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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 342. (Read 661499 times)

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Or something like this Smiley



This is called The four harmonious friends. The story fits our values,

Once in a forest in Varanasi, four animals, an elephant, a rabbit, a monkey and a bird (partridge) disputed about the ownership of a tree where all of them happened to come to feed on. The elephant claimed it was his because he saw it first. The monkey said that it was his because he had been feeding on the fruits of the tree. The rabbit claimed it was his because he had been feeding on the dew of the leaves on the tree when it was a small sapling. The partridge who had been watching the argument said that the tree belonged to it because the tree wouldn't have grown if it had not spit out the seed from the fruit it had eaten.

The elephant, monkey and rabbit all then bowed to the partridge and regarded it as their big brother. The four animals became friends and decided to share the tree together in peaceful harmony enjoying the beauty of the tree's fragrance, the nourishment of the tree's fruits, and the bounty of the tree's shade.

Other animals in the forest often saw them together with the partridge on top of the rabbit who was held up by the monkey who rode on top of the elephant. Henceforth, they were called the four harmonious friends. The four animals were looked upon as an example and peace regained in the forest.

There are about five different version of the story but they all had the same moral -- respect to elders, love and affection to live harmoniously.



Now we need some designer to make a logo out of this.
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Or something like this Smiley



This is called The four harmonious friends. The story fits our values,

Once in a forest in Varanasi, four animals, an elephant, a rabbit, a monkey and a bird (partridge) disputed about the ownership of a tree where all of them happened to come to feed on. The elephant claimed it was his because he saw it first. The monkey said that it was his because he had been feeding on the fruits of the tree. The rabbit claimed it was his because he had been feeding on the dew of the leaves on the tree when it was a small sapling. The partridge who had been watching the argument said that the tree belonged to it because the tree wouldn't have grown if it had not spit out the seed from the fruit it had eaten.

The elephant, monkey and rabbit all then bowed to the partridge and regarded it as their big brother. The four animals became friends and decided to share the tree together in peaceful harmony enjoying the beauty of the tree's fragrance, the nourishment of the tree's fruits, and the bounty of the tree's shade.

Other animals in the forest often saw them together with the partridge on top of the rabbit who was held up by the monkey who rode on top of the elephant. Henceforth, they were called the four harmonious friends. The four animals were looked upon as an example and peace regained in the forest.

There are about five different version of the story but they all had the same moral -- respect to elders, love and affection to live harmoniously.

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I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.

The official list follows registration order so that it can be linked to reference sources when necessary. For why 2 lists instead of 1, it is easier to check duplicate hashes/ tx id that way/. A lot of times was spent on combating fraudsters.    


What if a fraudster had written some meaningless comment to thread 1.
Later, when he finds that someone in thread 2 has not yet written his hash,
then he steals that hash and adds it to his post in thread 1.

How you would find that fraudster's and someone's hash are same?


Both threads were locked long ago. No editing possible. Read here as well https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5186684 the fee changed every 10 pages, so hash/ tx. id can be stolen in that range only otherwise they would not be valid. Time stamp check is used as well.
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I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.

The official list follows registration order so that it can be linked to reference sources when necessary. For why 2 lists instead of 1, it is easier to check duplicate hashes/ tx id that way/. A lot of times was spent on combating fraudsters.    


What if a fraudster had written some meaningless comment to thread 1.
Later, when he finds that someone in thread 2 has not yet written his hash,
then he steals that hash and adds it to his post in thread 1.

How you would find that fraudster's and someone's hash are same?
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Guys how about doing something along these themes for our logo:





The first one is the official international sign for humanity its called Happy Human Grin . wiki says BHA licenses this trademark to humanist organizations , maybe it suits our values too.
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Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com


Reading previous posts this may not be popular...

Don't mind black or blue - what I would say is the contrast of the black really helps other features stand out and gives the page a stronger more striking feel to it...

In comparison the blue feels more average colour, a bit like Hewlett Packard corporate blue and microsoft use a blue like that quite a lot.

Nothing wrong with that... they want to be welcoming too. A DARKER Blue perhaps would give welcome and contrast?

black wins hands down...

Yeah - I'd agree with that.
Personalyl I'd remove the globe on the upper left corner. Not only does it introduce a second logo but it also looks like it was low res.
Again, Props on the website as a whole though Smiley
You all have inspired me with some great ideas for the site!
Thank you all, including erki12, xtester and many others. I will respond to all of your concerns, and take them into consideration, but for now I am going to get onto the next iteration of the site, and I think you will be pleased.

To sum up the most important part of the google docs:

I need the community to give me copyright free pictures that I can use for this site, most images are just placeholders (but atleast they are copyright free). The logos I used are not official logos, they are just logos that have been submitted by the community. I will give NEM from my personal share to people that contribute images/photos/etc that I use in the final site.
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I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.

The official list follows registration order so that it can be linked to reference sources when necessary. For why 2 lists instead of 1, it is easier to check duplicate hashes/ tx id that way/. A lot of times was spent on combating fraudsters.    
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The Y is in column C. It would be quite suspicous if noone had a Y don't you think ? Smiley
ok.. there lots of Y in column C. but for which nicknames is it set?? for the left ones or for the right ones?.. Smiley or for both  Huh there is only 1 column for Y... and there are 2 columns for stakeholder nicknames... and there is no Y in line 2, my line

They are set for the nicknames to the right. The nicknames on the left are only an ordered list of all stakeholders.

Reading the names of the colums helps figuring this stuff out ;-)

I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.

I finally understood what was the problem... I watched the list here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=1
Check my number. It's 1498 in the very beginning (line 2). There is no "Y".

It turned out to be the old list (found in the 1st and 2nd registration threads).
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I saw the stakeholder classifications.
There are three groups.

I didn't read through the thread. I just gave my opinion.

If the classifications will be used to kick out the potential whale, it's a damned good idea!!


Ask the stakeholder should have a lower limit of activity.

For newbies who invested one to several stakes, they can easily increase their one or serveral acc.

However, this will rise greatly the cost of a whale who may have >20, even >100 stakes.

Make NEM as NEM, fair and no whale.
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I think we should make a simple Excel list with all the stakeholders filtered out the original list and put it in an alphabetic order.

A little effort to make to spare much time, complaints and newbie questions now.
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The Y is in column C. It would be quite suspicous if noone had a Y don't you think ? Smiley
ok.. there lots of Y in column C. but for which nicknames is it set?? for the left ones or for the right ones?.. Smiley or for both  Huh there is only 1 column for Y... and there are 2 columns for stakeholder nicknames... and there is no Y in line 2, my line

They are set for the nicknames to the right. The nicknames on the left are only an ordered list of all stakeholders.

Reading the names of the colums helps figuring this stuff out ;-)
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The Y is in column C. It would be quite suspicous if noone had a Y don't you think ? Smiley
ok.. there lots of Y in column C. but for which nicknames is it set?? for the left ones or for the right ones?.. Smiley or for both  Huh there is only 1 column for Y... and there are 2 columns for stakeholder nicknames... and there is no Y in line 2, my line

I'm sorry I have to post all this, but I really want to join the NEM movement Cheesy it's too unfair that i've sent some nxt in the very beginning of the 2nd registration thread and still not become a stakeholder Sad...
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Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com


Reading previous posts this may not be popular...

Don't mind black or blue - what I would say is the contrast of the black really helps other features stand out and gives the page a stronger more striking feel to it...

In comparison the blue feels more average colour, a bit like Hewlett Packard corporate blue and microsoft use a blue like that quite a lot.

Nothing wrong with that... they want to be welcoming too. A DARKER Blue perhaps would give welcome and contrast?

black wins hands down...

Yeah - I'd agree with that.
Personalyl I'd remove the globe on the upper left corner. Not only does it introduce a second logo but it also looks like it was low res.
Again, Props on the website as a whole though Smiley
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I think you should put the price up a 2 NEM donation  Grin
now that's ridiculous Cheesy.. but well, what the hell? I'm ready even for that Grin

YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2

Yes I know it, but I didn't get the Y condition (Y means everything is "okie"). And without this condition I'm not a stakeholder, even if my name appears in the list...

You have a Y.

but there is no "Y" there... Is this condition set for both left and right nicknames in columns B and F?

The Y is in column C. It would be quite suspicous if noone had a Y don't you think ? Smiley
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I think you should put the price up a 2 NEM donation  Grin
now that's ridiculous Cheesy.. but well, what the hell? I'm ready even for that Grin

YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2

Yes I know it, but I didn't get the Y condition (Y means everything is "okie"). And without this condition I'm not a stakeholder, even if my name appears in the list...

You have a Y.

but there is no "Y" there... Is this condition set for both left and right nicknames in columns B and F?
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YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2

Yes I know it, but I didn't get the Y condition (Y means everything is "okie"). And without this condition I'm not a stakeholder, even if my name appears in the list...

You have a Y.

 Grin glad I am not you right now.

I really didn't want to offend anyone of give the wrong impression. I'm glad to part of NEM and I'm very much willing to help out with pretty much anything. It's just sometimes even I need to blow of some steam ;-)
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YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2

Yes I know it, but I didn't get the Y condition (Y means everything is "okie"). And without this condition I'm not a stakeholder, even if my name appears in the list...

You have a Y.

 Grin glad I am not you right now.
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Hi there! Just want to check my status as a stakeholder of NEM. I noticed only today that I'm not qualified and was quite shocked Shocked Can you check it out plz? I'm №1498 on the 2nd page and it seems like I didn't satisfy the conditions: had to send 350NXT beeing on the 3rd page of the 2nd registration thread instead of 300NXT... yeah, my mistake, but I'll tell you why I did so:

1) First I left a message on the page 91 of the 1st registration thread and I was one of the last guys there, some of which were also sending 300NXT. Here it is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4843010

2) 300NXT were sent because in the 1st thread in the very beginning (page 1) you can find this:
Quote
How to join after page 80. Two ways

1. Pay a fee to join in
   
    Send 300 NXT to the address      14343293611098709683
    Send 0.03 BTC to the address    1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ
  So I did exactly the same thing. Sent 300, not 350..

3) Later on I got a reply from the utopianfuture himself on the same page:
Quote from: utopianfuture
Hi we moved to a new thread. Check the above post. Make a post in a new thread with your transaction I'd. Thanks.
My mistake I just copied my message to the 2nd registation thread and left the transaction as it is. You can find it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4846101

So is there any chance now to get an approved condition? I can send some more NXT if needed  Huh

This is getting out of hand....

YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2
I think you should put the price up a 2 NEM donation  Grin
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YOU ARE THERE: No. 1498 of T2

Yes I know it, but I didn't get the Y condition (Y means everything is "okie"). And without this condition I'm not a stakeholder, even if my name appears in the list...

You have a Y.
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As annoying the checking can be, it could be quite helpful if the stakeholder list was on one tab only. People not familiar with Excel probably don't notice the second tab.
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