitely win again tomorrow if he doesn't make any mistakes in the race.Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
To catch up on the difference in points with Martin, and race in front of his supporters, I am sure that tomorrow Bagnaia will be champion again, but keep in mind that Martin and M Marquez will provide fierce competition, maybe all three. The racers are Bagnaia, Martin and M Marquez who will climb the podium but Bagnaia remains number 1
With more laps for tomorrow, of course each rider must be able to adapt themselves to the tires they will use, because if they make a mistake in maintaining tire wear it could also be quite fatal for all three. I am also quite sure that these three riders will compete fiercely because I remember that Martin still wants to widen the points gap with Bagnaia and Marquez. June 01, 2024, 09:46:40 AM
2024 Italian MotoGP, Mugello - Sprint Race Results
Pos Rider Nat Team Time/Diff
1 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP24) 19m 30.251s
2 Marc Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP23) +1.469s
3 Pedro Acosta SPA Red Bull GASGAS Tech3 (RC16)* +4.147s
4 Franco Morbidelli ITA Pramac Ducati (GP24) +5.421s
5 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP24) +7.693s
6 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +8.271s
7 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA VR46 Ducati (GP23) +8.571s
8 Alex Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP23) +8.846s
9 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP24) +8.984s
10 Raul Fernandez SPA Trackhouse Aprilia (RS-GP23) +10.085s
Martin DNF!
Easy win for Bagnaia, he is the king of this weekend.
Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1049883/1/2024-italian-motogp-mugello-sprint-race-results
Pos Rider Nat Team Time/Diff
1 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP24) 19m 30.251s
2 Marc Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP23) +1.469s
3 Pedro Acosta SPA Red Bull GASGAS Tech3 (RC16)* +4.147s
4 Franco Morbidelli ITA Pramac Ducati (GP24) +5.421s
5 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP24) +7.693s
6 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +8.271s
7 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA VR46 Ducati (GP23) +8.571s
8 Alex Marquez SPA Gresini Ducati (GP23) +8.846s
9 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP24) +8.984s
10 Raul Fernandez SPA Trackhouse Aprilia (RS-GP23) +10.085s
Martin DNF!
Easy win for Bagnaia, he is the king of this weekend.
Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1049883/1/2024-italian-motogp-mugello-sprint-race-results
June 01, 2024, 09:29:46 AM
I have to say Kylian M'Bappe did a very good job when waving the chequered flag at the end of the Monaco Grand Prix. I believe it is quite difficult to do it the correct way when everyone is looking at you. There have been many people that did it incorrect.
June 01, 2024, 09:28:24 AM
Bagnaia has won the sprint race superior and safe, for Martin very bitter, it is only 12 points but Bagnaia has made up 12 points by the not really necessary crash, as well as Marc has made up 9 points.
Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
To catch up on the difference in points with Martin, and race in front of his supporters, I am sure that tomorrow Bagnaia will be champion again, but keep in mind that Martin and M Marquez will provide fierce competition, maybe all three. The racers are Bagnaia, Martin and M Marquez who will climb the podium but Bagnaia remains number 1
June 01, 2024, 08:23:56 AM
Bagnaia has won the sprint race superior and safe, for Martin very bitter, it is only 12 points but Bagnaia has made up 12 points by the not really necessary crash, as well as Marc has made up 9 points.
Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
Now it's full concentration for tomorrow, if Bagnaia wins the start, it could turn out similar to today and Bagnaia pulls away like today.
June 01, 2024, 06:43:11 AM
Mugello an absolute classic track and one of the most technical regarding the MotoGP calendar.Since there is no F1 tomorrow the best next thing is exactly MotoGP and seeing how the gap has closed between many drivers in these last couple of races it means that it should be an interesting race tomorrow with the straight being a great point of overtaking yet I remember the times of Valentino Rossi and alike when they used to even overtake in the narrow back to back turns that are very beautiful in the beginning of the track of course if the track has not changed,as I remember it being a very nice one.
I am interested to see what Marquez can actually do more than anything else.
I am interested to see what Marquez can actually do more than anything else.
June 01, 2024, 05:11:52 AM
Francesco Bagnana got a penalty of 3 position in the starting grid for obstructing Alez Marquez during the free practice of Friday.
I don't think it is a big deal, this is not formula 1 and in MOTOgp you can easily overtake especially in this track.
However side news, rain is expected for Sunday.
I don't think it is a big deal, this is not formula 1 and in MOTOgp you can easily overtake especially in this track.
However side news, rain is expected for Sunday.
If Bagnaia qualifies well, the three places are not a big obstacle in the MotoGP, as you already wrote, the Ducati is very fast on the long straight in Mugello and overtaking from the slipstream is absolutely possible, except in front of you there are only Ducatis 🤣.
Just checked the probability of rain tomorrow is about 50%, could possibly be a flag-to-flag race.
May 31, 2024, 05:25:27 PM
Francesco Bagnana got a penalty of 3 position in the starting grid for obstructing Alez Marquez during the free practice of Friday.
I don't think it is a big deal, this is not formula 1 and in MOTOgp you can easily overtake especially in this track.
However side news, rain is expected for Sunday.
I don't think it is a big deal, this is not formula 1 and in MOTOgp you can easily overtake especially in this track.
However side news, rain is expected for Sunday.
May 31, 2024, 04:08:24 PM
The last Monaco GP in Formula 1 showed us that this circuit should disappear from the calendar and be remembered as a nostalgia. We saw very few passes in the many laps of this race, the new cars and the Monaco GP are not compatible. Leclerc finished the whole race protecting his tires and won at home. It was the first time a Monaco driver finished the race in front. The race was very boring but hopefully Ferrari's points will bring some excitement to F1. Perez's accident showed us once again that the drivers are safe in those cars.
Finally, Leclerc finally broke his jinx and won a race after a long time, running a flawless race at home. He didn't make any mistakes, kept his hard tires at a great pace the whole race and saw the checkered flag without a pit stop. There's a big improvement at Ferrari.
Finally, Leclerc finally broke his jinx and won a race after a long time, running a flawless race at home. He didn't make any mistakes, kept his hard tires at a great pace the whole race and saw the checkered flag without a pit stop. There's a big improvement at Ferrari.
May 31, 2024, 03:35:05 PM
Bagnaia is currently dominating practice at Mugello, we'll have to wait and see if he can do the same in the races.
He should have a very good weekend to keep up the pressure against Martin. I wouldn't put it past him after his last win.
He should have a very good weekend to keep up the pressure against Martin. I wouldn't put it past him after his last win.
May 31, 2024, 03:30:14 PM
Bagnaia dominated today's two test sessions at his home circuit at Mugello.
His Ducati seems to come from another world for this track.
At least a top 3 can be expected for the driver in the race.
Marc Marquez continues to be faster than at least a 2024 DUCATI with his 2023 bike, I assume he is Bagnaia's destined partner for next year.
His Ducati seems to come from another world for this track.
At least a top 3 can be expected for the driver in the race.
Marc Marquez continues to be faster than at least a 2024 DUCATI with his 2023 bike, I assume he is Bagnaia's destined partner for next year.
Well if he continues to be faster with a 2023 bike since his first year at Ducati then most likely for next season if he indeed goes to the officila Ducati team I doubt Bagnaia will have good chances to beat him as a team mate although anything can happen.In the last couple of races that I saw it was Marquez recovery that has made these races somewhat interesting otherwise they have been quite monotone races without much action,kinda like watching a F1 race nowadays.
I am wondering how come the Japanese manufacturers are not fighting back to their glorious days when they used to dominate and they are letting Ducati have all the fun.The sooner they wake up the better for the motorsport.
May 31, 2024, 11:12:08 AM
Bagnaia dominated today's two test sessions at his home circuit at Mugello.
His Ducati seems to come from another world for this track.
At least a top 3 can be expected for the driver in the race.
Marc Marquez continues to be faster than at least a 2024 DUCATI with his 2023 bike, I assume he is Bagnaia's destined partner for next year.
His Ducati seems to come from another world for this track.
At least a top 3 can be expected for the driver in the race.
Marc Marquez continues to be faster than at least a 2024 DUCATI with his 2023 bike, I assume he is Bagnaia's destined partner for next year.
May 31, 2024, 07:22:50 AM
so not it is official.
RBR with their boss asked several time to Sebastia Vettel to be the second driver for the next year in Redbull over Checo Perez.
What do you think?
He was already in team with Verstappen if I'm not mistaken.
RBR with their boss asked several time to Sebastia Vettel to be the second driver for the next year in Redbull over Checo Perez.
What do you think?
He was already in team with Verstappen if I'm not mistaken.
Wdym? Vettel? No... It was him and Ricciardo. And when the dynamic between them started becoming iffy, with the team favoring Ricciardo more, Vettel left. But left for a good team with a better offer money wise. Ricciardo on the other hand was partnered with Verstappen. And what Ricciardo did to to Vettel, Verstappen did to him.
So Ricciardo left but not for a better team and not with a better contract. 
It was down hill for him since then.But I'd by sooo happy if Vettel really comes back, not matter what team it is. Would like to see him with Toto Wolff at Merc tbh.
May 31, 2024, 06:59:14 AM
But keep in mind that Max do not want a contender his comfort zone look like to be with a week teammate.
He never had, or wanted a strong team mate.
The ones he had when they weren't good went sacked by RBR.
He never had, or wanted a strong team mate.
The ones he had when they weren't good went sacked by RBR.
This is why Red Bull is prioritizing a 1-year contract extension with Perez lately
: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/perez-closing-on-red-bull-f1-contract-extension/10616482/Fans must be going crazy with this decision though.
Because those people want to see Red Bull as strong as possible. But obviously continuing with Perez isn't the wisest action to take. I'm not blaming the accident in Monaco on him though. Don't get me wrong. I'm speaking about his general performance. He starts a season well but then the downfall starts again...If Red Bull wanted a competitive driver by overlooking Verstappen's expectation I guess the first candidate would be Sainz.
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