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After the big news that Hamilton will join Ferrari, now we have something even much bigger, which is Max maybe going to Mercedes as well. There are news about it if you google, and that could be just leverage as well to keep Horner in place.

Max as we all know loves Horner, and that means that he will want him to stay, so this could be a ploy to say to the team that if you fire Horner, then next year I will join Mercedes. He already won so many titles, and he is not the type of racer that cares about even more, he will have like what 4 titles this year? That's more than enough for him, he is not the type that will want 8th. So I feel like it could very well be something special if that happens, and I wonder who will get Red Bull spot.

Not only that.

Mercedes is trying for Max as they said and it not they only big thing.

According to rumors if Horner will be "sacked" a release clause will be active for Adrian Newy, and Ferrari is monitoring the situation.

I don't think Horner will be sacked based on the investigation so far and judging by the behavior after the first race the Redbull team looks more solid than ever.So I don't think Ferrari will have a real chance to get Newey under these circumstances.They can try to make him a direct offer as I am sure Newey had his glorious time at McLaren first and now at Redbull so he may like to achieve something at Ferrari too.

So I did a little reading and asking around on what's really going on at Red Bull.  So from what I've heard the team has split into two factions...  Horner's side which has the support of the crew and Jos Verstappen's side which has the support of Marko Helmut.  And here's the hilarious part...  The girl that Horner supposedly harassed?  Rumor is it's Jos Verstappen's girlfriend.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  No wonder the guy is pissed.  Lmaoo. 

So yeah, that's where the Max Verstappen rumor is coming from.  It's either Horner leaves or Verstappen leaves.
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After the big news that Hamilton will join Ferrari, now we have something even much bigger, which is Max maybe going to Mercedes as well. There are news about it if you google, and that could be just leverage as well to keep Horner in place.

Max as we all know loves Horner, and that means that he will want him to stay, so this could be a ploy to say to the team that if you fire Horner, then next year I will join Mercedes. He already won so many titles, and he is not the type of racer that cares about even more, he will have like what 4 titles this year? That's more than enough for him, he is not the type that will want 8th. So I feel like it could very well be something special if that happens, and I wonder who will get Red Bull spot.

I also heard this rumor and was a little surprised how Max could possibly want to move from Red Bull. But I think that this is just a rumor, because Max is very comfortable at Red Bull now and he is already getting along with the car and especially he has signed a contract with RBR until 2028, so his chances of moving to Mercedes are probably very small. However, that does not rule out the possibility that Max could move, because the political situation at RBR is quite stressful and when he loses motivation to stay there, it is possible that he will decide to move.
All the big drivers are now preparing for 2026. For Max, it's more of a case of "mercedes" being better suited to the engine rules that will change in 2026 - because it's a car company. So, with the rumours about the redbull engine being negative, max is already looking to move to the team with the most potential. Obviously the most exciting part of this season will be wondering who will race where next year and following the developments. First alonso and then vettel's name was mentioned for the seat to be vacated at the end of the season in mercedes. Then, after the horner - jos verstappen controversy (I don't know how true and I don't know the details), rumours that max will move to mercedes and alonso to red bull. As crazy as it seems, I feel like there might be some truth in that.
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After the big news that Hamilton will join Ferrari, now we have something even much bigger, which is Max maybe going to Mercedes as well. There are news about it if you google, and that could be just leverage as well to keep Horner in place.

Max as we all know loves Horner, and that means that he will want him to stay, so this could be a ploy to say to the team that if you fire Horner, then next year I will join Mercedes. He already won so many titles, and he is not the type of racer that cares about even more, he will have like what 4 titles this year? That's more than enough for him, he is not the type that will want 8th. So I feel like it could very well be something special if that happens, and I wonder who will get Red Bull spot.

Not only that.

Mercedes is trying for Max as they said and it not they only big thing.

According to rumors if Horner will be "sacked" a release clause will be active for Adrian Newy, and Ferrari is monitoring the situation.

I don't think Horner will be sacked based on the investigation so far and judging by the behavior after the first race the Redbull team looks more solid than ever.So I don't think Ferrari will have a real chance to get Newey under these circumstances.They can try to make him a direct offer as I am sure Newey had his glorious time at McLaren first and now at Redbull so he may like to achieve something at Ferrari too.
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Bagnaia has done very well in the tests, almost frightening (even the second factory Ducati) for the competition. But the contract has already been signed and the salary will suit Bagnaia, I don't think it will be raised again after the contract is signed, there will be bonuses for victories and the world championship title.

What you say is not wrong, but based on what I read in the media id.motorsport.com it says "the Italian manufacturer's salary policy shows that the #1 driver will get around seven million euros as a base salary, which will be increased by a variable amount depending on results. If Bagnaia defends his third title in a row, his salary will most likely reach 10 million euros".

But for now I am not really focused on that issue except on how the first race of this season will take place in Qatar, because as has been seen before, Ducati is indeed holding more dominance in Qatar so it is likely that Ducati motorbikes will fill all the podiums. This is quite reasonable because other manufacturers are not as scary this season even though they can still provide surprises in certain conditions.
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After the big news that Hamilton will join Ferrari, now we have something even much bigger, which is Max maybe going to Mercedes as well. There are news about it if you google, and that could be just leverage as well to keep Horner in place.

Max as we all know loves Horner, and that means that he will want him to stay, so this could be a ploy to say to the team that if you fire Horner, then next year I will join Mercedes. He already won so many titles, and he is not the type of racer that cares about even more, he will have like what 4 titles this year? That's more than enough for him, he is not the type that will want 8th. So I feel like it could very well be something special if that happens, and I wonder who will get Red Bull spot.

I also heard this rumor and was a little surprised how Max could possibly want to move from Red Bull. But I think that this is just a rumor, because Max is very comfortable at Red Bull now and he is already getting along with the car and especially he has signed a contract with RBR until 2028, so his chances of moving to Mercedes are probably very small. However, that does not rule out the possibility that Max could move, because the political situation at RBR is quite stressful and when he loses motivation to stay there, it is possible that he will decide to move.
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After the big news that Hamilton will join Ferrari, now we have something even much bigger, which is Max maybe going to Mercedes as well. There are news about it if you google, and that could be just leverage as well to keep Horner in place.

Max as we all know loves Horner, and that means that he will want him to stay, so this could be a ploy to say to the team that if you fire Horner, then next year I will join Mercedes. He already won so many titles, and he is not the type of racer that cares about even more, he will have like what 4 titles this year? That's more than enough for him, he is not the type that will want 8th. So I feel like it could very well be something special if that happens, and I wonder who will get Red Bull spot.

Not only that.

Mercedes is trying for Max as they said and it not they only big thing.

According to rumors if Horner will be "sacked" a release clause will be active for Adrian Newy, and Ferrari is monitoring the situation.
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After the big news that Hamilton will join Ferrari, now we have something even much bigger, which is Max maybe going to Mercedes as well. There are news about it if you google, and that could be just leverage as well to keep Horner in place.

Max as we all know loves Horner, and that means that he will want him to stay, so this could be a ploy to say to the team that if you fire Horner, then next year I will join Mercedes. He already won so many titles, and he is not the type of racer that cares about even more, he will have like what 4 titles this year? That's more than enough for him, he is not the type that will want 8th. So I feel like it could very well be something special if that happens, and I wonder who will get Red Bull spot.
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Lets see how slowly and if Marquez can adapt to the Ducati.

He may be able to win something this year.

I don't expect much more from Marc, he will still be able to fight for the podium in the next few years and for one or two wins, but I think the changeover to the Ducati will take too long to become world champion again.

I also don't think that other teams will have a chance to win this season after seeing Ducati's speed during pre-season testing and there is news circulating that Bagnaia will be able to win again this season like last season. Ducati will increase Bagnaia's salary next season to a number which is quite fantastic in my opinion, because this is certainly quite reasonable considering Bagnaia's potential on the Ducati motorbike which has been known for being fast over the years.

Bagnaia has done very well in the tests, almost frightening (even the second factory Ducati) for the competition. But the contract has already been signed and the salary will suit Bagnaia, I don't think it will be raised again after the contract is signed, there will be bonuses for victories and the world championship title.
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Biggest loser in this rwce was Leclerc.

why? he did an amazing job considering he got problems with brakes since the start.

It is an unusual problem and Brembo is already investigating the problem.

That he did but still the biggest loser given the result of the race.  I was thinking he could get to the podium instead of Perez.  But I guess it's better to move on and focus on the next race.  Leclerc is as good as at least second place barring any technical issues.

2024 F1 Saudi Arabian GP Schedule
Track:  Jedda Corniche Circuit



March 7:  Practice 1  16:30 - 17:30
March 7:  Practice 2  20:00 - 21:00
March 8:  Practice 3  16:30 - 17:30
March 8:  Qualifying  20:00 - 21:00
March 9:  Race  20:00

Which car was fastest in the straights at the last race?  :/
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After 3 days of investigations in Ferrari they haven't figured out yet what caused the problems on brakes for Leclerc.

Let's hope they find out before this weekend for the race.
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The new MotoGP season finally starts in a few days, and just in time for the start of the new season, Bagnaia has extended his contract with Ducati by 2 years until 2026.

Bagnaia and Ducati sign two-year

This season, however, it looks like the title will only go to a Ducati after the test rides, as the other teams seem to have little chance.
I also don't think that other teams will have a chance to win this season after seeing Ducati's speed during pre-season testing and there is news circulating that Bagnaia will be able to win again this season like last season. Ducati will increase Bagnaia's salary next season to a number which is quite fantastic in my opinion, because this is certainly quite reasonable considering Bagnaia's potential on the Ducati motorbike which has been known for being fast over the years.
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Meanwhile , the RedBull drama story since to go on as Joe Verstappen name was mentioned in a Dutch paper but also some online news and the reason would be that Max might be next driver of Mercedes when the new regulation will hit because Joe doesn't trust Horner anymore ... . I won't be shocked to see more and more details about this internal fight that Redbull has within the shadows.

Yeah, I have also seen it on Motorsport website. Jos Verstappen doesn't want to see Horner at Red Bull anymore. If Horner doesn't leave at some point it is really possible to see Verstappen switching to Mercedes even next year.  Shocked  It would be a huge challenge for Verstappen if this really happens. Because you know there is a huge gap between Mercedes and Red Bull now.  Smiley

There is a possibility like Helmut Marko and Adrian Newey could leave together also. This technically means Horner would also leave considering the condition existing on his contract.

For now Toto Wolff doesn't want to rush anything about a driver decision.
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The new MotoGP season finally starts in a few days, and just in time for the start of the new season, Bagnaia has extended his contract with Ducati by 2 years until 2026.

This season, however, it looks like the title will only go to a Ducati after the test rides, as the other teams seem to have little chance.

Lets see how slowly and if Marquez can adapt to the Ducati.

He may be able to win something this year.
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The new MotoGP season finally starts in a few days, and just in time for the start of the new season, Bagnaia has extended his contract with Ducati by 2 years until 2026.

Bagnaia and Ducati sign two-year

This season, however, it looks like the title will only go to a Ducati after the test rides, as the other teams seem to have little chance.
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At this point I see that Sainz and Leclerc seem to be in quite a heated competition. You can see how Sainz did several overtakes which could endanger Leclerc and vice versa. I noticed that Sainz didn't seem very happy with Ferrari's treatment of him, but that's how it is. And it was very unlucky for Leclerc because he had to experience problems with his braking. Hopefully this can be an important note for Ferrari to pay attention to braking and aerodynamics.

And as for Max, we don't need to talk about him anymore, because I feel like he already won this season. However, it seems that Perez has started to build his confidence again, as evidenced by his good performance in yesterday's race. Well, congratulations to him.
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Biggest loser in this rwce was Leclerc.

why? he did an amazing job considering he got problems with brakes since the start.

It is an unusual problem and Brembo is already investigating the problem.

I also think the same. He did a brilliant job with that poor Ferrari and by no means , he finished 4th and lost a podium just because of his brakes problems.

Meanwhile , the RedBull drama story since to go on as Joe Verstappen name was mentioned in a Dutch paper but also some online news and the reason would be that Max might be next driver of Mercedes when the new regulation will hit because Joe doesn't trust Horner anymore ... . I won't be shocked to see more and more details about this internal fight that Redbull has within the shadows.
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Biggest loser in this rwce was Leclerc.

why? he did an amazing job considering he got problems with brakes since the start.

It is an unusual problem and Brembo is already investigating the problem.
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Biggest loser in this rwce was Leclerc.  I like the guy but he needs to have some grit and be an asshole on the grid or he'll keep losing his spot...  And in this race, he was losing to his own team mate Carlos Sainz.  It's prolly cos Sainz mad because he was thrown out of the team.  Lol.  

Anyway here are the results of the race.  And would you guys think Ricciardo would've passed Magnusen if Tsunoda allowed Ricciardo to pass him earlier?

2024 F1 Bahrain GP Race Results

Max Verstappen   1:31:44.742   
Sergio Perez   +22.457s   
Carlos Sainz   +25.110s   
Charles Leclerc   +39.669s   
George Russell   +46.788s   
Lando Norris   +48.458s   
Lewis Hamilton   +50.324s   
Oscar Piastri   +56.082s   
Fernando Alonso  +74.887s
Lance Stroll   +93.216s   
Zhou Guanyu   +1 lap   
Kevin Magnussen  +1 lap   
Daniel Ricciardo   +1 lap   
Yuki Tsunoda   +1 lap   
Alexander Albon  +1 lap   
Nico Hulkenberg  +1 lap   
Esteban Ocon   +1 lap   
Pierre Gasly   +1 lap   
Valtteri Bottas   +1 lap   
Logan Sargeant +2 laps

He was very disappointed from what I have seen in the post race interview for Sky Sport where he claimed that it was a good thing that we managed to bring the car to the end of the race yet I had difficulties in curve 9-10 where every time I had to improvise and do a different thing in order to get some brake balance as it was a different thing every time.I was expecting a lot as we had time to prepare the car for the first race yet we were slowed down a lot because of this braking balance during all the race,it is not the real pace of the car as it is much more but we were slowed down,ended his statement Leclerc.
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Biggest loser in this rwce was Leclerc.  I like the guy but he needs to have some grit and be an asshole on the grid or he'll keep losing his spot...  And in this race, he was losing to his own team mate Carlos Sainz.  It's prolly cos Sainz mad because he was thrown out of the team.  Lol.  

Anyway here are the results of the race.  And would you guys think Ricciardo would've passed Magnusen if Tsunoda allowed Ricciardo to pass him earlier?

2024 F1 Bahrain GP Race Results

Max Verstappen   1:31:44.742   
Sergio Perez   +22.457s   
Carlos Sainz   +25.110s   
Charles Leclerc   +39.669s   
George Russell   +46.788s   
Lando Norris   +48.458s   
Lewis Hamilton   +50.324s   
Oscar Piastri   +56.082s   
Fernando Alonso  +74.887s
Lance Stroll   +93.216s   
Zhou Guanyu   +1 lap   
Kevin Magnussen  +1 lap   
Daniel Ricciardo   +1 lap   
Yuki Tsunoda   +1 lap   
Alexander Albon  +1 lap   
Nico Hulkenberg  +1 lap   
Esteban Ocon   +1 lap   
Pierre Gasly   +1 lap   
Valtteri Bottas   +1 lap   
Logan Sargeant +2 laps
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It was a very smooth win by Verstappen.  Wink  This mustn't have surprised anyone. The surprising part was Perez's showing a really good performance in the race. I'm keen on seeing it more from him to consolidate his place in his seat also. The disappointing part was obviously Leclerc's having a poorer result than the expectations.   Sad

His car was just so problematic and the team couldn't find a solution to the front tyre lock up problem for a long time. This cost Leclerc too much and he had to do an early pit...

I hope this season also doesn't go on like this for Leclerc. He is just so unlucky.
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