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hero member
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February 27, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
This thread needs to be closed or at least changed from [GATHERING] to [CLOSED]

Its time to move on .......

sr. member
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American1973
February 27, 2014, 08:30:41 PM
Anyone have an opinion on this?  Someone on reddit claims to have linked the 2011 Gox reserves confirmation transactions to addresses currently holding 200,000BTC
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z3cni/proofs_that_gox_have_at_least_200k_btc/

Sounds plausible, but if the leaked document is accurate, Gox has over 700K BTC in liabilities (and just 2K in its hot wallet).

It is pretty funny that they had less in their hot wallet than many customers had in Gox itself.

Sad.
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American1973
February 27, 2014, 08:29:36 PM
lot of people are unfortunately in the denial stage of all this

Yo donk my brother, are you on any conspiracy research forums?

I am.  I have many names but they all know me.

This forum is like the wading pool, in terms of true knowledge.
legendary
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February 27, 2014, 08:22:56 PM
lot of people are unfortunately in the denial stage of all this

Not sure who you're meaning here, but personally leaning towards believing the recent reddit theory..getting my tinfoil hat ready as I speak.
So saying tho, I don't think the US Govt has any great habit of returning seized funds. So I'm inclined to believe that they are willing to screw over all of the customers in order to bring down the SR guy & also anyone else in their site. Which if rumor is correct, also incl Karpeles.
legendary
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February 27, 2014, 08:13:11 PM
lot of people are unfortunately in the denial stage of all this
legendary
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February 27, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
Anyone have an opinion on this?  Someone on reddit claims to have linked the 2011 Gox reserves confirmation transactions to addresses currently holding 200,000BTC
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z3cni/proofs_that_gox_have_at_least_200k_btc/

Sounds plausible, but if the leaked document is accurate, Gox has over 700K BTC in liabilities (and just 2K in its hot wallet).
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February 27, 2014, 07:19:41 PM
Only 99,996 votes to go Wink

Who the ef are the 4, I wonder. I'd like to look them in the eyes Smiley

Sen. Joe Manchin and 3 of his aides.
sr. member
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February 27, 2014, 06:57:31 PM

Is the sending address a known Gox address? If not it means nothing because anyone cant send coins to it.

To the multitude of smarter folk out there am I right or wrong?

Edit: Smarter or in this case smarter and fast at typing folk. Dang beat me to it.
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February 27, 2014, 06:57:12 PM

Right, anyone could have sent that amount to that address.

Best regards,
ilpirata79
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February 27, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
The fact that he moved in one time that very big amount of bitcoins suggests that the procedures mtgox was using were not very good. All of those bitcoins on a SINGLE ADDRESS and moved in one time? What if you make a mistake or lose that single private key??

He fucked all up really badly...

Best regards,
ilpirata79
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February 27, 2014, 06:38:55 PM


[...]

 it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.

Then, having exported paper wallet, accidentally cleant up a coffee spill with it.
Now he's probably letting the cat type random chars to perform a brute force attack on his BIP38 key.

Not a bad Idea I got more faith in the cat right now than mark.
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February 27, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Anyone have an opinion on this?  Someone on reddit claims to have linked the 2011 Gox reserves confirmation transactions to addresses currently holding 200,000BTC
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z3cni/proofs_that_gox_have_at_least_200k_btc/

Very possible. Just check the blockchain, there are multiple addresses holding 50k coins just a couple of hops away from the 2011 transaction. Doesn't look like a theft at all, coins have been static for almost 3 years and they were not mixed in any way, it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.

there is no proof, the 550k transaktion even belongs to MtGox! my theory is, he just fucked up big time! got hacked/lost the keys/accidently sent the coins into black hole/what ever...  and is to embarrassed to say so and just brought up malleability as an excuse.

or thats what is going on:

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1z2xo5/speculation_the_us_government_has_control_of_goxs/

i don't really believe it but would be very happy if there is some truth to it! might be the last and final hope for all my many goxCoins
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February 27, 2014, 06:22:12 PM


[...]

 it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.

Then, having exported paper wallet, accidentally cleant up a coffee spill with it.

I'm laughing and crying at the same time Grin Cry Grin
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American1973
February 27, 2014, 06:13:25 PM


[...]

 it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.

Then, having exported paper wallet, accidentally cleant up a coffee spill with it.
legendary
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February 27, 2014, 06:10:44 PM
The consensus here, as far as I can tell, seems to be that they won't ever open up any form of BTC or fiat withdrawals? All fiat deposited at Gox now will probably be used to pay Mark's legal bills?
That's why I've been arguing for putting Mt. Gox into involuntary bankruptcy in Japan. Someone in the legal forum is gearing up to do that.

Once that happens, a court-appointed receiver takes over control of all assets. Then, with full access to all Mt. Gox records, there's more hope of finding the "missing" Bitcoins. They're somewhere. With the FBI, the Tokyo Metropolitan Police, the Chief Cabinet Secretary of Japan, and the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York all asking questions, they might well be recovered.

It took a while, but over half of what Madoff stole has been recovered.

quote about half of what madoff stole has been recoevered

Here's a bit of info on that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_of_funds_from_the_Madoff_investment_scandal

"There have been attempts for the recovery of funds from the Madoff investment scandal. Approximately $5.868 billion has been distributed to victims of Bernard Madoff through the agency of trustee Irving Picard."
"most victims will only receive roughly 34 percent of what Madoff stole, with only a handful being made whole"

We need Picard!



Some of that was clawbacks from investors that were belived to redraw investments and profits from Madoff unlawfully (knowing that he was insolvent).

Edit: Effectively, the losses were spread over more people than the eventual bagholders, but it was losses anyway.

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Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino
February 27, 2014, 06:01:13 PM

Another surprise I noticed I received pending JPY withdrawal just 2 days ago 25 FEB. So all my pending cash withdraw requests have been cleared. However still a few BTC remains in the account book but maybe not in the blockchain ledger  Embarrassed

Considering several BTCs sold price around 900USD in January, maybe I should be lucky in the last moments.

It just reminded me the last moments of cyberrebate.com, which I used for everything for free after 100% rebate bankrupted in 2001 or 2002.


Current status:

BTC : suspended (Several pending requests processed)
EUR : 6 weeks- (SEPA) Suspended (Several pending requests processed)
JPY : 35 Calendar days Suspended (Several pending requests processed)

SWIFT Wire transfer is in congestion.
USD : 4 month or more (shorter if you pay 5% extra) up to 7 months Supended
GBP : 3 month or more (better use SEPA conversion) Suspended
CAD : 3 month or more (5% extra works as well?) Suspended


Surprisingly I received the cash withdrawal requested on Jan15 today Feb19  Cheesy
I won't convert btc to cash under this circumstance, though another one still pending after being confirmed.


Current status:

BTC : 0-5 days suspended
EUR : 6 weeks- (SEPA)
JPY :  8days (JNB) - 25 Calendar days (other Japanese banks)35 Calendar days

SWIFT Wire transfer is in congestion.
USD : 4 month or more (shorter if you pay 5% extra) up to 7 months
GBP : 3 month or more (better use SEPA conversion)
CAD : 3 month or more (5% extra works as well?)
sr. member
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February 27, 2014, 05:34:48 PM
Anyone have an opinion on this?  Someone on reddit claims to have linked the 2011 Gox reserves confirmation transactions to addresses currently holding 200,000BTC
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z3cni/proofs_that_gox_have_at_least_200k_btc/

Very possible. Just check the blockchain, there are multiple addresses holding 50k coins just a couple of hops away from the 2011 transaction. Doesn't look like a theft at all, coins have been static for almost 3 years and they were not mixed in any way, it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.

Closest we have come to evidence of anything other than Mark is a fat guy with aspergers and no one can get their money out of Gox.

I don't even see this as good news because if its true and that is Gox's and the IRC chats are not fake it would be a good assumption that the fucker has forgotten the pass or lost the dam key.  Cry  Edit: or was hacked back in 2011 and those are not his.

Still a lot of assumptions and still no concrete evidence.

Wish he would just tell us/ be allowed to tell us.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
February 27, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
So that domain change rumour mentioned before from MtGox to Gox.com
Gathering Online X
Sounds like a porn site Tongue
legendary
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February 27, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
Anyone have an opinion on this?  Someone on reddit claims to have linked the 2011 Gox reserves confirmation transactions to addresses currently holding 200,000BTC
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z3cni/proofs_that_gox_have_at_least_200k_btc/

Very possible. Just check the blockchain, there are multiple addresses holding 50k coins just a couple of hops away from the 2011 transaction. Doesn't look like a theft at all, coins have been static for almost 3 years and they were not mixed in any way, it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.
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