MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] - page 62.

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Quote from: roslinpl on March 13, 2014, 06:29:51 AM

Quote from: eztezt on March 13, 2014, 03:22:54 AM

At this time on blockchain there are a lot of 50 BTC movements

for example
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/15KK9BhxXFe7RFM4c4TX7P68ErrnzRfndY

and if go back you will see that all of them comes from 200 K mtgox account

hmm not really provable.
I did went back to the beggining and it is not an mtGox wallet or there is no proof that it is.

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Quote from: eztezt on March 13, 2014, 03:22:54 AM

At this time on blockchain there are a lot of 50 BTC movements

for example
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/15KK9BhxXFe7RFM4c4TX7P68ErrnzRfndY

and if go back you will see that all of them comes from 200 K mtgox account

hmm not really provable.
I did went back to the beggining and it is not an mtGox wallet or there is no proof that it is.

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At this time on blockchain there are a lot of 50 BTC movements

for example
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/15KK9BhxXFe7RFM4c4TX7P68ErrnzRfndY

and if go back you will see that all of them comes from 200 K mtgox account

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Another point, not to give false hopes or try to glorify Mark:

With the official statement about the "missing" bitcoins possible not being an attempt to "steal" anything, or cover up their own incompetence only.

Could it be considered a move to keep control over the coins to hedge against price changes?

Mark is in a situation where they can't know the official position of Japanese law or the value of their bitcoins when the score is settled.

Could it be that Mark is still legally in control of our coins, claiming the right to sell and buy as he pleases to preserve as much as possible of customers assets?
He is still the CEO of the company and probably able to suggest financial dispositions to the court appointed overseers.

If that's the case, he is more or less set up as he pleases, without customers withdrawing funds and the court talking its time while protecting him from lawsuits.

Does anyone know Japanese bankruptcy laws well enough to tell me if it is possible to strike such a deal in secret, maybe on reasons of not causing more panic or influencing the market, or is this a totally speculative bonkers suggestion? Are frozen, or held up, customer funds considered an asset under Gox's control until Gox's fate is determined?

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Quote from: eztezt on March 12, 2014, 09:05:43 AM

I searched some gox addresses and I saw this
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q?offset=20050&filter=1
2011-12-06 17:14:38
is the mos important withdraw
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1Cj5kAeGK5CQSubY1Bk6HbGdweq15eJtH9

And splitted Here
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1M1ZkWpHfuQthji2AVsGDvpfY2PrcXQar6

Lots of them didn't come back

It's a big scam. Mark or someone close to him is moving the btc.

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I searched some gox addresses and I saw this
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q?offset=20050&filter=1
2011-12-06 17:14:38
is the mos important withdraw
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1Cj5kAeGK5CQSubY1Bk6HbGdweq15eJtH9

And splitted Here
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1M1ZkWpHfuQthji2AVsGDvpfY2PrcXQar6

Lots of them didn't come back

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Can somebody explain to me
in a frozen account how can it be happen

https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1CHAAtG2pPZJNhh3VwwxHwt7gBRGrUHVQf

if you go back in blockchain
you can see the 200 k Address

http://www.coinsight.org/mtgox/

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Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on March 10, 2014, 12:20:42 PM

Explain to me how they were able to get BTC out off Mt.Gox with it not showing in the blockchain? Were is the evidence of Bitcoin withdrawals?

Good question. All transfer of btc ownership does show up in the blockchain, unless you have the private keys, and just give them to someone else, then there will be no evidence on the blockchain until the new owner moves them. The risk of the giver retaining the keys after giving them to the third party however, means the third party is likely to move the coins right away, wich will show up in the block-chain.

Big chunks of btc not moving indicates that the private keys are either lost, or retained, and the one controlling them haven't bothered about moving them.

I will just add that I have absolutely no trust in the Japanese legal system to sort this out in a honest and trustworthy way. Most likely the btc-part of the heist won't even be touched upon in Japan.

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/11/mt_gox_opponents_win_freeze_on_assets/

"We view this as a big victory, this is often something that would take months to do," Dore told us.

Hahaha, fuckin lawyers. It's three months after the worst theft in history, and they finally move in such feeble terms (court filing) and they call it a "big victory".

Wow. Their whole cadre is just a useless thing on this planet.

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Quote from: eztezt on March 11, 2014, 04:14:47 AM

Heyyyy

I Found This Address Do Fallow And Back Fallow You will Suprise

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1GwCJQyYKdRi4VEGY9Eu9HLsuk1RsK78Qt

It's one of those addresses, which is part of a series of addresses that were created by splitting 60/40 from 180k btc. Last week.

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Quote from: eztezt on March 11, 2014, 04:14:47 AM

Heyyyy

I Found This Address Do Fallow And Back Fallow You will Suprise

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1GwCJQyYKdRi4VEGY9Eu9HLsuk1RsK78Qt

English, please?

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Heyyyy

I Found This Address Do Fallow And Back Fallow You will Suprise

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1GwCJQyYKdRi4VEGY9Eu9HLsuk1RsK78Qt

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Quote from: chocomav on March 10, 2014, 04:24:37 AM

Interesting Techcrunch article:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/09/mt-gox-hack-allegedly-reveals-bitcoin-balances-customer-account-totals/

According to the article:

Anonymous hackers have defaced Mt.Gox CEO Mark Karpeles’ blog and have uploaded a data dump of customer data that, according to users with accounts on the site, is accurate. A Reddit user created an Excel spreadsheet [mirror] of anonymized user accounts with balances, and many current Mt.Gox users have found their balances present.

The text of the post reads [NSFW]:

*** SAVE THIS POST, MIRROR THE FILES, REPOST, SHARE AND KEEP THIS DATA AVAILABLE ***

http://blog.magicaltux.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/MtGox2014Leak.zip

http://89.248.171.30/MtGox2014Leak.zip

First and foremost, this is not Mark Karpeles. Fuck that bitch-titted motherfucker.
It’s time that MTGOX got the bitcoin communities wrath instead of Bitcoin Community getting Goxed. This release would have been sooner, but in spirit of responsible disclosure and making sure all of ducks were in a row, it took a few days longer than would have liked to verify the data.
Above you will finding download link and a mirror used without asking from Mark Karpeles very own blog.magicaltux.net.
Included in this download you will find relevant database dumps, csv exports, specialized tools, and some highlighted summaries compiled from data. Keeping in line with fucking Gox alone, no user database dumps have been included.
Repost and share this info before it’s gone. Lots of people, including us, lost money and coins. Upvote this post.
We stole no bitcoins. There were none to steal. If you want to donate, you can keep us full of pizzas and beers by sending coins here, 1859rayqN1X7DYjD1BrAHm4vaQxoUhhzsN .
Balance SUM for ALL USERS by currency.
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
Currency: AUD Balance: 924,124.65121
Currency: BTC Balance: 951,116.21905382 <– That fat fuck has been lying!!
Currency: CAD Balance: 320,184.36558
Currency: CHF Balance: 99,487.07308
Currency: CNY Balance: 297,775.78994
Currency: DKK Balance: 112,264.56207
Currency: EUR Balance: 5,634,625.59531
Currency: GBP Balance: 921,892.96793
Currency: HKD Balance: 740,519.14894
Currency: JPY Balance: 384,885,150.13700
Currency: NOK Balance: 91,346.00305
Currency: NZD Balance: 58,224.95320
Currency: PLN Balance: 1,645,194.67364
Currency: RUB Balance: 551,162.54477
Currency: SEK Balance: 15,335.84383
Currency: SGD Balance: 43,193.59706
Currency: THB Balance: 666,464.33497
Currency: USD Balance: 30,611,805.67481
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
Total BTC Deposits: 19,065,241.307202
Total BTC Withdrawl: 18,563,466.149383
————————————
BTC Difference: 501,775.157819
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]

The most important number, obviously, is the 951,116.21905382 balance. As you recall, Mt.Gox filed for bankruptcy while stating a 850,000 BTC loss. This would suggest Karpeles’ estimates were off by a large margin. Whether all of this is accurate or not is an entirely different manner. What the leak does show us is how easy it was to grab nearly all of Mt.Gox’s user data as well as how hardened Karpeles’ blog was. Furthermore, the files contain the app Mt.Gox admins used to manage transfers. A screenshot appears below.

Who hacked Mt.Gox? The leak contains some clues. A visit to the above-mentioned mirror brings a link to the zip file and a note: “I hated working with you. You deserve everything you get for what you did.”

He is not off by a large margin. There were about 80.000 BTC in suspicious or hacked accounts that were not counted.
That is what is causing the difference.

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Quote from: papamoi on March 10, 2014, 06:44:24 AM

an interting article on karpeles

http://www.dailytech.com/Bitcoin+King+Pt+II+Mt+Goxs+Dictator+Karpels+Proves+Tragically+Flawed/article34452.htm

Interesting ... but reading articles about this guy is wasting of time.

Mark K. is not worth my time Grin

Anyway thanks for the link.

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Should have went for the deluxe installation which includes a farraday cage around the brain stem... WORTH EVERY PENNY!

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This just in: Television broadcasts still 100% dominated with know-nothings and non-news. Thank God for the forums, eh?

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Quote from: lightfoot on March 10, 2014, 01:02:39 PM

Quote from: itsunderstood on March 09, 2014, 05:00:06 AM

Quote from: Luno on March 09, 2014, 03:36:33 AM

Tinfoil hats are in reality made of Aluminium foil! They are just called tin foil hats to confuse conspiracy nuts.

Oh great, apply logic if you will, but the point is to ensure metal hat of some kind. I myself use a tin pot, lined with aluminum. And since I never trusted Gox, it worked.

Lame. Those of us *in the know* have had our foil surgically implanted between the scalp and skull. It allows us to work unseen and undetected and provides a cool crinkly sound when we wear our fez hats.

C
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i got the upgrade installed, fully rubber lined in case of lightning strikes, and it reduced the fez-fuzz. you should look into it.

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Quote from: itsunderstood on March 09, 2014, 05:00:06 AM

Quote from: Luno on March 09, 2014, 03:36:33 AM

Tinfoil hats are in reality made of Aluminium foil! They are just called tin foil hats to confuse conspiracy nuts.

Oh great, apply logic if you will, but the point is to ensure metal hat of some kind. I myself use a tin pot, lined with aluminum. And since I never trusted Gox, it worked.

Lame. Those of us *in the know* have had our foil surgically implanted between the scalp and skull. It allows us to work unseen and undetected and provides a cool crinkly sound when we wear our fez hats.

C
:-)

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