Adrien Newey is one of the greatest car designers in the entire world, in history even, so it's really a very weird feeling to see him build a Red Bull car that seems like the Mercedes one that failed after this new change.
I am not saying that Red Bull will fail, even at testing it looked like they had the best time, so I am not saying this new car is bad, but the question needs to be asked, what did Mercedes failed to do with this design that they had to change it whereas Newey found a way to make it work and insists on this being the car? I feel like he found the problem that Mercedes couldn't find and that's why he made this change, so the result is definitely questioned and we are going to see if it will work as well as he hopes it would.
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February 22, 2024, 12:54:32 PM
February 22, 2024, 05:35:47 AM
This was the results of the first testing session yesterday by the way.
None of us must be surprised to see Verstappen at the top being in very comfortable condition.
Of course there are big gaps between the laps driven for. But I don't think there would be a huge change even in a situation with equal amount of laps. Hamilton and Perez both were out so I can't say anything about them.Ricciardo's performance impressed me but we will see what he can do as of the start of the season officially. It would be lovely to see Racing Bulls (previously named AlphaTauri) continuing to make progress.
February 22, 2024, 05:20:57 AM
Red flag due an hazzard in the track.
Ferrari always lucky needs to change the bottom of the car since they destroyed it.
The test will start again this afternoon with 1 extra hour.
Ferrari always lucky needs to change the bottom of the car since they destroyed it.
The test will start again this afternoon with 1 extra hour.
February 22, 2024, 12:34:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3RJriC_eY
"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.
"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.
the 2024 competition hasn't even started yet, there are already congratulations on the world champion to max vestapen. although redbull this season is definitely without competitors again. maybe still hope that Ferrari is able to develop its car so fast so that this 2024 season there is a competitive competition not only dominated by redbull.
February 22, 2024, 12:15:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3RJriC_eY
"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.
"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.
February 20, 2024, 09:34:24 AM
The fairly hot weather in Qatar today did not make the MotoGP riders complain about continuing to carry out official tests because they all know that now they have to work harder before the season starts. I saw that the top speed produced on the first day was quite balanced and did not have much difference for all MotoGP riders, except for test riders from each manufacturer. Apart from that, I see Davide Brivio in the Aprilia Trackhouse team which will be very good for him and also for the Aprilia Trackhouse team because this experienced man has also brought the Suzuki team to brilliant results in the MotoGP championship in 2020.
February 16, 2024, 04:31:00 PM
New accusation against Horner this time from Holland.
According to them he sent sexual content to a girl and after he tried to buy the silence from her.
According to them he sent sexual content to a girl and after he tried to buy the silence from her.
February 16, 2024, 12:41:32 PM
It really looks like Ducati have not tried to revolutionise the bike this time, as they have sometimes done in previous years, but have improved a very good bike in detail, so it will be a very difficult season for the non-Ducati riders to keep up with the Ducati drivers.
Ducati always has ways to change its motorbikes to make them better because they have many very reliable mechanical engineers so it is quite possible for Ducati to be even faster than last season. However, what is very unfortunate in this case is that the riders do not get the same motorbike specs as the Ducati factory motorbike itself so that those in the two satellite teams apart from Pramac Racing will also have difficulty competing against the Ducati factory motorbike itself.Quote
It might not be enough for Yamaha to fight with Ducati at the front. But it's possible that they have more chances than last year against KTM or Aprilia.
Yamaha is starting to make a little better progress in the official test at Sepang, but in fact Yamaha still has to develop several other important things so that the engine's power and traction can be quite balanced when the motorbike is moving. And it is also hoped that Yamaha engineers will be able to make their motorbikes more suitable for all circuits this season. 
February 16, 2024, 08:50:26 AM
And isn't already Norris tied down with a long term contract with McLaren that ends on 2027 or something? I think the guys here itt has a ball laughing about it a couple of years ago for making such a somewhat dumb decision.
The latest news that I can find seems to suggest he's tied until the end of 2026 at least, so who knows how long exactly the contract is? Not surprised if he extends his contract if his seasons are enjoyable[1]. His decision faces some criticism, or at least questions from analysts though. Some wonder why he's in a rush to renew his contract instead of waiting for a year or so to make sure he gets the best offer, but most of them are only speculation[2]. I'd say he's probably a little bit more than happy with his situation so making a new one is not a big deal. Who knows.[1] https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/68108689
[2] https://www.planetf1.com/news/lando-norris-mclaren-contract-red-bull-mercedes-options
He is happy with how things progressed at the end of the last season for McLaren and I am sure now that he is looking forward to what further improvements McLaren has made to their car.If I were him I would also not care for other offers at the moment and would dream about a real possible first win which I am sure is his greatest first dream looking to fulfill with McLaren.I am sure if such thing happens the renewal will come in no time.
February 16, 2024, 08:42:31 AM
The scuderia ferrari 24 looks good. In fact, it is definitely one of the best 2 vehicles at the moment. The weight problem has been seriously solved and the vehicle paint has not been avoided. If another dominance in the size of the 2023 season does not come, which is already very difficult to happen again, 4-5 races can be won with this car. I hope for leclerc to be second in the championship. maybe even the teams championship can be won. Perez cannot maintain his stability in a hotter competition in competition with pilots such as hamilton, leclerc, sainz, russell, norris. So maybe a team other than red bull can win the teams championship. Ferrari seems the most likely in this case.
February 16, 2024, 08:39:30 AM
And isn't already Norris tied down with a long term contract with McLaren that ends on 2027 or something? I think the guys here itt has a ball laughing about it a couple of years ago for making such a somewhat dumb decision.
The latest news that I can find seems to suggest he's tied until the end of 2026 at least, so who knows how long exactly the contract is? Not surprised if he extends his contract if his seasons are enjoyable[1]. His decision faces some criticism, or at least questions from analysts though. Some wonder why he's in a rush to renew his contract instead of waiting for a year or so to make sure he gets the best offer, but most of them are only speculation[2]. I'd say he's probably a little bit more than happy with his situation so making a new one is not a big deal. Who knows.[1] https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/68108689
[2] https://www.planetf1.com/news/lando-norris-mclaren-contract-red-bull-mercedes-options
February 16, 2024, 08:11:05 AM
^ Oh right... Didn't think about that one. So yeah Red Bull has a way of easing young drivers in before giving them a drive in the senior team. Less pressure and more development for the driver. Kinda like what they're doing to Ricciardo. He's doing the process all over again but as an older driver. :/
And isn't already Norris tied down with a long term contract with McLaren that ends on 2027 or something? I think the guys here itt has a ball laughing about it a couple of years ago for making such a somewhat dumb decision.
And isn't already Norris tied down with a long term contract with McLaren that ends on 2027 or something? I think the guys here itt has a ball laughing about it a couple of years ago for making such a somewhat dumb decision.
February 16, 2024, 06:15:36 AM
Yup def a risk. But if he's really a prodigy and they're willing to put up with the recklessness of youth then I couldn't see why not. Red Bull did it with Verstappen and he got himself in somewhat a lot of dicey spots during his younger years as a driver. But then look at him now, he turned into one of the best drivers F1 has ever seen.
But the pure fan in me wants to see either Alonso or the return of Vettel to take the second drive in Mercedes.
But the pure fan in me wants to see either Alonso or the return of Vettel to take the second drive in Mercedes.
But Verstappen was also in the Junior RedBull Team Toro Rosso for two years before RedBull in 2015 and 2016, so I think it's much easier for a young driver to find his way into Formula 1 because the pressure from the team and the expectations are lower.
Personally, I would like Noris at Mercedes, but McLaren will have a lot against that.
February 16, 2024, 06:02:16 AM
By the way Red Bull's car in 2024 is going to be as above. You can see the differences between the new season and last season too. There aren't many differences though.
The sidepod design has some differences for example. Other than that the colors are the same. There is only some change with the placement of sponsors and that's all.
It looks like the biggest change among top teams was made by Mercedes as their colors are different now. But when it comes to performance probably this will be another year with Red Bull's easy championship.
February 15, 2024, 08:52:43 AM
The Ducati Gp24 for this season seems to be much better than last year's motorbike so I don't feel surprised if Bagnaia was able to set a time record like that at the Sepang test some time ago. However, everyone needs to see how things develop in Qatar because the inaugural MotoGP Series for this season is getting closer.
It really looks like Ducati have not tried to revolutionise the bike this time, as they have sometimes done in previous years, but have improved a very good bike in detail, so it will be a very difficult season for the non-Ducati riders to keep up with the Ducati drivers.
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I was also surprised by the top speed recorded by the Yamaha factory at the Sepang test some time ago, but basically Yamaha still has to improve more for this season and cannot be happy with the top speed score. The reason is that Ducati will definitely make its motorbike speed much better in Qatar later, so Yamaha and other manufacturers still have to work hard before the season starts.
It might not be enough for Yamaha to fight with Ducati at the front. But it's possible that they have more chances than last year against KTM or Aprilia.
February 15, 2024, 07:33:17 AM
Kimi Antonelli is rumored to be the next Mercedes driver in 2025
He is now 17 but a progedy.
He is now 17 but a progedy.
It would be a big risk for Mercedes to give a 17-year-old a place in the works team. What do you think about the possibility of the 17 year old being parked at Williams in the first season, but don't really know which Williams driver could play a role at Mercedes in the meantime?
Yup def a risk. But if he's really a prodigy and they're willing to put up with the recklessness of youth then I couldn't see why not. Red Bull did it with Verstappen and he got himself in somewhat a lot of dicey spots during his younger years as a driver. But then look at him now, he turned into one of the best drivers F1 has ever seen.
But the pure fan in me wants to see either Alonso or the return of Vettel to take the second drive in Mercedes.
February 15, 2024, 05:33:02 AM
To me it looks great the Mercedes,most probably they got back to their old design because they want to give that feeling of thos glorious days to Hamilton which will be in his final season at Mercedes.The liveries of all cars so far look beautiful yet I look more forward to the testing days before the race start in the end of February as they can give us an overview about car performances.
Yeah they must have wanted to bring back the old days to minds. But when it comes to reality I'm not much expectant from Mercedes.
I mean a championship race. Because probably Red Bull domination will continue to be seen during 2024 and 2025 season both. Mercedes' direct opponents are Ferrari and McLaren for now.As I have mentioned McLaren do you think they will be able to be more competitive this season? I would really like them joining the race for the 2nd position in constructor standings.
I think if they at McLaren capitalize well from their data of the end of last season and improved them further they can even have a chance to fight for winning races and why not give us a good fight with Redbull so the races can be more beautiful to watch.
I also think the same for Mercedes as they did not show anything at all during the last season so I doubt they have found all this improvement to the car starting from there,it simply does not make sense.
February 15, 2024, 05:08:10 AM
To me it looks great the Mercedes,most probably they got back to their old design because they want to give that feeling of thos glorious days to Hamilton which will be in his final season at Mercedes.The liveries of all cars so far look beautiful yet I look more forward to the testing days before the race start in the end of February as they can give us an overview about car performances.
Yeah they must have wanted to bring back the old days to minds. But when it comes to reality I'm not much expectant from Mercedes.
I mean a championship race. Because probably Red Bull domination will continue to be seen during 2024 and 2025 season both. Mercedes' direct opponents are Ferrari and McLaren for now.As I have mentioned McLaren do you think they will be able to be more competitive this season? I would really like them joining the race for the 2nd position in constructor standings.
February 14, 2024, 02:58:18 PM
Kimi Antonelli is rumored to be the next Mercedes driver in 2025
He is now 17 but a progedy.
He is now 17 but a progedy.
It would be a big risk for Mercedes to give a 17-year-old a place in the works team. What do you think about the possibility of the 17 year old being parked at Williams in the first season, but don't really know which Williams driver could play a role at Mercedes in the meantime?
February 14, 2024, 02:52:05 PM
The MotoGP tests in Sepang have also come to an end, no surprise the Ducatis are ahead of the Aprilias, Bagnaia has set an absolute new lap record with 1:56.682, and was about 8 tenths faster than the last pole position of 2023.
The Ducati Gp24 for this season seems to be much better than last year's motorbike so I don't feel surprised if Bagnaia was able to set a time record like that at the Sepang test some time ago. However, everyone needs to see how things develop in Qatar because the inaugural MotoGP Series for this season is getting closer.Quote
A big surprise for me was Yamaha's top speed, apparently they found something with the engine after all.
I was also surprised by the top speed recorded by the Yamaha factory at the Sepang test some time ago, but basically Yamaha still has to improve more for this season and cannot be happy with the top speed score. The reason is that Ducati will definitely make its motorbike speed much better in Qatar later, so Yamaha and other manufacturers still have to work hard before the season starts. Jump to: