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Verstappen's last attempt in Q3 started really badly but his performance in the last sector was really extra. He was nearly capturing the pole position by only a gap of 0.005 sec to Leclerc. But his lap time was deleted due to going out of track limits at Turn 19. This helped Leclerc maintain his place and take the pole position.

But I must admit that it was definitely a deserved pole position for Leclerc. Ferrari are just really good at making good lap times in qualifying. They were well-prepared for this one and Red Bull had a little weakness.

Perez is still a disappointment as he is going to start in 9th place to the race. It is hard to believe that he can climb to podium as he hasn't been convincing for weeks. Sad

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Today's Phillip Island Australia MotoGP race was truly amazing because Jorge Martin made a mistake by using the soft rear tire for 27 laps in fairly sunny weather conditions. So it was very visible that Jorge Martin was starting to slow down since there were five laps left in the race and in the last lap Jorge Martin was overtaken by four riders who were fighting quite fiercely. Among them are Johan Zarco, Pecco Bagnaia, Fabio Diggia and Brad Binder so Jorge Martin is very sorry and angry because he cannot maintain his first position for today's race.

Tomorrow in the Sprint Race Jorge Martin will definitely be desperate to get the win on better tires because today it was a mistake for him to use the rear tire so he wasn't able to keep it well enough until the end of the race. Previously, I also wondered why Jorge Martin, who had already made a gap of more than three seconds, started to slow down when there were a few laps left in the race. It turned out that his mistake was truly fatal because he not only lost the podium, but also lost points that he could have gotten more from in the top five positions.

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Well looks like Verstappen was not able to get to the pole yesterday night with European time,Leclerc,Hamilton,Norris were both there with Leclerc finishing first in the qualifying.It looks like Verstappen appetite is going down little by little as I highly doubt he will be able to win the race tomorrow.

Anyway this starting grid promises for a good race unless Verstappen didn't care much for the qualifying as he knows in the race is a completely different thing and he is not that behind 0.37 seconds is nothing that cannot be recovered in the race.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 19, 2023, 05:01:24 PM

he's back.

It is official, Riccardo will be back in the car this week.

After the incident he got 1 month ago he will finally be back.

In this qualifying session he managed to get a seat and finish in P15, well it wasn't a good performance but it was quite good because he managed to out perform Albon, Alonso and Stroll. I hope that in the next race session he can get a good position.

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F1 increased the limit of the fine that drivers can get.

It is 1 million now.

It is important to notice that some drivers can't afford to pay it with their salary.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 19, 2023, 02:22:14 PM

Everybody want to stop seeing Stroll on F1, i hope next year he is not more between the 20 drivers of the grid, he have so many chances to show us and the world how good he is, and he never sho anything good, the only one time when he show some quality was in that Turkish Gp.

I kinda feel for the guy. He's a poor little rich boy, prolly being pressured by his dad to excel in something. But even with all the support and all the money being poured on him to give him some sort of advantage, he still turned out to be a mediocre driver. Alonso out performed him this season and I think Vettel did the some in the season prior... :/

He prolly should just quit and just be a regular guy, getting drunk and go out with girls. It's getting pretty clear that he's not happy with F1 anymore.

Then again, I'd like him to stay for the lulz... Esp after losing Latifi. Cheesy

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A storm is ongoing in Australia.

They completely changed the schedule for the weekend.

The race will be tomorrow, and the sprint the day after. Huh

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 20, 2023, 03:36:49 AM

Martin, Baganai and Bezzecchi are simply the fastest at the moment and it's the little things that make the difference, but in Philip Island the weather can change quickly and as a rider you also have to deal with the wind.

Due to the presumably strong wind on Sunday, the race has now been moved to Saturday, here is the official announcement.

https://www.motogp.com/de/news/2023/10/20/zeitplananderungen-fur-den-australien-gp-angekundigt/480574

I have also read the schedule changes on the official MotoGP website between the Main Race and the Sprint Race, where the Main Race will be held tomorrow and the Sprint Race on Sunday. And it looks like this will be a bit of a surprise for the riders at the top because Jorge Martin will definitely try to get 25 points in tomorrow's main race by trying to set the best time in FP2 and qualifying. Because today's Practice session was dominated by the KTM duo (one of whom was the host rider) followed by Vinales from the Aprilia manufacturer.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 19, 2023, 11:57:28 PM

Jorge Martin again succeeded in being the fastest with a very good time in the FP1 MotoGP Phillip Island Australia session and soon the Practice session will also start again with very sunny weather conditions so that it will allow all riders to perform as well as possible in order to place themselves in Q1 and I will see if Bezzecchi and Bagnaia can perform well in this session. Apart from that, the scenery in Australia is always quite beautiful and can also spoil the eyes.

Martin, Baganai and Bezzecchi are simply the fastest at the moment and it's the little things that make the difference, but in Philip Island the weather can change quickly and as a rider you also have to deal with the wind.

Due to the presumably strong wind on Sunday, the race has now been moved to Saturday, here is the official announcement.

https://www.motogp.com/de/news/2023/10/20/zeitplananderungen-fur-den-australien-gp-angekundigt/480574

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Jorge Martin again succeeded in being the fastest with a very good time in the FP1 MotoGP Phillip Island Australia session and soon the Practice session will also start again with very sunny weather conditions so that it will allow all riders to perform as well as possible in order to place themselves in Q1 and I will see if Bezzecchi and Bagnaia can perform well in this session. Apart from that, the scenery in Australia is always quite beautiful and can also spoil the eyes.

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he's back.

It is official, Riccardo will be back in the car this week.

After the incident he got 1 month ago he will finally be back.

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Stroll has mentioned his interest in tennis before. I recommend him to go after his passion. Grin

Who knows maybe he would be more successful in that sport.

It looks like it will be quite difficult for Aston Martin to keep the 4th place against McLaren in the remaining races. Because there has been a huge improvement in McLaren's performance. They are standing strong with both of their drivers recently. Alonso will try to carry his team in these races by himself probably. He will just hope that McLaren drivers have bad races from now on.

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Everybody want to stop seeing Stroll on F1, i hope next year he is not more between the 20 drivers of the grid, he have so many chances to show us and the world how good he is, and he never sho anything good, the only one time when he show some quality was in that Turkish Gp.

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Track: Circuit of the Americas, Austin Texas, USA

And I think it's high time the books allow the same event parlays for F1.

This is a great track for a sprint race.
Just ban Verstappen and it will be a great weekend to watch

That or the other teams should pick up the slack and actually make their car faster. They pay millions on engineers ffs. Can't they just give the fans a competitive car? It's not Red Bull and Newey's fault that they're doing a good job in designing a fast car. And isn't making a great, fast car the whole point of F1?

I mean yeah, Alpha Romeo, Haas and the smaller teams prolly should be given a break and we shouldn't expect too much. But Ferrari and Mercedes? No excuse.

I agree,it is not the fault of a great driver who has refused better teams and stayed at Redbull even when Redbull was not at all dominating the Championship,I give credit to him for the loyalty given to Redbull which has been rewarded with 3 consecutive World Titles.I liked him when he said after winning his first title via radio "Let's do this for another ten years together" which again showed great belief in the team.

I also agree with the fact that Ferrari and Mercedes has absolutely no excuses when it comes to their budget and I would also add one of the oldest and successful teams of F1 history which they hold the fastest ever world record pit stop,McLaren also has no excuses.

Yup, def McLaren should be in that list of teams that should start picking up the slack. They're making the sport boring for the fans by not finding ways to get up to speed in car development as Red Bull. And the funny thing is, the fans of the other teams itt blame the FIA, blame Red Bull instead of blaming their own team for not doing a good job.

And, yeah I like Red Bull and Verstappen, Vettel, Horner, Newey, Ricciardo, etc, etc... But if they suck, you see me laugh about it too. So to everybody, just lighten up and don't get too wound up about it.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 19, 2023, 06:30:06 AM

Quote from: karabiber on October 19, 2023, 05:41:48 AM

After a good start to the season but a disappointing end, the Aston Martin team is bringing new updates to the car for the United States GP. Aston Martin fell out of the podium battle as the season progressed and now they are trying to get back on track. I think they lost this year and i think with the updates Aston Martin will have a better start to the year and will fight well throughout the season. They are still spending time in the middle of the season with updates to build a good car for next year. Also, the updates have worked very well on the simulator data, and they could be the second strongest team at the United States GP and even win here if everything goes well.

Aston Martin have had some ups and downs during this season. But generally Alonso's performance has been really solid. He has done his best to get the most of his car in every race. Stroll has been holding back this team for a long time honestly. He has been making really simple mistakes. Alonso has literally had full responsibility to bring points to his team.

I think even Stroll's father started to think of replacing him with some other driver permanently. Grin

By the way Stroll doesn't look like he will race in the United States GP. Because I have seen some ads which put Drugovich in his place for this race weekend.

I think that no one really cares if Stroll will race or not except maybe his girlfriend Grin

.As you say he has brought nothing to the table and even when he was racing in Force India and had a near win in Turkey he could not keep his performance consistently and that is the reason why he does not perform well,of course having your father as a comfort whatever happens most probably impacted him for the bad and not for the good like it did with Verstappen,sure Jost Verstappen has no team of his own but still can impact a few things in F1 for you when it comes to choosing the right team and as such no one gives a damn about a second Perez I would call Stroll.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 19, 2023, 06:30:06 AM

Quote from: karabiber on October 19, 2023, 05:41:48 AM

After a good start to the season but a disappointing end, the Aston Martin team is bringing new updates to the car for the United States GP. Aston Martin fell out of the podium battle as the season progressed and now they are trying to get back on track. I think they lost this year and i think with the updates Aston Martin will have a better start to the year and will fight well throughout the season. They are still spending time in the middle of the season with updates to build a good car for next year. Also, the updates have worked very well on the simulator data, and they could be the second strongest team at the United States GP and even win here if everything goes well.

Aston Martin have had some ups and downs during this season. But generally Alonso's performance has been really solid. He has done his best to get the most of his car in every race. Stroll has been holding back this team for a long time honestly. He has been making really simple mistakes. Alonso has literally had full responsibility to bring points to his team.

I think even Stroll's father started to think of replacing him with some other driver permanently. Grin

By the way Stroll doesn't look like he will race in the United States GP. Because I have seen some ads which put Drugovich in his place for this race weekend.

I do think all the results of Aston Martin are backed up by Alonso in proportion of 90% because without him , Lance didn't really made a lot.

It's true , they did have a great start of the season followed up by a bad 2nd half of the season where the car really lost speed in the corners and then they lost the chance for a podium and slowly they are about to lose the 4th spot in favor of McLaren.

If you have some free time you can check this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FJTh6_UbR0&t=5s&ab_channel=AstonMartinAramcoCognizantF1Team

I've watched that video and I'm really impressed of how much tech is involved to improve outside circuit an F1 car. Cool

I also think Ferrari and McLaren should give us similar videos in the future because Mercedes did this a while ago.

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Quote from: karabiber on October 19, 2023, 05:41:48 AM

After a good start to the season but a disappointing end, the Aston Martin team is bringing new updates to the car for the United States GP. Aston Martin fell out of the podium battle as the season progressed and now they are trying to get back on track. I think they lost this year and i think with the updates Aston Martin will have a better start to the year and will fight well throughout the season. They are still spending time in the middle of the season with updates to build a good car for next year. Also, the updates have worked very well on the simulator data, and they could be the second strongest team at the United States GP and even win here if everything goes well.

Aston Martin have had some ups and downs during this season. But generally Alonso's performance has been really solid. He has done his best to get the most of his car in every race. Stroll has been holding back this team for a long time honestly. He has been making really simple mistakes. Alonso has literally had full responsibility to bring points to his team.

I think even Stroll's father started to think of replacing him with some other driver permanently. Grin

By the way Stroll doesn't look like he will race in the United States GP. Because I have seen some ads which put Drugovich in his place for this race weekend.

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After a good start to the season but a disappointing end, the Aston Martin team is bringing new updates to the car for the United States GP. Aston Martin fell out of the podium battle as the season progressed and now they are trying to get back on track. I think they lost this year and i think with the updates Aston Martin will have a better start to the year and will fight well throughout the season. They are still spending time in the middle of the season with updates to build a good car for next year. Also, the updates have worked very well on the simulator data, and they could be the second strongest team at the United States GP and even win here if everything goes well.

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Today the MotoGP riders started walking around the Phillip Island circuit in Australia in fairly sunny weather and hopefully it won't rain tomorrow and it will still be sunny like today. Because the MotoGP schedule at the Phillip Island Australia circuit always means I have to wake up very early to be able to see every session from tomorrow to Sunday, but I will try to watch all the sessions because the races at Phillip Island Australia are usually always more exciting and very beautiful.

Last year the race at Phillip Island Australia was won by Alex Rins on a Suzuki motorbike which only had cornering speed, but I don't think that this season Yamaha will take advantage of that to win the race because Ducati also needs to be taken into account at Phillip Island Australia even though last year it only managed to finish in the top three after second place was taken by Marquez.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 18, 2023, 09:58:51 AM

how long are we going to continue to hope that Ferrari will step up because year after year they’re only feeding us excuses and now I’m totally done with their excuses. Furthermore I was hoping that he could join Ferrari and give them a boost but after reading about about his loyalty comments I doubt that he’ll ever even consider joining them.

I am very disappointed with Ferrari this year, I thought they were really making a step forward, but the opposite is true, the strategy mistakes or pit stop mistakes are not being corrected and there is no improvement in sight.

The car isn't really getting any better and I don't think they'll be able to produce a car that's really capable of winning until the big rule change in Formula 1, it's a real shame that Ferrari is acting so sloppily.

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