As recently speculated here, Ducati, KTM and Aprilia are now certain how many of the new 2024 specification bikes will be used.
Ducati and KTM will each have four and Aprilia 3 according to this latest report.
https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/217526/Offiziell-Miguel-Oliveira-bekommt-2024-Werks-Aprilia.html
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December 24, 2023, 01:21:25 PM
December 23, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
Nice! I'm very excited on all different levels from good to bad, from serious to hilarious, from rooting for them to rooting against them. Whatever it may be... Ferrari can't really be ignored. 
I mean I think it's funny when the team fumbles the bag for a race or two. But for Leclerc's sake, please give him a competitive car this time. The team promised to give him one starting at 2024 when he signed a new 5 year contract. Let's hope it won't be 5 years of memes.
I mean I think it's funny when the team fumbles the bag for a race or two. But for Leclerc's sake, please give him a competitive car this time. The team promised to give him one starting at 2024 when he signed a new 5 year contract. Let's hope it won't be 5 years of memes.
We don't have so many new rules so in Theory it should be easier to catch up to Red Bull.
I'm not sayint they will not dominate but teams should be closer this year.
December 23, 2023, 07:25:16 AM
Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
Nice! I'm very excited on all different levels from good to bad, from serious to hilarious, from rooting for them to rooting against them. Whatever it may be... Ferrari can't really be ignored.
I mean I think it's funny when the team fumbles the bag for a race or two. But for Leclerc's sake, please give him a competitive car this time. The team promised to give him one starting at 2024 when he signed a new 5 year contract. Let's hope it won't be 5 years of memes.
December 22, 2023, 05:57:24 PM
Ferrari announced their announce of the annunciation of the car
It will be on 13th February.
2 months and it will start again.
It will be on 13th February.
2 months and it will start again.
December 22, 2023, 09:12:09 AM
With Ducati and the quality drivers that they have, it is definitely going to be hard for the Asian manufacturers to actually give them a big competition. I am starting to think that Ducati is actually going to run away with the competition. Probably no one will actually be able to give them a very good competition. Obviously, there is going to be competition. But it is not going to be that competitive if you know what I mean.
For next season, the Ducati manufacturer will only compete with its own satellite team, even though the Ducati boss himself has also said that the Ducati Gp24 motorbike will be very different from the Ducati Gp23 motorbike that will be used by their own satellite team. Apart from that, recently Asian manufacturers such as Honda have also carried out private tests in Jerez to see the development of the engines they have and the ones they will use next season. Because Honda probably won't create a whole new engine, but will only change a few things in the previous engine to get better performance next season. 
December 21, 2023, 01:25:45 PM
Well at the end of the day, every person is going to be biased to some degree. And the decision of every person is going to be influenced by some things one way or another.
Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
This will indeed be much better for Ducati because the Ducati factory can have more references from the three satellite teams they have like this season. Likewise with next season and the following season because Ducati will not be so difficult to make improvements to their motorbikes in each season, while Asian manufacturers are always several steps behind in that regard so they are starting to find it difficult to compete with European manufacturers, especially with Ducati.Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
With Ducati and the quality drivers that they have, it is definitely going to be hard for the Asian manufacturers to actually give them a big competition. I am starting to think that Ducati is actually going to run away with the competition. Probably no one will actually be able to give them a very good competition. Obviously, there is going to be competition. But it is not going to be that competitive if you know what I mean.
December 21, 2023, 01:24:08 PM
I'm wondering about potential changes for top teams except Red Bull next season. I'm excluding Red Bul from this because it is already obvious how strong they will be. Who knows maybe McLaren can attack really hard against Mercedes and Ferrari this time and manage to be the second most powerful team in the sport. 
I would love to see Norris having a car as fast as the cars of those teams to see his performance at equal standards. He is one of the most talented drivers on the grid now.
Aston Martin started the last season really strongly - especially Alonso. But it didn't take them too long to start going down. I wonder how consistent they will be next season.
Who knows maybe McLaren can attack really hard against Mercedes and Ferrari this time and manage to be the second most powerful team in the sport. I would love to see Norris having a car as fast as the cars of those teams to see his performance at equal standards. He is one of the most talented drivers on the grid now.
Aston Martin started the last season really strongly - especially Alonso. But it didn't take them too long to start going down. I wonder how consistent they will be next season.
December 21, 2023, 12:36:50 AM
Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
I hope ferrari's new car has improved a lot so that it can be fast on the track. and can compete evenly with the powerful redbull car.
The competition if only the winners in one redbull team is not good to enjoy and very boring to watch.
What's more there is no point competition in the world championship because the point gap is always far away.
December 21, 2023, 12:23:46 AM
Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
The launch of a new car that will be displayed by Ferrari next year has many fans waiting to see how it will perform in the next season. Rumors say that the new car will feature more efficiency, a stronger chassis, and many other things that were removed from the previous SF-23 car to improve its performance. And the Ferrari team even said that this car was a revolution, where the team replaced 95% of the components of the car which made it a "brand new car" whose performance could possibly rival the Red Bull car. I'm pretty excited to see how Ferrari's new car performs, let's see if it lives up to what they say or not.
December 20, 2023, 11:00:20 AM
Well at the end of the day, every person is going to be biased to some degree. And the decision of every person is going to be influenced by some things one way or another.
Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
This will indeed be much better for Ducati because the Ducati factory can have more references from the three satellite teams they have like this season. Likewise with next season and the following season because Ducati will not be so difficult to make improvements to their motorbikes in each season, while Asian manufacturers are always several steps behind in that regard so they are starting to find it difficult to compete with European manufacturers, especially with Ducati. Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
December 20, 2023, 09:48:15 AM
Uccio himself a few days ago also expressed his desire to stay at Ducati until 2026 by taking advantage of Ducati's condition in each season. Because the VR46 team is also targeting to become world champion, even though next season they will work with a rider who is not from their own academy, namely Diggiantonio who is filling Luca Marini's seat after leaving for Honda next season. I also think that they still want to stay on Ducati because the reason is quite clear, namely the Champion motorbike, so it's clearly not bad for the championship and it's also not bad not to move to another motorbike.
Well at the end of the day, every person is going to be biased to some degree. And the decision of every person is going to be influenced by some things one way or another.
Anyway, I think you are right. Of course, there is a reason for him to want to stay with Ducati. And for him, it is the right decision, at least in my opinion. But we have to wait and see if this actually works out or not. Isn't it better for Ducati as well?
December 19, 2023, 04:36:02 PM
I believe these situations are only going to be regretted by them if they eventually are not able to perform well in the future. And the thing is nobody knows what will happen in the future. So I believe they should really think about it hard and come up with the decision which they feel is the best. Once they make a decision, they will have to try their best to make sure that it is the best decision that they have made. I do not think Ducati is a bad decision, to be honest. But you never know.
Uccio himself a few days ago also expressed his desire to stay at Ducati until 2026 by taking advantage of Ducati's condition in each season. Because the VR46 team is also targeting to become world champion, even though next season they will work with a rider who is not from their own academy, namely Diggiantonio who is filling Luca Marini's seat after leaving for Honda next season. I also think that they still want to stay on Ducati because the reason is quite clear, namely the Champion motorbike, so it's clearly not bad for the championship and it's also not bad not to move to another motorbike. December 18, 2023, 11:27:38 AM
It turns out that the VR46 team is currently experiencing a very big dilemma in making a decision regarding extending the contract with which manufacturer after 2024. Because they also received offers from several other manufacturers such as Yamaha, but they also still have to consider Ducati motorbikes because in general motorbikes Ducati has more energy to use in competition so there is a dilemma on their part when they want to make new decisions after next season.
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/the-big-dilemma-facing-valentino-rossis-motogp-team-in-2024/10556989/
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/the-big-dilemma-facing-valentino-rossis-motogp-team-in-2024/10556989/
I believe these situations are only going to be regretted by them if they eventually are not able to perform well in the future. And the thing is nobody knows what will happen in the future. So I believe they should really think about it hard and come up with the decision which they feel is the best. Once they make a decision, they will have to try their best to make sure that it is the best decision that they have made. I do not think Ducati is a bad decision, to be honest. But you never know.
December 15, 2023, 05:59:46 PM
Unfortunately I can't get hyped about Ferrari's new car so much. 
Because this scenario is repeating itself every season. They are always claiming that they have a totally different car this time and they will be much more successful. But after the season starts we have the same old Ferrari as always. They need to do something for real to look convincing for people to believe in them.
I don't know maybe they can start with replacing their strategists with better ones. Because I'm afraid they have really poor strategists now that I say even I can do this job much better than them.
Leclerc's race engineer is just horrible. They can find a better one for him who really has good communication skills and who knows what he is doing. Sainz has a much better race engineer than Leclerc and I think it isn't fair.
Because this scenario is repeating itself every season. They are always claiming that they have a totally different car this time and they will be much more successful. But after the season starts we have the same old Ferrari as always. They need to do something for real to look convincing for people to believe in them.I don't know maybe they can start with replacing their strategists with better ones. Because I'm afraid they have really poor strategists now that I say even I can do this job much better than them.
Leclerc's race engineer is just horrible. They can find a better one for him who really has good communication skills and who knows what he is doing. Sainz has a much better race engineer than Leclerc and I think it isn't fair.
Yep, this is F1.
When a team has a dominating car, they will keep winning utile the FIA changes the rules.
It has been always like that.
I can't remember a single time when a winning team lost the title without a change in the regulations.
December 15, 2023, 01:28:38 PM
Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
Unfortunately I can't get hyped about Ferrari's new car so much.
Because this scenario is repeating itself every season. They are always claiming that they have a totally different car this time and they will be much more successful. But after the season starts we have the same old Ferrari as always. They need to do something for real to look convincing for people to believe in them.I don't know maybe they can start with replacing their strategists with better ones. Because I'm afraid they have really poor strategists now that I say even I can do this job much better than them.
Leclerc's race engineer is just horrible. They can find a better one for him who really has good communication skills and who knows what he is doing. Sainz has a much better race engineer than Leclerc and I think it isn't fair.
December 15, 2023, 08:56:25 AM
It turns out that the VR46 team is currently experiencing a very big dilemma in making a decision regarding extending the contract with which manufacturer after 2024. Because they also received offers from several other manufacturers such as Yamaha, but they also still have to consider Ducati motorbikes because in general motorbikes Ducati has more energy to use in competition so there is a dilemma on their part when they want to make new decisions after next season.
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/the-big-dilemma-facing-valentino-rossis-motogp-team-in-2024/10556989/
Source: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/the-big-dilemma-facing-valentino-rossis-motogp-team-in-2024/10556989/
December 14, 2023, 05:34:25 AM
Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
Generally, I am pretty skeptical about how it is going to turn out. Because whenever a new thing is introduced, it generally has a few flaws. But I am pretty sure that they are going to thoroughly test everything. And I hope that they will not cut any corners about the safety of the driver trying to improve and introduce new technology. As always, safety comes first. And I have seen the vehicles get more and more safer for the drivers. But still, work could be done.
December 13, 2023, 05:26:25 PM
Ferrari announced a new car for 2024.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
It will be not a progression of the 2023 car as usually happens.
It will be a new brand project.
December 13, 2023, 04:01:30 PM
Yamaha definitely has the advantage (like Honda) that engine development is not frozen. But like the most here, I doubt that this will be enough. Honda and Yamaha have the following advantages over Ducati, Aprilia and KTM in category D.
Category D
Test tyres: 260
Private tests: Free not only test drivers
Number of GP tracks: no limit
Wildcards: 6
Engines per season: 9 or 10
Engine development not frozen from the start of season
Aero updates: 2
Category D
Test tyres: 260
Private tests: Free not only test drivers
Number of GP tracks: no limit
Wildcards: 6
Engines per season: 9 or 10
Engine development not frozen from the start of season
Aero updates: 2
December 13, 2023, 03:12:57 PM
with only 3 months left, that will be a short time for yamaha to be able to develop their motorbike. even though they get unrestricted testing and free engine development, other manufacturers like ducati are already several steps ahead compared to yamaha. i don't think the help from luca marmorini was very helpful either, considering that they are specialists in f1 and matching with yamaha engines takes more time.
i bet that yamaha's performance will be bad again in the next season.
It would be very wrong if you only looked at three months for motorbike development because that is quite a short time to build a motorbike with competition specs in MotoGP. You should also be able to imagine that Luca Marmorini, who is not often seen in the Yamaha paddock, was tasked with building Yamaha engines to make them better.i bet that yamaha's performance will be bad again in the next season.
Although for now everyone can assume that Yamaha will not be competitive again because Ducati is one step ahead, but try to remember back when Ducati was still not competitive and other Asian manufacturers had taken a step forward in the past. Ducati continues to work with good determination and never gives up on what happened to them before becoming competitive.
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