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Q2 of Sprint Shootout is about to end and out of nowhere Norris took 1st place , followed by Perez and then Max.

Now , we wait for Q3 and I think Norris has a real chance to take Sprint Shootout pole and then maybe even win the Sprint Race later on today.

Aston Martin had another series of problems but this time with Alonso who couldn't even run 1 lap on Q2...and it seems the last update they had in Texas really made the car worse than before.

It was quite crazy how the initially sunny weather turned into dark clouds in just a few minutes. Piastri even almost hit the barrier because he lost grip on his tires. Yeah at least every driver has completed their lap before the race is called.
And it's quite interesting to see Stroll and Alonso in P3 and P4 and Hamilton and Russell in P5 and P6, it looks like it's going to be an interesting battle. And again, Max is in P1 and you can guess who will win the race this time.

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m10.436s   1m10.162s   1m10.727s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m10.472s   1m10.303s   1m11.021s
3   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m10.551s   1m10.375s   1m11.344s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m10.557s   1m10.237s   1m11.387s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m10.604s   1m10.266s   1m11.469s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m10.340s   1m10.316s   1m11.590s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m10.623s   1m10.021s   1m11.987s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m10.624s   1m10.254s   1m11.989s
9   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m10.668s   1m10.219s   1m12.321s
10   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m10.519s   1m10.330s   No Time Set
11   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.475s   1m10.547s   
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m10.763s   1m10.562s   
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m10.793s   1m10.567s   
14   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.602s   1m10.723s   
15   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m10.621s   1m10.840s   
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m10.837s       
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m10.843s       
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m10.955s       
19   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m11.035s       
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m11.275s


Soure https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1040030/1/f1-sao-paulo-grand-prix-2023-qualifying-results

pole position for MAX, this will be one of the best sprint races, this track is awesome for it.

Strange qualifying session now in Brazil.Leclerc said it best,I have never experienced something like this race in my entire career he said,it looked like it was raining but in fact there was no rain at all referring to the track being extremely slid and Verstappen was once again able to grab a Pole Position although he did not made the fastest lap in this last Q3 session.

In Q2 Lando Norris did 1.10.0 while Verstappen won the Pole with a 1.10.727 and he said it himself that it would be very tight and the cars are very close in this track.I think the surprise are Aston Martin with Lance Stroll in P3 and Alonso in P4 after many races screwing up looks like they have fixed a couple of things.

Another race week, this time at Brazil. Looks like it's going to be a pretty tough week, there are some warnings regarding weather situation as well. Telemetry system is one of the most important on weeks like this. Lets see how ferrari and Mercedes will do and if Mclaren can bounce back again. Max is the winner as always even before the week starts I can say that, unless there is like some crash or something.

However, the fun part is that Mclaren is trying to get that third place but Mercedes is not letting them, and the second place is a big fight between ferrari and Mercedes, Mercedes has done very well lately and got the second place, and Mclaren is less than 100 points away from ferrari for third place and very very few races left. I think this is how the first five will finish, but it's fun to see it.

Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.732s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m11.840s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m11.865s
4   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m11.928s
5   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m12.044s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m12.136s
7   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.184s
8   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m12.481s
9   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m12.579s
10   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m12.592s
11   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m12.615s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m12.638s
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m12.714s
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m12.778s
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.779s
16   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m12.793s
17   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m13.012s
18   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m13.056s
19   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m13.629s
20   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m13.838s

1st hour of the 1st session.

https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1039980/1/f1-s-o-paulo-grand-prix-2023-friday-practice-results

Ferrari seems to be very fast.

^  I think Perez's future with Red Bull is already written.  Whatever happens in the last couple or so races, he won't get a new contract after 2024.  He'll have one more season and that's it.

The question now is who'll replace him?  I think everything will depend on how Ricciardo performs next season as he'll be the first choice...  Tsunoda would prolly be considered but then again maybe he'll be leaving Alpha Tauri altogether because we know he was just part of the Honda deal.

Other decent choices are Gasly and Albon but they've already driven at RBR with poor results...  Maybe Alonso?

Edit:  Alonso too old.  Lol.

Perez has 2 more races to keep his spot.

He got a deadline of 3 races, the 1st it's gone with the bad result in Mexico.

Helmut Marko to replace Sergio Perez next season!    It looks like this has been the big news Red Bull have been waiting to announce for a while. 

Joking aside, I don't see a good future for Perez at Red Bull from now on. Yeah maybe Red Bull have still managed to become the constructors champions. However I don't think they are satisfied with Perez's performance at all for a long time. There must be a significant concentration problem for him otherwise he isn't making simple mistakes like this. We must all be remembering how great he was in the 2021 season. His help for Verstappen in the last race of that season was enormous as well.

Because the threat has returned to Bagnaia, in the next series at Sepang Malaysia there will be quite a fierce race because remember that both riders must both be able to win. Even though Jorge Martin's desire to win is to overtake Bagnaia early before the start of the Qatar series, Bagnaia will try to win to maintain himself at the top of the standings.

I just hope that the weather in Sepang can be good enough so that everyone can see the fierce racing there because the Sepang circuit is a circuit that is really liked by MotoGP riders and is also a good circuit on the MotoGP calendar. So I just hope that the conditions are not rainy or wet so that the race can be really exciting for everyone to watch.

Tsunoda could have finished this race in a really good position actually. But instead he made a simple individual mistake which ruined all of his plans. AlphaTauri could have had a fantastic weekend with the help of him as well. Still they had a solid week though thanks to Ricciardo's great drive.

When it comes to Tsunoda's future in this team I think he might not have a bright future here if he doesn't make improvement. If you remember he was really good and consistent at the beginning of the season. Bu it lasted for like 5 races. After that his performance started to drop quite much. To tell the truth his result in the United States GP might have increased his credit but I don't know how much.    I would like to see Lawson finding a permanent seat here in the future.

WE are gonna start to talk about how bad is Yuki Tsunoda? I is only in F1 because of being Japanese and a paid driver for Honda, you can see Lawson and Ricciardo with a car who doesnt  have so much time make way better results than him who is in his second season with the team/car.

martin managed to win the race and get 37 points, which means that the difference between him and bagnaia is only 13 points, which is quite small. from this victory we can see how martin's strategy is starting to work and that it could be a direct threat to bagnaia.

the next race at the sepang circuit will probably be more exciting than this thai race because the difference between martin and bagnaia is only 13 points, which must be utilized carefully by these two racers and one fatal mistake will have a bad impact on their position.

^  After leaving Red Bull all those years ago, I think Ricciardo would def know his place in the team if he comes back.  Just the second driver to support Verstappen and try to win the constructor championship as soon as possible in a season.

Anyway, Perez..  Lmaooo.  I think he over compensated and tried to get a couple of spots up the grid and be in the running for a podium.  It's his home race after all.  :/  Some Mexican fans were furious, they even tried to bear up other Mexicans who were wearing Ferrari shirts. 

Even if Ricciardo manages to get to Redbull next season which I highly doubt it,don't expect miracles from him,he had his golden age and days at Redbull previously and he was always beaten by his team mate at that time Sebastian Vettel.Even in that time Redbull was a dominating car and Ricciardo got nothing good out of it except some victories which is exactly the same case as with Perez right now against Vettel.

I agree though Perez has been doing really bad and he said for yesterday race I wanted to get first in the first corner but I paid a very high price for it.He should be more careful and patient in the last three races and I am sure he will still be driving for Redbull in 2024.

There are still three more series equipped with Sprint races. In general, Jorge Martin is very strong in the Sprint so that a distance of 13 points is quite sacred for Bagnaia if Bagnaia is not too persistent in the remaining three series this season. Bagnaia still needs to win and must always be on the podium in order to maintain his distance from Martin in three more series.

Martin will continue to maintain his consistency in three more series because the distance of 13 points is quite easy for Martin to overtake Bagnaia again in the standings. Now Bagnaia's task is starting to look tough because he really has to be able to handle it well in three more series for this season, Bagnaia has to use all the remaining sprints and main races to prevent himself from being overtaken by Martin.

Maybe your assumption could also be correct, because when Marc can't have fun with his new Ducati motorbike, there is a possibility that he will choose to retire even though he is still not old enough to be a MotoGP rider. Because in general Marc definitely needs time to adapt to a new motorbike, although there may not be much time for Marc to do this.

Perez shouldn't stay at Red Bull for another season absolutely. Because it looks very risky for Red Bull to retain their constructors title. Perez is even under the danger of losing 2nd place to Hamilton as the point difference has been closed by 19 more points after this Grand Prix. Red Bull must be reevaluating their decision about going on with Perez in the 2024 season also.

Perez has started to make very simple mistakes. At the start of this race it was completely his fault that he was DNF. Because Leclerc didn't have anywhere to go there. Perez should have stayed outside and been okay to lose a couple of positions also.

When it comes to Ricciardo's possible performance at Red Bull it is hard to say something for now. I don't know if we would see the same old ambitious Ricciardo again.

Martin has now come close again to 13 points, it definitely remains exciting for us spectators. It's all open.


There is no way the Gresini team could pay Marc's wages, as you write Marc was earning very well at Honda and now probably just wants to know if he is still competitive, if the plan with Ducati doesn't work out I assume he will retire.

Not much they could do in this situation,they thought that the hard tire will start to be faster after some laps and I don't blame them for it,most teams thought the same,only Mercedes and McLaren got the strategy right as they believed in the medium compound which proved to be a winner in the last stint of the race.Ferrari did not make any mistake from this point of view,they opted for the obvious strategy which proved to be wrong for many teams and not only Ferrari so in this race they have no fault in trying what seemed as the best option available at that time.The Safety Car made them lose P2 to Hamilton otherwise they would have got it.

Well, Max wins again which is predictable. But what's interesting is how Daniel managed to finish in P7 with his car. This could be a bad sign for Perez because of his poor performance and Daniel is increasingly optimistic about becoming the second driver for the RBR team.
And Charles he showed a good race but the Ferrari team came up with a bad strategy which made him lose P2 to Hamilton. Yeah, this isn't the first time Ferrari has come up with a duff strategy, but it sure is annoying.