Topic: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] - page 149. (Read 908613 times)

This is only a workaround for a part of the problem, it doesn't fix it.  Even with this option on the client will spend one-confirmation outputs, which will break again in case of a reorg of one block.  A fix would e.g. use another unique ID, independent of the txid, for internal accounting, notice when a txid has changed for a transaction, and resend transactions which depend on the changed txid.

No, it doesn't.  It is just some tape to hold it better together and make it happen less frequently.

Nope.  Wouldn't make much difference.  Their problem is treating the txid as if the confirmed txid for a transaction will be identical to the txid of the transaction they sent.  And this, incidentally, is the cause of Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind failure as well.  A broken transaction (in that the signature won't get accepted by clients version 0.8 and above) just make the exploit easier because the attacker has more time.

The problem is the same (change of txid confuses clients), the consequences differs between implementations.

"Somebody (or several somebodies) is taking advantage of the transaction malleability issue and relaying mutated versions of transactions. This is exposing bugs in both the reference implementation and some exchange’s software."

"Users of the reference implementation who are bitten by this bug may see their bitcoins “tied up” in unconfirmed transactions; we need to update the software to fix that bug, so when they upgrade those coins are returned to the wallet and are available to spend again."

"As a result, exchanges are temporarily suspending withdrawals to protect customer funds and prevent funds from being misdirected."

More gold at https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=422

I expect this joke under the alias "aantonop" to demand Gavin's resignation from the Bitcoin Foundation as well.  Because the only competent non-clown in Bitcoin is obviously aantonop!  ROFL!

Yes, although "spend unconfirmed change" is ON by default, so the fix is ineffective by default. That probably should become OFF in a later release.

You are right, in that it is unfair that some get to trade, as others do not.  Myself, I use neither kraken nor gox, but kraken is looking good right about now.  But yeah, you are right of course. 

What about those Fiat withdrawls out of the rolling honey -pot tank......?


Nobody got anything in the meantime not even after 6 weeks delay just as those guns work normal...as a

Gay-Boucherie surely implies.. ?

No, because its each exchanges' internal accounting which "strays" from the blockchain, so to speak.  So, they can adjust accordingly, and yes, as Goxies are saying, it takes time.  Many people are having success?  It's just limited for the moment like a dragster or a tank, on the lift, because it has a knock in the engine, but the guns are fine.

How does a carpenter sound a ship?  He hammers on it.  He finds the weak points.  So, the blockchain of BTC is being fixed in such terms.  So, as long as SOMEONE maintains the perfect step in regards to the blockchain and the principles of the satoshi spirit, then the machine rolls forward.

Even after nuke war, people will keep the blockchains going.  The only way to run a good exchange is to be honorable, but stealing the SR wallets was as shitty as in that film Pulp Fiction.  You do not steal wallets, that is bad form.  So, a lot of this recent bs is attached to afghan wars, etc, societies, etc, blah blah blah.  So, be patient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5OHrQYwRac

Mt. Gox is paying out ?   to widows and orphans?   Mr. Bitcoin Market is an complete idiot as always !

first paying 27 % premium for Gox -BTC you couldn´t even withdraw and now he offers a 27 % discount

against Bitstamp Btc....even as they are not to be withdrawn  as well.........when counting their wallets

in the next 72 hours there might be nothing to count anymore

Cheers

Thank you for information. I have a hard time believing that a Norwegian could be a liar. So I wait until Mt.Gox destiny is sealed, at which point it is evident if they have all the bitcoins or not. Even if they do have them, they are still criminals in my book based on their past actions, some of which I have divulged in this thread. If they don't, you will have to admit that you were wrong all the time, leading others to destruction. At that point there will certainly be investigation on your role also.

All I want is to root out the evil from Bitcoin. I am not accepting any compensation from anyone for my losses caused by Gox crimes, unless the widows and orphans share the same pool prorated. I also hope that you cease to call them "useful idiots" solely on the grounds that their trust on the Foundation-Endorsed Market Leader has been obscenely exploited.

I'm sayin that since you still have enough dignity NOT to be a thief, then you're okay in my book.

Everyone should have "a book" in which people are either good or bad.  Like Santa, knowmsayin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWesxME9Cto&list=PL7B64C0AC7DE05636&feature=player_detailpage

Lolz i have a hard time understanding you. Are you saying giving people the ability to withdraw while denying others to do so and having those that can withdraw rape those that can't is the way to function? Maybe you are being incredibly sarcastic and my ability to be jovial or joke  has been affected during this ordeal. I am guessing its the latter. :/ 

I vote your attitude bolded above as the best way to have a functioning cooperation.

If i was getting .50 on 1 dollar and withdrawing like the plus 1 man i would love gox too i don't know if I could be scummy enough to do that if i had the chance though. If gox wasn't the dishonest company they are plus 1 man wouldn't have the opportunity to commit these dishonest and imo criminal acts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiie_zmSr8

I don't have any selective withdraw privileges.  Mine are the same as those of any other verified user.

Using what I have learned by experience and by filtering useful information from public fora over many years to have a greater chance to succeed when I try to withdraw is not the same as selective withdraw privileges.  Not all my attempts were successful, btw.  I made a number of 10 BTC withdrawals.  Some were successful, some not.  I did it at a time when I had reason to expect a higher success rate, based on public information and my own experience. 

In this case people came to #mtgox and complained about an error message which usually means the bitcoin address entered in the withdrawal form is invalid or indicates an empty hot wallet at MtGox.  This was at the middle of the night Tokyo time, and I knew they would fill up first thing in the morning.  After a couple hours the reports stopped coming, and this would be the sweet spot.  Hot wallet refreshed with old unspent inputs which most likely would be chosen first.  They don't keep dust in their cold wallets, so I could choose a reasonable withdrawal size as well.

No special privileges or access to restricted information needed.  Everything is out in the open for everyone to learn.  I am certainly not the only one unaffiliated with MtGox who used this trick.  The fresh inputs went very quickly.  My only fault here is telling you about it.

At least MtGox credited my failed withdrawals back to my account.  The 8 BTC withdrawal I made from Bitstamp this morning is still listed as "Finished", but nothing arrived, nothing credited back and support are quiet.  AFAIK Bitstamp has no IRC support either.

quality 

I am disgruntled that "justice" system is integrated with criminals in the way you described. U.S. system might function well but it has so little to do with plain old justice that a rename might be in order.

In my case I bought at 25 percent markup on jan 27  recieved 1.1 bitcoin for 1100 when 1 bitcoin was going for 780.  Since that time gox has held my money hostage and i have watched 1100 shrink to 600 usd thanks to a crooked exchange that is holding my money ransom and will not allow me to withdraw for 3d week counting. mtgox will most likey come up with a solution when bitcoin is at 200 or lower. I am resting assured that my coin is safe on gox as bitcoin drops lower and lower every day.

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Why don't the exchanges simply employ their very own miner to exclusively verify their own withdrawal transactions either before or at the same instant they are submitted to the bitcoin network thereby eliminating any timeframe in which malleability can take place?

What am I missing here?